I will post on this but I have to say that once they go sexual on text its good to get them to meet up right away..momentum dies and if you keep trying to meetup you come off sexual needy...
she did show herself and I fucked up and she wouldnt comply meeting up here
something that logistics wise wouldnt have worked...In my opinion
my roomie said its the same thing but I think LMR and all that stuff its about logistics...
Saffron's SNLs is just marvelous how he pulls ..but the solid pulls into his place...
pulling to her place its kinda running risk of going home alone...
she had her chance and was cool but I pover invested and ran needy game...and turned her off when she wanted me to qualify myself as a shittest disqualifier which made me work harder and unnecessary for her punani and she knew it....
she called me a jerk afterwards....
but It was blown and according to vinve kelv eins awesome phone game product...she had bacome unresopnsive therfore lost value....
I got lucky and my secret lies in transition to text then phone game same day or next day...phone game let her vent and you run teases and qualification and some sexual frames and after that you test for compliance with verbal takeaways and ask her maybe i shouldnt etc etc ...
when you say that you ping.....
I dont go sexual
i expect for her to go sexual first and I go into im not that easy...
by phone anything is possible and in person its different...
I might have to ask eltopo
cause sticking point of girls going sexual is A MAJOR STICKING POINT
Adam said : get on the phone and use plausible deniability and get her to meet up...
Monday, June 29, 2009
leaving NY....regrets and the departure of a natural BEST friend
I got dissed by 2 girls both were complying and attracted but I didnt follow the model....M3 is SOLID game LIKE IT OR NOT.
I realised to get into DEEP COMFORT you have to have her invested into the convoo 70% more than you...
why? cause its the basis of qualification
Qualification and compliance is what makes it work...
also calibrate where she is...
timing of the call and logistics....
Im homeless and Im on my way to miami
my family is the worst people cause they give money to other s and they dont care about me...
I saw my friend diss girls and he pings in text and doesnt invest more.... he is also super discrete and calibrated...I think he doesnt get laid because he doesnt want to and he knows he is successful person...
this month is what i imagined it would be like living at project hollywood...
only thing is that I learned from a natural....
play smart and take iniciative....
cuss out and be firm with the bitches...
he doesnt respond to a negative text...he disqualifies discretely
I made several BIG mistakes
overreacting and pushy
didnt follow the model
wrong timing and seem needy than persistant
being apologetic
dancing monkey and rewarding her IOD's
and not stoping myself from coming on too try hard....or convincing car salesman or qualify myself too much...
I did this on a basis of my innergame that I was leaving ny...taking risks and that was a test that I need to work on... so far I have 4 new lays... thanks to him and his building my confidence...I ran phone game on 3 of them and he did on one....on the one he did he was smooth not sexual not boring and very smooth and he said he had something important to do and end it...
he was what I was missing from my life...
my best friend and he knew that I had opening skills...he is just phenomenal...
at closing and maimtaing attraction...he was soo positive and intelligent...sttegyst and game wasnt 1 in his life..thats what made him non needy...
he rather hang woth freiends than be with a bitch...thats what it takes the balls to do that is what makes you better....
I cried a little...its not friends who just ask for your advice or take from you...its thouse that are there for you in the hardest times.
I deleted numbers on my phone because I have abundance mentality...
I also have to go over when you blow in set how to next it...
you blow it hardcore you are done....
calibrating the blowout vs ejecting
I think I can can better if I work on myself more....I think that I can go over my notes this month that I can find the consistent and confidence to pull it back on...
I think its inportant to realize that its a numbers game...
and that we all have our days
NEVER take anything personal...learn from it.
Attornye woman seems like a match but she wants things on her terms and I learned she has to be more investe in you to make things happen
when you are in there and you pull back ...they always pull forward...
be always willing to lose her...you show that vibe and she will make it happen
if she doesnt then you run the risk of being easy and they will lose attraction...
women want to work for you...the happier they are to see you the easier they are to game....
I also learned that YOU NEVER TELL THE GIRLS YOU ARE SEEING OTHER PEOPLE
YOU NEVER STEEP LOW
let it go and walk away....
I still have a lot to learn from and the clock is ticking believe it or not....
Im still chilling and next moment i will be in the street...homeless
theres a light though...a light that I lived what most guys will never have...
a month of success and failure
but the rewards
were priceless..... :)
I realised to get into DEEP COMFORT you have to have her invested into the convoo 70% more than you...
why? cause its the basis of qualification
Qualification and compliance is what makes it work...
also calibrate where she is...
timing of the call and logistics....
Im homeless and Im on my way to miami
my family is the worst people cause they give money to other s and they dont care about me...
I saw my friend diss girls and he pings in text and doesnt invest more.... he is also super discrete and calibrated...I think he doesnt get laid because he doesnt want to and he knows he is successful person...
this month is what i imagined it would be like living at project hollywood...
only thing is that I learned from a natural....
play smart and take iniciative....
cuss out and be firm with the bitches...
he doesnt respond to a negative text...he disqualifies discretely
I made several BIG mistakes
overreacting and pushy
didnt follow the model
wrong timing and seem needy than persistant
being apologetic
dancing monkey and rewarding her IOD's
and not stoping myself from coming on too try hard....or convincing car salesman or qualify myself too much...
I did this on a basis of my innergame that I was leaving ny...taking risks and that was a test that I need to work on... so far I have 4 new lays... thanks to him and his building my confidence...I ran phone game on 3 of them and he did on one....on the one he did he was smooth not sexual not boring and very smooth and he said he had something important to do and end it...
he was what I was missing from my life...
my best friend and he knew that I had opening skills...he is just phenomenal...
at closing and maimtaing attraction...he was soo positive and intelligent...sttegyst and game wasnt 1 in his life..thats what made him non needy...
he rather hang woth freiends than be with a bitch...thats what it takes the balls to do that is what makes you better....
I cried a little...its not friends who just ask for your advice or take from you...its thouse that are there for you in the hardest times.
I deleted numbers on my phone because I have abundance mentality...
I also have to go over when you blow in set how to next it...
you blow it hardcore you are done....
calibrating the blowout vs ejecting
I think I can can better if I work on myself more....I think that I can go over my notes this month that I can find the consistent and confidence to pull it back on...
I think its inportant to realize that its a numbers game...
and that we all have our days
NEVER take anything personal...learn from it.
Attornye woman seems like a match but she wants things on her terms and I learned she has to be more investe in you to make things happen
when you are in there and you pull back ...they always pull forward...
be always willing to lose her...you show that vibe and she will make it happen
if she doesnt then you run the risk of being easy and they will lose attraction...
women want to work for you...the happier they are to see you the easier they are to game....
I also learned that YOU NEVER TELL THE GIRLS YOU ARE SEEING OTHER PEOPLE
YOU NEVER STEEP LOW
let it go and walk away....
I still have a lot to learn from and the clock is ticking believe it or not....
Im still chilling and next moment i will be in the street...homeless
theres a light though...a light that I lived what most guys will never have...
a month of success and failure
but the rewards
were priceless..... :)
Thursday, June 25, 2009
LR LIgreen eyes
I had some of the best sex in a long time and I got it with dominance and social pressure...last night I lost the lay cause her frame was stronger than mine.... like sinn says when you have a stronger frame you win...thats the zen.
l;ast night I been playing with girls emotions and I saw her she didnt want to sleep with me and I got LMR...then we went out and i brought her in and I used social pressure and leading with hey hurry up and stop being a baby..I acted tired and that nothing was going to happend...
THATS THE SECRET TO CLOSING
sexual arrousal not verbally but physically then backing off and reiniciating and take it away...make sure you build attraction and momentum...then you go for the non sexual excuse to get her up there...
no that I think of it all the lays were like that but ...I was speeding up like sinn but like he says play solid game get better results....
I have to look over compliance and delaing with IOI and IOD's
I like that I learned is not pressurethe girl but lead in a distracting way so it isnt sexual...disqualify HARDCORE and even show you are tired and sleepy...
I closed her and we has awesome sex and she bought me a snoopy....
I had a girl game me before I met up with this one but I clouldnt number close...
plus I had attorney woman...text me and stuff but I played with her emotions,,,
she is very manipulative and I showed vunerable and she chases..
she told me couldnt see me cause she was dating 5 other guys...
she gave me BS text about how she could try to meet up and she has plans but Im the PRIZE and I cut her off....
THE SECRET TO BEING THE PRIZE IS ACTING AND BEIGN CONGRUENT
ACt like a high class woman or high class donald trump with no time...
I had girls text me what Im up to and I'd escalate for a meet up after 3rd text.
So far with deep comfort by phone cuts the process..but Down side is time of when you call and testing her attraction and compliance and false time constraint and ending the call.
not all woman want to connect and there is a wall...all woman act same to a guy and thats what I get consistent in closing ...
I cutting back with deep comfort and I like when they vent more then I turn it and run into what I want adn show dominance which creates attraction....
YOU CANT FLINCH
Be sure of what you are doing and build compliance
DBOY gets credit for this...
l;ast night I been playing with girls emotions and I saw her she didnt want to sleep with me and I got LMR...then we went out and i brought her in and I used social pressure and leading with hey hurry up and stop being a baby..I acted tired and that nothing was going to happend...
THATS THE SECRET TO CLOSING
sexual arrousal not verbally but physically then backing off and reiniciating and take it away...make sure you build attraction and momentum...then you go for the non sexual excuse to get her up there...
no that I think of it all the lays were like that but ...I was speeding up like sinn but like he says play solid game get better results....
I have to look over compliance and delaing with IOI and IOD's
I like that I learned is not pressurethe girl but lead in a distracting way so it isnt sexual...disqualify HARDCORE and even show you are tired and sleepy...
I closed her and we has awesome sex and she bought me a snoopy....
I had a girl game me before I met up with this one but I clouldnt number close...
plus I had attorney woman...text me and stuff but I played with her emotions,,,
she is very manipulative and I showed vunerable and she chases..
she told me couldnt see me cause she was dating 5 other guys...
she gave me BS text about how she could try to meet up and she has plans but Im the PRIZE and I cut her off....
THE SECRET TO BEING THE PRIZE IS ACTING AND BEIGN CONGRUENT
ACt like a high class woman or high class donald trump with no time...
I had girls text me what Im up to and I'd escalate for a meet up after 3rd text.
So far with deep comfort by phone cuts the process..but Down side is time of when you call and testing her attraction and compliance and false time constraint and ending the call.
not all woman want to connect and there is a wall...all woman act same to a guy and thats what I get consistent in closing ...
I cutting back with deep comfort and I like when they vent more then I turn it and run into what I want adn show dominance which creates attraction....
YOU CANT FLINCH
Be sure of what you are doing and build compliance
DBOY gets credit for this...
Wednesday, June 24, 2009
FR music teach nj
I went out with hbmusic teach 6 weeks agao before the awakening of my new self...I ran comfort game i did coldreads and use light kino..at the end made her feel super comfrotable and made her invest emotionally...but I felt ididnt have enough atttraction or spike her BT.. at the end we walked and she wasnt compliant to the ice cream pull...she was very reluctant cause I treid that beofre without the ice cream at the earlier stage and she knew what was up...she went direct and in our conversation we spoke about sex and she said she didnt want to get involved with me cause I was leaving nyc...and she wasnt going to hook up with someon thats leaving..she was very genuine and kept kissing me.. I didnt react or overgame but escalate and stopped.. I didnt spike her BT cause i felt she was genuine about it...
I forgot how the interaction was supposed to be flirty and light as I treid deep comfort and qualified her by her specific traits and her sexyness...
I truly believe I deserve much more attractive girl and the set was blown before she came...
at the end I was flirty and non needy and kissed her lightly and acted so confident and uneedy like never before...
I felt very proud of myself, I got mad and upset and I remmeber what s&M chick taught me, never react what a woman says and be confident man, even in the face of rejection.
I doubt I will ever see her again...
It was like borderline freindship but with kissign..in reality it isnt niceguy game ...its comfort connection...but i lacked the sexual vibe cause I run SOLID game..if I owuld have gotten her up there..it would have been game over..
I will post on this cause I feel that reverse psycology works and my inner game suffered a bit cause afterwardsI ran a random bootycall game which went nowhere.. :(
but its all good...so far Im 3 out of 4 which is not bad....
I did hit a soft spot but I ran high attraction game and intrigue and then logistics wasnt there plus she didnt know whon I was and I was getting into sexual needy mode and I had to back off...
that being said...
comfor tconnection isnt for everychick.. I bet that if I stayeed it would have work but i was in damge control with her by text and she flaked on my 3 times... I came off incongruent and I was on damage control but now Its like Im a normal guy that created chemitry...at the wrong moment in her life.
I have to review previous LR posts and get my mojo back...
they helped and the non neeedyness frame and not trying too hard...
I have a date tonight w another chick and I have the same issues that they want no sex cause they are emotional so It like they get emotional and I should get them to spike BT and non sexual and be firm on my desciveness for the apt ice cream close...
If you let them dictate your interaction then you will never close!
woman expect the guy to lead, like a doctor treating a kid./..take control and lead with a velvet glove...
I like rsd verbal attraction
and swingcatts prizing the beliefs are awesome
UPDATE : hs etext me she wished me the BEST and blah blah...
I respionded: sure.sounds good
HE WHO CARES LESS CONTROLS THE RELATIONSHIP
I didnt spike emotions and late in calling fo rthe pull and timing the timebridge and logistics wasnt on..I flinched.
entropys note :
When you tell a girl you're leaving, it makes her want to sleep with you less.
For a lot of girls, they'll only sleep with a guy if they know the OPTION of a relationship is open to them, even if they don't want it. Think of it as part of their slut defense. So whereas guys think, "Oh, she's leaving in a week, FREE SEX!" Girls think, "Oh, well, we'd never work out so what's the point?"
I forgot how the interaction was supposed to be flirty and light as I treid deep comfort and qualified her by her specific traits and her sexyness...
I truly believe I deserve much more attractive girl and the set was blown before she came...
at the end I was flirty and non needy and kissed her lightly and acted so confident and uneedy like never before...
I felt very proud of myself, I got mad and upset and I remmeber what s&M chick taught me, never react what a woman says and be confident man, even in the face of rejection.
I doubt I will ever see her again...
It was like borderline freindship but with kissign..in reality it isnt niceguy game ...its comfort connection...but i lacked the sexual vibe cause I run SOLID game..if I owuld have gotten her up there..it would have been game over..
I will post on this cause I feel that reverse psycology works and my inner game suffered a bit cause afterwardsI ran a random bootycall game which went nowhere.. :(
but its all good...so far Im 3 out of 4 which is not bad....
I did hit a soft spot but I ran high attraction game and intrigue and then logistics wasnt there plus she didnt know whon I was and I was getting into sexual needy mode and I had to back off...
that being said...
comfor tconnection isnt for everychick.. I bet that if I stayeed it would have work but i was in damge control with her by text and she flaked on my 3 times... I came off incongruent and I was on damage control but now Its like Im a normal guy that created chemitry...at the wrong moment in her life.
I have to review previous LR posts and get my mojo back...
they helped and the non neeedyness frame and not trying too hard...
I have a date tonight w another chick and I have the same issues that they want no sex cause they are emotional so It like they get emotional and I should get them to spike BT and non sexual and be firm on my desciveness for the apt ice cream close...
If you let them dictate your interaction then you will never close!
woman expect the guy to lead, like a doctor treating a kid./..take control and lead with a velvet glove...
I like rsd verbal attraction
and swingcatts prizing the beliefs are awesome
UPDATE : hs etext me she wished me the BEST and blah blah...
