Monday, February 28, 2011

stuff I want for me

I have an addiction and need to control it

this month is telling my body talking it like if i was a primal human, I encourage it to burn fat to survive so that the beast doesnt cathc us and to survive and defeat, so its preparing the body and body understands that when you talk to it that way cause the body doesnt understand stress so it needs translation to get to the hardwiring that being said its also works for talking to the promal side of the woman, reptilian brain swinggcatt talks about and what jorge talks about how the body you have to climb and excersize as if you are a caveman.

so cali pimps stuff Im buying it to myself

and I rethinking the phone consult as I need to practice,
Im going to be more proactive at things this month
work out
not talk to advisors anymore
push myself more
balance my life with studying , excsrsize ,diet and being proactive this year.

old topo post on sexual ladder for redstack

So this last week has been crazy.
I really don't know where to start...I just spent the last 4 nights in a row with
the On The Mat guys (onthemat.com) living the dream (so to speak).
It was UFC 94 with Algasim, Soco, Jtime, and the OTM guys and then complete chaos!

The big problem that I see with community guys, non-community guys, naturals is they don't go sexual.
theREDstack solves that.
I can't stress it enough,

IF YOU DON'T GET SEXUAL RIGHT AWAY, YOU'RE WASTING TIME!

I can't tell you how many times I see guys out there with a hot girl next to them and they are afraid to talk to them.
Then I see PUAs out there talking to a hot ass chick and walking away with just some stupid attraction tricks and maybe some rapport.

Let's get it straight guys...
Women like sex...just as much as us, they just see it different.
theREDstack and the Mentor Program will get you there.

Think of going sexual as touching right from the start. If you don't do it, then the ANXIETY of being Sexual builds, you'll never know how to do it!

Jtime and Algasim pretty much are familiar with me doing this and have evolved their own theories on it too. So this weekend we actually recorded a lot of audio about all this stuff.
On Sat we did a Skype interview with FreeSpirit in England that explains some of this that will be released here in the next month.


Here is something that Algasm and I were talking about on the call...we were talking about running sexual ladders.
We came up with a bunch that would run up sexuality right from the start.
Now this is pretty much what theREDstackdoes...but with the stack there is about 60 plus pages of CUSTOM MATERIAL!


But here is a sample of one of those sexual ladders that I wanted to share with you!

Opener-
Hey guys, what is something that you think is different about men and women?

(they think or try an answer)

Ok so here is the thing...
(bait with a qualifier you can frame off of)
Wait you guys aren't the types of girls that might freak-out about stuff right away right?
(wait for them to comply, then qualify them into not being judgmental)
Ok, first let me ask.... (target) you, how old are you?
(they answer)
Oh, I can't ask you, you won't get it.
(they will push back at this, so now make them qualify themselves in the way that you want them to be...in this case sexual)
So alright have you actually had a long term relationship?
(she will probably say "yes")
Ok, but you're totally the girl that can really keep a guy at first, like you're really good in bed and all that stuff, but it always dies off, really quickly...
(this is a cold read, plus every woman is afraid that she can't maintain attraction with a guy. So wait for her reply and continue on)
So that right there is the difference between men and women...
Come here for a second...
(no need to isolate, majorly, just make it so you are only talking to her)
Ok so I got to know...how old were you when you lost your virginity?
(most girls say 14-15, just a tip for some cold reads later, but let her answer)
Ok so you know what, I can tell you haven't had good sex yet.
(if she says she has then recover by saying, "But it took a long time for you to start having it")
Here is the thing though, most guys, just don't know how to be totally crazy with you.
Most guys don't know how to treat you like a woman.

If you are interested in theREDstack, SHOOT ME an EMAIL and I would love to talk with you about it. It is literally the best thing out there and NOBODY else out there can do!

So pretty much there is a lot of theory that I can put into that, but for the most part, work that something like that, and see how easily women open up to it.


A lot of Audio and Video on the Way! Keep your eyes peeled on my BLOG!

Talk to you soon...
I there will be more!

FR :Oscars party w Zey I get LMR

Last night I went out with another cuban latina woman she showed alot of interst wanting to be with me,she is 37 has 2 kids,she wanted to be with me to watch "Oscars" and Cuddle.

I pace and lead her and we set up a date I picked her up from a parking lot to go to our private "oscar night"party. we ended up in a miami beach hotel room.Palmer house very awesome.

she got LMR upfront but used role playing and adventure fantasy as we are having a our Celebrity Oscars party.

we were watching TV and sametime build comfort , we started making out intensely, she started controling her horniness everytime I escalated.
at times shed stand up and go get water.at comercial breaks wed make out heavly and cuddle , Id touch her body she would pull back.
I at times escalate and pull back and she would try to please me, it was an LMR battle.back and forth.
she'd use disqualifers like :"Im too old for you" "dont think cause Im older we will have sex tonight" Id laugh and make out with her.
Id build more comfort and ran NLP routines to elicit her horny and attraction state (cosmo routine and movie star EV sexual pattern)and shed feel that state shed back off and try to change subject.
then it got to a point where I was kissing her and I kiss her neck and hair pull and lick her neck. I felt she was turned on so bad that she stood up and said she neede to go to the bathroom.
she came back and said she need to go home.
I said why soo soon oscars arent even half way (Ive been battling LMR for 1 1/2 hour)
she said "I cant.im older than you and this might get farther than i expected so i have to go."
she then she asked me if i was mad i said no.I acted like it wasnt a big deal and we left the room.
she started asking me if I was mad, I acted like I didnt care and it wasnt a big deal.
As I dropped her off during the drive we were building comfort .
she started to say that she has never been with a younger guy before and she feels uncomfrtable to be in public with me, I said "we can be discrete, whatever goes behind closed doors is between 2 adults and its nobody elses business, right"

She said that I'm smart ,creative and intellectual and rare guy throwing compliments at me I just said "thank you"
she said that alot of girls probably throw themselves at me.
she said " Im not like this on a first date or have sex on first date but wow if you are this romantic on a first date then I can imagine what you end up doing with other girls"

I said "this isnt a date its a private oscars party" ;)

As I got to her car and we kissed again and we went on our own separate ways.

now I feel she is doing PNP like the other latina cuban woman where she isnt showing interst by phone or text and wants me to chase her. and I suck at that and get needy and blow the set.

Im running into a pattern of non closure with these latina women I hope you notice whats wrong here its repeating smae scenario as groundhog day.
or should I next ? Im seeing she is LSE

shelley woman gives great advice on atttraction and fitness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kVQx0st5KE

Saturday, February 26, 2011

stella social enviroment opening- ai - FR

I opened her with eye contact and underlying sexual contact.

then she opened me and we spoke about coffee,then she moved towards kitchen and I went elsewhere to avoid me following her like a puppy dog.

I noticed her eyes her face, the way she fixed herself.
and I think Im lonely alpha male there, my dad was trying to tell her Im a bad boy or my son is stuborn like the kid who you tell him to sit down but stells you Im maybe sitting down but inside Im standing up.

which switched and attraction switch prioir openning.

we are studying for bible stuff.

anywyas, we talked and I would nonverbally look at her eyes inside her eyes like wanting her than she bent over and saw her thonged ass like the ass go up "very nice" and her hands were a bit of turn off , and I touched her belly.

another thing you cant touch american girls in daygame, but with latina girls is more of you have to touch her even flirtaciously abit or making fun of her very under the radar touch but the energy has to be sexual.

I felt that it went ok but it should have gone abit better and now I have a time constraint with 2 more classes, which sucks but I will have to number close next time and set up a meet up half way to go over the material.

Im thinking about talking to my professor about the intrepretation of lovers in the bible, cause Im confused with stuff.cause the main guys in the bible lied to get somewhere and still its confusing,also if lust were bad thing than nobody would be having sex, all pastor preachers would have to be castrated to avoid falling into Sin.
my idea is using that intrepretation and then how to get the woman religious driven to get have sex while making it her normal primal emotions to feel safe about sex than a feeling of guilt and sin.and how God wants people to connect with each other if not then it wouldnt be.
making love wouldnt be so pleasurable. and sex is sin.lol.

I think reframing it like talking to two people,: her woman side and her nerdy logical christian pastor ministerial side.


it seems reframing the text and talk about love and what it is.
and number closing her (RJ number close modification)
with a timebridge to meet up monday somewhere to talk more.

this comes out of the social enviroment into isolation. which makes me from a guy from classes at church to someone I may like ....

she is confused about her sexuality (christina women role and biological needs of women urge to have sex)so I have to see how I escalate her, so I will have to build more comfort run some NLP routines about connection and number close her.

meet up and run game in isolation. either a social excuse of studying review the homework and tasting a coffe she mentioned she takes and distributes to escalating physically.

I may have to come up with material to dominate her logical christian beliefs from her feeling slutty without feeling guilty about sex.

nice thonged ass, nice eyes nice body,

she is half black and half white. and she was dolled up today.
she was feeling attraction and i ran social verbal comfort with nonverbal sexual eye contact and light touching her belly and hands.

Thursday, February 24, 2011

day game today was awful..I didnt appraoch

I saw a gorgeous woman eating ice cream and she was walking like strutting. all dolled up for guys to want her.

she was in front of me and I hesitated to open.

Im rusty and need to review day game stack.
doc holiday was the best at this and awaken.
so i called awaken and he is coming here next week.

Im rusty so I have to warm up by doing.

so far im getting cold reads and statement instaed of questions as qualification

so many hotties at the mall.
wow its a daygame gold mine there all waiting to be explored,
wow

I spoke to kevin about his coaching and he is dating a cuban girl. I explained to him about gloria and he told me that women are latin cultered from their families to build comfort but that sooner or later they give it up.

I called him on it by saying its needy as fuck.

and we both agreed that Miami is harder to game.
we hanged up to see if we hang out and talk or get coaching.

I need an approach coach for day game, its been a long time.

its what I make of it so its up to me to meet more women and game.

didnt hear from darren so I figure he is out of town.

jarret is someone i dont trust.

Sticking points are approaching and opening, review:

-franco's goood girl
-grungery10
-listen to doc holiday
-glenn P audios
-speer day game vids
-day game yad vids
-key chain day game vid
intro to Day game intro

Wednesday, February 23, 2011

update talk with doc strangelove

I had bank teller IOIs at me earlier today and spoke with zey I see that she is emotionally invested now to come forward.

