Originally Posted by marsacko
lol..only read the beginning..dude...after the "shut the fuck up with the sorry" i would have quit the interview...or punched im in the face without saying sorry afterwards...is this somekind of NLP guru?
He started out as a Speed SuckDogShit student around the late 1990's who would post detailed lay reports. He had a book and CD product called "Bishop's Journal" which was easier to understand and use than Ross' shit.
Then in 2001 or so he went to jail for breaking into his ex-girlfriend's house.
In 2004 he came back on the scene with an inner game product called "Unleashing the phoenix" and a seduction book called "Fire of Seduction."
To my knowledge, he is one of the few PUAs to have no complaints against him regarding refunds or customer service.
I don't know what he's doing these days. He seemed like a pretty cool guy and had some useful and realistic information, IMHO.
I quote Bishop's response on Thundercat's Lair blog in 2005:
"I had every single name and address of those who ordered from me...so I asked Ross to have these alleged people contact me and when I verified they indeed ordered from me, they'd get their money back. That was in 2001 and I have yet to hear from any such customer thatdidn't get their book.
Think, people! Ross is a paralegal...and he loves to file suits...yet in the nearly four years since my alleged fraud, there has been not ONE SINGLE SUIT brought against me for this???
Several of his students are allegedly ripped off, yet he doesn't help them with how to file suit???...Not a single one???...Not a single student comes to my home to confront me??? Why not? Ross knew where I lived, why didn't he send the whole lot of them to my doorstep??? It's because he's lying and he knows it!
I still have all the information of those who purchased the book from me...if anyone reading this was among those who never received their book...contact me."
It does seem suspious that no charges or lawsuits were ever filed. And does it really sound like Ross to simply sever ties with Bishop, instead of helping these guys who were ripped off get justice?
I think this whole shitstorm had to do with the fact that just before all of that, Bishop and Yates Canipe (Ross' business partner then) got into it and Bishop pulled his book from their catalog, and started his own online business.
There's no denying Bishop broke into his ex girlfriend's house, which does seem mental, but this claim by Ross smells funny.
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And unlike most of these PUAs who have a bunch of pics with hot women they might not even know, Bishop has a bunch of pics with this playboy model whos name I found out is Sara Stokes, and you can tell they were at different places together.
Compare the woman in those pics with these, and tell me this isn't the same woman!
I know this doesn't prove he was fucking her. Still, he didn't have a TV show, he wasn't mentioned in The Game, he wasn't a millionaire, she's obviously not just some escort or hooker he hired, so how would he be able to get a Playboy model to hang out with him so much if he wasn't good at pick-up?
I know I seem like I'm verbally sucking his dick. I just think of all the fucking PUAs out there, he seems to be the only one who has babes like Sara with him at multiple events (not just lame ass posed pics with some random chicks) and I have found nothing online about anyone being ripped off or feeling scammed by him.
Ok, enough of this shit. Let's go kill something and celebrate with a group howling.
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