I respionded: sure.sounds good
HE WHO CARES LESS CONTROLS THE RELATIONSHIP
I didnt spike emotions and late in calling fo rthe pull and timing the timebridge and logistics wasnt on..I flinched.
entropys note :
When you tell a girl you're leaving, it makes her want to sleep with you less.
For a lot of girls, they'll only sleep with a guy if they know the OPTION of a relationship is open to them, even if they don't want it. Think of it as part of their slut defense. So whereas guys think, "Oh, she's leaving in a week, FREE SEX!" Girls think, "Oh, well, we'd never work out so what's the point?"
Tuesday, June 23, 2009
importance of building momentum
the girls are soo smart that they are living lie detectors...
so practice hiding that you only want sex or want to connect with her..let her vent and talk ! dont cut her off!
sinn said once to me I needed to build momentum to pull and in ewvery intereaction..especially attraction...
attraction is interested but in high state
bradoks text game explains it and that principle is the mentality to keep interaction intersting and fun..
dont flinch or say anything needy or incongruent..be chill and take things lightly as per adams top 10 dating tips..Id say that when i get nervous adam always has best advice...
Being chill and cool and underneath it all just verbally denying it is awesome....
thats the reality that you have to have to close girls...I guess thats why CJ does SNL's the frames are soo powerful that it does fade and girls forget like we do...
so momnetum is KEY and refreming the SNL frames when you find an oppportunity to use it within what she says is better,you related to her and you solidifying with a cold read the qualifier....
LEADING
I got to say that Attraction is my sticking point and its beacuse there so many ways to do it..but when you are in the moment and chill and run it when she is talking its easier..thats why you dont need to memeoize routimnes...be aware of her emotional state
so practice hiding that you only want sex or want to connect with her..let her vent and talk ! dont cut her off!
sinn said once to me I needed to build momentum to pull and in ewvery intereaction..especially attraction...
attraction is interested but in high state
bradoks text game explains it and that principle is the mentality to keep interaction intersting and fun..
dont flinch or say anything needy or incongruent..be chill and take things lightly as per adams top 10 dating tips..Id say that when i get nervous adam always has best advice...
Being chill and cool and underneath it all just verbally denying it is awesome....
thats the reality that you have to have to close girls...I guess thats why CJ does SNL's the frames are soo powerful that it does fade and girls forget like we do...
so momnetum is KEY and refreming the SNL frames when you find an oppportunity to use it within what she says is better,you related to her and you solidifying with a cold read the qualifier....
LEADING
I got to say that Attraction is my sticking point and its beacuse there so many ways to do it..but when you are in the moment and chill and run it when she is talking its easier..thats why you dont need to memeoize routimnes...be aware of her emotional state
I found my mojo...tao of sandro
with deep comfort if you over do it it gets draining and comes off needy..
So Ive been trying to go back like rocky and found what got me here..I guess that all PU stuff is a cycle...
no wonder Lovesystems made it cyclical recently...
I have to give props to ElTopo...
He has the BEST game strategy Ive ever seen if you are a beginner.
other guys are good but if you want to get good fast and you put yourself there he can take you there..its draining and it will take time.
I decided to write the TAO of Sandros
1- whenever you think you have to do something to get her...stop and wait for her reaction.
2- Dont over invest too soon, balance your teases in as a normal person...No monkey boy buisness
3-At first always show your coolness and always be chill like if she wants you
4-justify and qualify everything...you show that you are you never say it..she will come TRUST ME!
5-Girls love to chaase but they take a bit longer to react to a guy ..she waiting for him to react first when he doesnt then she reacts and the chasing cycle starts
6- once she is chasing you play Brad Pitt game which is you are chill and you are the shit...AKA dont fuck it up
5- Avoid going into deep conversations before she has vented and qualified herself...ALWAYS LET HER GAME YOU! you reward but a little bit
6-Calibrate ALL your interaction for you to have the upper hand.
7-You always drive the car without her noticing you want something..you keep going even is she says NO. (WARNING!)
8-DONT Push her..let her open up first the work with what she gives you then lead..
9- routines should be part of interaction not dictate.
10- NEVER SEEK RAPPORT! you act friendly and chill like you dont want anything and then you work from there...
11-GAME IS EASY...NEVER OVER THINK IT, LET HER WORK AND YOU LEAD...
So Ive been trying to go back like rocky and found what got me here..I guess that all PU stuff is a cycle...
no wonder Lovesystems made it cyclical recently...
I have to give props to ElTopo...
He has the BEST game strategy Ive ever seen if you are a beginner.
other guys are good but if you want to get good fast and you put yourself there he can take you there..its draining and it will take time.
I decided to write the TAO of Sandros
1- whenever you think you have to do something to get her...stop and wait for her reaction.
2- Dont over invest too soon, balance your teases in as a normal person...No monkey boy buisness
3-At first always show your coolness and always be chill like if she wants you
4-justify and qualify everything...you show that you are you never say it..she will come TRUST ME!
5-Girls love to chaase but they take a bit longer to react to a guy ..she waiting for him to react first when he doesnt then she reacts and the chasing cycle starts
6- once she is chasing you play Brad Pitt game which is you are chill and you are the shit...AKA dont fuck it up
5- Avoid going into deep conversations before she has vented and qualified herself...ALWAYS LET HER GAME YOU! you reward but a little bit
6-Calibrate ALL your interaction for you to have the upper hand.
7-You always drive the car without her noticing you want something..you keep going even is she says NO. (WARNING!)
8-DONT Push her..let her open up first the work with what she gives you then lead..
9- routines should be part of interaction not dictate.
10- NEVER SEEK RAPPORT! you act friendly and chill like you dont want anything and then you work from there...
11-GAME IS EASY...NEVER OVER THINK IT, LET HER WORK AND YOU LEAD...
Friday, June 19, 2009
Aha moment ! Sinn's stuff opened my eyes
Ive been getting good with comfort game...i get girls into me text me call me even before sex after i run my comfort game...beofre my comfort game ive experimented going sexual and even having my roomie have a girl send me naked pics of her but i havent closed her...so that being said...
I ve been lazy..working and stress and the fear of my friend leaving...
This so far has been the most memorable month in my Life
like my friend said..."Enjoy it man how many guys bang chicks like you do now?...not that i know of are racking them in..and the type of girls that are leeting you do all type of shit to them...not alot of guys have that...
the rotation is taking a life of its own and it sould be fun..you drop a girl or she is giving you a hard time ..you are your own man...you make the desciscions...she has to be worthy of the rotation.cause you have other girls..so she isnt that special.."
DO NOT REWARD BAD BEHAVIOR
s&m chick was playing with my head..her telling me she was failling in love and wanted a relationship with me and we both argued....bad idea bad idea bad idea..
as always history repreats itself with NEVER ARGUE WITH A WOMAN and CHANGE HER STATE NOT HER MIND
so after reaching this i have my attraction game a little rusty....
and was reading stuff...
but the problem came to being burnt out...
Sinn has been someone that really blew me away when i met him
People that help me are Sinn,CJ,topo,entropy,doc holliday,saffron,adam,jsmoooth,mmpua A, doc strangelove,nothern nights and mehow and fuji....
this is the pinancle of game reaching routines and natural game...my shift came from connecting routines with natural game to back it up....
Sinn has this natural attraction dvd
so since my attraction game was lazy...
I went to watching this...what he says and the swagger is true...
I recommend you from mid level to better this is what will take you to another level..
sandros
I ve been lazy..working and stress and the fear of my friend leaving...
This so far has been the most memorable month in my Life
like my friend said..."Enjoy it man how many guys bang chicks like you do now?...not that i know of are racking them in..and the type of girls that are leeting you do all type of shit to them...not alot of guys have that...
the rotation is taking a life of its own and it sould be fun..you drop a girl or she is giving you a hard time ..you are your own man...you make the desciscions...she has to be worthy of the rotation.cause you have other girls..so she isnt that special.."
DO NOT REWARD BAD BEHAVIOR
s&m chick was playing with my head..her telling me she was failling in love and wanted a relationship with me and we both argued....bad idea bad idea bad idea..
as always history repreats itself with NEVER ARGUE WITH A WOMAN and CHANGE HER STATE NOT HER MIND
so after reaching this i have my attraction game a little rusty....
and was reading stuff...
but the problem came to being burnt out...
Sinn has been someone that really blew me away when i met him
People that help me are Sinn,CJ,topo,entropy,doc holliday,saffron,adam,jsmoooth,mmpua A, doc strangelove,nothern nights and mehow and fuji....
this is the pinancle of game reaching routines and natural game...my shift came from connecting routines with natural game to back it up....
Sinn has this natural attraction dvd
so since my attraction game was lazy...
I went to watching this...what he says and the swagger is true...
I recommend you from mid level to better this is what will take you to another level..
sandros
Thursday, June 18, 2009
s&m out of rotation and relationship management
hey i had an argument w S&M girl..it was my fault
set was blown...
didnt want sex
set was blown...
didnt want sex
Wednesday, June 17, 2009
lay 3 and im going to start coaching
Im going to L 3 interaction
but I have to say that Im broke and I got good after alot of hard work and investment...
there are people who spend alot of money and time reading and watching dvds..
its good for business but not good for getting good.
depends on your learning curve is and whats the simple way of understanding game.
so I want to offer wing services for dirt cheap cause Im going homeless and I need for food...
Im getting laid but Im independednt..i dont want to depend on a woman for a place to stay..its too much and my game will crumble if i do that.
game is momentum
longer you do it and work at it..you will get it
it depends where you want and how you want.
once you reproduce the same results like in sceince..then its reproducible
women react predictable and thouse that dont react...you either disqualify or work to get her...
so that being said..pleas consider the possibility of either donating to the blog or contacting me for coaching...
i will talk on the phone for half an hour before meet up
and i will go over what you want and set up to meet up...
I will demo and watch you and even help you in the process..
this isnt about learning new routines its about getting better..i prefer to work with mid level students...newbies it depends how far you are in game.
Ive read it all seen it all and learnd from the best guys
give me this opportunity to help you.. i will.
feel free to contact me or post a comment.
sandros
dreamerboyinnyc@gmail.com
but I have to say that Im broke and I got good after alot of hard work and investment...
there are people who spend alot of money and time reading and watching dvds..
its good for business but not good for getting good.
depends on your learning curve is and whats the simple way of understanding game.
so I want to offer wing services for dirt cheap cause Im going homeless and I need for food...
Im getting laid but Im independednt..i dont want to depend on a woman for a place to stay..its too much and my game will crumble if i do that.
game is momentum
longer you do it and work at it..you will get it
it depends where you want and how you want.
once you reproduce the same results like in sceince..then its reproducible
women react predictable and thouse that dont react...you either disqualify or work to get her...
so that being said..pleas consider the possibility of either donating to the blog or contacting me for coaching...
i will talk on the phone for half an hour before meet up
and i will go over what you want and set up to meet up...
I will demo and watch you and even help you in the process..
this isnt about learning new routines its about getting better..i prefer to work with mid level students...newbies it depends how far you are in game.
Ive read it all seen it all and learnd from the best guys
give me this opportunity to help you.. i will.
feel free to contact me or post a comment.
sandros
dreamerboyinnyc@gmail.com
Sunday, June 14, 2009
mood swings and my state affects my game
ok in the beginning i would get frustrated and lose my cool alot.
then I built confidence...
so far..
Ive been descent but I have hardcore flirty girls that I dont know what to do...
When I noticed when I talk Im in state I improv and force myself to find a joke up front...
what Im going to try to do is to try to reproduce.
My state droped low today cause...I felt my bodyy was tired and drained
that affected my interaction.
so Im reviewing RSD mastermind verbal attraction
I got soo good and get soo bad but it my mojo or my state.
last night ran SOLID PHONE GAME
and today saw my roomie but I felt insecure today when I noticed I was being a validation junkie...
I noticed I become selfish and groggy and insecure...
when I feel happy and help someone and be funnny I start to roll.
I noticed this is emotional drainning...especially with deep comfort.
So Im reviewing verbal attraction and spike emotions.
I feel insecure and my reality changes..weird
then I built confidence...
so far..
Ive been descent but I have hardcore flirty girls that I dont know what to do...
When I noticed when I talk Im in state I improv and force myself to find a joke up front...
what Im going to try to do is to try to reproduce.
My state droped low today cause...I felt my bodyy was tired and drained
that affected my interaction.
so Im reviewing RSD mastermind verbal attraction
I got soo good and get soo bad but it my mojo or my state.
last night ran SOLID PHONE GAME
and today saw my roomie but I felt insecure today when I noticed I was being a validation junkie...
I noticed I become selfish and groggy and insecure...
when I feel happy and help someone and be funnny I start to roll.
I noticed this is emotional drainning...especially with deep comfort.
So Im reviewing verbal attraction and spike emotions.
I feel insecure and my reality changes..weird
transitions from text to phone
nobody talks about it and I personally have experimented in beong scared not calling girls and the fear of fuck up...
i over texted girls and never liked to talk on the phone.
I have to admit that Doc Holliday and Entropy , Saffron style of game wore off.
All their stuff is golden and they used to call it Practical Pickup...
one year later im finally getting it but after chilllin in afcdam
I noticed that there differnt styles and no one talks about a solid game plan.
First for text I like braddocks text game its light and funny
very good understanding about momentum... this made me better cause it was overall making things fun...and making fun of her.
eltopo is sexual texting which is ok but I used some and its advanced... Im still tryng to calibrate it to my game.
if you dont have attraction its sexual needy
I like to keep it simple and make the interaction move forward,
phone game 2.o by sinn is awesome with his neediness defined as well.
OK back to topic
TRANSITION from text to phone...
style aka neil strauss guy made up the FTC or flase time constraint
or what adam calls it ..the justification.
so adam uses " my fingers hurt"
I use FTC reverse opener... so far it works in the middle of texting 3 texts and its at night:
" Haha. or Hey I cant talk long , have to get back to my friends.
but i wanted to say hi, can you talk for a sec."
from there you joke onn the music or what she said and make her laugh....then you say so whats up
I used to do the jeffy story
or mehow thing but I use the mehow thing when its in the day...
I like phone game and I follow doc holidays stuff as in sinns lay reports book.
hope this helps
NOTE: If she doesnt pick up the phone..you text right away..
Nice. tried calling you
i got that from a girl that was gaming me and my roomie spoke to her as I modeled his phone game...
i over texted girls and never liked to talk on the phone.
I have to admit that Doc Holliday and Entropy , Saffron style of game wore off.
All their stuff is golden and they used to call it Practical Pickup...
one year later im finally getting it but after chilllin in afcdam
I noticed that there differnt styles and no one talks about a solid game plan.
First for text I like braddocks text game its light and funny
very good understanding about momentum... this made me better cause it was overall making things fun...and making fun of her.
eltopo is sexual texting which is ok but I used some and its advanced... Im still tryng to calibrate it to my game.
if you dont have attraction its sexual needy
I like to keep it simple and make the interaction move forward,
phone game 2.o by sinn is awesome with his neediness defined as well.
OK back to topic
TRANSITION from text to phone...
style aka neil strauss guy made up the FTC or flase time constraint
or what adam calls it ..the justification.
so adam uses " my fingers hurt"
I use FTC reverse opener... so far it works in the middle of texting 3 texts and its at night:
" Haha. or Hey I cant talk long , have to get back to my friends.
but i wanted to say hi, can you talk for a sec."
from there you joke onn the music or what she said and make her laugh....then you say so whats up
I used to do the jeffy story
or mehow thing but I use the mehow thing when its in the day...
I like phone game and I follow doc holidays stuff as in sinns lay reports book.
hope this helps
NOTE: If she doesnt pick up the phone..you text right away..