I have thursday and friday late night to close her.sat and sunday are almost impossible.

spoke to my friend how he explained about primal braqin influence on excersize and climbing starimaster.

you tell your mind "I nned to train to lose fat cause Im being chased by animal" my body will direct itself to lose weight,

like rodney said mind controls the body

so you tell the body I have to lose weight for survival by you pushing your threshold the body will adapt that chemicals sent to the brain that you are in danger and therefore need to gain muscle for survival skills.

body is old model from hunting ages not used to present day programming so we need to speak to the body the way it can react to it by eleicint g certain emotions on yourself to make your body lose the fat
"sense of danger and you need to grow muscle to survive, you must!"

so interstgin thoughts with doc strangelove also that he talks about is how lse affects our game and clouds our beliefs.

also how woman are programmed to run typical courtship game and how we should reverse frame and use swinggcatts frame of I m the prize what are you talking about.
also the reptilian brain.
talking by subcommunication not logical brain by being verbal about it.
women talk by subcommunication and if you talk subcommunication its another level of language, secret society official language.
it isnt indirect.


fat is diesel and carbs are fuel. use little carb then use diesel.
always push yourself more threshold to make your body burn more.

more active ou are the more you burn and body burns if you sit and dont care then body think you are safe and store fat.

also Ive talked to tripp,

I got a call from zey and it seemsed cool.we talked breifly.
she figured out logistics.lol.
cool.

anyways I need to keep a regimen of attraction of myself first.to get in state.

strangelove was talking about how to reframe 101s by mirroring and then subcommunicating "who do you think you are? Im higher value than you"

to cut off the frame of her using PNP mechanism.

also I mentioned to him my routines from qualification from

adam and apply it with *time distortion*role plays* example of getting her to qualify herself as if she was a model and was at a beuty pagneant all girls are pretty what make her unique speacial about her that makes her different than any other pretty face?"

also came to mind to write up a patern of kelly ripa frame, cuban bf is brother routine
fucked your wife amog routine.

and claifornia pimp routine.
of getting the girl to talk about herself and saying she is naughty and her putting her hand on my leg.
also calibrating 101s to get her to comply.

reading soft signs

he spoke about pandora box about types of women and you have to appear to be that person aka chameleon game.

also logistics.

also how my girl vicky is long distance relationship not going to work out. and is out of range.

how her helped me to be non needy, thank you Vicky.

this morning I felt a boost and I got AIs and IOIs felt like my old self again

so tripp emailed me this and read it this morning:

All women have that tendency of acting like a 13 yr old at times. But then again, men have that tendency as well. But again, this is why it's absolutely critical that you dig down deep within yourself and find who you are, find your own worth. This is why I beat that issue so much.


The more your secure in your own skin, the less you have to tell yourself how valuable you are . . .


then I listened to Swinggcat's beliefs and badboy's Attraction and Adam Lyons Qualification.

then it came to me that all I have to do is elicit her investing in me by proving herself and she will backwards rationalize as her wanting to work hard and invest in me emotional investment.

wow

yesterday was gary's how to be a player last cd3 great stuff.
and anger got to me last night.

so I had to take action.

first I did that and thought abit selfish about myself being prize loving myself sinceI took care of neediness last night.

so I get in car listened to flavor in the ear remix and Im feeling it sick and email my best friends I get positive responses and my state is up and now Im getting started I then get dressed and put on my shades and I look like clooney in oceans eleven.

then my swagger came the walk Saffron taought us shoulders one, and the whole saturday night spderman walk from rob brinded made me do it

the whole "you will feel lucky to be with me" vibe came to me again.

so I found out im in state

so my whole seduction means comes back.
play from a position of strength...- swinggcat gary brodsky reminds me again in my head.

so now my walk and my talk tells me Im the shit.

I text zey hey dork and she responds ,Im like oh shite she is receptive to that. wow cool.

then I go to the bank and get IOIs from afar, or soft signs from a banker woman constantly looking at me, she is a cougar on the prey.

anywyas I came up that its my state i project. being cool as fuck being the shit. voice the walk bodylanguage.

I think the bust your balls and soft signs were crucial to this plus affirmations of swinggcatt and badboy "youd be lucky to be with me" the subcommunication vibe of my swagger.

then I started to speak subcommunication

instaed of "I miss you " or "I like you"

subcommunication is to : make them laugh, make them feel good spike BT with humor. without directly conveying verbally you like them, women speak that language and if you talk to them in that language then you get rapport fast and its like you are secret society in her mind.


NOTE: this isnt indirect ,its talking through subcommunication.

this is awareness of what franco calls soft signs reading soft signs and applying this in your seduction makes it more powerful, non verbally.

this is cornerstone of eliciting IOIs by your projection and you knwing how to talk to women, through their gut or subcommunication not through logic normal vague insecrue non preselected way of talking with women.

its tricky

its RAKE type game

russel brand and this can get her chasing .


I like this thing I use when I get shit test to prove myself

"I dont explicate I demonstrate"

more California Pimp stuff and my Neediness management energy transfer, Jack Ellis Forbidden Patterns 2 review.

california pimp old videos as Topo mentioned are really good cause he pushes the girl to want to fuck him.

A-B aubry august Bella all of them really good and really repetive what he does. he has solid frame control unexplainable so far but its mostly goal oriented and him calibrating his 101s.

how he frames them being and feeling naughty and making them say things and role play makes it real to her emotions but to her makes it logically not real.So she goes with it once she is really horny.

could work and awesome way of seeing it.
making her say she is naughty and have her move around as he does to make her get on her knees and her hand.

this guy is good..he is similar to my best friend natural.

NEEDINESS MANAGEMENT

So I started analyzing based on Tripp telling me how Im chasing these girls andhow Im being LSE and not the prize. how Im coming from a low value of my eyes to overgame and try hard.
this made me think that its my neediness.
I think its similar to what Jon Sinn is feeling in his post and Im dealing with non sense from gloria and zey and Nina.

so I wrote a letter to him, since I felt being needy or managing neediness with my chihuahua. and to myself, I noticed I lack social calibration lack of human contact.I shall read this in getting the Good girls Book on State.

also I read bust her balls and soft signs of which talk about Approach Invitation. how it involves screening.this gives me ideas to come up with my own material to screen her for escalation. as Franco makes wonderful teaching on this Book, blows me away.

Also review of Jack Ellis Forbidden patterns:

Think that its good material but you forgot to put when or what pattern elicits for woman to take action. for attraction or comfort or like the door after sex pattern.you lack putting them in that order.
What good is bernie madoof for? to tell women not to rob you? night stalker was for what? ttheres no direction for ease of use on these. did you happen to get the video of intense demoing october man? i have that dvd of him demoing octoberman on a woman. eye ebook im confused w masonic and gang signals use w patterns im used to pointing to myself. confusing man. thr italian video i enjoyed very much.

energy tranfer is reframing your energy toward something , if you get dumped then use that to go to the gym, if you are dieting use that anger to work out.

what you do with that anger that rush of energy of survival instinct and put it into good use.
this is also used to manipulate others emotions and redirect it with framing as california pimp does


what will you do with your time and energy?

turn shit into fertilizer towards what you want towards your goal

Letter to Trip to myself and Stop the LSE attitude and get back into being REAL with Myself

Hey man
I'm be honest that ive been thinking the whole day.
and yes i feel like ive denigrated myself w begging w gloria and her lse made me feel like lse.its like energy traps you energy vampires.

My fb from nyc is super needy too.and in the past id never paid attention. today ukrainian girl seemed uneedy and abit grouchy cause she has the flu and im far away and wtf i mean i cant be fucking needy.when i feel needy i get upset and give love to my chihuahua or im super cool w friends.

But when i was super good i was uneedy and game was easier prizing being prize reversal role of her chasing me was smoother.here im heavyily texting not getting anywhere no meet ups bunch of mindgames more i try to get her to invest in my position is like overcompensating overconfident. so im upset that yeah i have to be the real me the cool me and screen girls better.
Zey called me up saying she was near my work and i was somewhere else she left a voicemail.later i texted her and she was like i went by your work today.lol. and as i responded she soesnt respond back to texts and is non compliant. its so stupid cause i know i dont have to deal with shit like this if my personal life is straight.my career my school and gym and nutrition.mange my time wisely. think about me first and stop being needy.its fucking upsetting that im strugling to close this older woman who is hot but all act the same pattern of 13yr olds. i want to close and i get her not responding my texts or not wanting to meet up.at this point im like fuck this shit.im fucking goodlooking i can game good if i pushed harder in daygame sets. go to gym. focus on me rather than my family.cause dude i get nightmares on dying and how old we are and how life is short man.like even healthiest man in world died of a heart attack.im be 33 and in 40 i cant be cold appraoching man.

I cant going to clubs or shit like that. inever had youth.ive always been true to my career and school and family behave and act and marry who they wanted me to. ofcourse i have to be passive aggressive with them cause i live here but give little not all my time.when im about to die in accident or old age or whenever i dont want to blame my parents or make excuses. i want to say thank you God for everything and thats it...

Monday, February 21, 2011

saffron hidden GEM

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HB,
Congruence is defined as when goals, values, thoughts, behaviors, the conscious and unconscious minds are in rapport or agreement. Now lets dive into this a little more with out me writing a novel

The rules of pick up are not changing as much as evolving. Using material such as MM, style, savoy are the best ways to move towards congruency. To be congruent is to be inline with your "inner game". having to memorize lines in not utilizing you inner game and the attributes that you already have. Everyone has a DHV story, but to get started its sometimes easier to use someone else. We all have ways of building comfort, but sometimes its easier to use lines that we know work and have been tested.

PU is not like reading the instructions on how to set up a VRC (there is only one way to do it) but more like building a clay vase (many ways and options). how ever there are basic instructions on how to do both. (maybe not the best analogy haha). You need to figure out what you can bring to the table and then amplify the seductive qualities. That is seductive congruency. Taking what you have and turning it into inner game that shows though your outer game. Using lines helps build inner game, and having inner game helps build out game, and having better outer game helps build congruency within. See where I'm going with that.

Quick personal story
When I first started PUA I read MM like most and was blow away by the results. My buddies would always ask though what do you do after the first couple dates when your PUA material wheres out. And they would also tell me that using the material was just not me (but hey it produced results:) Then as I got better I didn't need as many lines and was able to do more direct openers opposed to question openers. i was then able to bring in more aspects of my actual life and knowledge which gave me allot more confidence. This confidence helped me greatly with my inner game and made PU much easier because it was me, just a better more seductive me.

