RUN SOLID TEXT BOOK GAME
Dude theres this saying by mae west
"when a woman goes wrong men go right after"
control your urges of calling her find a hobby, dont jerk off 24-7
hard to get pumps her to meet up dont be too avail or too easy
dont respond to her texts too eagerly
Thursday, April 30, 2009
Wednesday, April 29, 2009
FR: comedy night then after lost a BJ chance
I opened several girls got AI from 3 girls.. I needed a wing
I have the closer and suave locked down.
I also have to work on social circle game opner
NEVER OPEN DIRECT IN A SOCIAL SETTING!
social opner is ok or questions transition to social mode run fluff then break rapport
BT spiking review
I'm looking for a female wing
I almost missed a late night Mcdonalds close,
I seeded the opener ,
transition to late night snacks
then eye contact and i noticed she was subtle but sexual
tell her Ive havent seen her around if she is from here...
she says she comes home from work late ....hmmm
those type of chicks are cock hungry , i recognize
my order takes longer and i try to catch uo with her to prepare the discrete invitation...but too late
I have the closer and suave locked down.
I also have to work on social circle game opner
NEVER OPEN DIRECT IN A SOCIAL SETTING!
social opner is ok or questions transition to social mode run fluff then break rapport
BT spiking review
I'm looking for a female wing
I almost missed a late night Mcdonalds close,
I seeded the opener ,
transition to late night snacks
then eye contact and i noticed she was subtle but sexual
tell her Ive havent seen her around if she is from here...
she says she comes home from work late ....hmmm
those type of chicks are cock hungry , i recognize
my order takes longer and i try to catch uo with her to prepare the discrete invitation...but too late
Sex Appeal: Tips to Get It
Sex Appeal: Tips to Get ItBy Patty Lamberti
You don't need to look like Gwyneth Paltrow or Brad Pitt to be sexy.
Anyone can send off sexy vibes by following these tips:
Dress to suit your figure.
Just because you may be overweight or have large hips doesn't mean you can't be sexy. Wear outfits that minimize the negative features of your body. If you don't know what outfits work for you, most lifestyle magazines provide tips.
Don't act desperate.
There's nothing less sexy than a person who's clearly needy. Act like you could live with or without a lover. The sexiest people are the most independent ones.
Learn how to flirt.
Too many people think flirting is throwing themselves at someone. The key to flirtation is subtlety. A raised eyebrow and a coy smile go a lot further than introducing yourself drunkenly.
Think you're sexy.
Before anyone's going to think you're sexy, you have to believe you're sexy. Learn to love your own body - fat rolls and all - and others will love it too. Confidence is sexier than D cups.
Don't focus on your looks alone.
Don't let thoughts about your sex appeal consume you. Work on your personality more. Sex appeal should be like a good perfume - it emanates from you, but doesn't overwhelm you
You don't need to look like Gwyneth Paltrow or Brad Pitt to be sexy.
Anyone can send off sexy vibes by following these tips:
Dress to suit your figure.
Just because you may be overweight or have large hips doesn't mean you can't be sexy. Wear outfits that minimize the negative features of your body. If you don't know what outfits work for you, most lifestyle magazines provide tips.
Don't act desperate.
There's nothing less sexy than a person who's clearly needy. Act like you could live with or without a lover. The sexiest people are the most independent ones.
Learn how to flirt.
Too many people think flirting is throwing themselves at someone. The key to flirtation is subtlety. A raised eyebrow and a coy smile go a lot further than introducing yourself drunkenly.
Think you're sexy.
Before anyone's going to think you're sexy, you have to believe you're sexy. Learn to love your own body - fat rolls and all - and others will love it too. Confidence is sexier than D cups.
Don't focus on your looks alone.
Don't let thoughts about your sex appeal consume you. Work on your personality more. Sex appeal should be like a good perfume - it emanates from you, but doesn't overwhelm you
Tuesday, April 28, 2009
RIP minHBblondie
I wantd to bury the hatchett on the waitress which Ive been communicating thru text. my problem sticking point was communication.
the truth is Ive been busy but its an excuse to deeper sticking points of when you escalate.
it always cool to have her invested more than you worked more than you.
being genuine and funny while teasing all same time...
too many things I got away with...
Im focus on 10 day positivty challenge
gym
styleflife challenge
to be continued....
COMMENTS:
Sinn says :
the set is blown, she is validating herself using you.knowing you are the guy that will rush into her,you projected sexual needyness.
the Pirate KinG says:
I think you did things right. If she is sending booty call texts at 3am then you take your shot, that's ok. She changed her mind or whatever. You can't have a 100% close rate. Go out and keep gaming. Don't let anything faze you. Go out to get better and better, focus on improving a little bit each time.
CJ
J Smooth says:
Yeah it sounds like you are in the place of an orbiter where she is just trying to sit back and pull strings like a puppeteer or something. I wouldn't mess with her anymore.
http://www.entropypua.com/blog/rejection-he-who-gets-rejected-gets-laid
the truth is Ive been busy but its an excuse to deeper sticking points of when you escalate.
it always cool to have her invested more than you worked more than you.
being genuine and funny while teasing all same time...
too many things I got away with...
Im focus on 10 day positivty challenge
gym
styleflife challenge
to be continued....
COMMENTS:
Sinn says :
the set is blown, she is validating herself using you.knowing you are the guy that will rush into her,you projected sexual needyness.
the Pirate KinG says:
I think you did things right. If she is sending booty call texts at 3am then you take your shot, that's ok. She changed her mind or whatever. You can't have a 100% close rate. Go out and keep gaming. Don't let anything faze you. Go out to get better and better, focus on improving a little bit each time.
CJ
J Smooth says:
Yeah it sounds like you are in the place of an orbiter where she is just trying to sit back and pull strings like a puppeteer or something. I wouldn't mess with her anymore.
http://www.entropypua.com/blog/rejection-he-who-gets-rejected-gets-laid
Sunday, April 26, 2009
no bullshit appraoch when and frame control
vicky christina barcelona
woman's sexual worthy man
I love it ..Im modeling this man but Im going to smile more than him...his frame thought is awesome.
woman's sexual worthy man
I love it ..Im modeling this man but Im going to smile more than him...his frame thought is awesome.
RIP instadate
Ok breakdown of mistakes are :
No timebridge
I had to end the interaction
daygame or a solid instadate past comfort no need to overthink text game
theres alot of guys that use text game to cover up missing pieces and get all wraped up trying to learn newest stuff...
the opener of text is important the rest isnt.
phone call is always more solid ..like i said aga is importaqnt and category entropy has to personalized your game.
A phone call is more solid and push forward....
Im going to practice phone game feeling comfortable talking to women:
Phone game excersize: Call up Hookers want and be subtle about asking whats up
the more you are subtle verbals and convey sexy confident then you are good...
Phone game dont have to be too dancing monkey or entertainer guy....
fluff and qualify at high point meet up...
Whatever happens just focus a it as an experience not a personal issue...remember that some girls have issues...
and being direct and polite doesnt takewaway your alphaness :)
I wasnt congruent...
COMENTS:
Sinn says:
YOU demostrated needyness again asking here what she is doing later in daygame... projects that you got nothing going on in your life
Entorpy:
Thats the thing about good comfort and connection game man, she doesn't just feel it, YOU DO TOO! It's a great feeling.
The way to stay non-needy is to remember that you can feel these emotions with most women, so even though she's awesome, there's nothing particularly unique about this situation. You can recreate these emotions time and time again.
As far as her being gamey... I'd just be direct and polite. Say,
"I want to see you again, we should meet up," You never know.
She may have a very busy life or be in the middle of a ton of stuff this week. You never know. So don't read too much into it.
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She doesnt respond she isnt interested, if he keeps on then its annoying -
marina coach pua training
No timebridge
I had to end the interaction
daygame or a solid instadate past comfort no need to overthink text game
theres alot of guys that use text game to cover up missing pieces and get all wraped up trying to learn newest stuff...
the opener of text is important the rest isnt.
phone call is always more solid ..like i said aga is importaqnt and category entropy has to personalized your game.
A phone call is more solid and push forward....
Im going to practice phone game feeling comfortable talking to women:
Phone game excersize: Call up Hookers want and be subtle about asking whats up
the more you are subtle verbals and convey sexy confident then you are good...
Phone game dont have to be too dancing monkey or entertainer guy....
fluff and qualify at high point meet up...
Whatever happens just focus a it as an experience not a personal issue...remember that some girls have issues...
and being direct and polite doesnt takewaway your alphaness :)
I wasnt congruent...