Nice. tried calling you
i got that from a girl that was gaming me and my roomie spoke to her as I modeled his phone game...
just chillin and thoughts on attraction experimenting,NLP
whats up guys,
fri and sat was cool..
I was talking and chilling with northern nights (one of my good friends)and
his wing which seemed cool.
I was happy things were changing for him, I think its his game going to change.
just crazy cause I feel Im draging girls that are interested.
I was with adam a student pulled a red hair woman and I love red hair women...lol.
I was jealous..but I helped him out got him and fixed his delivery ande gve him a style...whcih Im not getting paid for at all..plus I kind of feel weird being there
cause I think Im better in alot of ways even in being congruent with myself and noticed they were seeking validation...and I noticed that some werent getting laid consistently...
FOR ME: My game is consistent whenIm at comfort closing phase maybe even a bit better than most Ive met...but Attraction I have to give adam's atyle is awesome..just a note its hard to learn it in a weekend after he explains it overly too much theory...but one of his coaches was super good in attraction.
I like modeling from a master. High attraction game for night game but too overly for daygame.
he gave me awesome advice:
they sexually initate escalation through text ,you call them:
you blame them for calling you, you saty quiet and say I knew you were going to be trouble...I dont know what Im going to do with you... and escalate for a meet up.
also forgot to ask break rapport and flirts back he says escalate...
I like how he breaks rapport and doesnt smile when he does it and releases it with a smile....he is a master dude.
MAde me think I need to do daygame and nightgame
problem is money
So Im going to post up a donation thing at the bottom so you can buy me a drink...lol
thougths on attraction
In MM whcih I like alot but rarely follow but does work btw
its a time line and in the A phase is attraction or interest phase...
this is cool but you keep gaming.
I always go from A to comfort in every set...when I get a girl I flirt with alot and feel Its attraction I get a non genuine feeling or lose edge...I have to ask adam.
anyways..
you always have to lead.
I have a rotation Im starting off and last night ran deep comfort game mixed in with MrM 9 and 10 game which skyrocketed me to success.
bar personas frame..being real and emotional progression model
this is what Ive been doing that way I feel game is effortless.
I think Im getting good with comfort - closing
Ive done it and built it ..my problems are advanced stuff and relationship mangement...
open MLTRs
which adam does it quite nicely...
I liked amanda alot ...I learned from her and she said enjoy it.
also what I liked is sinns stuff ..advanced comfort material.
Game gets easy once you calibrate and have overall undertone where the intereaction is going its simple dude...
LAST NIGHT
I ran phone game
on 2 girls anti community beilef as experiment ran deep comfort..with NLP
maybe 1 or 2 hrs each weird but Im not expecting anything just pushing my limits..
I used erotic phone service is extra routine
-incredible connection pattern
-qualifiction SNL's
-and descriptive arrousal words simulating to food
-ran sexual escalation kissing by phone
-getting her to affirm that they was going to be sex involved but in a subtle wording..
-calibration..gaging her even when theres a disagreement ..you say " I kind of know what you mean..I never really thought about it that way.."
thats somethign I naturally did after a girl qualified herslef that I was super attracted..HBlucy in seatle
I lost her cause i did escalate and made it awkward after she wouldnt reply or reciprocate was being reactive...losing attraction.
and made them give me nicknames and verbalize wanting to see me..installed fear of loss .. they would state or request their intentions they wanted in a relationship...
like they were looking for a open realtionship or whatever ...they would say it.
they even say that they didnt want serious abut wanted someon they hug and kiss and that they are independent withou me stating or making demands...
they open up....
ONCE YOU ARE IN COMFORT the game changes......
Im thinking of calling this CHAMELEON phase
its you getting what you want at the end and filling in her gaps of what she is looking for therefore you are molding into her..making you the ideal man in her head...
she will do ANYTHING to please to keep this guy
like MRM and bradock says in my fav: 9 & 10 game
avoid flinch points and you're set
as Im writting this I just got a text from a girl I got her to get emotional and chase me....
-S
Im considering coaching that way I can help others...
fri and sat was cool..
I was talking and chilling with northern nights (one of my good friends)and
his wing which seemed cool.
I was happy things were changing for him, I think its his game going to change.
just crazy cause I feel Im draging girls that are interested.
I was with adam a student pulled a red hair woman and I love red hair women...lol.
I was jealous..but I helped him out got him and fixed his delivery ande gve him a style...whcih Im not getting paid for at all..plus I kind of feel weird being there
cause I think Im better in alot of ways even in being congruent with myself and noticed they were seeking validation...and I noticed that some werent getting laid consistently...
FOR ME: My game is consistent whenIm at comfort closing phase maybe even a bit better than most Ive met...but Attraction I have to give adam's atyle is awesome..just a note its hard to learn it in a weekend after he explains it overly too much theory...but one of his coaches was super good in attraction.
I like modeling from a master. High attraction game for night game but too overly for daygame.
he gave me awesome advice:
they sexually initate escalation through text ,you call them:
you blame them for calling you, you saty quiet and say I knew you were going to be trouble...I dont know what Im going to do with you... and escalate for a meet up.
also forgot to ask break rapport and flirts back he says escalate...
I like how he breaks rapport and doesnt smile when he does it and releases it with a smile....he is a master dude.
MAde me think I need to do daygame and nightgame
problem is money
So Im going to post up a donation thing at the bottom so you can buy me a drink...lol
thougths on attraction
In MM whcih I like alot but rarely follow but does work btw
its a time line and in the A phase is attraction or interest phase...
this is cool but you keep gaming.
I always go from A to comfort in every set...when I get a girl I flirt with alot and feel Its attraction I get a non genuine feeling or lose edge...I have to ask adam.
anyways..
you always have to lead.
I have a rotation Im starting off and last night ran deep comfort game mixed in with MrM 9 and 10 game which skyrocketed me to success.
bar personas frame..being real and emotional progression model
this is what Ive been doing that way I feel game is effortless.
I think Im getting good with comfort - closing
Ive done it and built it ..my problems are advanced stuff and relationship mangement...
open MLTRs
which adam does it quite nicely...
I liked amanda alot ...I learned from her and she said enjoy it.
also what I liked is sinns stuff ..advanced comfort material.
Game gets easy once you calibrate and have overall undertone where the intereaction is going its simple dude...
LAST NIGHT
I ran phone game
on 2 girls anti community beilef as experiment ran deep comfort..with NLP
maybe 1 or 2 hrs each weird but Im not expecting anything just pushing my limits..
I used erotic phone service is extra routine
-incredible connection pattern
-qualifiction SNL's
-and descriptive arrousal words simulating to food
-ran sexual escalation kissing by phone
-getting her to affirm that they was going to be sex involved but in a subtle wording..
-calibration..gaging her even when theres a disagreement ..you say " I kind of know what you mean..I never really thought about it that way.."
thats somethign I naturally did after a girl qualified herslef that I was super attracted..HBlucy in seatle
I lost her cause i did escalate and made it awkward after she wouldnt reply or reciprocate was being reactive...losing attraction.
and made them give me nicknames and verbalize wanting to see me..installed fear of loss .. they would state or request their intentions they wanted in a relationship...
like they were looking for a open realtionship or whatever ...they would say it.
they even say that they didnt want serious abut wanted someon they hug and kiss and that they are independent withou me stating or making demands...
they open up....
ONCE YOU ARE IN COMFORT the game changes......
Im thinking of calling this CHAMELEON phase
its you getting what you want at the end and filling in her gaps of what she is looking for therefore you are molding into her..making you the ideal man in her head...
she will do ANYTHING to please to keep this guy
like MRM and bradock says in my fav: 9 & 10 game
avoid flinch points and you're set
as Im writting this I just got a text from a girl I got her to get emotional and chase me....
-S
Im considering coaching that way I can help others...
Friday, June 12, 2009
LR vikchick and management after sex lost sm bunny in date
Im super tired and have to do laundry and have to meet up with adam and have a date w music teach which mught flake but since I started using chemistry game and fear of loss ashe kept insisting for friday which I then had a problem cause I was suppose to see vikchick...
but..I had vikchik call me and she asked me what im doing later and I said what you have in mind whcih is not that effective but since we have comfort you can get away with almost anything puls she was calling me and I called her the previous night... she was obsessed abit...so I obliged to meet up with her thrusday night... I never had a d3 or d2 or whatever cause I ran out of material...puls weather and logistics and playing it cool....this is what most poeple and entropy calls it ...DONT FUCK IT UP GAME
she is intersted and investeing and wants to see me...
I was nervous cause i was ..period.
I had ran game and was scared that she might lose interest and lost her.
I saw her and she kissed me and kino my hand like middle school kids do to get girls horny and I kisse dher and slowed it down and played hard to get ..this was a risk cause she would have gotten upset and left but I took her to times square and we kissed and I wasnt talking and she started asking me whats wrong with me
DAMAGE CONTROL
I told her that it was the weather and that this weather makes me want to stay home and chill and the place I was going to take her was outdoor type and its was foggy and I get fuzzy when the weather gets ugly...
she didnt believe me but it made sense why and I built trust so she had no choice but to believe me.
i got a cab and we went to my apt.
I bought wiane cause she like s wine and loosens me up ...lol
remeber Im trying to reverse the roles and I was nervous and confused I never close without routines...
so I would freeze out and nothing good on tv and I took off shoes then ordered food and we drank she slow it down...and she would kiss me...
then I took off my shirt and she poured winne on my chest and licked it...
I used sinns arrousal spots and back off...
basic comfort and convo chit caht and tease her a bit and sexual then kiss and pull back
then
It was hot and took of my pants..entering KFP ala topo but I was finnese like entropy says always be finnese the close
she lept aroousing me and kept feedin my wine from her mouth...
io waso turned on that I over escalate and she pulled back
she calm me down cause I was nervous but I plyed it out
she kept chwecking in are you fell bettter baby? in russina accent
I told her to go to the room and we went and I took it further and did sinns ass arousal and she stoped and I tried to suck tities and she wouldnt let me...
I then sinceI was in autopilot...wanted to give her a massage,,,she gaqve me one the last time btw... so I made her take of blouse shirt whatever and I was giving her and opened her bra without hesitation like it was natural and kisse dher neck and her body and towards her ass...
she was super arooused did that for 3 -5 minutes
and after that I stopped kissed her and did since ass arousal again
and tried pulling her pants down and she let me and she said
"LET TAKE A SHOWER FIRST"
we did and she was pampering me since i ran some of advanced comfort or sinns qualifiacation of i like girls who take care fo her man...she was attracted therefore becaome my pleasure giver....
we got out i stayed in shower she got on the bed..and waited for me
she was soo beautiful
grey eyes blonde hair tall my height and body was ass was my type not too big nor too small...
i ketp teasing her which I did to lacewy the stripper when i closed that
reverse the frame...
I triggered points as per nina hartley and then transition to arrousing the clitoris w my togue as Im fingering her...she said I love your lips you kiss good I never had this soo good..she wanted 69 and did 69...did modified squirt gesture b while I stimulated the clitoris she gave me some awesome head...
she wanted me to fuck her and she said fuck me baby you got me horny in her russian accent
I made her suck my cock and pull her hair and lick my balls damn she is a good fuck
go
and rolled a condom in and fuckd her since Im freak I do this thing I like and she loved it ..then I said to her that "i want to come on her pretty face " and come on her ass...
she said "I want you to fuck me in the ass"...
I did but I kindah did too rough cause hse afterwards said I need to practice fucking in the ass.."it hurt alot too rough"...lol
after se x did debreif and said she liked me since we came back from my place and I wasnt rushing things and that it happend cause I got her very horny...LIAR.lol
she had bought cherries and we ate cheerys and made out she ketp feeding me...
I think she reallly liked me...
she took a shower
after that we fucked again
she said she couldnt stay over and I said ok
she kept talking about her past guys but she never connected with a guy before...
she also defined the realationship when she said
"I know you love sex but I dont want you to be obsessed with sex..Imnot an object.. I like you and your conversation with you and i dont want to change this..its a balance"
this is GOLDENcause she was investing and it was respecting her wishes which I fucked up on s&M bunny...
I met with her at 945pm and I was fucking her 11pm
we went to sleep at 3am
she ended satying over and I woke up at 5 am and 830 am and fucked again took a shower and my bed was stained ... :(
I acted like I had to go and we took a cab to trian station and she bought me coffee fro starbucks....
I kissed her and told me to call her...
ONLY THING I FUCKED UP AFTER SEX is that I said she was beautifull ..tooo many SOI's which was too redundant and seem needy..she corrected me with Im normal pretty..
I calibrated with not saying more SOI's...and acting aloof and assuming friendship and had to tone down sexuality and kissing... it was too much kissing
she corrected me again ...you kissme more times than anyman.
calibration
I called my boy and he told me she is in the books and its off to the next ones..
I called her later and opened with
"hey i hope you are having a good day..Im sore thanks to you : )"
I had to calibrate it cause she wouldnt get it so i told her that she wore me out...and she talked about her having a good time and she transition to something else about her wetting the bed... I said Im going home to do laundry and meet my friend ADAM :) .lol. and I teased about practice and she said its like workout we need to practice with each other cause you are too rough in bed..lol
then I said i enjoyd it and she said if i liked the wine on my chest i said it was awesome... (validation)
then she said she would get wet her ex ould freak out and i said I felt like we were seeing each other for a long time soo It is normal,right? ...
NLP anchor to agree and solidfying frame
I ended convo with time constraint and she said we talk later.
WORD!
ANALYSIS
sm bunny fuckup
what vikchick did after sex was awesome I fucked up with sm cause i did what any guy do and DTR before sex... so she assume GFmode
I ened up fucking it up cause i wanted to fuck her and when she said no I got upset and she creid and she later dumpd me that night...
I try using negs and other stuff even jealousy and persuasion language but she said
"i wanted her just for sex and I made her feel cheap"
Ther was no point in arguing with a woman when her feelings are strong...
ask my mom ...lol
but I did sinns youre awesome and put her into friends zone cause I build comfort but she would keep at it that I fucked up and that meant she was still interested in me but then she told me
she was falling in love...with me.
I spoke to roomie and he said that that girl was just a warm-up...
whihc is true cause i tried all types of stuff to recover even push pull but I think she figured me out cause she saw my cards.. it was beter to just be chill and not respond and let it sit till she cooled off...
but I knew she was done and out of practice tried recovery game....
only thing is that we are freinds and we still communicate and she said she was going to think about going back with me...which at this point I dont care....
another problem is that you get needy trying to fix things in damage contrl and it makes it worse..you lose points by trying too hard... you just apologize and be compassionate and let her cool off dont insist...her feeligns are too strong...
great stuff Im learning...
she is a great gierl and took me to brroklyn and paid for dinner and taxi...but I wantd sex...I guess lack of self control..
but..I had vikchik call me and she asked me what im doing later and I said what you have in mind whcih is not that effective but since we have comfort you can get away with almost anything puls she was calling me and I called her the previous night... she was obsessed abit...so I obliged to meet up with her thrusday night... I never had a d3 or d2 or whatever cause I ran out of material...puls weather and logistics and playing it cool....this is what most poeple and entropy calls it ...DONT FUCK IT UP GAME
she is intersted and investeing and wants to see me...
I was nervous cause i was ..period.
I had ran game and was scared that she might lose interest and lost her.
I saw her and she kissed me and kino my hand like middle school kids do to get girls horny and I kisse dher and slowed it down and played hard to get ..this was a risk cause she would have gotten upset and left but I took her to times square and we kissed and I wasnt talking and she started asking me whats wrong with me
DAMAGE CONTROL
I told her that it was the weather and that this weather makes me want to stay home and chill and the place I was going to take her was outdoor type and its was foggy and I get fuzzy when the weather gets ugly...
she didnt believe me but it made sense why and I built trust so she had no choice but to believe me.
i got a cab and we went to my apt.