As far as where you are i think Saffron breaks it down best:
Beginner:
# Be comfortable with Approaching Strangers (IG)
# Open and Carry on a Conversation with Women (OG)
# Work on Body Language and Tonality in an attempt to convey friendliness and dominance (IG)
# Appear comfortable and not creepy (IG + OG)
# Convey the best parts of your personality through stories to build attraction (IG + OG)
# Develop and use routines (not vital. must be seen as more of a crutch for when you brainfart)

Intermediate:
# Be comfortable with your sexuality (IG)
# Directly convey your sexuality (OG)
# Properly Deal with AMOGs (OG+IG)
# Effectively deal with shit tests and CBs (OG+IG)
# Pump a woman's state (OG)
# Think ahead logistically (OG)
# Can your own material (I think that this is important, so that you can keep track of the variables and focus on what needs work)
# Act, talk, move and think dominantly (IG)
# Be non-needy (IG)
# Develop an attractive Identity (IG)

Advanced:
# Express your attractive identity (OG)
# Create a Social Bubble at every venue that others are dying to get in (IG+OG)
# Develop an iron-clad frame (IG)
# Understand how to be the prize -- (OG+IG: push/pull?)
# Create a powerful social circle and learn how to effectively social proof (OG)
# Be Amazing at Sex (IG+OG)
# Calibrate your material/BL/tonality properly based on a woman's interactions (OG+IG)
# Create and manage a Harem OR find a LTR (OG)
# Teach others what you've learned (IG+OG)
~Saffron

I hope that this helps you guys.

sexual cold reading framing and text

review gary broadsky how to be a player aka how to dominate women play the game.
he talks alot of having control of her identity her image of what you think about her..to have her investing into you.
this connected with topos post on readstack and
breakdown of california pimp frame control and escalation to getting her aroused in sexual state.
alessy taylor.

so you have to be proactive. intressting.
I text:

ME: I had a dream about you last night , but I cant tell you
HER: haha you are 2 funny (accepting the frame)

later
ME: YEah :P I mean if you were to imagine how Hot Wild and passionate that would be like...you wouldnt be able to stop thinking abou tit the whole day ;)


Topo talks about his basis of redstack
:
It is my belief that if people studied
#1 the TMM model and got an instructor to break it down
#2 Studied the California Pimp
#3 Studied Alexyss K Tylor
#4 Kept up on social psychology and all the studies about sub communication
#5 And tested it out in the field consistently (like using a routine stack)

People from whatever background could be bad ass at game.
So with that being said….
Here is my stack, with my notes on it so you can NOT try and copy me, but BUILD your own.

My current routine stack…
(well maybe not now because I am publishing it)
And explanations as to why it works…


Opener-
(at opener engage in touching, you don’t have to do it continuously, just begin it. For myself I just touch them on the arm and don’t escalate till I bait them into more comfort.

Direct
(in using direct, you need to carry it quickly into conversation, these openers won’t get you anywhere if you don’t jump threads right away.)

“Hey, you guys seem nice, are you friendly?”
“So where do all the cool people hang out?”

Opinion

“Hey guys, I have got to ask you, my friend Michelle and I were here (or some other place, any place public really) he other night and there were these two making out in the middle of the walk way… (light tap on the arm) No seriously listen (I qualify them during the opener to maintain their attention, this is important, because if you can control their state then you can capitalize on that massively)
What I she always like this?
No but really they were like in the middle of the walkway. I like totally don’t get how people think that is like ok.
(Change state to something more intimate)
You know like when I was dating my ex-girlfriend, she is a dancer, we would, like to be together at places, and sometimes but we had a booth or something.
(access if the state change in comfort hooked and jump thread, if not back to attraction state and continue with opener and attraction threads)
Like seriously next time I see that I am going to go up to the guy and girl and give them a condom or something.


After in the group, usually within 30 seconds if I haven’t hooked comfort yet.

So how do you guys all know each other?
That’s cool, cause I am from Hawaii and I am not used to how people socialize here. I mean I have been here for years, but… (this almost always get an opening to comfort)

But if not I continue…

(build another intimate state with a little bit of excitement)
Yeah like you can tell a lot about people n how they carry themselves. Like you know my friend Molly is this just beautiful girl, she is just the perfect mix of everything, but the way she carries herself just exudes this lack of confidence.
(here make your state more quiet, from the heart… as if they can see it in your eyes)
And then you’ll know somebody that is not made up at all, not too much make-up and they’re just themselves, and they radiate.

You can keep going with but you can usually jump from there, but if you do want to continue….

Like I when I walked by you guys, just out of the corner of my eye I caught you guys and I kind of caught that vibe.
You know how you just kind of get that from people?

Transitioning
(here is the key to a transition, they should be done smoothly, you stack should script that, like everything you say should bait them further into your stack. At this point I have a lot of stuff going on. I have I am from Hawaii (get a reaction), I have DHVs of hanging out with my friends who are women. I have an ex that is a dancer. I have intuition about people that notices the ‘true beauty’ of people, and a slight cold read on them. So I can transition and build in any of those ways. So how do I want the night to go… am I looking for and SNL, do I want to go for a Day 2, Do I want a fuck buddy, do I want to try and find a girl that I can just have fun with and keep me company, or maybe I am thinking about settling down and want to find a girl I really like.
This is perhaps the most important part of HOW your game is played right here.
Right here, you should have attraction and slipping into comfort. But one thing Sinn brought to the community is that they all interact with each other. Attraction weaves through Comfort, and it even makes it into Seduction. They are cyclical, they are all prominent enough to be their own thing, but they all work with each other many times all three at once.)

So here is my qualification
(also at this point you should have social isolation within the group, if not it would not be impolite to isolate her)

“Hey you know what, you guys are cool, I can tell form just…
So what do you do when you’re not hanging out at (name venue)?”

Answer doesn’t matter,

“Wow, really. That’s actually really cool, my friend Ishtar does (name their answer) and he is like the most… together person I know. Like I am a Photographer, Like I have a cool job, and I get to travel all over the place, but Ishtar has got something, you know, something that I want. He’s like so grounded with himself.”

Ok, here is the thing; you don’t have to say you’re a photographer.
I have a job and skill that is normally ‘socially’ cooler than most people’s jobs.
The reason why I bring them up in their occupation is because it helps align my comfort. Then they are framed to play to me. Right now very lightly, but later it gets really big. Kind of like, what I do with my life is really beautiful and passionate, I will give you a taste of it, so you can se how beautiful it is. So now you see how important it is for me to do what I do, so you have to help me maintain it. So it will develop a Harem or Servant Comfort. See all that to explain, what a frame does. In fact you could incorporate that all into a cold read too to give them more identity with it.

So let’s say you have a job that is ‘socially’ uncooler than most people’s jobs. You can transition in many ways. But it is not the job that defines the interaction. Your job is not your identity, notice I don’t’ talk about my job I talk about my values. With that in mind here is an example if I were to get somebody who had a ‘socially’ cooler job.
“Wow, really that is amazing, you know when I was a boy I used to dream about that. (or let’s say is a female exclusive job, you should go into a similar story about how when you were young your friend, sister, mom, aunt dreamt of that of was that) Then you need to manufacture a story about it.
Transition into so when you were young did you always know how this was going to be?

For story telling, that is a whole art in itself.
And a massive tool for comfort.

But we will leave it there for now.
A stack that emulates this will easily get you into heavy comfort.
If I can get a girl to go this far into my stack about (10mins-15mins) I can pretty much tell where I am with her. I can tell if she is closable.

So there it is. There is actually more on comfort that I have to say, but there is only so much that I can write for the night.

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Learn the POWER of the PENIS and the SPIRITUALITY of the SPERM!
Posted by El Topo at 2:02 AM



Guys this is quite possibly the most impactive product that you can get!
And it is Newly Revised to make it easier to learn.
Here's what it is,
You give me a short synopsis of your life, and I turn it into 90 Plus Mins of customized material for you, that takes you from Opening all the way into Deep Comfort.
It utilizes the idea of framing, defining the identity and interaction you have with whoever you're talking to.

I believe it is the most efficient way to game. This is how the Dallas Crew of PUAs (Sinn Captain Jack, Shaft and Myself) would be able to get those 20min to 4 hour Lays.

If you are interested in reading about some of the methods in how I translate your life into solid material check out these blog posts.
theREDstack Post 1
theREDstack Post 2
theREDstack Post 3

The great thing about having a stack is that you don't have to think, you can go into a set and tell the story of your life, from the opener. Go out and game with better success than using canned material that has nothing to do with you.

The process is easy, I send you some information to fill out for me to build your profile and after you're done with that, give me about 10 days to build it. I send it to you in an email and you're set to go.

theREDstack & New Podcast with Doc and Saffron
Hey Guys,
Here is a pretty funny Podcast with the dudes from Practical Pick Up.
Doc Holiday and Saffron!

If you don't read their blogs you should. Entropy is in one with Sinn, and Entropy and I were way too drunk to record anything in Detroit, but there will be an NEXT TIME!

Go HERE for the Podcast!

Hopefully you guys like the face lift to my blog, Thanks to Doc Holiday. There will be more to come with a reviews page and some other links to LRs and More Popular Writings.

I wrote this article last week, let me know what you think...
Also there will be Text Game Part 3 and some more of the Comfort Stuff I wrote about a few week ago coming up!

To all in North Carolina... see you there in a few days!

ET


theREDstack
Building Routines from your Life

For the past 9 months I have developed a pretty popular product I in the community. I call it theREDstack. Whenever I go to lairs I give demonstrations of how to build them for yourself, which is kind of how this article came about. Now there is a lot to it, but one of the most impressive things that people comment to me on is how I turn mundane stories from people’s lives into something that can be used in game.

What theREDstack is basically you give me some information from your life, I will come up with a series of routines that will build you Attraction, Seduction in tandem, while making is all flow smoothly together. Usually about 90mins of material. You will hardly need any other routines after you have it.

Now mainly I write these articles because, although I took a Boot Camp, most of my game knowledge came from people showing me their ideas and adding a little creativity and application to it. The community taught me. Of course that was the community of Captain Jack, Sinn, Future, Shaft and Fidelio, but nonetheless I learned for free after my BC. So hopefully you can take away something from this and down the road show me a thing or two!

So if you like what you are reading please email me eltopoPUA@gmail.com and find more information like this on my Blog- http://the-red-mole.blogspot.com/

So let’s start with what makes a DHV Story (Demonstration of Higher Value).

What a DHV Story is based on are the Attraction Switches.
There are a ton of them, and they should probably be re named but let’s take some of the ones I like to implement while working with people.

-Understanding Women’s Emotions
-Identity
-Lifestyle
-Pre-selected by Women
-Being Dominant
-Wiling to Emote
-Protector of Loved Ones

These are just a few of the 15 or so of the Attraction Switches kicking around and I know those are different than the one’s normally mentioned but I really want to shed more light of things rather than say the same thing over and over again.