COMENTS:
Sinn says:
YOU demostrated needyness again asking here what she is doing later in daygame... projects that you got nothing going on in your life
Entorpy:
Thats the thing about good comfort and connection game man, she doesn't just feel it, YOU DO TOO! It's a great feeling.
The way to stay non-needy is to remember that you can feel these emotions with most women, so even though she's awesome, there's nothing particularly unique about this situation. You can recreate these emotions time and time again.
As far as her being gamey... I'd just be direct and polite. Say,
"I want to see you again, we should meet up," You never know.
She may have a very busy life or be in the middle of a ton of stuff this week. You never know. So don't read too much into it.
----
She doesnt respond she isnt interested, if he keeps on then its annoying -
marina coach pua training
Saturday, April 25, 2009
quick notes
I was reading some intreresting stuff cause at times I think well I shouldnt call her cause I come off "too needy".
New Rule wait 2 days to call her.
Sinn posted some points that I have thought of but never looked in to:
.... At first. But she finds herself wanting more and more.
This is the power of unavailability.
I'm not promoting being unavailable for the sake of creating more attraction, while you sit at home alone jacking it and eating pizza.
Instead I'm suggesting that you actually get busy doing something that has nothing to do with picking up girls. Maybe you've always wanted to write a novel.
Start writing every day.
Maybe you've always wanted to learn a language or run a marathon, now's the time! The more of a life you have, the easier it is not to be needy.
It's much easier to keep from calling girls too much,
when your alternative option for that evening is not a night of "solo sarging". And yes, I'm telling everyone who doesn't have one to get a life!
To his credit Richard does tell Samantha he's not the monogamous type. You can tell girls you're not looking for a relationship. This is part of the power of the community to me. You don't have to pretend that you are faithful to a girl you're not faithful to. I'm a big believer in doing rather than saying, but when push comes to shove, I always tell girls I'm not looking to jump into a relationship or be monogamous. Remember lying to girls about what you want in a relationship, just to get in their pants will almost always backfire! Trust me, I used to do it :)
Richard also pulls out the moves of seduction. He pursues Samantha in a romantic way only AFTER he's slept with her. This is key, girls do like romantic things, but only AFTER they've slept with you. In the beginning it comes off needy, weak and places you int the provider frame. But once you've slept with her, you can do sweet, romantic things for girls like rooftop swimming and champagne :) Just don't do too early.
Ultimately though Richard made a mistake that many guys in the community often make. They tell girls they're monogamous and then they fuck around on the side. It's a really bad idea. First it causes drama. As someone who has had to deal with some weird annoying situations because he was dishonest about how many girls I was seeing, don't do it! You don't want to deal with broken windows, guys trying to kick your ass, girls throwing drinks on you, or in my and Richard Wright's case girls papering your neighborhood with signs that you're a player. If you tell a girl you're monogamous, you need to be monogamous. Or don't commit. It's not that hard. You just have to be honest. One of the GREATEST things I've learned in the community is that you don't have to pretend to be a girl's BF to get her in bed and keep her there. Richard doesn't do this, and Samantha walks in on him going down on another girl. They break up.
Unfortunately much like in the real world, people on Sex and The City rarely stay broken up. After Samantha throws a drink in his face,and papers his neighborhood. She takes Richard back. But she's now paranoid about Richard cheating. This why cheating is a problem. Emotional integrity,and honesty are major parts of both attraction and connection. You have to do what you say you're going to do or you break trust and you compromise your emotional integrity. After trust is broken a relationship can't stand. And so Samantha breaks up with him before she can get too badly hurt. Which is a good idea for both parties. If you see a likely situation where you might get emotionally wrecked, it's not a bad idea to get out of that situation. You don't have to go through a lot of emotional pain unnecessarily. It's not a part of the relationship cycle.
So ultimately all of the good of Richard Wright is undone by his breach of trust. That's actually a good lesson. When it comes to women, you can lie your way into their pants. You can say you're a movie producer, or a rock star, or a millionaire. You can tell women you're going to whisk them away on a vacation to the caymen islands. Or tell them you're going to be getting a house in Hibiscus Island or a Ferrari. But ultimately when you lie to women, you will eventually get caught, and you will have to deal with the consequences. Furthermore, you don't need to lie to girls to get them into bed or a variety of different kinds of relationships.
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New Rule wait 2 days to call her.
Sinn posted some points that I have thought of but never looked in to:
.... At first. But she finds herself wanting more and more.
This is the power of unavailability.
I'm not promoting being unavailable for the sake of creating more attraction, while you sit at home alone jacking it and eating pizza.
Instead I'm suggesting that you actually get busy doing something that has nothing to do with picking up girls. Maybe you've always wanted to write a novel.
Start writing every day.
Maybe you've always wanted to learn a language or run a marathon, now's the time! The more of a life you have, the easier it is not to be needy.
It's much easier to keep from calling girls too much,
when your alternative option for that evening is not a night of "solo sarging". And yes, I'm telling everyone who doesn't have one to get a life!
To his credit Richard does tell Samantha he's not the monogamous type. You can tell girls you're not looking for a relationship. This is part of the power of the community to me. You don't have to pretend that you are faithful to a girl you're not faithful to. I'm a big believer in doing rather than saying, but when push comes to shove, I always tell girls I'm not looking to jump into a relationship or be monogamous. Remember lying to girls about what you want in a relationship, just to get in their pants will almost always backfire! Trust me, I used to do it :)
Richard also pulls out the moves of seduction. He pursues Samantha in a romantic way only AFTER he's slept with her. This is key, girls do like romantic things, but only AFTER they've slept with you. In the beginning it comes off needy, weak and places you int the provider frame. But once you've slept with her, you can do sweet, romantic things for girls like rooftop swimming and champagne :) Just don't do too early.
Ultimately though Richard made a mistake that many guys in the community often make. They tell girls they're monogamous and then they fuck around on the side. It's a really bad idea. First it causes drama. As someone who has had to deal with some weird annoying situations because he was dishonest about how many girls I was seeing, don't do it! You don't want to deal with broken windows, guys trying to kick your ass, girls throwing drinks on you, or in my and Richard Wright's case girls papering your neighborhood with signs that you're a player. If you tell a girl you're monogamous, you need to be monogamous. Or don't commit. It's not that hard. You just have to be honest. One of the GREATEST things I've learned in the community is that you don't have to pretend to be a girl's BF to get her in bed and keep her there. Richard doesn't do this, and Samantha walks in on him going down on another girl. They break up.
Unfortunately much like in the real world, people on Sex and The City rarely stay broken up. After Samantha throws a drink in his face,and papers his neighborhood. She takes Richard back. But she's now paranoid about Richard cheating. This why cheating is a problem. Emotional integrity,and honesty are major parts of both attraction and connection. You have to do what you say you're going to do or you break trust and you compromise your emotional integrity. After trust is broken a relationship can't stand. And so Samantha breaks up with him before she can get too badly hurt. Which is a good idea for both parties. If you see a likely situation where you might get emotionally wrecked, it's not a bad idea to get out of that situation. You don't have to go through a lot of emotional pain unnecessarily. It's not a part of the relationship cycle.
So ultimately all of the good of Richard Wright is undone by his breach of trust. That's actually a good lesson. When it comes to women, you can lie your way into their pants. You can say you're a movie producer, or a rock star, or a millionaire. You can tell women you're going to whisk them away on a vacation to the caymen islands. Or tell them you're going to be getting a house in Hibiscus Island or a Ferrari. But ultimately when you lie to women, you will eventually get caught, and you will have to deal with the consequences. Furthermore, you don't need to lie to girls to get them into bed or a variety of different kinds of relationships.
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Friday, April 24, 2009
Improv is fun muscle-reviewing my interactions with banter
Im going to Improv wednesday nights 6pm
friday 6pm
saturday class at 3-6pm
Im losing my funny touch .
when I banter back Im making it seem awkward needs calibration.
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hey FLAKE LoL...
Im leaving to nyc and boston. If you were to be the sexy doctor in a porn movie and I was your patient .... Id be dead right now LOL ; )
yeah I cant deal with "deleters"
LOL
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Hey any
whats up!
are you shy ?
Im still in nyc, I love it you should come...I have an apt.Im working out on jiu jitsu and kickboxing..and I love o go out so you wont be bored silly
you are from miami originally right? I love it ! but now here in nyc wrather is beautiful windy and chill not hot...good for a walk by the park ..what stuff you like to do when you arent in school or working?
i gave you my numbr and you are a text flake!
you dont * ing text and you got my number! are you a blonde?! LoL.
listen babe email me ok any ..I have stalker chicks from this site and its annoying me...I might bust outta here.
talk to you soon bunny ; )....un beso
S
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friday 6pm
saturday class at 3-6pm
Im losing my funny touch .
when I banter back Im making it seem awkward needs calibration.