I bought wiane cause she like s wine and loosens me up ...lol
remeber Im trying to reverse the roles and I was nervous and confused I never close without routines...
so I would freeze out and nothing good on tv and I took off shoes then ordered food and we drank she slow it down...and she would kiss me...
then I took off my shirt and she poured winne on my chest and licked it...
I used sinns arrousal spots and back off...
basic comfort and convo chit caht and tease her a bit and sexual then kiss and pull back
then
It was hot and took of my pants..entering KFP ala topo but I was finnese like entropy says always be finnese the close
she lept aroousing me and kept feedin my wine from her mouth...
io waso turned on that I over escalate and she pulled back
she calm me down cause I was nervous but I plyed it out
she kept chwecking in are you fell bettter baby? in russina accent
I told her to go to the room and we went and I took it further and did sinns ass arousal and she stoped and I tried to suck tities and she wouldnt let me...
I then sinceI was in autopilot...wanted to give her a massage,,,she gaqve me one the last time btw... so I made her take of blouse shirt whatever and I was giving her and opened her bra without hesitation like it was natural and kisse dher neck and her body and towards her ass...
she was super arooused did that for 3 -5 minutes
and after that I stopped kissed her and did since ass arousal again
and tried pulling her pants down and she let me and she said
"LET TAKE A SHOWER FIRST"
we did and she was pampering me since i ran some of advanced comfort or sinns qualifiacation of i like girls who take care fo her man...she was attracted therefore becaome my pleasure giver....
we got out i stayed in shower she got on the bed..and waited for me
she was soo beautiful
grey eyes blonde hair tall my height and body was ass was my type not too big nor too small...
i ketp teasing her which I did to lacewy the stripper when i closed that
reverse the frame...
I triggered points as per nina hartley and then transition to arrousing the clitoris w my togue as Im fingering her...she said I love your lips you kiss good I never had this soo good..she wanted 69 and did 69...did modified squirt gesture b while I stimulated the clitoris she gave me some awesome head...
she wanted me to fuck her and she said fuck me baby you got me horny in her russian accent
I made her suck my cock and pull her hair and lick my balls damn she is a good fuck
go
and rolled a condom in and fuckd her since Im freak I do this thing I like and she loved it ..then I said to her that "i want to come on her pretty face " and come on her ass...
she said "I want you to fuck me in the ass"...
I did but I kindah did too rough cause hse afterwards said I need to practice fucking in the ass.."it hurt alot too rough"...lol
after se x did debreif and said she liked me since we came back from my place and I wasnt rushing things and that it happend cause I got her very horny...LIAR.lol
she had bought cherries and we ate cheerys and made out she ketp feeding me...
I think she reallly liked me...
she took a shower
after that we fucked again
she said she couldnt stay over and I said ok
she kept talking about her past guys but she never connected with a guy before...
she also defined the realationship when she said
"I know you love sex but I dont want you to be obsessed with sex..Imnot an object.. I like you and your conversation with you and i dont want to change this..its a balance"
this is GOLDENcause she was investing and it was respecting her wishes which I fucked up on s&M bunny...
I met with her at 945pm and I was fucking her 11pm
we went to sleep at 3am
she ended satying over and I woke up at 5 am and 830 am and fucked again took a shower and my bed was stained ... :(
I acted like I had to go and we took a cab to trian station and she bought me coffee fro starbucks....
I kissed her and told me to call her...
ONLY THING I FUCKED UP AFTER SEX is that I said she was beautifull ..tooo many SOI's which was too redundant and seem needy..she corrected me with Im normal pretty..
I calibrated with not saying more SOI's...and acting aloof and assuming friendship and had to tone down sexuality and kissing... it was too much kissing
she corrected me again ...you kissme more times than anyman.
calibration
I called my boy and he told me she is in the books and its off to the next ones..
I called her later and opened with
"hey i hope you are having a good day..Im sore thanks to you : )"
I had to calibrate it cause she wouldnt get it so i told her that she wore me out...and she talked about her having a good time and she transition to something else about her wetting the bed... I said Im going home to do laundry and meet my friend ADAM :) .lol. and I teased about practice and she said its like workout we need to practice with each other cause you are too rough in bed..lol
then I said i enjoyd it and she said if i liked the wine on my chest i said it was awesome... (validation)
then she said she would get wet her ex ould freak out and i said I felt like we were seeing each other for a long time soo It is normal,right? ...
NLP anchor to agree and solidfying frame
I ended convo with time constraint and she said we talk later.
WORD!
ANALYSIS
sm bunny fuckup
what vikchick did after sex was awesome I fucked up with sm cause i did what any guy do and DTR before sex... so she assume GFmode
I ened up fucking it up cause i wanted to fuck her and when she said no I got upset and she creid and she later dumpd me that night...
I try using negs and other stuff even jealousy and persuasion language but she said
"i wanted her just for sex and I made her feel cheap"
Ther was no point in arguing with a woman when her feelings are strong...
ask my mom ...lol
but I did sinns youre awesome and put her into friends zone cause I build comfort but she would keep at it that I fucked up and that meant she was still interested in me but then she told me
she was falling in love...with me.
I spoke to roomie and he said that that girl was just a warm-up...
whihc is true cause i tried all types of stuff to recover even push pull but I think she figured me out cause she saw my cards.. it was beter to just be chill and not respond and let it sit till she cooled off...
but I knew she was done and out of practice tried recovery game....
only thing is that we are freinds and we still communicate and she said she was going to think about going back with me...which at this point I dont care....
another problem is that you get needy trying to fix things in damage contrl and it makes it worse..you lose points by trying too hard... you just apologize and be compassionate and let her cool off dont insist...her feeligns are too strong...
great stuff Im learning...
she is a great gierl and took me to brroklyn and paid for dinner and taxi...but I wantd sex...I guess lack of self control..
Monday, June 8, 2009
Latina women mentality
Hey whats up dudes
Im going to write this up cause I get frustrated sometimes and I have my personal reasons why..
That being said..
I want to talk today about Miami but mostly
LAtina women mentality
I come from a latin family
I was married to a latin woman
and My mom is latin.
I dont want to hate but i find MOST latin women to be:
- bossy
- want the man to do everything for them
- want to be princess.
especially when it comes to sex.
The want the old fashion courtship deal...except HOT puertorican women ; )
but seriously most LATIN women you take them to go out on a DATE or even say HANG OUT for them that means the same thing ...COURTSHIP
they think that as soom as you are talking to them ..that you are all about that and they are higher value and you should work for it.
that a woman has dignity and respect...
I agree in all levels but that doesnt mean thatshe is better than me
OR i have to put up with her nonsense
That were the MACHISMO COMES FROM
and believe it or NOT
It controls them but up to a certain LEVEL
the outside level of what MOST MEN DO WRONG
OK thats fine to to courtship GAME...if you are a woman or if you have a rotation and are seeing several women at the same time.
IMO its a waste of time unless she is beauty queen with money...even that becomes a problem cause I was married with a wealthy one.
I learned from my date in miami ALOT ... I thank her days later and till this day hasnt returned a text...maybe she thinks she is too good for me :P
first off we connected and I teased her and called her names...
kept in touch through texts.
until i got into town and just ran fun and intersting texts
I learned from Sinn in damge control to run fun and interesting to get her to ask YOU OUT
and I made her ask me out
and we met on a rainy day which is not common..
we met and she was very proctective but I know what i did wrong.
and it had to do what living in miami VS going to miami as a tourist
1) Latin women and dating are courtship if you live there...
they will fuck a tourist from ny or if you are white guy and have SNL
but if you live there they will want you to buy dinner and all types of shit like that...they demand attention and that you behave.sex is only when she wants.
2)DISTANCE and LOGISTICS
topo taught me logistics and sinn talks alot in snl course
basic stuff but in miami its driving and drinking and how to get her to your house without her sayingi have to go gto work and all types of objections.
I rather live near a shopping or place where theres alot of stuff going on and invite her by my way.
Latin women make all types of stupid excuses...
as with other women you can use social pressure and get them to do anything.
LATIN WOMEN
use alot of PUSH PULL
ANY WOMAN THAT DOES THAT HAS A HISTORY OF STALKERS
as per Paul Janka's book talks how when a woman shows push pull it can drive any man insane.
THERE IS TRUTH
They look up to their mom's for personal advice with men...courtship
They try to play madonna whore complex BS
when they are getting their thrill by either cheating or money or getting fat.
THATS WHY
I love white women
I love orange hair or blonde with green eyes
especially IRISH AMERICAN
call them white trash or whatever but the ones I meet are cool and I am unique for them....
THE DEBRIEF I GOT FROM MIAMI DATE was that she said
" You seem very diffrerent and Fun"
AKA BE COOLER THAN THE GIRL
I didnt close cause I over escalated and she paid for one round of drinks..I went too sexual and pushed it too far wihtout calibrating.
she got all bitchy and screamed at me in my car then called me 2 times and text me later that night...VERY INCONGRUENT and PUSH PULL
No thank you!
if you look at the date this was 2 weeks ago...
Im going to write this up cause I get frustrated sometimes and I have my personal reasons why..
That being said..
I want to talk today about Miami but mostly
LAtina women mentality
I come from a latin family
I was married to a latin woman
and My mom is latin.
I dont want to hate but i find MOST latin women to be:
- bossy
- want the man to do everything for them
- want to be princess.
especially when it comes to sex.
The want the old fashion courtship deal...except HOT puertorican women ; )
but seriously most LATIN women you take them to go out on a DATE or even say HANG OUT for them that means the same thing ...COURTSHIP
they think that as soom as you are talking to them ..that you are all about that and they are higher value and you should work for it.
that a woman has dignity and respect...
I agree in all levels but that doesnt mean thatshe is better than me
OR i have to put up with her nonsense
That were the MACHISMO COMES FROM
and believe it or NOT
It controls them but up to a certain LEVEL
the outside level of what MOST MEN DO WRONG
OK thats fine to to courtship GAME...if you are a woman or if you have a rotation and are seeing several women at the same time.
IMO its a waste of time unless she is beauty queen with money...even that becomes a problem cause I was married with a wealthy one.
I learned from my date in miami ALOT ... I thank her days later and till this day hasnt returned a text...maybe she thinks she is too good for me :P
first off we connected and I teased her and called her names...
kept in touch through texts.
until i got into town and just ran fun and intersting texts
I learned from Sinn in damge control to run fun and interesting to get her to ask YOU OUT
and I made her ask me out
and we met on a rainy day which is not common..
we met and she was very proctective but I know what i did wrong.
and it had to do what living in miami VS going to miami as a tourist
1) Latin women and dating are courtship if you live there...
they will fuck a tourist from ny or if you are white guy and have SNL
but if you live there they will want you to buy dinner and all types of shit like that...they demand attention and that you behave.sex is only when she wants.
2)DISTANCE and LOGISTICS
topo taught me logistics and sinn talks alot in snl course
basic stuff but in miami its driving and drinking and how to get her to your house without her sayingi have to go gto work and all types of objections.
I rather live near a shopping or place where theres alot of stuff going on and invite her by my way.
Latin women make all types of stupid excuses...
as with other women you can use social pressure and get them to do anything.
LATIN WOMEN
use alot of PUSH PULL
ANY WOMAN THAT DOES THAT HAS A HISTORY OF STALKERS
as per Paul Janka's book talks how when a woman shows push pull it can drive any man insane.
THERE IS TRUTH
They look up to their mom's for personal advice with men...courtship
They try to play madonna whore complex BS
when they are getting their thrill by either cheating or money or getting fat.
THATS WHY
I love white women
I love orange hair or blonde with green eyes
especially IRISH AMERICAN
call them white trash or whatever but the ones I meet are cool and I am unique for them....
THE DEBRIEF I GOT FROM MIAMI DATE was that she said
" You seem very diffrerent and Fun"
AKA BE COOLER THAN THE GIRL
I didnt close cause I over escalated and she paid for one round of drinks..I went too sexual and pushed it too far wihtout calibrating.
she got all bitchy and screamed at me in my car then called me 2 times and text me later that night...VERY INCONGRUENT and PUSH PULL
No thank you!
if you look at the date this was 2 weeks ago...
Sunday, June 7, 2009
FR date with HBvikchick
dude this woman was online as per the prvious post ..negged me.
and when I stood up for myself
she called me... while in miami.
I have to give credit to my new roomie cause his overall frame of being nonneedy yet persistent CANT BE TAUGHT AT A BOOTCAMP
you would need to live with a PUA or natural
So I owe him my streak...
its weiord cause I have several women emailing me and I might be booked for the week..
one the other hand Its a streak Im in
YOU NEED MONEY TO GAME!
not to pay gurus but to keep a rotation...
just ALWAYS MAKE HER PAY FOR SHIT
Ice cream pull is awesome CREDIT ADAM LYONS*
I have to also appraoch more
My game is semi direct with subcomunications basically comfort and tease then push pull and tease always frame as female male interaction.
when it stales to avoid awkward moments or friends zone is to escalate and pull away...I stole the "WOMAN" thing at the end to show dominance and leading.
sexual is just escalating but pulling back..avoid sexual needy and eveytime you always talk how you can fuck other people shows that you are at another level and not supplicating...
I never imagine I get women so emotionally invested in hours and love me for it.
actually chemistry...
FUCK NEXTING!
YOU NEXT In the beginning...even at that I kept gaming showing non neediness thats how I got this woman to a point to call me...
YOU PLOW UNTIL SHE LEAVES AND DOESNT RESPOND TO YOU
women are supposed to do that all aginst community belief...
Gorgeous and bitchy * as per MR M and braddok;s 9 and 10 game.
I basically had Doc strangelove call me and MMPUA A
major players from miami and experienced online gamers...
I have entropy's style of game and the guy MM instructor SAW and even PSYCH say that :
I have to be the loveable teddy bear
saffrom say dont be the nice guy ...be the awesome GUY!
FUCK MAN SAFFRON is just ahead of all this game.
as per Doc strangelove "act like the prize and high maintance women"
which fuckin worked.
Its weird cause ADAM preaches this nbeign the guy gay best friend but that fucks them....
On that note cant wait to see ADAM next week.
So all shit aside I have to write this up.
GROUNDHOG DAY DATE credit Doc Holliday and my "roomie dr"
she called me to meet up then called her to reassure the date and she called me up to meet later...
my phone game with her is not good so I had natural roomie game her for like 2 weeks spoke to her like 3 times until she called me...WEIRD!
she was abit demanding and I got scared...
she wanted to meet at the starbucks
I said ok... ( I stopped overthinking in game, thanks to dr roomie and entropy)
I text doc roomie and he said she was ready to go (he text me from california)
I show up LATE actually 30 minutes late ( against community belief)
and she was cold and I assume rapport and ran basic chit chat...
she talked and tried to lead.. I noticed I would lose her I would break rapport and tease or say something absord funny..push pull
she was engagged and I used social pressure to timebridge as per last LR
took a cab...go ther and didnt kiss or hug or nothing just winging it... she was just "venting"
I threw in Im sore and DHV kickboxing story this is also why she gave me a backrub later.threw in dhv story of funny knock me out story
AGAINST COMUNITY BELIEF as per roomie let her open up as per Sinn use sexual frames and understanding ..topo get her emotional invested.
she did all that work I just nodded as per adam lyons...