Now let’s see if we can take normal and average stuff from someone’s life and turn it into something that can work as a DHV.

How we will do this, is I will take common things from what people tell me, usually thinking they are DLVs (Demonstrations of Lower Value) and turn them into powerful stories.

Hopefully you will be able to come up with some of your own, after reading this.

-When I was growing up I had a very strong mother, that juggled cleaning the house, taking care of us kids but also taught us to cultivate our individual passions.
- My first real friend was a girl down the street, when I started school my new friends made fun of me for being friends with a girl and I never talked to her again.
-I work as a teacher in middle school.
- When I was young I remember how my dad, who only had me on the weekends, would work on cars. I would watch him, but it always made me sad that he would not actively show me. I think I actually annoyed him.
- I would walk my little sister to school everyday after she came home crying because some of the boys made fun of her.
- The first time I felt like I was grown up, was when my father and I got stuck on a fishing boat and I actually helped us get back to shore. He treated me differently after that and it was the first time I thought he was proud of me.
- I get insecure around women I am attracted to.
-My mom passed away when I was 18, and it is the single most experience that changed my life.
- My friend Ralph was separating from his wife and I helped them reconcile and they are still married to this day.


So those are typical things I hear during presentations and typical things that I get in people’s profiles when creating theREDstack for them. Here is a simple story that will Frames, Add Value and Lead the target in the right direction. And it will be based on the information above.

‘One of the things that I really love about meeting people is what you grab from people’s first impressions. For instance, when I was growing up I was pretty much raised by my mother, and so I have always had close friends that were women.

But one of the things that I can remember was that my first friend was a girl from down the street, and my dad left when I was 3 years old so my mother used to work quite a bit. So I would stay at one of the neighbor’s houses. They had a girl my age and pretty much from the age of 3 to 5 we were best friends.
It was such a different interaction in thinking back on it.
Mainly because the dynamic was different than how I ended up interacting with my guy friends, but we were so innocent too. There was nothing to fear because we had nothing to influence us.
And actually, when I started school things became totally screwed up. Right away, the guys in my kindergarten class made fun of me for being friends with a girl, and I never talked to her again. She tried to talk to me, but eventually gave up. And it will always be one of those things that I feel guilty about.

But, you know it is like the same thing now as it was then. The way men and women communicate in that same sort of way. Like things that happen between me and my girlfriends are always fun, but they are like a part of our own world. When you are with guys there is always social pressure that tries to influence you.
Like take sex for example, in how guys view it and how women view it. I always thought I was weird around my guy friends when I would bring this up but women always seemed to think this way. Women like to experience between people, and guys really only seem to care about getting off.

For me, I always hate bringing this up, but around really attractive people I can get intimidated. And to be honest you’re a really good looking woman, and I shouldn’t be afraid to say that, but those are the things that I think intimidate guys to act the way they do. I mean one thing I know from growing up with a sister and a mother around me all the time is women, like to be lead, but at the same time it has got to be done right.
Like what is something that you hated about the last guy you dated?

(she answers, doesn’t matter what she say you just continue on)

No, the thing about it is that guys don’t know how to be men anymore. Guys are pussies. Like I remember when I was 11 my sister, who is 2 years younger that me, got picked on by some guys on the way home from school. And I remember it made me so mad, that everyday for the rest of the year I walked with her hoping to see those guys. I never did see em, but that is what is missing from guys these days. They don’t get how to communicate with women. They don’t even realize that sometimes women want to be lead, and that being comfortable is more important than being pressured into anything. They don’t get that a simple action or bit of caring can change everything.

I bet you like to be totally wild, and you intimidate most guys who meet you, and when you date them, but if they allow you to be comfortable with them you can totally let loose, right?

So if you don’t mind me asking what do you do for work?

(she answers)

Wow, cool, I am a teacher.
You know that makes me think about how I came about doing what I do. I mean there are things that you do when you are a kid that kind of shape who and how you’re going to be right.
Like my dad would have me on the weekends and every chance I got I wanted to spend with him. I can remember sitting in the garage and watching him work on his car. That is pretty much all he did all the time.
I always wanted him to show me, but for the most part he was mostly annoyed by me being there. He wouldn’t let me mess up his tools so I would make up my own and sit there and teach myself how to fix cars.
I didn’t really know what I was doing but I would do it, just to imagine myself doing it.
And from that moment on I always knew I would be doing something where I would be helping people.

But like I said, it is part the job and part of how you grew up. Like because you work as a (X) you actually have a lot of the same things going on as me. Like my job has always made me really passionate and tenacious and with you because you work in (X) I can see the same things, but you actually do those things outside of your work. Like you are totally a girl that can step over the line, but like I said earlier, you just have to feel comfortable with someone first before you can let that wild side out.

It is actually a weird thing though, because there are 2 events in my life that really changed me. It is just like when you are a little kid and you could decide to go in one direction and the path you choose really defines a lot. Like I was saying with my first friend who was a girl. I will feel guilty about that anytime I think about it.

But there was this one time when I was with my father, and like I said I always wanted his attention and never felt like I got it. And when I was 16 we were fishing and we didn’t get back to shore before the sun went down. To make a long story short we both worked together to get back to shore. I could tell that it was one of the first times my dad was actually scared. And when we got back to shore I realized that, at that point he actually considered that I was grown up.
That moment changed my whole perspective and direction on things.
And then 2 years later my mother actually passed away.
It was one of those things that I will never forget. It changed me in so many ways, but one of the things it changed most about me was that, you need to live life in the moment and live it completely.
Sometimes you need to give your love to everyone, and other times you just need to have fun and not care about being careless.

Let me ask you something, you look like someone who could use a break, outside of all the bullshit. When was the last time you did something that truly defined you. Like I mean something totally crazy?

See that is the thing that is missing from peoples lives. I mean my best friend from childhood is my buddy Ralph. And him and his wife were having issues, and don’t get me wrong I would love to have my buddy around me at all times, drinking beer and watching sports, but he was screwing up a good thing. It was like they had all the relationship stuff down but no spontaneity. And that is something that all people want and need, especially women, but nobody will every really ask for.
And it was funny, but just that little bit, that little bit of surprise and romance where his wife needed to be swept of her feet and be taken to feel like a women, was all that was missing.

I mean I hate to bring this up, when I was just saying that your face kind of lit up… you’re sexually frustrated.'


To keep this short I don’t want to get into all the specific Frames happening here, but this is not just conversation. It is very structured, balancing emotion, Attraction and Introducing and defining Sexuality for them. When you think about it this is about 5-10 mins of material and in that short amount of time you can lead the conversation in a tactical direction.
And also you can have it from your life.

If you are interested in knowing about anymore of this stuff, hit me up. And hit me up about anything eltopoPUA@gmail.com
Or read more on my blog
my Blog- http://the-red-mole.blogspot.com/


Thanks

ET



theREDstack Part 2
The other night I sent out a post on my Podcast list (sign up on the upper right hand corner of my blog. Sing up I will be putting out another promotion out there this weekend!).
(Also make sure you scroll down later to take a look at the Lesson I included in this!)
It was announcing that I am about starting to take orders again for theREDstack!
It has actually been unadvertised for the past 3 and a half months.
But here is the thing with it, Fidelio and I are not quite done to the changes we have made. theREDstack got Immediate results for students with that Product and we want to get even better Results with the New Version.


The new stacks are very heavy on Attraction, but using the new ideas of Attraction, It was utilized in the original stacks but now it is thoroughly explained, with more uses of it making it more prominent.

Since I started teaching theREDstack Seminar along with new developments in game some awesome evolutions have taken place. And I will give some examples of this later in the post.
But the main things was that in theREDstack Seminar I build everyone who attends a basic “Attraction Stack”. An Attraction Stack basically gets you from opening into Heavy Rapport, and it begins your Framing, which I think is the most effective part of game.

Now some of the New Ideas in Terms of Attraction don’t use the older models as Attraction being a series of Steps or Routines. How I view Attraction is that it is an Attitude that only opens a door to the use of framing, other emotional reactions, and things like Subpersonalities. Once myself and some of the other Dallas guys started using Attraction in this way, we got way more efficient and consistent results.

When I started writing stacks, I used attraction in this way, and some found it confusing…but those that were able to make use of it got insane results. I have written over 70 of these and within a week 23 people (that I know of ) got SNLs.. That is Insane!

People don’t get those results from taking a Boot Camp. And not everybody wanted their stack to be geared towards SNLs. Remember thery are Custom to your life and your goals in Game.

So here is what I talked about in the email,
I had said that in the past 3 Lair Talks I have done in June (Boston, Detroit, and Charlotte) I had multiple guys tell me they would do anything to do a Boot Camp of a Stack Seminar but they didn’t have the money.
And it sucks to turn down a guy who has ambition but can’t afford the price.

So I decided for July I was going to offer a Shortened Version of the updated REDstack for a discounted price. Normally it is $750 and about 30 pages long, usually carrying you 90mins Plus in set. I have committed that I will only take 10 orders and in the past 30 hours I have sold 5.
You can sign up for them HERE and I will get in contact with you about them once you have signed up!

Now in August My new stacks will be ready and the price will be back up at $750. Yes, those stack will be longer and more thorough, mainly because I need to be fair to my past and future clients.
But this will be a great opportunity for those who have a little less to invest get something that has IMMEDIATE results and at a more affordable price.

Here is an Example of what I got in the last week where I implement parts of my New Stack to a Story a client gave me to look over.

Again if you are interested in getting in on the before they are sold out, Click Here!
They will sell out in the next few days!



Q and A

El Topo,

Using what you gave me from the stack info online I took this story from an Art Show I was featured at.
Can you tell me if I am going in the right direction or not?
I believe that what I created here is what you go for in your stacks. It is a DHV I never knew how to say until I read your stuff, let me know if I am on the right track.

Thanks in advanced,

T-Bone PUA


Here it is-

"It's funny you say that because in my experience often the most important moments in your life aren't what you think they're going to be.
For instance, I wrote this have always been an artist, doing paintings, right?

I don't know if you've ever heard that White Stripes song "Little Room," but he talks about the excitement of sitting in your tiny room, and you're working on something that you just know is great, you know it's really going to blow people's hair back and how magnificent that feeling is. Well, I always felt that way when I would begin painting something in my little room and this time it turned into this big thing.
And the first showing of it was -- God, it was massive. It was in New York and basically the studio took over Tribeca with all the commotion and after party.
But the thing is... my family is really fragmented. My parents had a really angry divorce that -- well, truth is I think they were both the love of each other's lives and even though the couldn't stay married they probably they never really moved from that relationship. So my parents can't really be in the same room together. And my brother and dad hadn't talked for like 9 years at the point. Couldn't invite family friends without my family feeling burned. And I was dating around in LA but nothing serious -- no one I wanted to fly to New York with me and share this major moment.