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hey FLAKE LoL...
Im leaving to nyc and boston. If you were to be the sexy doctor in a porn movie and I was your patient .... Id be dead right now LOL ; )
yeah I cant deal with "deleters"
LOL
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Hey any
whats up!
are you shy ?
Im still in nyc, I love it you should come...I have an apt.Im working out on jiu jitsu and kickboxing..and I love o go out so you wont be bored silly
you are from miami originally right? I love it ! but now here in nyc wrather is beautiful windy and chill not hot...good for a walk by the park ..what stuff you like to do when you arent in school or working?
i gave you my numbr and you are a text flake!
you dont * ing text and you got my number! are you a blonde?! LoL.
listen babe email me ok any ..I have stalker chicks from this site and its annoying me...I might bust outta here.
talk to you soon bunny ; )....un beso
S
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The 4 Fastest Ways to Turn Her Off - by Doc Holliday
I read this every time I go out its my personal cheat sheet when I dont know what to do..either be an asshole or cool...
Hey man,
A lot is always said about what to do to turn a girl ON, but how do you know when you're turning her off? We compiled this short little list so you know when you're doing something wrong as well as when you do it right.
Ask yourself, are you doing any of these four things?
THE FOUR TOP TURNOFFS
(1) BEING TOO NICE
Being nice is... well... nice, but being TOO NICE will only convince her you are needy, desperate, lonely, unconfident, timid, have low self-esteem, and possibly are just trying to manipulate her by only telling her what she wants to hear. You will neither win the love and respect of women, nor an invitation into their bedroom, by being Mr. Nice Guy.
She must be more emotionally committed than you at all times. This means never do anything needy or self-sacrificing. For example: don't call her too much, don't lavish her with gifts, don't be the first to bring up your feelings or talk about commitment. Just relax and exude the idea that she's trying to win you over, no matter how much you like her.
(2) BEING TOO EASY
Similar to the first one, way too many dudes don't make a girl EARN their attention and affection. If a woman does not have to earn your love and respect, but you just give it away for nothing, she will view it as valueless. Why else would it be free? If you are a desirable guy that is in demand with the ladies, then your adoration and devotion will not come cheap.
Another way of understanding this concept: people do not value anything that is free or very cheap. They waste it or take it for granted. Modern marketing has conditioned people to base quality on price.
So what does that mean for you? Be expensive! Don't come free or easy.
(3) BEING TOO PREDICTABLE
Girls need excitement to stir up their emotions. For most people, both men and women, their love life is their primary (if not only) source of excitement, adventure, and passion. It is not their friends, their work, or their hobbies.
Stop being so conservative and predictable, acting the same way as any other guy, saying the same things, taking them to the same places, and generally just being another guy in her phone book. Surprise her, startle her, confuse her, perhaps even occasionally offend her, but in a fun and playful style.
If you do the same thing every other guy has done, she'll treat you the same way she treated all of the other guys: by not calling you back.
4) BEING TOO INSENSITIVE
This is a warning! Way too many men read about being too nice, easy, and predictable then take it to a destructive extreme. They become an arrogant, cruel ass that treats women like dirt. Sure, women do not like "nice guys", but they like “assholes” even less. If you're going to be a jerk, you need to be a love-able jerk.
Although you may be a troublemaker with funny practical jokes and pursuit of shallow pleasures; ultimately, be a decent human being. This is true of all “bad boys” you will find on television, the big screen, or in a romance novel. They are rough on the surface, but a diamond hidden just beneath. If you convince women that you are crap all the way to your core, they will value you as such.
Hey man,
A lot is always said about what to do to turn a girl ON, but how do you know when you're turning her off? We compiled this short little list so you know when you're doing something wrong as well as when you do it right.
Ask yourself, are you doing any of these four things?
THE FOUR TOP TURNOFFS
(1) BEING TOO NICE
Being nice is... well... nice, but being TOO NICE will only convince her you are needy, desperate, lonely, unconfident, timid, have low self-esteem, and possibly are just trying to manipulate her by only telling her what she wants to hear. You will neither win the love and respect of women, nor an invitation into their bedroom, by being Mr. Nice Guy.
She must be more emotionally committed than you at all times. This means never do anything needy or self-sacrificing. For example: don't call her too much, don't lavish her with gifts, don't be the first to bring up your feelings or talk about commitment. Just relax and exude the idea that she's trying to win you over, no matter how much you like her.
(2) BEING TOO EASY
Similar to the first one, way too many dudes don't make a girl EARN their attention and affection. If a woman does not have to earn your love and respect, but you just give it away for nothing, she will view it as valueless. Why else would it be free? If you are a desirable guy that is in demand with the ladies, then your adoration and devotion will not come cheap.
Another way of understanding this concept: people do not value anything that is free or very cheap. They waste it or take it for granted. Modern marketing has conditioned people to base quality on price.
So what does that mean for you? Be expensive! Don't come free or easy.
(3) BEING TOO PREDICTABLE
Girls need excitement to stir up their emotions. For most people, both men and women, their love life is their primary (if not only) source of excitement, adventure, and passion. It is not their friends, their work, or their hobbies.
Stop being so conservative and predictable, acting the same way as any other guy, saying the same things, taking them to the same places, and generally just being another guy in her phone book. Surprise her, startle her, confuse her, perhaps even occasionally offend her, but in a fun and playful style.
If you do the same thing every other guy has done, she'll treat you the same way she treated all of the other guys: by not calling you back.
4) BEING TOO INSENSITIVE
This is a warning! Way too many men read about being too nice, easy, and predictable then take it to a destructive extreme. They become an arrogant, cruel ass that treats women like dirt. Sure, women do not like "nice guys", but they like “assholes” even less. If you're going to be a jerk, you need to be a love-able jerk.
Although you may be a troublemaker with funny practical jokes and pursuit of shallow pleasures; ultimately, be a decent human being. This is true of all “bad boys” you will find on television, the big screen, or in a romance novel. They are rough on the surface, but a diamond hidden just beneath. If you convince women that you are crap all the way to your core, they will value you as such.
Thursday, April 23, 2009
My textbook rules of Phone Game
These are some golden stuff from Sinn ,Doc Holliday and lastly Alex Rsd
SOLID material that should always be applied
I dont use sexual overtones too much unless she is first responding and its at night.
we dont want to seem eager or sexual needy or in girl terms "desperate".
we want to be fun ,
cooler than her,
busy and subtle
make her invest in the conversation than you
....and when she is playing hard to get trigger jealousy as last resort.
I always want to call the girl when you have Good comfort...
if not then text game is always good...text should be only transition to phone call meet up... theres a ladder as escalation to move things forward to lead...
I read tons of stuff but you can come off incongruent if you are too dancing monkey or funny guy on text, too sexual and trigger ASD....
Im Working on Solid GAME to get to another level once after 6 lays to learn advanced technique...that way you get more consistent results hence sucess.
ALSO age of woman is important,younger girl more text game for date
+25woman you want phone call.
call or text her at 9pm
first text dont ask her out
get compliance, responding to you.
I use funny story in convo then NLP patterns mixed with jokes timebridge ...
alot of fluff talk and use words like ",right?"
everytime she shit tests you hit her back with a more funny than cocky answer like a tease
use social pressure to meet up
Here it is:
Basics of Phone Game by Sinn
This time we're going to be going over Phone Game.
First you have to understand that the purpose of the phone is to
build comfort and get the girl to meet up.
You want to avoid having the following conversation:
You: "Hey Shelly, what's up it's Hank from the bar. How was your day? Wanna hang out?"
Instead we want to use the phone to go from being some guy she met at a Starbucks or a club, and start becoming a part of her day to day life.
Once you get a girl's phone number you want to ping a text message to it, to make sure she's going to respond.
I like to send the following text courtesy of my friend Debonair Dave.
" Hey girl's name, very important question, do you speak text?"
Once the girl responds you can be pretty sure she'll pick up the phone.
The basic structure of the first phone call should be: Callback Humor
- Use an inside joke or nickname to establish who you are.
Funny Story Commitment To The Call
- You want to make sure she's not multi-tasking Future Plans
- Start discussing the events you'll be going to this week. Set up plans with her.
You always want to get off the phone first. It may seem simple and juvenile, it really does help maintain your social power.