AT HIS POINT IT WAS CHAMELEON GAME... I related to her and building commonalites
light kino..almost minimal...
she is european very sexy and to me a fucking 10 and she knew it...she told me
the problem is she just broke up with a wealthy man older 20 years than her...
told me how her mother destroyed her previous marriage.
I used topo mini stack of insecure men and hi five after that
she has father issues but didnt tease her on insecurites..thats wehere community guiys arent calibrated.
thats why comfort is important before attraction and investement AFC adam
entropy as well but at a deeper connection
connection game is very strong very powerful...Im just trying to figure out how to turn it into obsession bu thats too much...women seem to open up and then nbehave like little girls..its weird.
they also dont like to be seen as objects of desire
they get creeped out or LMR ASD goes off and buyers remorse goes off and you are done...
IM trying to run SOLID GAME as per Sinn
you have solid game and pace her then you SNL or close
as per entropy SNL's depends on the girl in that monet not emotional but what she is looking for.
most SNL's is found in bars or clubs comfirmed by my date tonight
rare woman well traveled and very high class IMO
topic were as per doc holliday taught me
we arrived in wine bar and I acted like I knew the guys and she thought I was a regular.. ( social proof fake LOL)
lead her to where we sat..
at a point she was venting to much and I shared my stories and she lose attention amnd I interupt her pattern..
I would mirror her alot and I would show too much interest would touch a little and take away..I would accuse her of makign me like her and to stop trying to copy me or say things ...she tease back and I would act like a high maintance woman...
I dhv my patient story made by saffron
I also would try to get her to feed me but it seem too soon.
she was a wine expert adn drank 3 wine or 4 wine plus ate calimari appetizer
and seed the ice cream TB.had her agree within the venue..
and I kissed her and she said i was a good kisser ( YEAH I HAD PRACTICE LOL)
I pull back but she would like everytime I escalate and she would be subtle we cant kiss in public or someshit like that...(social intelligence shit test)
I blame her for it and ran the MM classic line I feel foolish blah blah
ran push pull
and did dhv stripper ex credit mystery
showed understanding what it is being with a 10...modified sinns snl course
beauty is common and Im looking for more than a pretty face
qualification what you go to going more than your looks :)
coma story she would ofcourse compliment and invest into it.
saffron's giver taker frame
she is musician so I talked about gifts and talents
how we are both driven
she asked for my BDAY IOI
she reward my compliance
I kissed her like 2 times in venue
ran SNL frames within conversation
nonjudgmental
discrete
no consequence
sex is normal
did topos stack of I have sisters female insider views are different sitautaion in society
she asked about books favorite books amnd I ran cosmo routine..laughed her ass off
did this to reinforced that she was falling in love and not BFF
IT was hard cause its DONT FUCK UP GAME
european arent used to too mushy or too much touching and she was dismissive...
so I definatley played different than other men.
I ran "I usually dont like like this but its rare I feel I can trust you and pinky swear..." reinforce that se wont judge me REINFORCING THE FRAMES BEFORE THE CLOSE!
( create a bubble natural bubble)
I would tease her as we left
amd she started spanking me cause I tease her asnd i do takeaways
she help to TB cause she noticed they were throwing us out so outside I was like she say " we are crazy and I spike her BT and said we are in a big city but its a small world" whtever she said she understood LOL bubble
she tongued me down
I told her right before the cab that I wanted her to be my sexy bunny
she called me her "jelly bean"
in the car she would say she was drunk I say I WANT ice cream
she didnt want to pay for ice cream and I used social pressure and asked her if she was a liar.
kept saying "Jelly Bean" and made her say bunny in russian and said it back to her
I did a show in front of the mexicans at the store
display of game
she paid for it INVESTEMENT she choose the ice cream and I reward her for having good taste and kissed her .. (NLP anchor)
she was wher Im I and I said i have to get ogin so I walk you out ... (ozzie rsd as per last LR)
she went up to the apt and i gave her the tour
and she took her shoes off LOVEDROP
did view TB and thus made it congryuent and fed her ice cream and got her on the BED and we made out...
I escalate but it was thin line...
she had a g string and I almost lost control
she had started spanking me and
she wanted to give me a backrub and I would kiss her after it escalating and did saffrons hairpull rouitine
she loved it and felt arrousal and I would stop and push pull and go into ice cream..
funny and joking
then she stood up and I ran natural woman pattern added "the sluts and whores"
made out with her and she was like I have to go ...
I knew where my limit was so I do a freeze out in the bathroom and texted my boys northern nights and doc strangelove.
she was sitting watching TV and I escalated again and she took it away...
_______________
mistake:she beat me at takeaways and I should have ran non needy frame of we should take it slow and I didnt take off my pants...the momentum wasnt ther for it though..
i didnt say "we are not having sex tonight Im tired"
FORGOT
strawberry fields
she was battling her emotions with ASD,
I didnt manage it that well
good girl face bad girl manerisms
interupt her objjections verbally while physically escalting
like CJ's LR goodgirlface
________
we walked out and she hold my hand and I showed non needy sex frame...
she kissed me alot and I lead
we got a cab
in the cab she had her head in my lap and kissed my hand and kept scratching me like a cat and i would go half way on a kiss and she go for it..
she would caress me
she felt emotional investement
we got off and I picked her up to splike her BT ..she said I was strong.
I had a driver AMOG me I hold my frame and acted cool until he left.
she hold my hadn and walked her to the station
and we stayed there talking ( same as previous LR and same stop LOL)
I also threw in about sex and how easy it is here in nyc..and asked her if she is jealous cause I get appraoched by women
she dhv that SNL is for bars and that she doesnt like to be pressured and that in europe women ask men to sleep with them...and over there appraoching or touching a woman is against the law..and she get appraoched by lesbian butch women.
and how europe the german man doesnt force women to asex so he cheats.
they fly out to other countries to fuck whores.
I DHV I guess they dont have a strong connection game and they have to do that.. I rather not waste my time and be honest.
she also said that she doesnt like to be pressured
and she said she liked saffron's hair pull routine.
and I showed vunerability which was to show I was cool and threw in that I dont know if we are going to see each other again and she said yes wehen we are both free we go dancing...she use her nails again and she pulled back on kissing.
I told her to call me when she is home....
she said yes and that she cant text me ( she spoke about her brother)
i looked up my phone and saw cuddle bunny textd me so i got home and called her and ran Im busy and tired
then as i hang up my date calls me up and calls me honey
I act cool and do the i will talk to you later...
---next day she calls at 11am and I call her back we talk a liittle but she doesnt understand my jokes by the phone.
she asked me what im doing later and I said work ( i wasnt sure what she meant)
I said I was going to subway to talk to her later
----
I spoke to my friend
sometimes it doesnt happen on the first night
and his advice was that you need to take her to another one
and sometimes it takes a couple of dates doesnt matter...
------------------
SHOOT Suggestions on the FR
and when I stood up for myself
she called me... while in miami.
I have to give credit to my new roomie cause his overall frame of being nonneedy yet persistent CANT BE TAUGHT AT A BOOTCAMP
you would need to live with a PUA or natural
So I owe him my streak...
its weiord cause I have several women emailing me and I might be booked for the week..
one the other hand Its a streak Im in
YOU NEED MONEY TO GAME!
not to pay gurus but to keep a rotation...
just ALWAYS MAKE HER PAY FOR SHIT
Ice cream pull is awesome CREDIT ADAM LYONS*
I have to also appraoch more
My game is semi direct with subcomunications basically comfort and tease then push pull and tease always frame as female male interaction.
when it stales to avoid awkward moments or friends zone is to escalate and pull away...I stole the "WOMAN" thing at the end to show dominance and leading.
sexual is just escalating but pulling back..avoid sexual needy and eveytime you always talk how you can fuck other people shows that you are at another level and not supplicating...
I never imagine I get women so emotionally invested in hours and love me for it.
actually chemistry...
FUCK NEXTING!
YOU NEXT In the beginning...even at that I kept gaming showing non neediness thats how I got this woman to a point to call me...
YOU PLOW UNTIL SHE LEAVES AND DOESNT RESPOND TO YOU
women are supposed to do that all aginst community belief...
Gorgeous and bitchy * as per MR M and braddok;s 9 and 10 game.
I basically had Doc strangelove call me and MMPUA A
major players from miami and experienced online gamers...
I have entropy's style of game and the guy MM instructor SAW and even PSYCH say that :
I have to be the loveable teddy bear
saffrom say dont be the nice guy ...be the awesome GUY!
FUCK MAN SAFFRON is just ahead of all this game.
as per Doc strangelove "act like the prize and high maintance women"
which fuckin worked.
Its weird cause ADAM preaches this nbeign the guy gay best friend but that fucks them....
On that note cant wait to see ADAM next week.
So all shit aside I have to write this up.
GROUNDHOG DAY DATE credit Doc Holliday and my "roomie dr"
she called me to meet up then called her to reassure the date and she called me up to meet later...
my phone game with her is not good so I had natural roomie game her for like 2 weeks spoke to her like 3 times until she called me...WEIRD!
she was abit demanding and I got scared...
she wanted to meet at the starbucks
I said ok... ( I stopped overthinking in game, thanks to dr roomie and entropy)
I text doc roomie and he said she was ready to go (he text me from california)
I show up LATE actually 30 minutes late ( against community belief)
and she was cold and I assume rapport and ran basic chit chat...
she talked and tried to lead.. I noticed I would lose her I would break rapport and tease or say something absord funny..push pull
she was engagged and I used social pressure to timebridge as per last LR
took a cab...go ther and didnt kiss or hug or nothing just winging it... she was just "venting"
I threw in Im sore and DHV kickboxing story this is also why she gave me a backrub later.threw in dhv story of funny knock me out story
AGAINST COMUNITY BELIEF as per roomie let her open up as per Sinn use sexual frames and understanding ..topo get her emotional invested.
she did all that work I just nodded as per adam lyons...
AT HIS POINT IT WAS CHAMELEON GAME... I related to her and building commonalites
light kino..almost minimal...
she is european very sexy and to me a fucking 10 and she knew it...she told me
the problem is she just broke up with a wealthy man older 20 years than her...
told me how her mother destroyed her previous marriage.
I used topo mini stack of insecure men and hi five after that
she has father issues but didnt tease her on insecurites..thats wehere community guiys arent calibrated.
thats why comfort is important before attraction and investement AFC adam
entropy as well but at a deeper connection
connection game is very strong very powerful...Im just trying to figure out how to turn it into obsession bu thats too much...women seem to open up and then nbehave like little girls..its weird.
they also dont like to be seen as objects of desire
they get creeped out or LMR ASD goes off and buyers remorse goes off and you are done...
IM trying to run SOLID GAME as per Sinn
you have solid game and pace her then you SNL or close
as per entropy SNL's depends on the girl in that monet not emotional but what she is looking for.
most SNL's is found in bars or clubs comfirmed by my date tonight
rare woman well traveled and very high class IMO
topic were as per doc holliday taught me
we arrived in wine bar and I acted like I knew the guys and she thought I was a regular.. ( social proof fake LOL)
lead her to where we sat..
at a point she was venting to much and I shared my stories and she lose attention amnd I interupt her pattern..
I would mirror her alot and I would show too much interest would touch a little and take away..I would accuse her of makign me like her and to stop trying to copy me or say things ...she tease back and I would act like a high maintance woman...
I dhv my patient story made by saffron
I also would try to get her to feed me but it seem too soon.
she was a wine expert adn drank 3 wine or 4 wine plus ate calimari appetizer
and seed the ice cream TB.had her agree within the venue..
and I kissed her and she said i was a good kisser ( YEAH I HAD PRACTICE LOL)
I pull back but she would like everytime I escalate and she would be subtle we cant kiss in public or someshit like that...(social intelligence shit test)
I blame her for it and ran the MM classic line I feel foolish blah blah
ran push pull
and did dhv stripper ex credit mystery
showed understanding what it is being with a 10...modified sinns snl course
beauty is common and Im looking for more than a pretty face
qualification what you go to going more than your looks :)
coma story she would ofcourse compliment and invest into it.
saffron's giver taker frame
she is musician so I talked about gifts and talents
how we are both driven
she asked for my BDAY IOI
she reward my compliance
I kissed her like 2 times in venue
ran SNL frames within conversation
nonjudgmental
discrete
no consequence
sex is normal
did topos stack of I have sisters female insider views are different sitautaion in society
she asked about books favorite books amnd I ran cosmo routine..laughed her ass off
did this to reinforced that she was falling in love and not BFF
IT was hard cause its DONT FUCK UP GAME
european arent used to too mushy or too much touching and she was dismissive...
so I definatley played different than other men.
I ran "I usually dont like like this but its rare I feel I can trust you and pinky swear..." reinforce that se wont judge me REINFORCING THE FRAMES BEFORE THE CLOSE!
( create a bubble natural bubble)
I would tease her as we left
amd she started spanking me cause I tease her asnd i do takeaways
she help to TB cause she noticed they were throwing us out so outside I was like she say " we are crazy and I spike her BT and said we are in a big city but its a small world" whtever she said she understood LOL bubble
she tongued me down
I told her right before the cab that I wanted her to be my sexy bunny
she called me her "jelly bean"
in the car she would say she was drunk I say I WANT ice cream
she didnt want to pay for ice cream and I used social pressure and asked her if she was a liar.
kept saying "Jelly Bean" and made her say bunny in russian and said it back to her
I did a show in front of the mexicans at the store
display of game
she paid for it INVESTEMENT she choose the ice cream and I reward her for having good taste and kissed her .. (NLP anchor)
she was wher Im I and I said i have to get ogin so I walk you out ... (ozzie rsd as per last LR)
she went up to the apt and i gave her the tour
and she took her shoes off LOVEDROP
did view TB and thus made it congryuent and fed her ice cream and got her on the BED and we made out...
I escalate but it was thin line...
she had a g string and I almost lost control
she had started spanking me and
she wanted to give me a backrub and I would kiss her after it escalating and did saffrons hairpull rouitine
she loved it and felt arrousal and I would stop and push pull and go into ice cream..
funny and joking
then she stood up and I ran natural woman pattern added "the sluts and whores"
made out with her and she was like I have to go ...
I knew where my limit was so I do a freeze out in the bathroom and texted my boys northern nights and doc strangelove.
she was sitting watching TV and I escalated again and she took it away...
_______________
mistake:she beat me at takeaways and I should have ran non needy frame of we should take it slow and I didnt take off my pants...the momentum wasnt ther for it though..
i didnt say "we are not having sex tonight Im tired"
FORGOT
strawberry fields
she was battling her emotions with ASD,
I didnt manage it that well
good girl face bad girl manerisms
interupt her objjections verbally while physically escalting
like CJ's LR goodgirlface
________
we walked out and she hold my hand and I showed non needy sex frame...
she kissed me alot and I lead
we got a cab
in the cab she had her head in my lap and kissed my hand and kept scratching me like a cat and i would go half way on a kiss and she go for it..
she would caress me
she felt emotional investement
we got off and I picked her up to splike her BT ..she said I was strong.
I had a driver AMOG me I hold my frame and acted cool until he left.
she hold my hadn and walked her to the station
and we stayed there talking ( same as previous LR and same stop LOL)
I also threw in about sex and how easy it is here in nyc..and asked her if she is jealous cause I get appraoched by women
she dhv that SNL is for bars and that she doesnt like to be pressured and that in europe women ask men to sleep with them...and over there appraoching or touching a woman is against the law..and she get appraoched by lesbian butch women.
and how europe the german man doesnt force women to asex so he cheats.
they fly out to other countries to fuck whores.