So the night comes and I'm in this hotel room overlooking Central Park in this city that nearly ruined me just a few years before. And I put on this suit -- I was so stressed about what to wear I found this cranky old tailor who actually used to make suits for Frank Sinatra and have him make me one. So I put the suit on and, well, it's perfect. Perfect suit. Perfect hotel. Perfect, perfect, perfect... so why am I feeling so weird?


So I end up going to the Showing of my Painting with my two Managers and my lawyer. They're amazing people -- they would each kill for me and actually have, in their way. But I was like, who am I really sharing this with? You know, my dad, when I would get my report card -- and in elementary school they don't give you As and Cs but things like "demonstrates skill" or "needs improvement." So my dad had this ritual like where we'd read through the report card and he's just read them off like, "class participation... DEMONSTRATES SKILL!" and so on. And that would be our joke for years to come whenever I did something well. So I really missed him not being there to look over at me and say, "DEMONSTRATES SKILL!" during that night.


You know, when you create something from yourself, and other or guests people look at it, see it experience it, and then they look at YOU and don't see what's on the canvas -- it's weird, because it's YOU up there, but no one sees you. All that stuff you thought up in your little room, well, there it is! They see the colors and the flow and interpret it all but they don't see you in your little room, right? So I looked at the who was next to me... empty ... No real family, no real friends... And there I am in my perfect suit on this perfect night and I was like, "Can we just get this over with?"


It's funny, though, amidst all that there was this one thing that happened. You know there was a lot of international press there the other artists. And, you know, no one really knows what I looked like. But somehow this girl -- young, maybe 24, great energy, great style, from some German Radio station or something comes over and knows who I am and does this small interview with me. And we finish it up and then after she turns her recorder off we have this... moment. Like a look passes between us. And do you know -- I know that you do -- but you know how there are certain *looks* you share with someone that can carry the full charge and intensity of, say, a 6 month relationship? It was one of those. Like when you're both really seeing the other person. And it happened as we were kind of walking away from each other. So after the movie I'm looking around for her to... I don't know what for. I guess I really just needed some kind of connection that night. But I was never able to find her. Maybe she had to go file her story. Who knows. But I didn't know then what I know now -- that there are moments, just seconds, sometimes, where you have the opportunity to magnify something with someone. And if you don't take it, you will never have that again. I'm not saying you'll be lonely for ever, but those exact circumstances -- that person, that lighting, that situation, that willingness, that intensity -- will never present itself exactly the same way again. And if you walk away from it you are walking away from it for good. Period. Which is kind of heartbreaking. But also very cool. For instance... you and me, here, talking... "


Hey T-BonePUA,

Sorry for getting back to you so late, but here is what I get from this story.


I think that you get the story telling part of this all. It is actually a pretty good NLP style thread but we are missing some of the FRAMES and Cycling and Maintaining Attraction in the story.
Very good emotional flow, but nothing is pushing and pulling back on the listener, nor Defining them. So you need add some structural technique in it.

I hope this helps!

ET

Here are some frames you want to fit in your stories-
- Spontaneity
- Sexually Aggressive
- Being a Leader
- Takes Risks
- Non-Judgmental
There are more, but right now, you have a great story but no frames taking advantage of it all.


So pretty much all of the story can stay the same. You need 3 things to it.

-You need a beginning description of it(define the frame), which you have but you need to link it to them more.

-You need to use check ins and qualification to have them build more interest

-You need to define the ending a bit better (again you do this, but you can make all those emotions a bit more sexual). At the end the initial frame definition should have way more meaning by the story taking place, and the ending definition.


So let me give you a few examples of what I mean.
The story can start off by leading them with some sort of qualification, that will inspire a story in order to make that qualifier make more sense.

So you can ask or tell one of these

1-Let me ask you this, when did you last meet someone that changed your complete perspective on things?

2- I was wondering, you seem like someone who is close with their family?

3- When was the last time you let something slip through your fingers?
4- I can tell you are someone who has the best stuff happen to you when you go for what's in front of you.

Then based off of their reaction, you lead in to the story. You then need to say what the story is about. In this you need to define the frame you want before going into it. Then the story is just to give the frame emotional identity. Then afterwards you redefine that frame. So based on the qualifier you need to transition (you do this well, but I would do it this way).

for the first question you could say something like this after she answers.

'I mean that is one of the most important things for me, is when you meet someone you need to live for that moment. Actually it makes me think of this White Strips song....'

For the second one you could say...

'That is what I figured, I knew when I met you, you had that warm heart to that wild persona you have too. I mean I have always had kind of a refracted family. And it made me such an internal person. I mean it is almost like I still have my friends that are beautiful people and I consider them my family. But that is something that brings the best out of me, that side which can disappear into myself and that other side that loves to connect. And actually I think you are the same in a way. (she can acknowledge or not) You know that reminds me of this White Stripes song...'

For the third...

'See I have always been someone who has been spontaneous, but it can be a double edged sword.
Like with you there are two sides of you too. I bet your best moments are when you do step over the edge, and sometimes you slip but it can be worth it in the end.
There is this song by the White Stripes...'

For the fourth...

'For me I had to learn to actually be that way. I was not always someone who would go for stuff right off the bat. I think that is how I started writing... but that is how I can pick out people with that sort of crazy mentality to know when to jump, because I have to be around those people to get anywhere...hahahaha. But this is actually a funny story, you know that White Stripes song....'

So also you need some check-ins, to engage them more. This is a Juggler thing. And super effective. This is only one tool to Cycle the Attraction, but remember Attraction is just there to open the door for you, it is not really leading much, it is Baiting!

For instance, when you bring up the song 'little room', that is great but make it interactive.
So you could say something like, 'you know when you're a little kid and you have music that makes things, like what is one of those songs that brings you right back to childhood?'
After she answers then you can continue on.

The reason for this is because you need for them to emotionally interact in your experience as much as possible.

And the story is a bit long, but if you are in comfort with someone it shouldn't be a problem in terms of what logistics. You say you wouldn't talk to anyone at clubs about this, but do you only pick up in clubs? And you could say all this in a club, you would just have to keep maintaining attraction throughout it. We can talk about this over the phone.

But the meat of the story is good, but you just need it to have their emotions hook to the frames.
Now the frames at the end right now are that 'we are meeting now and we can't pass it up'. That is great but they could be so much more. Remember, if you start out with a frame then after they get lost in the story they can define the frame at the end of it.

So you can say something like...

'Like meeting you right now...but don't get any ideas, your wild side might be too much for me.'

'You know one of the things with you, is I don't meet people like this, even in a club. There is so much to a person that you get off when you first meet them. Like right now with you, I can tell so much about you, it is just when egos get in the way we see so many other things. I mean you have this totally cute side to you, but I bet that gets you out of more trouble than people give you credit for.'

'And so we my whole thing is when someone comes my way and I know they are someone I would like to meet, I go out of my way to make that happen. And with you there is so much more than what people know you for. I bet you intimidate most people, like I bet your last boyfriend you held back on him, right?'

Hope that Helps

ET
eltopoPUA@gmail.com


El Topo's Smooth Transitions to Comfort

So I am about to head up to Detroit for a Lair Talk and Workshop with Entropy from Boston.

Should be an awesome weekend, and should be a learning experience all around.
Doc, Saffron, Entropy and Myself are all going to trade One on One’s with each other.
And form now on anyone that I work with closely we will do the same thing.

In any case, there are also some new podcast coming out and some audio LRs (don’t let that fool you, it is more like us interviewing each other about certain LRs we have had).

But I wanted to write this mainly because my Gaming Towards a Life Style and My Text Message breakdown Posts have been popular.
This will shed some light on both of those topics as well as shed light on topics that are often ignored in the community.

So what made theREDstack such a popular product was that there is so little
information out there on comfort game.

When someone is new to the community or they take their first Boot Camp they will often say that they Have no Attraction Game, but once they are talking to a girl they are fine (assumed Comfort). But once they work on Attraction and get that down, Comfort then loses its familiarity.

Mainly because it has no structure.

But again let me know what you think,
eltopoPUA@gmail.com

If you are like MMAPUA and don’t want to read my ramblings on Theory then skip to the part listed as EXAMPLE way down at the bottom.

On Mon I will post the rest of this on the puasanctuary.com/forum and the Lounge too.
But in this post I will show you how to establish Frames that smoothly lead you into Comfort.

So when we get to the Comfort Game there was very little ever written on it or taught in general about it.

Initially it was broken down into 3 parts, C1, C2 and C3.
I think that these were a good way to simplify things but even the breakdown of Attraction in this same way neglects a lot of the interactions.
Things like A1, A2 and A3 are generally consistent in interactions, but there is a lot more to it and a lot less than what is normally sold.
Attraction Game sells and feels good at first, but it really has very little to do with getting to know someone let alone sleeping with them, and if you’re into the normal disturbing interactions I work towards it is useless.

So the person that helped me understand Comfort the best is the genius Captain Jack.
What he did was cut out DHVs and start to use Frames. Also what I saw him to and what Shaft does was layer a rhythm of emotions and frames.

CJ would actually use his dossal style of Attraction just enough to begin the Rhythm of his framing.

So before I breakdown some examples, let’s go over a few things.

1-Why Comfort is important?

Comfort is not babysitting or just gaining rapport. It is not just time bridging and changing locations. It is not telling heart melters or even emotionally moving someone. It is not just framing someone, or eliciting a subpersonality…it is all those things and more. It is how you place them all together.

It is getting someone into Rapport (on an equal level to you, no need to gain more dominance, but rather maintain it) and moving the interaction where you want it to go.
The reason why it is important is because you can have your most amount of influence here. You can actually define your relationship to your target here, and that is what this thing called game is really all about.

2- What is Layering emotions and Frames?

What I saw CJ do, then Shaft do and myself do, was simple take the same idea of multi threading but instead use Frames and different emotional eliciting stories to have the Frames gain more validity and momentum.

So CJ might give off some fun sexual frame, and then transition immediately into a story about his life that brought out emotion (aka a Heart Melter)

An example would be Strawberry Field into the Electric Bill story.
I will give more examples later.

3- What are Subpersonalities and Why are they important?

Subpersonalities are one way of saying that people have dynamics within themselves that are consistent. Like everybody has a part of them that can go totally out of control, everyone has a part of them that can be angry, everyone has a part to them that likes o be innocent and again, if you’re me, everyone has a side to them that likes to have their sexual creativity pushed to their limits.
Sometimes they are referred to as roles.
Now the reason why they’re important is because they help build compliance in a frame you’re trying to instill in someone.