If you get an answering machine, you want to leave a short simple message. Something like this community classic courtesy of Hollywood.
" Hey, it's me. I'm in and out all night , but try to catch me. If not I'll talk to you later."
You never want to call or text more than once a day. It's also important that if you call, and don't get a callback, you don't text her. Don't try more than one form of communication a day without a response.
Lastly you want to make sure that you call all of your numbers.
A lot of guys go through the work of gathering a ton of phone numbers and then wuss out when it comes time to call them. Don't be one of those guys.
Instead pick a time EVERY day when you are going to work on your phone game and call all your numbers.
That's the basics of Phone Game folks,
Sinn
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Dead Phone Numbers
by Doc Holliday
Tags: Dates, Doc Holliday, Phone, Sinn
I get a lot of questions about what to do with dead phone numbers and how to bring them back to life.
First is when do you decide that a number is dead? Sinn came up with a great system for following up with numbers called phone freeze out.
Basically it breaks down so that for each time you’ve called her and she doesn’t answer up or return your call you freeze her out for that many days before trying to call again.
Written out it looks like this–
Day 1 - Call
Day 2 - Freeze out
Day 3 - Call
Day 4 - Freeze out
Day 5 - Freeze out
Day 6 - Call
Day 7 - Freeze out
Day 8 - Freeze out
Day 9 - Freeze out
Day 10 - Call
Day 11 - Freeze out
Day 12 - Freeze out
Day 13 - Freeze out
Day 14 - Freeze out
Day 15 - Call
In theory this could go on forever but after two weeks (15 days) you can pretty much assume that the number is dead. I also like to leave a voicemail each time I call and she doesn’t answer. It’s best to keep them short and not mention the fact that she never returned your call. I usually just say
“Hey, It’s Doc. Talk to you later.”
I used to leave leave messages of me singing a la Jeffy and his Air Supply voicemail… but then I kinda realized how weird and inconvenient it is to sing into someone’s voicemail.
Now I usually just send this text.
I wait until it’s about midnight or 1AM and send this fake booty call
“Come over. Key is in the usual place.”
or Paul Janka's "the tickets are for 7, dinner at 6?"
Usually they reply saying that you texted the wrong person or something similar and I always respond
“Haha. oops. that wasn’t for you.”
and call them the next day. Most of the time they pick up and will start grilling you about the booty call and who it was for. Just laugh it off, cut the thread, and stack into something else.
Saffron has great connections to parties and night life and he would just change the name of his dead numbers in his phone and every week or two send out tons of mass texts to the girls saying
“Hey everyone. Big party at X bar tonight. Come out.”
Some nights a few girls would show up, other nights just one or none would come. Either way they’ll give you social proof and a lot of times will create jealously plot lines and all that shit.
Try both, see which you prefer, and make the most of your numbers.
Doc Holliday
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HEY EVERYONE!
‘Scuse me, ‘scuse me!
It’s actually the Real Social Dynamics latest and greatest take on phone game.
Which, although only partially a black and white ‘how to’ guide,
will help you massively tune up your game to link the meet to the close and then ultimately the potential relationship if that’s your thing.
This article, unlike any other article published on phone game comes from a perspective of natural nuRSD style.
Coming from the right place.
Let me start by first stating the importance of coming from the right place. This place is where you can find guys who respect themselves and value their opinions of themself higher than others’ opinions of themself.
This mindset makes you the highest value person in your reality.
Others around you play subordinate roles in the highlight reel that is your life. If you are the main dish they are the garnishes.
Sweetening and enriching your experience, but never at the expense of your own path and regard.
Remember when we talk natural game I can’t stress strongly enough the reiteration of the GOLDEN RULE.
“Whatever you feel, she feels.”
Whenever you have an influence on her reality, her perceptual experience of the world, what you feel will play a role in the constitution of her state.
If you’re a cool carefree guy who’s coming from the right place you always feel good because you
live in the now.
Luckily you’re also a man who has the almost magical ability to draw state from within. So stop being the victim, ‘harden the fuck up’ and take responsibility of your state and look on the bright side.
You are at the helm of your own reality, steer it in a constructive direction and others will follow.
Referring to the interaction itself I used to hear a lot of girls use the terminology ‘you’re in’.
Which I eventually figured out meant that she likes you.
‘You’re in’ means that she considers you a sexworthy guy.
Once ‘you’re in’ it’s only a matter of time and logistics until physical intimacy occurs. Whether or not this intimacy ever arises depends on your dedication to the interaction, how far you’re willing to take it.
A lot of guys don’t even call the number, make the effort to set the date, endure flakes, or go on a second date to encounter the physicality. With the phone game/dating game responsibility for things moving forward need to be facilitated by you – the man.
In terms of the interaction in person and on the phone at no time do I deviate from my reality that everyone loves me. Why wouldn’t they? I offer value, don’t take any without asking nicely and I’m usually fun or self destructively entertaining to be around.
Strong perception equates to strong reality, so spread the love.
Furthermore this means staying true to myself and not attempting to ‘work’ the people I hang with.
When I talk to grandma sheloves me, when I talk to turbo club bitch it’s in my reality that she loves me too. If there is any misunderstanding I will help non-believers learn.
Strong perception equates to strong reality, so spread the love.
As for the phone game itself the underlying factor that will define you phone game success is succinctly the following:
“The key to good phone game is a good interaction” RSD – circa 2005.
Good phone game isn’t something that happens on the phone, it’s something that happens in the field. It happens in person.
What makes a good interaction?
For an interaction geared solely towards the intention of a later date meet up there are a few misconceptions that will be cleared up with the delivery of the following information.
And of course this info is a guide and collective experience and there are always exceptions to the mainstream trends.
But understanding what works will help you to implement a practise that will accelerate you results.
An interaction that is most likely to yield a day two meet up is usually a low energy, low sexuality low fireworks affair.
It’s generally short in duration as opposed to a several hour long marathon.
It generally doesn’t involve excessive physical escalation.
Makeouts on the first interaction are usually detrimental to the prospects of the date.
Picture a chill comfortable light hearted anticipation building interaction in a low energy environment. A social meeting that inspires curiosity and mutual respect.
However this scenario is rare in an intense club setting. But it’s not so uncommon earlier on in the night before energy levels spiral out of control or much later on after the club environment, maybe in a diner or food venue.
Some of the makers that consistently indicate a second meet are mutual distinct feelings of
‘this is an interesting new person’, it’s a very chill situation and she talks to you enough to be able to tell you apart from all the other guys in the club.
And with that you exchange numbers and on leaving you state something to the tune of ‘I will call you later’. Having done enough to inspire curiosity and leaving her generating her own anticipation of what you might actually be like when she gets to know you better but not going over the top and being a drunk horn bag.
In the ideal phone game interaction it’s important that you don’t colour the canvas of your life to the point that she doesn’t have the chance to do any of that for herself.
These sorts of interactions usually start with ‘Who are you?!’ Or ‘Hi, my name is **chilldude**’.
Offer value, feel good, express don’t impress, positive dominance.
Simple and sweet.
To quote the genius himself: Tyler…
“A date is most likely to arise from an interaction if the first interaction is similar in context to how the second interaction would be.”
It is in her reality upon meeting you that she could see herself dating you.
It is important that there is congruence between the ‘you’ that she meets and the ‘you’ that she dates. Incongruence shows a lack of self assurance and indicates that you play the situation as opposed to staying true to yourself.
Of course there are hundreds of different contingencies that pertain to this topic that have yielded dates. What I’m getting at here is a user guide to those who are inexperienced.
What you will find in the club is that everyone gives out there number almost all of the time.
This includes married women, chicks with boyfriends, chicks with girlfriends and even chicks who aren’t even chicks at all.
This is a product of buying temperature in the moment of the club. People act on impulse, plus it’s perfectly normal to network with people. You might not actually date this girl but she could hold the gate key to a fantastic new social circle where you find yourself socially proofed before you even meet the rest of her friends.
Network.
If the girls gives you her number it doesn’t mean it’s date time, it means she was having a good time at that point of exchange.
That state you put her in at that moment is all that is needed to inspire networking. This in no way means that you can expect to ever hear from her again.
Once she is out of sight assume nothing. Once you have no more influence over her state realise that you no longer play any role in her life until you further take responsibility for it on the phone or again socially down the track.
Live in the moment, when she’s in front of you or you’re on the phone to her she’s in your reality, when you’re not with her or on the phone to her she is outside your reality. You have a path that you’re on, stick to it.