I DHV I guess they dont have a strong connection game and they have to do that.. I rather not waste my time and be honest.
she also said that she doesnt like to be pressured
and she said she liked saffron's hair pull routine.
and I showed vunerability which was to show I was cool and threw in that I dont know if we are going to see each other again and she said yes wehen we are both free we go dancing...she use her nails again and she pulled back on kissing.
I told her to call me when she is home....
she said yes and that she cant text me ( she spoke about her brother)
i looked up my phone and saw cuddle bunny textd me so i got home and called her and ran Im busy and tired
then as i hang up my date calls me up and calls me honey
I act cool and do the i will talk to you later...
---next day she calls at 11am and I call her back we talk a liittle but she doesnt understand my jokes by the phone.
she asked me what im doing later and I said work ( i wasnt sure what she meant)
I said I was going to subway to talk to her later
----
I spoke to my friend
sometimes it doesnt happen on the first night
and his advice was that you need to take her to another one
and sometimes it takes a couple of dates doesnt matter...
------------------
SHOOT Suggestions on the FR
fear of loss triggers old numbers to react Hbnjmusic
so I ve been slow track hbnj music teach my first ever internet date.. I didnt do a good job...so I ve been building comfort by text and got flaked 2 times..
unlike community bvelief I havent nexted her just to compensate for too much sexual escalation too soon.
the thing her is that i lept texting her and understood her soo Im AFC for her...
she text me and I text her that im leavcing NYC...I did this seeing my roomie did that to a chick and she was crazy texting him for him to sexual escalate..
its too not rush too much and be chill
so I went vunerable and deep comfort and said I genuinely liked her but I might NOT see her again which I stole from a tyler durden rsd audio and she said we are going to meet and she set it up for monday....
Im doing alot of push pull calibrating the compliments
Its fucking on but my other chick is pushing to meet up.? Frame control
unlike community bvelief I havent nexted her just to compensate for too much sexual escalation too soon.
the thing her is that i lept texting her and understood her soo Im AFC for her...
she text me and I text her that im leavcing NYC...I did this seeing my roomie did that to a chick and she was crazy texting him for him to sexual escalate..
its too not rush too much and be chill
so I went vunerable and deep comfort and said I genuinely liked her but I might NOT see her again which I stole from a tyler durden rsd audio and she said we are going to meet and she set it up for monday....
Im doing alot of push pull calibrating the compliments
Its fucking on but my other chick is pushing to meet up.? Frame control
probable date with vikchick
theres this chick that gave me a hard time online and i plowed
and she neged me with poem of glory a NLP poem..she said it was garbage.
so I matched her and mirror her with affirming what we are talking and she calls doesnt text which is good...
Im not sure she is hungarian
my roomie did phone game and she was put on slow track
she called me up to meet up for date
Im not sure about her...
then i did what non community guys do and is to confirm..if you dont comfrm you are lacking comunication skills and being effective..only is you know its super on you dont do this..so i avoid flakes by being responsible adult.
I text her that Im behind schedule and set date for later and she said where which is OK for being a first date... rommie says warm her up and take her to next level...she is foregn so she is cold not too cuddling type...
so this is a challenge...
Im be shit tested cause i havent done deep rapport.
and she neged me with poem of glory a NLP poem..she said it was garbage.
so I matched her and mirror her with affirming what we are talking and she calls doesnt text which is good...
Im not sure she is hungarian
my roomie did phone game and she was put on slow track
she called me up to meet up for date
Im not sure about her...
then i did what non community guys do and is to confirm..if you dont comfrm you are lacking comunication skills and being effective..only is you know its super on you dont do this..so i avoid flakes by being responsible adult.
I text her that Im behind schedule and set date for later and she said where which is OK for being a first date... rommie says warm her up and take her to next level...she is foregn so she is cold not too cuddling type...
so this is a challenge...
Im be shit tested cause i havent done deep rapport.
S&M cuddle bunny manegment
She is asking to be my GF but It for validation purposes...
She gets emotional with me but I pull back
I have to follow sinns rule of neediness
The BEST thing is that we agree on seeing each other during the week
I like adams thought on dont invest let her invest more.
I kind of invested a little cause she wants validation
I have to text less and do less.
Im turning tino tto nice guy..I have to be a gentlemen but an asshole.
she wanbts to see me 2 times a week
-S
She gets emotional with me but I pull back
I have to follow sinns rule of neediness
The BEST thing is that we agree on seeing each other during the week
I like adams thought on dont invest let her invest more.
I kind of invested a little cause she wants validation
I have to text less and do less.
Im turning tino tto nice guy..I have to be a gentlemen but an asshole.
she wanbts to see me 2 times a week
-S
Saturday, June 6, 2009
next step things to do and want list
Ok this is explicit and Im going to say it :
since Im getting this girl into my rotation
YES
Im going to build a rotation
thats the best part of comfort connection game that I have them invested emotionally that I control them least I do the better.
a bit of understanding and leading and not investing alot too soon to scare her off
or beeing too mushy with her
space and balance and making her miss you here is key
sinn's rule of neediness is applied her about talking about feelings.
Im be chill same guy she met just a bit aggressive sexually but not explicit.
Im still in the works Im not yet all the way reached to a perfect consistence.
Im kind of learning along the way but so far learning it solidifies the process.
I know why I fucked up and i know how to correct it..
not at a technical level but subconcious.
as pers MPUA A-from miami
Im putting up a LIST what I want to do with women sexually
fuck her hardocre
experiment with BDSM
learn to trigger arrousal
deal with submissive girls
not too hardcore as my friends noterh nights says
nina hartleys stuff and practice and build self esteem from that.
relationship management as well.
Hmmmm
I wrote about this happening last week..improved soo fast ..
I going to have to text some bitches to line them up for weekeday dates LOL
since Im getting this girl into my rotation
YES
Im going to build a rotation
thats the best part of comfort connection game that I have them invested emotionally that I control them least I do the better.
a bit of understanding and leading and not investing alot too soon to scare her off
or beeing too mushy with her
space and balance and making her miss you here is key
sinn's rule of neediness is applied her about talking about feelings.
Im be chill same guy she met just a bit aggressive sexually but not explicit.
Im still in the works Im not yet all the way reached to a perfect consistence.
Im kind of learning along the way but so far learning it solidifies the process.
I know why I fucked up and i know how to correct it..
not at a technical level but subconcious.
as pers MPUA A-from miami
Im putting up a LIST what I want to do with women sexually
fuck her hardocre
experiment with BDSM
learn to trigger arrousal
deal with submissive girls
not too hardcore as my friends noterh nights says
nina hartleys stuff and practice and build self esteem from that.
relationship management as well.
Hmmmm
I wrote about this happening last week..improved soo fast ..
I going to have to text some bitches to line them up for weekeday dates LOL
LR S & M cuddle bunny.she disarmed KFP but I learned alot
Guys My head hurts and Im sore as fuck
so Im write this up cause there are alot of stuff I implemented here that I read heard and been suggested in the past
Pardon my grammar skills.
I closed on thursday night on my date... :)
I talked with Entropy on the phone and as per my game kind of improving through the phases and moving forward and all the good stuff.
the revelation was seeing my roomie bring a girl over have her sit there and make her giggling and laughing and then pull her in his room to fuck and me beng part of the act I help in saying i want to watch tv and He pulled.
this guy is a natural doesnt over think things but we realte alot but he doesnt take women thing seriosuly as to a point of doing PUA community stuff.
but he pulls and has a strong frame
I noticed his interaction skills are awesome cause he works wiht kids he plays with them and he calls it the "art of distraction"
to say things funny or whatever and throw things in between while moving forward.
I guess plausible denialbilty and not talking about things explicitly.
he has patience with the women he interacts...
after the next day I had the LR I was up and we worked together in poperating room and I felt awesome and yet he still had some hot russian woman kiss his arms and he show subtle yet slick suaveness then later had another not so cute girl text him dirty things when he just told her in fornt of me that he was seeing a couple of girls and I saw him fuck her and he was intorducing me to her
but i noticed the act of handing over a woman makes her validate herself more work for you..she was crazy texting her..asdide of the other girls he is seeing.
anyways
how he closed infront of me
and me slow the process and as per my last post making her want it more
Is like dont overgame
or dont fuck it up by saying somethign stupid or relying on a line when its not the right timing to use it
I guess the word is "understanding"
if you act like you understand them and non needy and dont try to get with them or meet up before getting them invested then he will take the initiative when she is laughing or he spikes her BT.
HE DOESNT NEXT
he builds more comfort until he gets what he wants
he doesnt punish them he freezes out and texts them a day later and acts non needy
he usually gets texted from them and he responds to them ASAP
ALWAYS
If you dont he says you are cuttign yourself off
you make intiaive and forget all that other shit
if she says something then you tell yourslef I will work on that no worry maybe she is having a hard time and shit and if I insist it will piss her off
LR HB cuddle bunny
met up with her she gave me LMR right before the the date freakin out
and i complied to her not being an asshole but being compassionate.
this is something the community is missing when you connect with someone
I used compassion to make her feel better and I used is as fear of loss when she triggered personal; questions about me asking me for last name where i work etc etc
I felt my self esteem and felt used when I gave that to her..it isnt a big deal but I felt she took something from me, therefore I felt that feels to a woman when they get buyers remorse...its calibrating the ionteraction being nice and compassionate and yet funny and edgy
I also noticed when he goes emotional he stops there and doesnt physically escalate which causes her or even me cause Im modeling him.. to escalate physically..
he holds back and smiles.
BAck to the date
instantly was confusing me where she was and I called her and she didnt pick up i used as a verbal distraction to say somnething to tease her
I didnt follow community advice just went with what I was modeling my friend and advice in the past from saffron, entropy and
MPUA A from miami into effect.
ozzie fromn rsd has some good stuff but if you havent close it will comnfuse you but some lines worked and I wasnt thinking about sex but I knew it was going to happen
I didnt need it but it was going to happen
the zen like thinking in closing is that.
assume rapport and showed I had balls to do that right off
not alot of kino.
She kissed me kind of right off and I stopped and said too soon.
I take it way and stop. her BT actual BT she was like its hot here.lol.
I would talk and make her laugh and confuse her (I was kind of nervous)
we took a cab to the wine bar
i kissed her there and did takeaway sinn* thats all you get
she kept doing sedxual advances to test me i guess and I said i need more comfort and trust sinn*
took her to wine bar lead and I thought that zen thinking.
I didnt kiss her there.
(different from what I was doing ) the intereaction was subtle sexually but it was like she initate it and I would just look at her and smile.( another thing we talked about Id overescalate or run the train)
the interaction at the wine bar was just like improv and the excersize i learned from Entropy at the bootcamp and his connection game and being intersting without boring her.
I ran RSD verbal attraction: shifting sands and No! in the middle of convo to break her state and get her to work more for my appraoval and my favorite and risky "you are my new bunny ..yeah my new cuddle bunny...Wait Its too fast .. or
I take that back" this calibrates her feeling good and when you compliment and its too much then you pull back by doing this instead of just releasing with dorkk or brat cause its too repetitive...breathrough comfort what i read kind of but it was more sexual frames and Entropys deep comfort with tease.
Emotional investment!
I paid for the drink and one mini burger slicers we shared or whatever
(against community belief not to eat but running entropys model of game a bite wasnt going to hurt and itwas a snack and transition to dessert and I showed sharing food is awesome important , creating a bubble)
I made her cut the 3rd in half to share it ..(male to female dynamic)
I told her she had to pay for dessert
she said OK
we were walking but I didnt want to kill momentum so I had initally timebridged in the beginning about apt and the view of other buildings its nice to watch.
and my late night eating habit of ice cream.
I FELT THIS WAS CRUCIAL CAUSE IT WAS CONGRUENT WITH WHO I WAS
and IT WAS NON SEXUAL
we took a cab to the corner store and she was were we are going
i said "get ice cream you promised wait dont tell me you are a liar cause if you are then Its OVER!" semi serious way but putting social pressure
she paid for the ice cream
GOT HER INVESTED THEREFORE
also its her job not to feel slutty and play hard to get when you escalate just dont aggressively do it its push pull and attraction again to build sexual tension.
"I lets eat this here show you wher I live and I will walk you to you train station cause I have to get up early tomorrow."
and she said "NO I dont do that" and I said
"Im asking you to share icecream and you are out the door"
used semi social pressure to get her ASD from kicking in and laugh at what she said..
"dont get any ideas ok " cocky funny to reduce the ASD In revesing the roles
we got up there no huggin no kissing
act cool like friends
and the "roomie" was watching laker game so ...he used that excuse the other day so he could pull his girl in his room...
so I said my friend is watching the game and I dont want you to bother him
(LEADERSHIP in a jokingly way)
want to show you the view I was talking to you about when we spoke on the phone ..she got in my room and I sat on the bed and I told her to take of her shoes and she gave me objections of she os sweaty and I said tmy bed is sacred take them off ( this objection like cultures or whatever, i made it up)asper lovedrops theory of women tkes her shoes off she can fuck you
had her on the bed turned off the lights to see the view (doublebind intention)kissed her and she stopped.
lights came on Freeze out battle
whatever then no sexual touching just taking turns feeding each other on pint of ice cream with the spoons
(male female dynamic- latin thing i dont know)
she kept saying
"I cant believe Im doing this" and I would kiss her everytime she said that and she want it more I stop and act like the typical hard to get girl would freeze out with eating ice cream and telling her ozzie RSD line
"there is no sex tonight Im tired "
she would say I never said anything about sex, I dont do that ..
then at one point it way hot I had her on top of me kissing
Locking in on the bed
I got that from saffron LR in las vegas Saffrom got her on top of him for the photo.
Saffron fucking sex god pua
I couldnt touch her then I go for the neck and did saffromns hair pull routine and I went for the tits and she stop I stop too and agree
back and forth
went as far as licking tits a pierced one and she wouldnt let me touch her down there and she had her clothes on but
she was sweaty BT sexual tension
I took off my pants tried EL Topo Kung fu penis from what
I was taught by doc holiday waay back
(I had an idea but never tried it since I had read the hype and im just playing SOLID and experimented with it )
and she tottally disarmed KFP
and said "You do that to yourself, jerk yourself off "
she did a fucking takeaway
and If I insisted I knew it was needy and it was going to be over.
I stopped and said you are right,
I went AFC on purpose to fuck with her head
first I got a yes ladder
we connected deep and fast
Its rare that I get to enjoy feeling comnfortable like ive known them
while I did badboy's kiss close but without the kiss
which made it solid that we were having a moment.
then
pulled a bomb out which shows that I dont want sex
"lets take thing slow and if we like each other later on then maybe we will get together some other time"
this instilled fear of loss
I got up and pulled my pants. she said "what are you doing"
but right before I had my hands grabbing her ass and i knew she was arroused. and she said
"no dont stop!"
Ohh shit!
I knew I had something here I never ever imagine would happen
since I did deep confort established and assumed rapport
we kissed again and kept escalating on the tits and I stopped
she opened up and said she's been hurt and could fuck other people etc etc .I went into nonjudgmental frame but not sexual explicit. I did kind of on the phone with her but ran it again realting to what she said.
and we were talking about tats and showed me her tat of S&M and that she like to be submissive slaped and tied up...
WOW!
I kissed her after that and told her that I think thats was cool and Im not going to judge her for it,,,and that it turned me on to pleasure her .
after that we fucked HARDCORE
( half viagra and a red bull)she says she came 3 times
and left her at train station to brokylnn at 3am...
the problem is I didnt define the relationship cause I was in soo deep and she told me she wanted a BF. I said that lets see where this goes...
she was on top of me during the convo I was locked in the bed .lol.