What is mean is that if you are telling a girl that she is a girl that doesn’t judge you want her to believe it. So if you can bring that out with a part of her personality for her to immediately act upon then you have not only built a belief in her that, that side of her exists, but also you have gotten her to exercise that muscle of compliance towards that action, and if you’re really good you can then define that action as some other frame you’re going for.

Again, I will give an example of all this a bit later.

4- How do I manage Comfort?

This is something that people always ask me. Actually they ask me, what if you don’t get into comfort that quick. Well you can achieve rapport right away, but you can’t necessarily hold it. Every set it different but you will always need to do what we call CYCLE Attraction.

Attraction is your tool to open up window so that you can go further in Set.
So you can use it to transition in Comfort, you can use it to introduce a Frame, you can use it to work your logistics, you can use it to bust through LMR. It is the main tool in the Kung Fu Penis.

But in going for Rapport as quickly as possible and keeping it moving in the direction you want it to go, you have to manage it. So you have to use Attraction to make it move in the right direction.
So now think of Attraction like an Attitude rather than a series of steps.
Attraction is what you use to maintain comfort.

And again I will include examples of how to make this work below.

So before we get to the examples let’s go over briefly how loose Comfort was laid out before.
C1 was to Isolate. That is true but there wasn’t nearly as much of a structure to it than there was laid out for attraction, which is such a small interaction of game (considering a timeline, Comfort was always the most predominant area).

C2 was to Possibly Kiss and to set up the Time Bridge.
This is true too but you don’t need to Time Bridge all the time, and you can Kiss earlier too. I think Kissing in the Venue you meet them at while working quick game sets off more ASD than anything.

C3 was the Day 2. Day 2s are good for a while I was on a steak that I never did them, but sometimes you just got to. But again there was a lack of real structure to them.

And don’t get me started on the Seduction Part. There is even less information on that, and I am not even sure why… cause I thought that was the end goal in all of this.
I thought that this was all about getting laid and although I know the founders in all of this did get laid, it was just that none of this was ever broken down in a way that could work for most guys. But the Seduction Phase is definitely something that people like myself, Sinn, CJ, and pretty much everyone we work with can breakdown.

So in order to give this some structure, let’s say I am coaching a guy on Routines that is a Computer Programmer that is from a Family where he is the Only Child, and lives in Chicago, but is from a small town in Indiana and didn’t move to a big city until after college. The guy I am coaching has a hobby of Reading Self Help Books.
Now all the guys need to do is have some balls and is willing to open and gain dominance in the set. What to say, I can post about, but all the Body Language, Tonality, Expressions, and How you interact in set I can’t really write about…for now at least.

So here is the stack I would give him…


EXAMPLE
(I have broken it up into Parts so That is will be easier to Breakdown later)
From Opener

PART 1-

Hey guys, do you think that people kissing in a bar is something that totally normal or kind of weird?

(they answer)

Well, it is crazy because the other night I was with my friend Nancy and we saw these two totally getting down like in the hallway to the bathroom. I mean even the bouncers were afraid to break em up.
Like I was at the point where I was ready to hand em the keys to my car and the condom in my pocket.

But seriously when I was with my ex we would be intimate but we never wanted to show off, we would actually be somewhere out of someone’s view.

Transition with

So how do you guys know each other?

(they answer, doesn’t matter what they say)

Really?
That is interesting because I was just reading in this book about people’s reactions to questions and it was saying how at your first impression with someone that actually can tell you more about someone than what they tell you 5 mins after you meet them. I mean I was an only child so I have always been really good at getting what I want.
Like with you I can tell that you lead the group, and how you interact with people you’re the one that will actually pave the way for you friends.
And you, I don’t know, but you’re more of the person everybody has fun with, like the last time someone hit on one of your friends you are always the one that give me the most trouble.

And you, you are just plain trouble. I would even want to get started with you.
You would totally be like my little sister if I had one.

No but it was funny because one of the things I was reading about there was this guy who went around asking people questions and depending on how they reacted he was able to find out who he would get along with best.

So actually come here for a second (mini isolate the target)
So let me ask you this,
And just the first thing that comes to your head.

What is the Craziest thing you’ve done?
No come on no need to blush, just the first thing that comes to mind…

(make her answer, and make it fun, this is not to qualify in the traditional sense. It is to gain compliance and to cold read)

Ok so really, that is it with you? Now I can already tell you seem pretty cool, either that or you’re a total dork, but I can tell you’re someone that I am probably going to end up knowing for a while. And because of that, I know you have done weirder shit than what you just said.

(If the group is still around then you can engage for just a second with this but only to keep them happy and back to more isolation with her)

So guys, she is totally the girl that you can’t trust with anything right…
Like she is always the big gossip, right?

(back to mini isolation before the girl remerges the group)

But actually it is a funny thing cause…actually what is a hobby of yours?
(she answers)
So you know how there are things that you do, like outside of hanging out with your friends that can shape you outlook on things. Like even when you are around certain people is can totally change your perspective?
And I have this friend Sheila and she is like one of the most beautiful people I know, but she is super insecure, and once she opens her mouth you pick up on it right away.
But with me most of my friends around me always say that when they hangout with me they feel comfortable in telling me anything.

Actually with you, and with just how you respond you’re that friend that probably can keep a secret better than any of them, mainly because you don’t judge people and your friend come at you with all sorts of crazy stuff. So if we do anything crazy tonight you’ll have to pinky swear with me not to tell anyone…

PART 2

So here is one of the things with me. And it has always been a really big pet peeve.
I work with computers, and I always knew I would be in a field where I could use that creative side to me but also technical. The only problem is that most of the people I work with come at it from a completely different angle.
They work to work, rather than work to accent a certain part of themselves.
Actually what is it that you do for work?

(she answers)

That’s kind of cool, it is actually like the same thing with me. You have the same passions and can over the line at times but you don’t really do it around everyone. But when you are comfortable around people you actually have no problem showing it.
I would even say that you have a lot of friends but you only have 2 or 3 really good ones that actually get to see your wild side.

So really now, tell me the truth, what is something that is totally out of your element that people don’t get from you?

(she answers)

Ok so I am still not sure about you… you’ve totally inspired me I have got to give you this test. Come here.

(isolate some more, away form friends)

Ok so again just the first thing that comes to mind here.
My friend actually asked me this thing when I had just broken up with my ex so my answer would probably be different now.
So just the first one that comes to mind…
So pick a number between one and four.

Alright, you got it?

So what did you pick?

(here is how you read the answers…
first you start out by saying what you number was and it needs to be different than yours.
So you say…)

So when I did it I picked X
And like I said I was just out of a relationship and so X means that I was hesitant to show people what I was like all the time. Like I actually would rather go out with a group of people and than by myself. I would rather have people lead than be independent.

But you being a Y, that is a bit different. You are actually your best self when you acting on your own. And more than your friends you can be really aggressive, but more internally than anything. Like I said you have this total wild side when you are allowed to feel it.
Like I wouldn’t even want to see what kind of crazy shit you have got in you closet at home, there’s probably all these crazy trophies from your ex boyfriend. I could totally see you as the girl that could intimidate most guys you meet.

So right now we will break.
Here this is a good lead into establishing Comfort while building up all your frames and generating attraction while doing it.

I will post the Breakdowns on Monday with the rest of the stuff, showing how to build off of those Frames and do so with Subpersonalities and really making their emotions invested in to how you are defining your interaction with them

But you see game can work for anybody, you just have got to voice it in the right way!

And as alway, let me know what you think
eltopoPUA@gmail.com

Sunday, February 20, 2011

"Cali Pimp Reverse Engineered"

After we finished teaching our bootcamp and seminar last week in Tokyo, Kid44, Levo and myself stayed up all night watching Cali Pimp videos with Silk and GrizzlyHavoc, two of our best students. We're trying to break down what this Jedi is doing, here's some of what we found so far.

Anybody who has studied him too, let's put our heads together!


His state
Cali pimp puts himself in a massive sexual state before he even opens the door. He has that anchored to stomping his feet and then he opens the door with a bang. A big part of his method is obviously a black moebius, transferring his state onto her. The text he recommends about this is an essay on personal magnetism, written by a guy called Theron Q. Dumont who lived about a century ago (public domain now). According to him, this is the corner stone of what he does.

His tonality
He leads the girls through a series of emotional states, using his voice tone. He always starts out with warm, friendly and charismatic (not disinterested and sedated like we used to do with MM, not even when he picks them up at a night- or daygame venue.) He also uses long vowels and raises and lowers his voice tone as he does it.

So far we discovered 5 more ways in which he uses his tonality:
- reassuring (to handle her nervousness, "not a problem", "everything's cool", etc.)
- confusion (to handle her objections)
- enthusiasm (e.g. his IOIs)
- dismissive (for takeaways)
- laughter (to break tension and fractionate before building more tension)
- sexual (as he escalates), with sexual breathing
- horny (straining at the leash), this also shows his emotional wiring is okay. A woman's fantasy is to be so desirable to a man that he can barely control himself around her, and he's not afraid to show this.

Testing
He does a snake movement with the camera. When he comes closer, she either:
- flinches -> he backs off and goes into reassurance
- doesn't flinch -> he escalates

Compliance ladder
It seems the goal of his compliance ladder is the face touch. Once she agrees to that, he can get them into a sexual state much faster with kino.
- stand at the wall
- put your feet together (that also makes them feel less balanced)
- smile
- bend over
- say this line

Commitment and Consistency
He gets the girls to say that they are "naughty", "wild", a "wild girl". The first time it's usually tentative, so he tells them to say it like they mean it.
He gets her to verbalize anything that he sees in her which will help to move things forward. "Why are your nipples hard". "What are you looking down there for" when she looks at his crotch (after he grabs it).

Dealing with Resistance
- When a girl objects, he makes her repeat the objection, which will make it weaker. "What's that?" or "Why is that?" in a confused tone of voice. Then he stacks forward or pulls her hair.
- When a girl asks a question, he simply says "I'll tell you all about it." And immediately stacks forward.
- If he gets LMR, he has the girl turn herself on until she's too horny for LMR

Force Framing
His force framing is very simply. He just says things like
"you're feeling comfortable with me, right? "
"you're okay following directions"
"you can feel comfortable saying / doing whatever"
"why are you so naughty / you're naughty"
any gestures that can be misinterpreted as sexual, he says: "why did you do that", or "what were you thinking"
he touches his cock, then says "what are you looking down there for"
"what do you think of me?" then he interprets her answer as her seducing him
If a girl objects "I'm not okay with this", he says "What do you mean you're okay with this".
"what do you want to do with me? just go with it"
"how do you want to be remembered, sexy"
"what kind of girl are you, sexy"
"if you could be a little bit naughty, what would you be doing?"
Vocabulary
He frames her as "sexy", "wild", and "naughty", never as "dirty", "bitch" or "slut". Notice how the first three are seen as positive in our society. I think it's also very important that he uses the word "pretend" a lot, by telling girls to "pretend" to be a bad girl, he makes it OK.