This is the same as with her, when you’re not in contact with her you’re not a part of her reality. Don’t waste time speculating or even second guessing yourself. When you’re not with her don’t give it a second thought. Date your girls, or go out and meet some new ones.
After a while you will be able to tell which girls have boyfriends and aren’t likely to call back and which girls are looking to meet someone to date.
Remember the club is like a video game to her. Girls love to go to clubs for the state they get from them, it is a stimulus fest for girls. Similar to the last time you played Grand Theft Auto on the Xbox, you had fun but do you really remember the interchangeable details.
Well maybe the interesting, unique highlight details.
Be one of these.
Do this by being internally centred, being naturally attractive and offer value through talking about you as opposed to interviewing the shit out of her.
Cool interaction as per normal.
All of that said, it is obvious that numbers collected during the day far outweigh club numbers due to all the above listed reasons.
This is also true of after party numbers, diner numbers and social circle numbers.
So if you’re in date fishing mode hit up these scenarios for stronger leads.
In the situation of intense nightclubs it’s important to get the girl into the ideal interaction scenario for phone game by bouncing from the venue with her afterwards and going to get something to eat or just waiting and chilling outside waiting for a taxi.
In terms of the actual interaction outer game here’s the most up to date guide known to man.
All of these tips are designed to amplify you opportunities to create a good interaction and get her to remember you more than every other guy and have your reality grounded to hers.
There is no way to eliminate flakes. The measures listed here are means by which to mitigate them. Ways by which to make the interaction as good as possible.
The key to good phone game is a good interaction.
When it actually comes to proposing the number it’s very straightforward and best done within the first five minutes of meeting the girl.
Do it on a high note early on, this way her buying temp is of course up from meeting someone new and for the rest of the interaction she is talking to you through the filter of ‘this guy has my number’.
The number is a formality. Remember it is the girl you are interested in.
Ways to pitch for the number:
“We should be friends”, pass the phone.“We should network” pass the phone.“I have to go but we should talk later” pass the phone.“I have to get back to my friends” pass the phone.
Basic stuff, but don’t let this limit you.
If there is a lack of compliance pitch again, positive dominant responsivity.
If there is outright objection go illogical and say that you can just be emotionally close friends. If there is still no love keep talking and continue to amp her attraction to you by expressing yourself freely, offering value and being unreactive.
You will get a lot of phone numbers.
Save the details of the girls whose number you get. You are going to be in a position where you will be getting tens of numbers a week. Save the date and place of the interaction and maybe more.
For example: “Samantha 6/13 fusion club”.
When you get the number call her phone and tell her you have. It’s better to have her save your name there and then. Get her to save it as something unique to you so she remembers.
For example: “Alex 6/13 Godzilla penis”. Or any other relevant information.
At the point of exchanging numbers text her something self amusing that doesn’t try for rapport.
For example:
“I am cool.”“I love beer.”“Chuck Norris can eat a Rubik’s cube whole and reproduce it solved.”
Also it can be very good to text her your facebook or myspace details at this point.
Myspace and facebook are modern day social tools that aren’t to go unemployed. If you don’t use these things you are selling yourself short.
You certainly don’t NEED them, but it’s an extra string in your bow.
This was purpose designed as the ultimate social resume. Add me on facebook as well for a good guide as to how it should be set up to show that you have things going on.
If you made even half a good impression you can be sure she will be checking this stuff out at her first opportunity.
Make it work in your favour.
If you really want to get creative at the point of number exchange you can take photos of each other with camera phones or leave her a voice massage.
The voice message thing is good and I think the credit for this goes to Manwhore from RSDnation.
The idea is that you call her there and then and interview her so that it get saved into her voicemail box.
Doing this is another great way to set yourself apart from the other guys and have her remembering you later on.
Getting numbers earlier on in the night is great to because as you are a cool guy, each guy that approaches after that will come along and put you into a golden perspective by being fucking chodes.
Always be thinking in terms of INVESTMENTS AND RETURNS (keep an eye out for an article coming soon).
By her giving you her phone number she has made an investment in you. From any investment a person wants a return. Further her investment with you with some rapport stuff.
By chatting about a combination of deep and wide rapport topics she this investment will occur.
Practically an investment is her probing into your life by asking questions, the same way that lots of chodes do this in the club.
You can inspire this by talking about yourself and the things you want to do and the thing you do that you think are funny.
Making statements is offering value and if you don’t go over the top into dancing monkey mode you will find her asking you more chode game questions.
Girls have bad game when they like you. When you get the interview question you know that ‘you’re in’.
This rapport is a great way to facilitate this and ground your reality to her and render you a real person.
When taking the number it’s good to qualify her on it. Tell her that she probably just gives her number out to every guy and that she probably won’t even remember you.
Simply saying this elicits investment in her behalf usually in the form of
“No! Of course I will remember you!”
When she goes to decide whether or not she will pick up the phone this will play a part in her continued investment in you. Credit to Jlaix for this one.
When you actually get the number don’t walk away and give your friends a high five. The interest is in the girl, not the number.
Most of the time, after exchanging numbers the interaction will continue for a while. If you do have to go straight away make an effort to walk away on a high note, tell another story, misinterpret something in a way that amuses you and leave with a smile.
Don’t high five your friends after the interaction.
Back onto the topic of grounding your reality enough so that she remembers you it is imperatively important that you qualify her to demonstrate your connection with her and show her that you see her value other than her tits and or ass.
A girl isn’t likely to meet you purely on the grounds of sexual interaction. It is of course possible, but more often than not there needs to be logical rationalisation. There always will be a reason why you want to send time with a girl other than to sleep with her so don’t be afraid to let her know about it.
When you qualify her you tell her why she has value to you. You want to point out something that sets her apart from the other girls you meet in terms of her character traits. Avoid aesthetic traits at all costs otherwise the girl will interpret you as looking at her in terms of her aesthetics only.
She cannot rationalise making an effort to date a guy who only looks at her in terms of her looks, but can very easily rationalise seeing a guy who really connects with her. Qualification is your modality to achieve this.
Qualification is very powerful if you have any sort of personable intuition and you have been speaking to her for a couple of minutes. You will very quickly get an idea of what type of person she is and her strong points.
For example qualification would be structured like this:
1. I really like your xyz quality
2. Not many girls i meet have xyz quality
3. Why do you have this quality/what inspires this quality in you.
Literally:
1. I really admire the way you are brave under pressure
2. All the other girls would crumble at the first sign of danger and scary things
3. Where do you draw your inner warrior strength from?
In terms of investments and returns after you ask her why she has such a great quality she would be put into a position where she will be inclined to invest in you again.
Girl: “My bravery comes from the heart, and the knowledge that someday I will experience true love in a free land.”
Boom, you have demonstrated that you appreciate her for her and she will rationalise seeing you due to this fact.
Whereas so many guys lose out when setting up the meet up because the girl perceives the guys mind is solely geared towards sex even if he did appreciate her for her.
Credit to Jlaix for teaching me this qualification methodology.
This is the same for first interaction make outs.
She’s likely to get buyer’s remorse and her first interaction will be out of character ‘party girl’ that you wouldn’t meet on the date. By not making out you retain the ideology that you are picking her up in a context that would be similar to being on a date with her.
Even if you don’t have the ideal interaction there is no sure fire way of telling for sure who you will wind up meeting again and not, play out the phone game as closely as you can to the way it stipulated in this article.
When you leave that night send a mass text to everyone including the girl to further give her references to remember you by.
If the girl is going to get a mass text from a new number make it clear that it is a mass text and not just directed at her.
Do not, under any circumstance, try for rapport.
“Yooooooooo! We own the weekend. After party!”
You should be doing this anyway after the night to search for options and consolidate relations. Plus, people are inclined to text back asking about an after party to which you can propose throwing one. Or, someone might simply ask you to theirs, no worries.
If you get into a volley with the girl that night on text it could be the case that you can ‘afterparty’ with one another at a venue, always call it ‘afterparty’ instead of a meet up. Text
exchange addresses.
Phone game ability is unnecessary once you have slept with the girl. If you can consolidate your physical connection with the girl that night that’s the best way to make her your girlfriend.
If this is not the case it will be necessary to call her to facilitate the establishment of a girlfriend.
When should you call?
There is not hard and fast rule for this either. Next day can be fine.
I’m a caller not a texter. For two reasons, texting is trickier than calling with all the button pushing shit and I have had more success establishing meet ups this way.
Person to person interaction on the phone is far more influential than text messages. Don’t be the guy who doesn’t call because he likes to plan meticulously what he’s going to text the girl. And don’t be the guy who doesn’t call because he’s scares he’s going to fuck up speaking to her in person on the phone.