I met her 2 days ago breifly and talked on the phone ran deep comfort but very funny and I ended the convo I saw her up 8:45 and 10 were havng this convo.
i used "are you just saying that to make me feel good or are you being yourself"
"stop being cool"
thouse work nice when you compliment for her qualifying herself...it is better than me too
closed her and the ice cream melted....
I told her I wanted to come on her ass
I did do some freeaky stuff and pulled her hair and slaped her ass
It was good letting myself go like that cause I remeber last time i slapped a girls ass like that she got upset and Im a big guy...
i used less routines and more coonection and leading frame..
next day I sent her:
I hope you are having a good morning, Im sore thanks to you ;)
her any regrets
none at all loved it
was i good
yes you were amazing I wasnt that good
on the debrief she said she knew we were going to have sex when we were in the cab to buy ice cream and she knew she liked me after we met in the cab and kiss.
-sandros
next time I will use the door pattern
so Im write this up cause there are alot of stuff I implemented here that I read heard and been suggested in the past
Pardon my grammar skills.
I closed on thursday night on my date... :)
I talked with Entropy on the phone and as per my game kind of improving through the phases and moving forward and all the good stuff.
the revelation was seeing my roomie bring a girl over have her sit there and make her giggling and laughing and then pull her in his room to fuck and me beng part of the act I help in saying i want to watch tv and He pulled.
this guy is a natural doesnt over think things but we realte alot but he doesnt take women thing seriosuly as to a point of doing PUA community stuff.
but he pulls and has a strong frame
I noticed his interaction skills are awesome cause he works wiht kids he plays with them and he calls it the "art of distraction"
to say things funny or whatever and throw things in between while moving forward.
I guess plausible denialbilty and not talking about things explicitly.
he has patience with the women he interacts...
after the next day I had the LR I was up and we worked together in poperating room and I felt awesome and yet he still had some hot russian woman kiss his arms and he show subtle yet slick suaveness then later had another not so cute girl text him dirty things when he just told her in fornt of me that he was seeing a couple of girls and I saw him fuck her and he was intorducing me to her
but i noticed the act of handing over a woman makes her validate herself more work for you..she was crazy texting her..asdide of the other girls he is seeing.
anyways
how he closed infront of me
and me slow the process and as per my last post making her want it more
Is like dont overgame
or dont fuck it up by saying somethign stupid or relying on a line when its not the right timing to use it
I guess the word is "understanding"
if you act like you understand them and non needy and dont try to get with them or meet up before getting them invested then he will take the initiative when she is laughing or he spikes her BT.
HE DOESNT NEXT
he builds more comfort until he gets what he wants
he doesnt punish them he freezes out and texts them a day later and acts non needy
he usually gets texted from them and he responds to them ASAP
ALWAYS
If you dont he says you are cuttign yourself off
you make intiaive and forget all that other shit
if she says something then you tell yourslef I will work on that no worry maybe she is having a hard time and shit and if I insist it will piss her off
LR HB cuddle bunny
met up with her she gave me LMR right before the the date freakin out
and i complied to her not being an asshole but being compassionate.
this is something the community is missing when you connect with someone
I used compassion to make her feel better and I used is as fear of loss when she triggered personal; questions about me asking me for last name where i work etc etc
I felt my self esteem and felt used when I gave that to her..it isnt a big deal but I felt she took something from me, therefore I felt that feels to a woman when they get buyers remorse...its calibrating the ionteraction being nice and compassionate and yet funny and edgy
I also noticed when he goes emotional he stops there and doesnt physically escalate which causes her or even me cause Im modeling him.. to escalate physically..
he holds back and smiles.
BAck to the date
instantly was confusing me where she was and I called her and she didnt pick up i used as a verbal distraction to say somnething to tease her
I didnt follow community advice just went with what I was modeling my friend and advice in the past from saffron, entropy and
MPUA A from miami into effect.
ozzie fromn rsd has some good stuff but if you havent close it will comnfuse you but some lines worked and I wasnt thinking about sex but I knew it was going to happen
I didnt need it but it was going to happen
the zen like thinking in closing is that.
assume rapport and showed I had balls to do that right off
not alot of kino.
She kissed me kind of right off and I stopped and said too soon.
I take it way and stop. her BT actual BT she was like its hot here.lol.
I would talk and make her laugh and confuse her (I was kind of nervous)
we took a cab to the wine bar
i kissed her there and did takeaway sinn* thats all you get
she kept doing sedxual advances to test me i guess and I said i need more comfort and trust sinn*
took her to wine bar lead and I thought that zen thinking.
I didnt kiss her there.
(different from what I was doing ) the intereaction was subtle sexually but it was like she initate it and I would just look at her and smile.( another thing we talked about Id overescalate or run the train)
the interaction at the wine bar was just like improv and the excersize i learned from Entropy at the bootcamp and his connection game and being intersting without boring her.
I ran RSD verbal attraction: shifting sands and No! in the middle of convo to break her state and get her to work more for my appraoval and my favorite and risky "you are my new bunny ..yeah my new cuddle bunny...Wait Its too fast .. or
I take that back" this calibrates her feeling good and when you compliment and its too much then you pull back by doing this instead of just releasing with dorkk or brat cause its too repetitive...breathrough comfort what i read kind of but it was more sexual frames and Entropys deep comfort with tease.
Emotional investment!
I paid for the drink and one mini burger slicers we shared or whatever
(against community belief not to eat but running entropys model of game a bite wasnt going to hurt and itwas a snack and transition to dessert and I showed sharing food is awesome important , creating a bubble)
I made her cut the 3rd in half to share it ..(male to female dynamic)
I told her she had to pay for dessert
she said OK
we were walking but I didnt want to kill momentum so I had initally timebridged in the beginning about apt and the view of other buildings its nice to watch.
and my late night eating habit of ice cream.
I FELT THIS WAS CRUCIAL CAUSE IT WAS CONGRUENT WITH WHO I WAS
and IT WAS NON SEXUAL
we took a cab to the corner store and she was were we are going
i said "get ice cream you promised wait dont tell me you are a liar cause if you are then Its OVER!" semi serious way but putting social pressure
she paid for the ice cream
GOT HER INVESTED THEREFORE
also its her job not to feel slutty and play hard to get when you escalate just dont aggressively do it its push pull and attraction again to build sexual tension.
"I lets eat this here show you wher I live and I will walk you to you train station cause I have to get up early tomorrow."
and she said "NO I dont do that" and I said
"Im asking you to share icecream and you are out the door"
used semi social pressure to get her ASD from kicking in and laugh at what she said..
"dont get any ideas ok " cocky funny to reduce the ASD In revesing the roles
we got up there no huggin no kissing
act cool like friends
and the "roomie" was watching laker game so ...he used that excuse the other day so he could pull his girl in his room...
so I said my friend is watching the game and I dont want you to bother him
(LEADERSHIP in a jokingly way)
want to show you the view I was talking to you about when we spoke on the phone ..she got in my room and I sat on the bed and I told her to take of her shoes and she gave me objections of she os sweaty and I said tmy bed is sacred take them off ( this objection like cultures or whatever, i made it up)asper lovedrops theory of women tkes her shoes off she can fuck you
had her on the bed turned off the lights to see the view (doublebind intention)kissed her and she stopped.
lights came on Freeze out battle
whatever then no sexual touching just taking turns feeding each other on pint of ice cream with the spoons
(male female dynamic- latin thing i dont know)
she kept saying
"I cant believe Im doing this" and I would kiss her everytime she said that and she want it more I stop and act like the typical hard to get girl would freeze out with eating ice cream and telling her ozzie RSD line
"there is no sex tonight Im tired "
she would say I never said anything about sex, I dont do that ..
then at one point it way hot I had her on top of me kissing
Locking in on the bed
I got that from saffron LR in las vegas Saffrom got her on top of him for the photo.
Saffron fucking sex god pua
I couldnt touch her then I go for the neck and did saffromns hair pull routine and I went for the tits and she stop I stop too and agree
back and forth
went as far as licking tits a pierced one and she wouldnt let me touch her down there and she had her clothes on but
she was sweaty BT sexual tension
I took off my pants tried EL Topo Kung fu penis from what
I was taught by doc holiday waay back
(I had an idea but never tried it since I had read the hype and im just playing SOLID and experimented with it )
and she tottally disarmed KFP
and said "You do that to yourself, jerk yourself off "
she did a fucking takeaway
and If I insisted I knew it was needy and it was going to be over.
I stopped and said you are right,
I went AFC on purpose to fuck with her head
first I got a yes ladder
we connected deep and fast
Its rare that I get to enjoy feeling comnfortable like ive known them
while I did badboy's kiss close but without the kiss
which made it solid that we were having a moment.
then
pulled a bomb out which shows that I dont want sex
"lets take thing slow and if we like each other later on then maybe we will get together some other time"
this instilled fear of loss
I got up and pulled my pants. she said "what are you doing"
but right before I had my hands grabbing her ass and i knew she was arroused. and she said
"no dont stop!"
Ohh shit!
I knew I had something here I never ever imagine would happen
since I did deep confort established and assumed rapport
we kissed again and kept escalating on the tits and I stopped
she opened up and said she's been hurt and could fuck other people etc etc .I went into nonjudgmental frame but not sexual explicit. I did kind of on the phone with her but ran it again realting to what she said.
and we were talking about tats and showed me her tat of S&M and that she like to be submissive slaped and tied up...
WOW!
I kissed her after that and told her that I think thats was cool and Im not going to judge her for it,,,and that it turned me on to pleasure her .
after that we fucked HARDCORE
( half viagra and a red bull)she says she came 3 times
and left her at train station to brokylnn at 3am...
the problem is I didnt define the relationship cause I was in soo deep and she told me she wanted a BF. I said that lets see where this goes...
she was on top of me during the convo I was locked in the bed .lol.
I met her 2 days ago breifly and talked on the phone ran deep comfort but very funny and I ended the convo I saw her up 8:45 and 10 were havng this convo.
i used "are you just saying that to make me feel good or are you being yourself"
"stop being cool"
thouse work nice when you compliment for her qualifying herself...it is better than me too
closed her and the ice cream melted....
I told her I wanted to come on her ass
I did do some freeaky stuff and pulled her hair and slaped her ass
It was good letting myself go like that cause I remeber last time i slapped a girls ass like that she got upset and Im a big guy...
i used less routines and more coonection and leading frame..
next day I sent her:
I hope you are having a good morning, Im sore thanks to you ;)
her any regrets
none at all loved it
was i good
yes you were amazing I wasnt that good
on the debrief she said she knew we were going to have sex when we were in the cab to buy ice cream and she knew she liked me after we met in the cab and kiss.
-sandros
next time I will use the door pattern
Thursday, June 4, 2009
FR: HB cuddle bunny
Im posting this cause Im using entropys deep comfort...
Its my new style of game.
saffrom like I said is AWESOME
high attraction and escalates fast... I usually do that in night game but then have no control over it when it comes to closing I come on too strong...
like my friend Beau says you have to pull back.
that being said i ran online and did 2 messages and I noticed its about momentum...
like in what I read somewhere i think braddocks text game everything you do should be geared towards close nothing vague everything...
opner you are cute dork
response dork who are you calling dork?!
You are soo feisty...You should stop that cause.. Im starting to like it ; )
Im S
I live in the in the city
I knew you wher going to b a truoblemaker sweetie ; )
you are probably from Boston ?!?!
-S
I'm so not a troublemaker.... I'm just not taking any crap from the opposite sex any longer
As far as being from Boston... UH... no Dear, I'm from Brooklyn and my name is Krista. Nice to meet you ... and, what's with the name "rockstar dentist"???
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Thank you dear ...
say it aint so....
Krista... thats beautiful name .
YES! rghjkt !!!
AS a kid I always wanted to be artistic and creative with something that would involve helping people...
BooM! thats me...
I have an intuition about you..its like you can be aggressive yet so sweet like honey...
I bet you love to cuddle!
do you?
-S
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Sweet like honey, huh? Yes, I can be and often am...until I have to act otherwise
Hmmm...well, I will give you the creative part....as for helping people... are you a REAL dentist??
Oops... yes, I like to cuddle
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I told her abou tBS messages and she text me...
making her text you put the ball in her court and convinces her that you are vunerable and real...
I use objections that I hope you arent creepy weirdo and stalker
reverse frame..
samplpe :
sdfghjk ...this sounds so fkin awesome ..stop being cool OK! ....
Im starting to like you
what I love most in the whole world is a woman that knows how to take care of her man , loves to cuddle (!)and kiss...
and ice cream : )
We are both responsible adults so Im going to be straight forward and honest with you...
All of this leads me to believe we should have a drink or meet
up. which i normally only say after like weeks or so of BS emails.
I do kind of feel vunerable cause you might reject me but i guess its a risk im going to take if you are this awesomely cool girl..cause i want to get to know you.
I hope you are the girl you say you are and not some creepy weirdo stalker chick.lol
so shoot me a text later and lets see where it goes ok.
----
so I ran 2 meassages and she resisted and understood her and I noticed aotherthign when they resist you have to understand and sexual frame credit Sinn.
she text me and I was at housotn at a sopcial; agthering and I got warned up by talking and interacting then at night to talk on the phone she aske for me to call her she opened opend up and i ran entropys chemistry game..I use the "we are past the BS " and i sie 2 cold reads and ran conversation and deep relationship past and who I am and objections with I dont usually do this... I can tbelieve Im telling you this and the thing is that she was turned on by it .. I wanted to meet up but I had to contain myslef. plus
today I had her text me alot which I think NOT good..but she was concerned who she was going to meet safety reasons which she asked me for me last name and wher I work and other stuff..when she did that i felt used
I felt low self esteem like what a woman must feel when i man just wants her and says thank you..that sense of being used...
but I fought that my inner game never got me laid and used it to work towards a goal...its weird but its like a self defense mechaniasm...
and I used it to reverse the frame and make her work for it and then I was going to flake on her and she said NO! that she wants to meet with me
the i ask vthat if she is a good kisser which was a risk of qualification which is already bordeline cause she responde di never gotten a compliant
after that it just left it
the new rule of closing
MAKE HER WANT IT MORE !
reverse the frame what a woman does to a guy that wants it more she resists and then gives in...
thats my new experiment as per saffron and sinn advice of making her want it more.
Entropy mentioned that I have to sexual y arouse her and always pull back.
Its like attraction all over again in a way...
OK lets see how it goes...
you lead, leading is easy but guys close too fast rush into horny frat boy which has just destroyed me...
So when you have her investing and texting and make her miss you ...
you run solid game
and I arranged for the meet up .
meet at the city then subway to here..wine bar and plausible denaibilty to the apt then close ....
I figure this time I will not overescalate like i did jumping on top of her like the others
I made out with the others like 4 times. i will just do it once and touch and takeaway
..but make her do it.
Im tell her view to the apt and Im tired no sex tonight and i want to cuddle since the theme will be to cuddle and that way she will escalate...
I will run
Jugglers GF test
cosmos routine
break rapport with good girl face bad girl manerisms
heart melters
SOMEONE CHEER ME ON!
I smell LR
PS: I had attorneyfl text em she has a cavity south of the border that need to be checked...too bad she lives far but all this sexual texts Im getting from them is awesome but I must resist being the frat horny guy....
Its my new style of game.
saffrom like I said is AWESOME
high attraction and escalates fast... I usually do that in night game but then have no control over it when it comes to closing I come on too strong...
like my friend Beau says you have to pull back.
that being said i ran online and did 2 messages and I noticed its about momentum...
like in what I read somewhere i think braddocks text game everything you do should be geared towards close nothing vague everything...
opner you are cute dork
response dork who are you calling dork?!
You are soo feisty...You should stop that cause.. Im starting to like it ; )
Im S
I live in the in the city
I knew you wher going to b a truoblemaker sweetie ; )
you are probably from Boston ?!?!