Kino
Screw VinDiCarlo' model... here's CaliPimp's kino:
- touch face (w/ back of hand)
- pull hair
- slap her face (finger in her mouth), push it to the side
- slap ass
- grab boobs
- slap her hand (on his knee)
- thumb rubbing her chicks
- slap chicks

Takeaways
His freezouts are a lot stronger than what Mystery does. He tells her "It's not gonna work out" or "this is not working" and believably conveys that he's about to end everything, to get her to comply.

Misc realisations
- blame frame game aka S'n'A: "look what you're doing to me" (voice tone: turned on), "you are making me a little nervous", "I can't handle this, go easy with me". This takes away from her nervousness and builds comfort. It also force frames her as seductress.
- he critizises her to make her feel insecure, which will get her to overcompensate. He rewards her for that and holds out a bigger hoop
- resistance is part of the game for him, even if she's massively resisting, he just goes with it and has her sucking his cock within 15 minutes.
- His A2 game seems to be largely body language, dominance and sexuality. His A3 is based entirely on her looks and her compliance. His C game is based entirely on his voice tone and reassuring comments. His S game is dominant kino and dirty talk.
- 101: Neo-Rio is credited with the 101, instead of push-pull you do pull-push-pull. CaliPimp often gives her the option to object or leave, but sandwiched between two commands to move things forward.

Things you can't get out of his videos:
- his body language
- his phone game (he says somewhere he talks to them for 20 minutes before the first meet)


-Karea.

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so topo said alexys taylor and california pimp

Doc says use sexual cold reading from Topo.

Thursday, February 17, 2011

Warm Approach, solution to girls giving me IOIs Im starting to work on sticking points

I get opened like this all the time but I just started accepting the invitation.

Don't use an opinion opener or anything like that.

Go straight to qualification /comfort , adding a little attraction material along the way.

Adam says in his qualification guide about using this to capatalize on her interst with qualification.

Jon said qualifcation- and set up a date.
show interst in her what you qualify her.
but don t show too much interst- even level ground.

FRANCO says:
she likes you you are laid back, ask her questions to make her invest into you. aka Qualification.

reward and complianace. Jon said theres no difference between these pickups it has to do if you get her out again,alot of girls are flakey or are busy. you have to follow up on them.

So Franco says gauge her if her bt is into slutty mode close her.forget logistics go somewhere to be alone and have sex.


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Approaching can also happen when a woman gives an "approach invitation" (abbreviated "AI"), a favorable body language signal, like eye contact or a smile.

PUAs believe that reading signals like the woman touching her hair, laughing, (termed IOI – Indicators of Interest) and knowing when to "escalate" the interaction to more intimate levels when windows of opportunity arise are essential skills for having success of any nature. The timing of these escalations is thought to be critical because a missed window of opportunity due to tentativeness can serve to dampen attraction. Another thought on this is that it does not matter what a woman does (like touching her hair), as long as the woman is being friendly toward the PUA.

Alternately, a window can be playfully skirted or even ignored to build tension, providing emotional space in which people can feel comfortable and unpressured. To calibrate interest from a woman, one can ask the AIA question: "Am I Interested". If the woman is, the player can calibrate accordingly and escalate touching and logistics

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Yes. AI. That's why I call this pre-approach method pAImAI. You are
essentially a male using a female tactic. A lot of men might do this
naturally, but the difference is in the conscious control of what's going on,
actually acting on the situation, paying attention for AIs and IOIs,
capitalizing, and having full confidence to not care if she knows you're
checking her out.

This is also the very frame which allows compliments to work VERY well versus
trying to compliment a chick out of the blue.

Why does this work so well? Because it is the accumulation of initial actions
taken by what most women perceive as a REAL MAN. It minimizes the importance
of your looks, status, and other external factors, and creates a display of
ultimate masculinity. You are a selective man of action.


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what Im getting is not IOIs itself its called Appraoch invitation.or warm appraoch.


A warm approach is a blanket term used to refer to any approach that is not a cold approach on a complete stranger. Usually, this takes place during social circle game, where both the PUA and the girl have a mutual friend in common. That commonality is usually enough to break the ice, and make starting a conversation and a relationship with her a lot easier than if the PUA had just run into her in the street.

A warm approach can also be used to refer to when a pick up artist reopens a set that he already previously opened, and left on a positive note. For example, using the technique of short setting, a pick up artist may very quickly meet and talk to everyone in a venue. Even though the PUA is only able to give a brief introduction of himself in that time, just that little bit of a connection is usually enough to make the PUA’s next approach a warmer one.

PUAs also use the term “warm approach” to refer to easy approaches. In this context, a warm approach can mean approaching a girl who is throwing out heavy IOIs, or approaching someone in a situation where the pickup artist is heavily social proofed. A warm approach in these cases is an easy approach on someone who is at least somewhat interested, rather than an approach on a stranger who hasn’t shown the slightest bit of interest.

Usage:

This is a house party that my friend is throwing so there will be a lot of warm approaches
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magic bullets:
Before you open
Watch what you do before you open. Many women will notice you, consciously or subconsciously, before
you even approach them. Do things to create an impression that you are a social, successful, high-status
man.
Watch for Approach Invitations: Very little of what women do in social gatherings is random. When a group
of women stops in a specific place, there’s often a reason. And that reason is often a nearby man doing
some of the things listed in Before You Open Checklist on the previous page. They want you to approach
them. Similarly, a woman who makes repeated eye contact with you is likely inviting you to start a conversation
with her. In this situation, use a higher risk/reward opener like No Opener, Screening, or Direct,
since there is less need to try to fly “under the radar”.


Don’t let other men touch you without responding. Men invading other men’s personal space is
a sign of dominance. This is very attractive to women. A study last year showed that women are three
to four times more likely to seek to make eye contact with men (i.e., “approach invitations”, see Chapter
5) who express this sort of dominance over other men than they do with men who do not.

Good looks can also give you more approach invitations (see Chapter 5), and give you more freedom overall
to make mistakes. So you may as well do everything you can to improve them. We certainly do. But don’t
expect this to change your life.

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Get Plenty Of Women By Opening A Conversation On Approach Invitation
by Franco



This is probably the easiest way of doing pickup.

Opening a conversation with a woman on her approach invitation.

An approach invitation (AI) is something spontaneous and very often unconscious women do.

It implies the message: ”Please notice me, please talk to me.”

It is easy because all what you need to do is to slow down your pace, observe the environment and then open the conversation.

Approach invitations are:

- She looks at you and turns her head in the other direction rapidly.
- She smiles lightly to you, makes eye contact with you and then rapidly turns her head in the other direction.
- She walks close to you and if you change your place she is ”as for a case” again close to you.
- Playing nervously with her hand bag or other stuff she has in her hands
- Searching the content of her hand bag while close to you.
- Dropping stuff on the floor, while close to you.
- While walking she looks at you rapidly and then looks back.
- You walk by and she laughs louder while chatting with her girlfriends.
- She looks at her nails or checks the make up in her small mirror while you get close to her.
- Playing with her mobile when close to you, clearly without any intention of calling anyone.

What is crucial when you open in this way is the time between her approach invitation and the moment you open the conversation.

You have only a few seconds to open. If you wait too long you lost your chance.

Women are chased all the time by guys.

Realize that by doing this she is already making a big exception to what would be her average behavior in everyday life.

After a few seconds she will get rapidly into her ”I-am-not-a-slut” mode and you will lose your chance.

If you lose your chance because you are too slow to respond remember that it is always easier to open another woman who gives you an AI than persisting with the former.

Why women have their Ais last such a short time?

There are a few reasons:

- Other women can read their Ais much better than the average guy without experience with females. They would label her as a slut and ostracize her if she would do that ”too much.”

- Giving too overt Ais on the streets and other public venues would put women into danger: there are aggressive, dangerous men out there!

So she gives you her AI for a few seconds and then withdraws it.

That is your window of opportunity: it is a very fast, short message that she likes you and wants you to talk to her.

That is all what the average woman can do to break the social code.

Then it’s up to you.

Beware: some women nowadays began to approach men overtly in a very direct way. Those women are not the women of the best quality: they are the masculine dominant women who have learned to "match" male behavior.

In my book Getting the good girls it is described how to detect them fast and avoid them even faster.

You better approach the women who give you AIs. They are usually the best and most feminine ones! Better quality women.

When you see an AI quickly respond on it.

When she gives very subtle AIs better to approach her with some indirect opener.

Asking innocently a favor is something which works very well for me: it ”saves her face” after she gave the AI and makes her feel more comfortable.

For example:

Her: (looking at you and rapidly turning her head)
You: (slowing down and going to her side) ”Hey, I just came to town and looking for this restaurant, any idea where it could be?”

In the case her AI is more open, more direct you can get straight to the point:

Her: (smiling at you or laughing louder when you pass by)
You: Nice smile. You look just like my little sister. I bet you won the lottery today.

And then it is the time to engage her into a conversation.

One important thing: to notice Ais you need to slow down your pace. So walk slowly and be aware of the surroundings.

If you walk too fast you will not notice the Ais.

Awareness and speed are the crucial skills you need to start conversations

Another important thing is to be able to recognize the ”soft signs” of her horniness which I shared with you in the Manual of Seduction.


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> Asked a HB I know about this and she said "I DO IT ALL THE TIME!!!!" -
> so chicks stalk guys as well (lol)
> ...

Yeah, I call this the "Approach Invitation" (AI), it's not really
"stalking". I mentioned a while back that I would post about it. I
guess I forgot to. Here it is.

First, to differentiate, there is a big difference between AI and
peacocking. One is for attracting the attention of a specific guy, the
other is to attract the attention of as many guys as possible.