Fucking up is good because it then gives you an opportunity to show that you make mistakes, but you don’t care, it’s just what you do. You’re not the sort of guy who really gives a fuck about stupid irrelevant bullshit.
The way it turns out most of the time is that it will take a couple of days to call the girl because you have things going on.
Usually one or two days is about right. If I get a number on Thursday, Friday or Saturday I call Monday, if I got the numberSunday I’d call Tuesday.
In my experience its best to call during business hours or school hours, around the four or 5 o’clock mark. This has a better connection rate than later in the night when any number of other things could be going on.
During business or school hours people are in a better state because they are busy and usually more attentive to the phone. After hours people are less in state and harder to get a hold of especially when the phone is on charge in another room.
Before you call note this.
If a girl agrees to meet up with you in any case the potential scenario is not something that she would consciously want to agree to.
One the one hand she might meet you and not like you the way she thought she might. Ultra awkward situation. She won’t agree to that potential situation.
On the other hand she will like you. In this scenario she will end up investing massive amounts of time, money, effort and emotion into you for potentially no return. Not something she can consciously agree to either.
So, when you get into a phone game situation its vital that you persist for the meet up.
This is a case again of coming from the right place.
Chasing, pushing, needing is low value stuff.
Persisting is high value and approaching the situation from the right mindset.
You take every responsibility for the girl getting laid.
You take every responsibility for the continuation of the interaction after the initial meeting.
If you’re wondering as to why you should have a sense of entitlement remember your intentions.
You intend to make life a better place for her,
you intend to have fun,
you don’t intend to take value or detract for her experience in any way.
You know that when she hangs out with you shes going to have more fun with you for the right reasons than any other guy.
That’s why it’s worth persisting. In line with your intentions you need to help her understand this.
Persist until she sees you.
If she doesn’t get that you’re the best guy for her that’s her loss…or your miscalibration.
Usually flakes result from bad interactions, a lack of self value relative to the girl, lack of persistence and a lack of sense of entitlement.
The self is always coming through even on the phone.
Self trust is big. Anything except self trust won’t be received well.
The state you’re in on the phone will be the state you influence her with when you speak to her. So relax and have fun with it.
When you are on the phone stay in alignment with yourself.
Anything other than positive dominance means you’re not manning up. Stop being a little bitch.
You want to be in a good state when you go to make the call. This is best done when you are hanging out with other people and already in a social mode.
Other good situations are when you’re coming back from the gym or some other stimulating activity or maybe you’re just out shopping.
The common theme behind this is your switched on, in the moment and feeling good.
Don’t be counting down the clock to seven PM, lighting candles chanting mantras and pulling the blinds closed. The phone call is an offhand everyday thing.
When you actually make the call you have pretty much two contingencies that could possibly arise. Either you speak to her on the phone or you get her answering service.
If you get the answering machine it’s a simple:
“Hey it’s me, call me back.” Indifferent, breaking-rapport tonality.
If you don’t hear anything back do the same three or four days afterwards.
After four or five instances of this with no call back you have nothing to lose, so go all out and
then delete the number.Call her answering machine as per normal with Aerosmith playing dramatically in the background. Sing to the answering to the tunes of the song something outrageous like:
“I don’t want to close my eyes,I am a fucking chode,And I masturbate,Using tears as my lub-ri-cant”
End song with:
“call me, BIIIIIIIIIIIII-ATCH!”
Credit to Jlaix’s weeping air supply technique. I never heard of air supply so I use Aerosmith I don’t wan’t to miss a thing track.
This gets a good call back rate, and granted you do start a little behind the eight ball but you get
something whereas you previously had nothing.
Proceed with phone game as per normal.
If you do get her on the phone in person there is a tried and tested structure and a couple of principles that will stand you in good stead.
On the first call you are just feeling out the situation. If you are going to potentially date a girl and dedicate a night of your life to a potential waste of time you want to investigate firstly whether or not a person is worth the expenditure of your value able time.
Don’t pitch the meet up on the first call.
Whatever you do DON’T TRY FOR RAPPORT IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM.
Girls usually aren’t ultra talkative on the phone during the first call because they get nervous like guys do.
Don’t fall into the trap of talking solely to fill awkward silences. Be cool with silences, she will sense this and usually be compelled to talk to fill the silence herself.
It’s as though you create a verbal vacuum.
Usually if there is a silence on the phone or in person people will try and question their way out of this. This is more investment in you by her trying for rapport by asking questions. This investment into you is a great thing.
On the first call keep things normal. Here’s a structure that I usually follow that is a great way to connect over the phone, communicate high value and leave her wanting more.
This is how it basically goes.
I dial, she answers.
Girl: hello, slut speaking
Haha, no.
Girl: hello girl speaking
Alex: hey girl, whassup.
Girl: Oh hey! Not much, I’m just studying/working/doing something non-inspiring or non creative answer
Alex: haha yeah? Sounds riveting.
Alex: I’m on the way back from the gym workout of desire/grocery shopping because I can’t cook anything except metal in microwaves/buying alcohol for a Monday night binge session.
Alex: OI, I had the craziest week…(insert value offering, interesting, buying temperature spiking story here.)
Alex: I got into a fight with a bouncer, my friend got arrested, I went to a casino, I set a microwave on fire, grew enough facial hair to shave, wore a costume while drunk.
Girl: Haha, OMG your crazy/cool haha. (questions usually follow)
Alex: (Answers questions in a sexually mis-interpretive way)
Alex: So what did you say you did on the weekend?
Girl: A non-inspiring or non-creative answer.
Alex: Haha, shit, I can’t believe I missed it, I suppose you had to be there right? (sarcasm, fulfils a full range of emotions)
Girl: (giggles)
Alex: Well, I was just calling to check in. I’ve got a couple of things going on this afternoon/this evening, I’m going in and out.
Girl: OK.
Alex: Cool. I will call you later.
Click.
This will certainly leave her mulling over the prospects of you in her mind. Considering you high value and giver her imagination to run away with hopes that you might fall into the frame of the ideal guy she has been looking for.
This is a great replicatable framework for guys who are new to phone game and the game in general.
Remember that it is a structure, not a script.
Over the phone don’t expect to have her cooing and seducing you immediately in the same way you dot expect her to be rubbing your nipples when you first meet her in person.
Come from the right place and you CAN’T NOT be attractive to her in the same way guys CAN’T NOT be attracted to a hot girl in a bikini.
A lot of guys go over the top in person and especially on the phone and sabotage themselves.
In the same way that guys are always hoping to find that babe girl to potentially hook up with girls are always looking for that particular type of attractive guy.
Give her a chance to project onto you what she wants to.
Your attractiveness to her is determined by your behaviour and smoothness in potentially turbulent situations.
If you sit back and stay ‘chill’ more often than not she will go out of her way to project onto you
what her reticular activation system is looking for in a guy.
Attraction isn’t something you can do for her, give her space to do it for herself
On the second call pitch the meet up unless it is blatantly obvious that she wants to meet up on the first call or she pitches it to you there and then herself. Go right ahead.
Otherwise, no need to rush, especially when you don’t know what you’re getting yourself into yet. If you rush she will perceive your rushing for sex, which she’s probably ok with but can’t justify acting upon.
On the second call pitch the meet up. This isn’t rocket surgery. Have something going on and bring her along with you. I would propose that a girl come with me to check out something my brother recommended but I couldn’t tell her what it was. Other times I would propose she join me at a fashion event, shopping or coming with me to my favourite coffee place.
Don’t make it about you and her, make it about what she has to do to prepare. I would request that the girl come to my house and bring candy and beer. I was joking, but often times this happened.
I would also suggest what to wear, either something cute or something warm depending on what I had in mind.
Set the date, ideally have her come to your place first and you go from there. More day two info is for another post.
If you get a flake post call pre meet up don’t over react. You have options and other potential things going on.
The first date wasn’t going to be an extravagant affair anyway so it’s no loss. If I get a flake and I don’t consider it to be a great loss I will just tell her it’s cool and tell her to call me when she wants to meet up next. Then I leave it at that.
Eventually she will call when she realises that you are genuinely indifferent and live in abundance. If she’s pulling some immature bullshit then I will call her lame for being immature and lose interest then and there. If you want to continue with the girl don’t be afraid to call a few days later and start the phone game process all over again. First call then second call style.
Don’t sweat the who-calls-who-more ratio.