-S
I'm so not a troublemaker.... I'm just not taking any crap from the opposite sex any longer
As far as being from Boston... UH... no Dear, I'm from Brooklyn and my name is Krista. Nice to meet you ... and, what's with the name "rockstar dentist"???
------------------------------------------------------------
Thank you dear ...
say it aint so....
Krista... thats beautiful name .
YES! rghjkt !!!
AS a kid I always wanted to be artistic and creative with something that would involve helping people...
BooM! thats me...
I have an intuition about you..its like you can be aggressive yet so sweet like honey...
I bet you love to cuddle!
do you?
-S
--------------
Sweet like honey, huh? Yes, I can be and often am...until I have to act otherwise
Hmmm...well, I will give you the creative part....as for helping people... are you a REAL dentist??
Oops... yes, I like to cuddle
------
I told her abou tBS messages and she text me...
making her text you put the ball in her court and convinces her that you are vunerable and real...
I use objections that I hope you arent creepy weirdo and stalker
reverse frame..
samplpe :
sdfghjk ...this sounds so fkin awesome ..stop being cool OK! ....
Im starting to like you
what I love most in the whole world is a woman that knows how to take care of her man , loves to cuddle (!)and kiss...
and ice cream : )
We are both responsible adults so Im going to be straight forward and honest with you...
All of this leads me to believe we should have a drink or meet
up. which i normally only say after like weeks or so of BS emails.
I do kind of feel vunerable cause you might reject me but i guess its a risk im going to take if you are this awesomely cool girl..cause i want to get to know you.
I hope you are the girl you say you are and not some creepy weirdo stalker chick.lol
so shoot me a text later and lets see where it goes ok.
----
so I ran 2 meassages and she resisted and understood her and I noticed aotherthign when they resist you have to understand and sexual frame credit Sinn.
she text me and I was at housotn at a sopcial; agthering and I got warned up by talking and interacting then at night to talk on the phone she aske for me to call her she opened opend up and i ran entropys chemistry game..I use the "we are past the BS " and i sie 2 cold reads and ran conversation and deep relationship past and who I am and objections with I dont usually do this... I can tbelieve Im telling you this and the thing is that she was turned on by it .. I wanted to meet up but I had to contain myslef. plus
today I had her text me alot which I think NOT good..but she was concerned who she was going to meet safety reasons which she asked me for me last name and wher I work and other stuff..when she did that i felt used
I felt low self esteem like what a woman must feel when i man just wants her and says thank you..that sense of being used...
but I fought that my inner game never got me laid and used it to work towards a goal...its weird but its like a self defense mechaniasm...
and I used it to reverse the frame and make her work for it and then I was going to flake on her and she said NO! that she wants to meet with me
the i ask vthat if she is a good kisser which was a risk of qualification which is already bordeline cause she responde di never gotten a compliant
after that it just left it
the new rule of closing
MAKE HER WANT IT MORE !
reverse the frame what a woman does to a guy that wants it more she resists and then gives in...
thats my new experiment as per saffron and sinn advice of making her want it more.
Entropy mentioned that I have to sexual y arouse her and always pull back.
Its like attraction all over again in a way...
OK lets see how it goes...
you lead, leading is easy but guys close too fast rush into horny frat boy which has just destroyed me...
So when you have her investing and texting and make her miss you ...
you run solid game
and I arranged for the meet up .
meet at the city then subway to here..wine bar and plausible denaibilty to the apt then close ....
I figure this time I will not overescalate like i did jumping on top of her like the others
I made out with the others like 4 times. i will just do it once and touch and takeaway
..but make her do it.
Im tell her view to the apt and Im tired no sex tonight and i want to cuddle since the theme will be to cuddle and that way she will escalate...
I will run
Jugglers GF test
cosmos routine
break rapport with good girl face bad girl manerisms
heart melters
SOMEONE CHEER ME ON!
I smell LR
PS: I had attorneyfl text em she has a cavity south of the border that need to be checked...too bad she lives far but all this sexual texts Im getting from them is awesome but I must resist being the frat horny guy....
Tuesday, June 2, 2009
text interactions with HBmel LI
This is a part of how I had
to work to get a girl and went sexual and last part she was talking about jerking me off and pttuing my cock in her mouthand then in her pussy
5/28/2009 9:28am
Hey its HBmelLI
me: hey whats up mel
her: NM u
me: send me a pic of you
her :when I get back home
her :Im just put woth my daughter
her I just sent you 2 pics for you
her : thank you You are very cute by the way
her : work
her :Ru busy this weeekend
her :AT an office
her :OK
her :Me2
her :UGh boring long day what are you doing
her :what are you cooking
Her :Im not picky
her :Liquor
her malibu day breeze scre driver
her:nice I tried calling you
we had basic chit chat convo and time bridge d probable her meeting up saturday
after convo
her : you sound sexy
her : hell yeah
her Aw you are welcome sweet dreams
next day
her:Good morning
911am her ; Thank you hope you have a good day and hope talk soon.
4:45pm her: hows your day
8;30pm her : hey sexy
8:43 pm her just got off work
8:47pm her : I got to se how much money I have first
her LOL
her I dont work tomorrow its the weekend
Ok where
dont know how to get there
I will get lost in the subway by myself
Yea let me know 2morrow
OK U are going to bed now?
can i call you in a few
We spoke for a while.... basic comfort and was going to do phone sex but she was with daughter
next day was the day for the date....
I was resisting to call her but my friend said
NO ! YOU MAKE THE INITATIVE TEXT HER
so I sent a text to see if we were still on and she text back:
her : I cant hang tonight got a family emergency im in NJ
her: I will text you when i get home
her :Hey sexy omg Im freaked out
her: I just saw a scary movie
her: drag me to hel
her : Yeah waht are you up to are you in the city
her: Just asking I would of came out if u were closer
me: too bad..I would have loved to seen you
her: Me 2
SUNDAY
her : Its OK sory I didnt mean to call that late
her:Aw yeah im just shoping my mom in ac and dad wokring all day so I wasnt sitn home
her:Boring
her:I got a new bathig suit to wear
her: black with pink flower
her: soon
me: you are such a tease
her: no
me: ewhat are you wearing now
her:capris and tank top going in the shower soon...
She calls and says that she is traveling soon for next two weekends and set up for probable date on weekday.this was on sunday.
tuesday I text: Im still not sure about you I have to give you a cool girl test or something
her :Yes
I go into Jugglers GF test
she responds warm bath
strawberries and whip cream
kisses on the neck
she texts:
LOL sorry I havent texted you I was busy
me: I have to go to work.why you always make it hard
her:sorry
me: Its all hard now , Im wondering what you would do with it
her: I would start jerkin you iff then put it in my mouth and start sucking it then put it in my pussy
me: I woould bend you over on the table right there and get down to businees
her: I Nice I would love that
me:send me a pic of your pussy
her: Later when I get home
me:K
didnt here from her so text her later to calibrate non sexual
her: food shoping
her: Nah Im feeling sick my ear is in really bad pain
her:LOL ok
I fell asleep and didnt call her but sent her a text...
my friend said to stay chill and back off since she is with a daughter and has ear pain she will get annoyed
wednesday : hows that ear
her : it hurts
me: did you go to the doctor
her: dont have insurance
me: isnt there a free clinic
her: Im look it up
me: is there anything i can do
her: no not now thank you
My friend again says if she is sick and I send a message about a pic then i get her in a bad mood their emnotions are strong they know they are smart.
So this one is on hold I wondering how to post the pics she sent me...
I sent her a text that i was coming to her neck of the woods and I wonde hwta it would be like
she said she wont be there
I said OK
she sent back with Im going away for weekend
I said : Have fun,I'll talk to you later
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according to other guys this set is blown
the best thing is too build prizing and pull back and make her come to me.
after she flaked on me I showed lower value and I lost value in her eyes
text is text and words are words and actions speak louder than words
to work to get a girl and went sexual and last part she was talking about jerking me off and pttuing my cock in her mouthand then in her pussy
5/28/2009 9:28am
Hey its HBmelLI
me: hey whats up mel
her: NM u
me: send me a pic of you
her :when I get back home
her :Im just put woth my daughter
her I just sent you 2 pics for you
her : thank you You are very cute by the way
her : work
her :Ru busy this weeekend
her :AT an office
her :OK
her :Me2
her :UGh boring long day what are you doing
her :what are you cooking
Her :Im not picky
her :Liquor
her malibu day breeze scre driver
her:nice I tried calling you
we had basic chit chat convo and time bridge d probable her meeting up saturday
after convo
her : you sound sexy
her : hell yeah
her Aw you are welcome sweet dreams
next day
her:Good morning
911am her ; Thank you hope you have a good day and hope talk soon.
4:45pm her: hows your day
8;30pm her : hey sexy
8:43 pm her just got off work
8:47pm her : I got to se how much money I have first
her LOL
her I dont work tomorrow its the weekend
Ok where
dont know how to get there
I will get lost in the subway by myself
Yea let me know 2morrow
OK U are going to bed now?
can i call you in a few
We spoke for a while.... basic comfort and was going to do phone sex but she was with daughter
next day was the day for the date....
I was resisting to call her but my friend said
NO ! YOU MAKE THE INITATIVE TEXT HER
so I sent a text to see if we were still on and she text back:
her : I cant hang tonight got a family emergency im in NJ
her: I will text you when i get home
her :Hey sexy omg Im freaked out
her: I just saw a scary movie
her: drag me to hel
her : Yeah waht are you up to are you in the city
her: Just asking I would of came out if u were closer
me: too bad..I would have loved to seen you
her: Me 2
SUNDAY
her : Its OK sory I didnt mean to call that late
her:Aw yeah im just shoping my mom in ac and dad wokring all day so I wasnt sitn home
her:Boring
her:I got a new bathig suit to wear
her: black with pink flower
her: soon
me: you are such a tease
her: no
me: ewhat are you wearing now
her:capris and tank top going in the shower soon...
She calls and says that she is traveling soon for next two weekends and set up for probable date on weekday.this was on sunday.
tuesday I text: Im still not sure about you I have to give you a cool girl test or something
her :Yes
I go into Jugglers GF test
she responds warm bath
strawberries and whip cream
kisses on the neck
she texts:
LOL sorry I havent texted you I was busy
me: I have to go to work.why you always make it hard
her:sorry
me: Its all hard now , Im wondering what you would do with it
her: I would start jerkin you iff then put it in my mouth and start sucking it then put it in my pussy
me: I woould bend you over on the table right there and get down to businees
her: I Nice I would love that
me:send me a pic of your pussy
her: Later when I get home
me:K
didnt here from her so text her later to calibrate non sexual
her: food shoping
her: Nah Im feeling sick my ear is in really bad pain
her:LOL ok
I fell asleep and didnt call her but sent her a text...
my friend said to stay chill and back off since she is with a daughter and has ear pain she will get annoyed
wednesday : hows that ear
her : it hurts
me: did you go to the doctor
her: dont have insurance
me: isnt there a free clinic
her: Im look it up
me: is there anything i can do
her: no not now thank you
My friend again says if she is sick and I send a message about a pic then i get her in a bad mood their emnotions are strong they know they are smart.
So this one is on hold I wondering how to post the pics she sent me...
I sent her a text that i was coming to her neck of the woods and I wonde hwta it would be like
she said she wont be there
I said OK
she sent back with Im going away for weekend
I said : Have fun,I'll talk to you later
----------------------------------------------
according to other guys this set is blown
the best thing is too build prizing and pull back and make her come to me.
after she flaked on me I showed lower value and I lost value in her eyes
text is text and words are words and actions speak louder than words
Monday, June 1, 2009
online game quickie
My profile got deleted and thisi si what I use; Its from Jeffy RSD:
I'm very romantic and genuine yet a total a****** .
I have a positive outlook on life
Love tender moments and little cats.
I want to meet people who laugh at my jokes and
High self-esteem types who don't take things too seriously.
------------------------------------------
breaking rapport spiking emotions opener:
I like your pic but too bad its photoshopped
I wonder whats behind the pretty face? or I cant tell if you are sexy
her :what photoshop? I cropped the picture cause it was too big. But thats it. Thats what my big irish face looks like up close. Scary huh???
------
me: you are soo feisty Im starting to like it stop being cool You are soo feisty...You should stop that cause.. Im starting to like it ; )
Im Sandro
I live in the in the city
I knew you wher going to b a truoblemaker sweetie ; )
you are probably from Boston ?!?!
------------
HER : should be from Boston. Part of the Irish Mob.
But nope. Im was born and raised in upstate NY...now im chillin in Long Island. Not an Irish friendly zone. lol
ME:Cool what you wna to be when you were seven and dont say irish mob princess
---------
her: All jokes aside i wanted to be a nurse. And looky-looky im a nurse. Born to save lives. Just with the added twist of humor!
But now i would love to appear on the show "Cops" Criminals are sooo dumb. I wanna show them whats up!
---
ME:
Thats pretty RAD!
I wanted to be very detailed and artistic in what I did on my soft side I wanted to help people feel good about themselves and look pretty... I became a dentist with a BADASS personality ... thats whats up. Hi five!
You are soo out there we are soo criminal minded I can smell a masterplan already ; )
We probably wouldn't get along... we're too similar.
I wouldn't take your sh!t, you wouldn't take my sh!t, and we'd just fight all the time,
then have, like, freaky make-up sex.
I'm not sure I'm ready for a volatile relationship like that now.
Then again, maybe I am. I'm so confused!
----------------
her:
HAHA. I was born a rebel without a cause. Im still trying to find the cause...cause nursing isnt it. LOL. Wanna take my braces off? God im gonna take pliers to these damn things.
I'm very romantic and genuine yet a total a****** .
I have a positive outlook on life
Love tender moments and little cats.
I want to meet people who laugh at my jokes and
High self-esteem types who don't take things too seriously.
------------------------------------------
breaking rapport spiking emotions opener:
I like your pic but too bad its photoshopped
I wonder whats behind the pretty face? or I cant tell if you are sexy
her :what photoshop? I cropped the picture cause it was too big. But thats it. Thats what my big irish face looks like up close. Scary huh???
------
me: you are soo feisty Im starting to like it stop being cool You are soo feisty...You should stop that cause.. Im starting to like it ; )
Im Sandro
I live in the in the city
I knew you wher going to b a truoblemaker sweetie ; )
you are probably from Boston ?!?!
------------
HER : should be from Boston. Part of the Irish Mob.
But nope. Im was born and raised in upstate NY...now im chillin in Long Island. Not an Irish friendly zone. lol
ME:Cool what you wna to be when you were seven and dont say irish mob princess
---------
her: All jokes aside i wanted to be a nurse. And looky-looky im a nurse. Born to save lives. Just with the added twist of humor!
But now i would love to appear on the show "Cops" Criminals are sooo dumb. I wanna show them whats up!
---
ME:
Thats pretty RAD!
I wanted to be very detailed and artistic in what I did on my soft side I wanted to help people feel good about themselves and look pretty... I became a dentist with a BADASS personality ... thats whats up. Hi five!
You are soo out there we are soo criminal minded I can smell a masterplan already ; )
We probably wouldn't get along... we're too similar.
I wouldn't take your sh!t, you wouldn't take my sh!t, and we'd just fight all the time,
then have, like, freaky make-up sex.
I'm not sure I'm ready for a volatile relationship like that now.
Then again, maybe I am. I'm so confused!
----------------
her:
HAHA. I was born a rebel without a cause. Im still trying to find the cause...cause nursing isnt it. LOL. Wanna take my braces off? God im gonna take pliers to these damn things.
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