When out doing PU with wings one day, I realized something that just
makes total sense and field-tested it many times since then. I
remembered something I heard once that chicks sometimes think they've
been "approaching" guys all day long and by the end of the day feel
totally rejected because none of those guys responded. The stupidity of
the situation (chick logic) is that what she thought was an approach,
was so far under the radar of what guys consider a "signal" or "sign"
that none of them have the nerve to approach (unless she's an HB and
runs into a PUA in which case she'll get approached, making that PUA
even more unique, and reaffirming the skills we're all trying to
learn). Chicks will do that kind of "approaching" consciously when
actively looking for a man, but a lot of the time they'll do the same
exact things UNCONSCIOUSLY when finding a man is a real desire but not
at the forefront of their mind.

OK, let me explain. Say all of a sudden men & women reversed roles and
men still had the same horniness but for some fucked up reason aren't
allowed to utter a word or be blatant or direct about how they meet &
attract women. Say you're a PUA and someone told you that you had to go
PU chicks (consciously or unconsciously) without initiating the
conversations, without initiating kino, without the ability to
*communicate* on those levels unless a chick strikes up a convo with you
first. Also, you're not allowed to go to bars or clubs to do PU because
there will be conflicts between AI and peacocking (confused signals -
very inefficient). What would you do? Shit, you're horny as hell,
you've got to do something! Well, first you would pick public places to
go that are bound to have lots of people which are constantly recycling,
a place where topics for conversation are plentiful, and places where
interesting and available chicks might go. Then, you would do subtle
things around them which would attempt to get their attention, just
enough to get an initial comment or reaction - your open door. Now you
know what it's like when chicks are on the "hunt" (again, consciously or
unconsciously). This is how chicks do their PU. It's a lot like how
AFCs try to do PU. They don't (LOL) although they think they're doing
all they can (which they aren't).

Now that's explained, roles are now back to what you know them to be...

You're in a bookstore and an HB walks up and stands near you and at that
moment starts making a fuss to dig through her huge sack called a
"purse" to dig out a scarf and keeps making a lot of commotion to put
the scarf on, fix her hair, whatever. That's an AI. The beauty of an
AI is that it *creates* your opener FOR you - you no longer have to
worry about WHAT to say to open with a chick. In that situation, all
you've got to say is: "Interesting scarf" or "That's a huge bag" or
"Hi". You are 10x more likely to get a positive response from an AI
situation than a cold approach using either a canned opener or coming up
with something interesting while initiating conversation. It could be
ANY number of things to get your attention that in most circumstances
are out of the norm of the normal pace of life. She decides to tie her
sneakers in front of you. She gives you EC and smiles. She asks people
around her stupid questions. She says something really dorky out loud
to her friend, easily overheard by you. She seems to stall in the areas
you're standing. She starts tapping her fingers on a surface near you.
She drops something near you, pretends to be interested in something
near you, ... YOU GET THE POINT!!

Here's where it gets better (related somewhat to Mystery's AWARE
state). When you go out to do PU, start off with a couple "warm up" PUs
where the outcome is totally meaningless to you. Yeah, the first couple
of the day tend to be tougher because you're "cold" and need to "warm
up". After those 2 are done, you will be in a different mental state, a
state where adrenaline is now circulating your system, you are more
aware of your surroundings, and you can pick out details and notice
things you didn't notice before. All of a sudden you start to SEE all
these AIs constantly flowing around you. Just pay attention. Then open
on the next AI you see from an HB that interests you. More adrenaline.
More awareness. Better PUs. Better responses. It snowballs. Once you
get on a roll for the day, you'll find yourself not only approaching
tons more women than you would have before, but most of them give you
good responses, and most of the time your openers are DECIDED FOR YOU!

Now, here's why I kept mentioning that a lot of the time chicks do this
unconsciously: If they unconsciously give you an AI, they are
unconsciously interested in you in some way but have not yet consciously
noticed you (which is still good!). When you open with their AI, and a
conversation "just happens", they will start seeing it like it was
"magic" or "meant to be". That comes from all the trashy romance novels
they read. You have to differentiate quickly between a conscious AI and
an unconscious one so that you can understand the perspective of the
chick who's giving it (actively being horny/excitable, unconsciously
being romance-oriented).

So, knowing this very small detail about chicks, and knowing all it
takes is just a couple initial "warm up" approaches at the beginning of
a PU session, you have the key to being able to approach dozens of HBs
per day with greater ease than approaching just a few without this
knowledge. It almost gets to the point where you forget what you are
doing consciously and can't remember (post-PU) how you even opened with
her, you will just remember saying SOMETHING which sparked a
conversation and eventually lead to a #/@ close. I believe that
"naturals" are constantly in this state which is why most of them can't
teach other guys how to do it. They KNOW how to do it but can't EXPLAIN
it.

Of course, none of this info really helps you with other skills
(carrying a convo, kino, pacing, leading, closing) but it DOES help you
approach a ton more HBs and not miss opportunities that surround you all
day long. Approaching a ton more HBs will help you build those other
skills faster. As my PUA friend Danny used to always say: "Repetition
builds speed and accuracy."

Rue wrote:

> Greetings. I am a bi chick spying on your newsgroup. It seems to me
> that these methods you speak of might work with girl-girl encounters.
> It seems worth a try in any case. I will report.

That would be interesting, yes.

> A note from the hetro side of my life. So many times I have been
> hanging out with a guy and thinking to myself "How much more obvious
> do I have to make it I want to get in your pants. Make a move, damn
> you". And they don't.

That's understandable, given thet most guys, even when they see a
"signal", scare themselves away from making a more commited move.

> One doesn't want to look to sluttish because
> that turns some people off.

We understand this about what goes on in a chick's mind as to why you
would not make the most forward move yourself (passiveness, ASD, etc.).
However, what I am particularly interested in is the gap of what men
consider an advancing move and what women consider an advancing move.
Meaning, can you give a few (clear) examples of how you felt you were
being direct and the guys didn't seemed to pick up on this? Also, when
you got to points like that, what went through your mind to try to be
more direct/blunt but you ended up holding back? or how about the times
you didn't hold back and what got you to make that move? Did it end up
working or did the guys still remain clueless and/or scared?

> I think guys miss thousands of
> opportunities to get laid just by not being aware of when a woman
> wants them.

Have you read any of my posts on AI (Approach Invitation)? This is very
related. It seems like the gap is bridged when a woman becomes just a
slight bit more noticable in her intent (rather than being completely
passive when the guy initiates out of the blue) and the man is at least
just a slight bit more aware of an AI. I've been recently studying a
means to propel a chick to provide an AI, watch for the AI, then follow
through after that initiation to move forward with the PU.
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AI (Approach Invitation) info is not in the guide yet, but do a search for a
few posts by me sometime after May of '01. It's a combination of observation
which is enhanced by warm-up and leading that observation into simplified PU.
If you understand AI right, the number of potential approaches you can make
will increase 10x on any given day (assuming you actually go to places with
lots of HBs and lots of turnover - like downtown in a busy city or in a big
mall).

Beyond AI, I've also been working on something I've been calling pAImAI among
my wings. Pre-AI male AI. It's sort of a method of culling AIs from chicks,
essentially creating a situation for them where they MUST initiate an AI for
you if they are interested even in the smallest way.

Imagine walking into a large bookstore chock full of targets and picking out a
specific chick (the one you WANT) and doing stuff that will basically cause an
AI to get initiated by her, which basically creates the easiest and best opener
for her, handed to you on a silver platter. And it's all under-the-radar to
her. You get your opener. She thinks it's unique. Your meeting becomes
"chance"-centric and it becomes a lot easier to manage the PU.

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If this works for you, I say stick with it. You might be able to enhance it by
having a wing hang back at a safe distance and somehow signal to you
non-verbally that she did, in fact, check you out. But I would say that's
unnecessary because that's coming from a frame of need that you want her to
check you out. I would say who cares. If you KNOW she realizes she's being
checked out yet stays put, that's all you need to know to presume high interest
on her end. I was just listening to the first 2 CDs from the Double Your
Dating audio course (review copy - will post a review soon) and was reminded of
something important David said a few times at the LA seminar - (paraphrased)
"Who cares what the chick's opinion of you is, you progress with what you want
regardless."

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Right - one of my wings calls this "telegraphing [intent]." Sometimes it's bad
to telegraph intent - hovering, thinking nervously before approaching, etc.
But, if you telegraph in a CONFIDENT way, and she doesn't find a way to slip
away from you somehow before the approach, it's like she's giving an IOI right
there, effectively saying "approach me." it established a base of total
control for you because she's already accepted your presence, is receptive to
being approached, and not likely to be "surprised" when an opening is
initiated.

You guys out there reading this right now, PAY ATTENTION. This is better than
gold.

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Yes, I do the same thing these days as well. I guess it could be called
"remote Gunwitch, pre-approach". For example, in a bookstore I was blatantly
checking out a hot/classy-dressed Chinese chick by herself while she was
looking at books in the law section. I was in a bookstore, yet not buying
books or even browsing. I was just leaning up against a small table at the end
of the aisle BLATANTLY checking her out for 2-3 minutes while she browsed books
before I approached. I felt like a panther ready to pounce. She didn't shy
away or move to a different aisle, so I walked up to her and STILL waited a
brief second for her to reciprocate EC and I said, "Hi, You look intent on
finding a certain book." Her: (smiling) "blah blah". My response (roughly)
was, "You know, I couldn't help noticing how intently you've been looking for
something in particular. I also was noticing that you have a very attractive
figure (looking at her from top to bottom)... actually, I couldn't take my eyes
off you." She took the complement well. I chatted with her for 2-3 minutes
(fluff), then took her to the coffee area in the bookstore, initiated kino
while at a small table (Maniac style), then extracted her from the bookstore to
grab Sushi and progress towards a same-day close. For the record, I didn't
actually close her the same day, but the newbs should pay attention to the
progression and how this played out in the context of my having total control
from the very beginning by gauging interest non-verbally and setting up a
pre-condition of acceptance and a platform for her to initiate her own AI (or
IOIs, whatever). I call this pre-conditioning pAImAI (pre-AI male AI)... I'll
be getting more into it while I write that e-book I keep talking about.

Anyway, some newbies might be saying "But wait, you COULD have gotten the same
result if you still approached quickly with a "Hi" regardless of getting EC
from her first, following the 3s rule, etc, etc. Sure, and I could win the
lottery today as well. And here's the thing I left out of the above situation:
I was hanging out with a couple of wings that day and one of them approached
her using that no-EC method - 3s, fast "Hi", and crashed even before the fluff
stage. She wasn't there to be *chatted up*, she was there to be *picked up*.
Or not. But that's the frame I used. Both of us had approached her solo while
the other guy wasn't around (both utilizing lone wolf context) and the other
guy is better looking than me. So, I would say this is a very scientific
example of why one method is superior to another, even though the weaker method
might work sometimes and the superior method might fail sometimes.

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