If your feeing adventurous bust on her for flaking you. If it’s for a reason like study, fatigue or some other transparent bullshit then it’s time to up the stakes. I ask her what her address is for INVITATIONAL PURPOSES, she then sends it to me (this is the case 100% of the time) and I simply go and pay her a visit.
Showing up where she’s at is congruent with my sense of entitlement, confidence and playfulness. If you are not congruent with these things then this could be tricky and come off weird.
I have done this three times and have had three lays.
I drive to the location, find the girl and change her mood and mind right there. It’s very difficult to say no to a date to someone in person amplifying your state there in person saying
“SKO, SKO, SKO!”
Generally it goes down like this (this is the epitome of persistence):
Girl: hey what are you doing here!?
You: Hey I was baking a cake and I needed a cup of sugar and I was in the neighbourhood so I
thought I’d ask you because I am your neighbour (total illogicality).
You: Grab your coat! We’ll just hang out for fifteen minutes! SKO, SKO, SKO!
Girl’s mood is changed by having her state influenced in person and fifteen minutes turns into a full blown date. Be ultra light hearted and fun when you do this or IT WILL come off as creepy and weird.
Phone game is only really important between the meeting and hooking up. Once you have hooked up the girl will usually be invested beyond the point of no return.
In terms of text, I don’t go over the top with anything overly fancy except for some logistical organisation, meaningless sexual mis-interpretation banter, not trying for rapport and self amusement.For more on text game consult our expert Ryan.
More importantly, you understand the psychology and the contingencies behind the phone game, which will not only give you confidence in the process but the confidence will come through in the application of the process.
You will know why you are doing what you are doing and you will know why it will work. Cognitive and social empowerment.
Go forth, close the deal…
And as my mentor would say:
“DATE, FUCK WIN”
Leave a comment if you learnt something.
Alexander~
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That being said I cant think of anything more SOLID than this!
digesst it ligthly....
SOLID material that should always be applied
I dont use sexual overtones too much unless she is first responding and its at night.
we dont want to seem eager or sexual needy or in girl terms "desperate".
we want to be fun ,
cooler than her,
busy and subtle
make her invest in the conversation than you
....and when she is playing hard to get trigger jealousy as last resort.
I always want to call the girl when you have Good comfort...
if not then text game is always good...text should be only transition to phone call meet up... theres a ladder as escalation to move things forward to lead...
I read tons of stuff but you can come off incongruent if you are too dancing monkey or funny guy on text, too sexual and trigger ASD....
Im Working on Solid GAME to get to another level once after 6 lays to learn advanced technique...that way you get more consistent results hence sucess.
ALSO age of woman is important,younger girl more text game for date
+25woman you want phone call.
call or text her at 9pm
first text dont ask her out
get compliance, responding to you.
I use funny story in convo then NLP patterns mixed with jokes timebridge ...
alot of fluff talk and use words like ",right?"
everytime she shit tests you hit her back with a more funny than cocky answer like a tease
use social pressure to meet up
Here it is:
Basics of Phone Game by Sinn
This time we're going to be going over Phone Game.
First you have to understand that the purpose of the phone is to
build comfort and get the girl to meet up.
You want to avoid having the following conversation:
You: "Hey Shelly, what's up it's Hank from the bar. How was your day? Wanna hang out?"
Instead we want to use the phone to go from being some guy she met at a Starbucks or a club, and start becoming a part of her day to day life.
Once you get a girl's phone number you want to ping a text message to it, to make sure she's going to respond.
I like to send the following text courtesy of my friend Debonair Dave.
" Hey girl's name, very important question, do you speak text?"
Once the girl responds you can be pretty sure she'll pick up the phone.
The basic structure of the first phone call should be: Callback Humor
- Use an inside joke or nickname to establish who you are.
Funny Story Commitment To The Call
- You want to make sure she's not multi-tasking Future Plans
- Start discussing the events you'll be going to this week. Set up plans with her.
You always want to get off the phone first. It may seem simple and juvenile, it really does help maintain your social power.
If you get an answering machine, you want to leave a short simple message. Something like this community classic courtesy of Hollywood.
" Hey, it's me. I'm in and out all night , but try to catch me. If not I'll talk to you later."
You never want to call or text more than once a day. It's also important that if you call, and don't get a callback, you don't text her. Don't try more than one form of communication a day without a response.
Lastly you want to make sure that you call all of your numbers.
A lot of guys go through the work of gathering a ton of phone numbers and then wuss out when it comes time to call them. Don't be one of those guys.
Instead pick a time EVERY day when you are going to work on your phone game and call all your numbers.
That's the basics of Phone Game folks,
Sinn
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Dead Phone Numbers
by Doc Holliday
Tags: Dates, Doc Holliday, Phone, Sinn
I get a lot of questions about what to do with dead phone numbers and how to bring them back to life.
First is when do you decide that a number is dead? Sinn came up with a great system for following up with numbers called phone freeze out.
Basically it breaks down so that for each time you’ve called her and she doesn’t answer up or return your call you freeze her out for that many days before trying to call again.
Written out it looks like this–
Day 1 - Call
Day 2 - Freeze out
Day 3 - Call
Day 4 - Freeze out
Day 5 - Freeze out
Day 6 - Call
Day 7 - Freeze out
Day 8 - Freeze out
Day 9 - Freeze out
Day 10 - Call
Day 11 - Freeze out
Day 12 - Freeze out
Day 13 - Freeze out
Day 14 - Freeze out
Day 15 - Call
In theory this could go on forever but after two weeks (15 days) you can pretty much assume that the number is dead. I also like to leave a voicemail each time I call and she doesn’t answer. It’s best to keep them short and not mention the fact that she never returned your call. I usually just say
“Hey, It’s Doc. Talk to you later.”
I used to leave leave messages of me singing a la Jeffy and his Air Supply voicemail… but then I kinda realized how weird and inconvenient it is to sing into someone’s voicemail.
Now I usually just send this text.
I wait until it’s about midnight or 1AM and send this fake booty call
“Come over. Key is in the usual place.”
or Paul Janka's "the tickets are for 7, dinner at 6?"
Usually they reply saying that you texted the wrong person or something similar and I always respond
“Haha. oops. that wasn’t for you.”
and call them the next day. Most of the time they pick up and will start grilling you about the booty call and who it was for. Just laugh it off, cut the thread, and stack into something else.
Saffron has great connections to parties and night life and he would just change the name of his dead numbers in his phone and every week or two send out tons of mass texts to the girls saying
“Hey everyone. Big party at X bar tonight. Come out.”
Some nights a few girls would show up, other nights just one or none would come. Either way they’ll give you social proof and a lot of times will create jealously plot lines and all that shit.
Try both, see which you prefer, and make the most of your numbers.
Doc Holliday
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HEY EVERYONE!
‘Scuse me, ‘scuse me!
It’s actually the Real Social Dynamics latest and greatest take on phone game.
Which, although only partially a black and white ‘how to’ guide,
will help you massively tune up your game to link the meet to the close and then ultimately the potential relationship if that’s your thing.
This article, unlike any other article published on phone game comes from a perspective of natural nuRSD style.
Coming from the right place.
Let me start by first stating the importance of coming from the right place. This place is where you can find guys who respect themselves and value their opinions of themself higher than others’ opinions of themself.
This mindset makes you the highest value person in your reality.
Others around you play subordinate roles in the highlight reel that is your life. If you are the main dish they are the garnishes.
Sweetening and enriching your experience, but never at the expense of your own path and regard.
Remember when we talk natural game I can’t stress strongly enough the reiteration of the GOLDEN RULE.
“Whatever you feel, she feels.”
Whenever you have an influence on her reality, her perceptual experience of the world, what you feel will play a role in the constitution of her state.
If you’re a cool carefree guy who’s coming from the right place you always feel good because you
live in the now.
Luckily you’re also a man who has the almost magical ability to draw state from within. So stop being the victim, ‘harden the fuck up’ and take responsibility of your state and look on the bright side.
You are at the helm of your own reality, steer it in a constructive direction and others will follow.
Referring to the interaction itself I used to hear a lot of girls use the terminology ‘you’re in’.
Which I eventually figured out meant that she likes you.
‘You’re in’ means that she considers you a sexworthy guy.
Once ‘you’re in’ it’s only a matter of time and logistics until physical intimacy occurs. Whether or not this intimacy ever arises depends on your dedication to the interaction, how far you’re willing to take it.
A lot of guys don’t even call the number, make the effort to set the date, endure flakes, or go on a second date to encounter the physicality. With the phone game/dating game responsibility for things moving forward need to be facilitated by you – the man.
In terms of the interaction in person and on the phone at no time do I deviate from my reality that everyone loves me. Why wouldn’t they? I offer value, don’t take any without asking nicely and I’m usually fun or self destructively entertaining to be around.
Strong perception equates to strong reality, so spread the love.
Furthermore this means staying true to myself and not attempting to ‘work’ the people I hang with.
When I talk to grandma sheloves me, when I talk to turbo club bitch it’s in my reality that she loves me too. If there is any misunderstanding I will help non-believers learn.
Strong perception equates to strong reality, so spread the love.
As for the phone game itself the underlying factor that will define you phone game success is succinctly the following:
“The key to good phone game is a good interaction” RSD – circa 2005.
Good phone game isn’t something that happens on the phone, it’s something that happens in the field. It happens in person.
What makes a good interaction?
For an interaction geared solely towards the intention of a later date meet up there are a few misconceptions that will be cleared up with the delivery of the following information.
And of course this info is a guide and collective experience and there are always exceptions to the mainstream trends.
But understanding what works will help you to implement a practise that will accelerate you results.
An interaction that is most likely to yield a day two meet up is usually a low energy, low sexuality low fireworks affair.
It’s generally short in duration as opposed to a several hour long marathon.
It generally doesn’t involve excessive physical escalation.
Makeouts on the first interaction are usually detrimental to the prospects of the date.
Picture a chill comfortable light hearted anticipation building interaction in a low energy environment. A social meeting that inspires curiosity and mutual respect.
However this scenario is rare in an intense club setting. But it’s not so uncommon earlier on in the night before energy levels spiral out of control or much later on after the club environment, maybe in a diner or food venue.
Some of the makers that consistently indicate a second meet are mutual distinct feelings of
‘this is an interesting new person’, it’s a very chill situation and she talks to you enough to be able to tell you apart from all the other guys in the club.
And with that you exchange numbers and on leaving you state something to the tune of ‘I will call you later’. Having done enough to inspire curiosity and leaving her generating her own anticipation of what you might actually be like when she gets to know you better but not going over the top and being a drunk horn bag.
In the ideal phone game interaction it’s important that you don’t colour the canvas of your life to the point that she doesn’t have the chance to do any of that for herself.
These sorts of interactions usually start with ‘Who are you?!’ Or ‘Hi, my name is **chilldude**’.
Offer value, feel good, express don’t impress, positive dominance.
Simple and sweet.
To quote the genius himself: Tyler…
“A date is most likely to arise from an interaction if the first interaction is similar in context to how the second interaction would be.”
It is in her reality upon meeting you that she could see herself dating you.
It is important that there is congruence between the ‘you’ that she meets and the ‘you’ that she dates. Incongruence shows a lack of self assurance and indicates that you play the situation as opposed to staying true to yourself.
Of course there are hundreds of different contingencies that pertain to this topic that have yielded dates. What I’m getting at here is a user guide to those who are inexperienced.
What you will find in the club is that everyone gives out there number almost all of the time.
This includes married women, chicks with boyfriends, chicks with girlfriends and even chicks who aren’t even chicks at all.
This is a product of buying temperature in the moment of the club. People act on impulse, plus it’s perfectly normal to network with people. You might not actually date this girl but she could hold the gate key to a fantastic new social circle where you find yourself socially proofed before you even meet the rest of her friends.
Network.
If the girls gives you her number it doesn’t mean it’s date time, it means she was having a good time at that point of exchange.
That state you put her in at that moment is all that is needed to inspire networking. This in no way means that you can expect to ever hear from her again.
Once she is out of sight assume nothing. Once you have no more influence over her state realise that you no longer play any role in her life until you further take responsibility for it on the phone or again socially down the track.
Live in the moment, when she’s in front of you or you’re on the phone to her she’s in your reality, when you’re not with her or on the phone to her she is outside your reality. You have a path that you’re on, stick to it.
This is the same as with her, when you’re not in contact with her you’re not a part of her reality. Don’t waste time speculating or even second guessing yourself. When you’re not with her don’t give it a second thought. Date your girls, or go out and meet some new ones.
After a while you will be able to tell which girls have boyfriends and aren’t likely to call back and which girls are looking to meet someone to date.
Remember the club is like a video game to her. Girls love to go to clubs for the state they get from them, it is a stimulus fest for girls. Similar to the last time you played Grand Theft Auto on the Xbox, you had fun but do you really remember the interchangeable details.
Well maybe the interesting, unique highlight details.
Be one of these.
Do this by being internally centred, being naturally attractive and offer value through talking about you as opposed to interviewing the shit out of her.
Cool interaction as per normal.
All of that said, it is obvious that numbers collected during the day far outweigh club numbers due to all the above listed reasons.
This is also true of after party numbers, diner numbers and social circle numbers.
So if you’re in date fishing mode hit up these scenarios for stronger leads.
In the situation of intense nightclubs it’s important to get the girl into the ideal interaction scenario for phone game by bouncing from the venue with her afterwards and going to get something to eat or just waiting and chilling outside waiting for a taxi.
In terms of the actual interaction outer game here’s the most up to date guide known to man.
All of these tips are designed to amplify you opportunities to create a good interaction and get her to remember you more than every other guy and have your reality grounded to hers.
There is no way to eliminate flakes. The measures listed here are means by which to mitigate them. Ways by which to make the interaction as good as possible.
The key to good phone game is a good interaction.
When it actually comes to proposing the number it’s very straightforward and best done within the first five minutes of meeting the girl.
Do it on a high note early on, this way her buying temp is of course up from meeting someone new and for the rest of the interaction she is talking to you through the filter of ‘this guy has my number’.
The number is a formality. Remember it is the girl you are interested in.
Ways to pitch for the number:
“We should be friends”, pass the phone.“We should network” pass the phone.“I have to go but we should talk later” pass the phone.“I have to get back to my friends” pass the phone.
Basic stuff, but don’t let this limit you.
If there is a lack of compliance pitch again, positive dominant responsivity.
If there is outright objection go illogical and say that you can just be emotionally close friends. If there is still no love keep talking and continue to amp her attraction to you by expressing yourself freely, offering value and being unreactive.
You will get a lot of phone numbers.
Save the details of the girls whose number you get. You are going to be in a position where you will be getting tens of numbers a week. Save the date and place of the interaction and maybe more.
For example: “Samantha 6/13 fusion club”.
When you get the number call her phone and tell her you have. It’s better to have her save your name there and then. Get her to save it as something unique to you so she remembers.
For example: “Alex 6/13 Godzilla penis”. Or any other relevant information.
At the point of exchanging numbers text her something self amusing that doesn’t try for rapport.
For example:
“I am cool.”“I love beer.”“Chuck Norris can eat a Rubik’s cube whole and reproduce it solved.”
Also it can be very good to text her your facebook or myspace details at this point.
Myspace and facebook are modern day social tools that aren’t to go unemployed. If you don’t use these things you are selling yourself short.
You certainly don’t NEED them, but it’s an extra string in your bow.
This was purpose designed as the ultimate social resume. Add me on facebook as well for a good guide as to how it should be set up to show that you have things going on.
If you made even half a good impression you can be sure she will be checking this stuff out at her first opportunity.
Make it work in your favour.
If you really want to get creative at the point of number exchange you can take photos of each other with camera phones or leave her a voice massage.
The voice message thing is good and I think the credit for this goes to Manwhore from RSDnation.
The idea is that you call her there and then and interview her so that it get saved into her voicemail box.
Doing this is another great way to set yourself apart from the other guys and have her remembering you later on.
Getting numbers earlier on in the night is great to because as you are a cool guy, each guy that approaches after that will come along and put you into a golden perspective by being fucking chodes.
Always be thinking in terms of INVESTMENTS AND RETURNS (keep an eye out for an article coming soon).
By her giving you her phone number she has made an investment in you. From any investment a person wants a return. Further her investment with you with some rapport stuff.
By chatting about a combination of deep and wide rapport topics she this investment will occur.
Practically an investment is her probing into your life by asking questions, the same way that lots of chodes do this in the club.
You can inspire this by talking about yourself and the things you want to do and the thing you do that you think are funny.
Making statements is offering value and if you don’t go over the top into dancing monkey mode you will find her asking you more chode game questions.
Girls have bad game when they like you. When you get the interview question you know that ‘you’re in’.
This rapport is a great way to facilitate this and ground your reality to her and render you a real person.
When taking the number it’s good to qualify her on it. Tell her that she probably just gives her number out to every guy and that she probably won’t even remember you.
Simply saying this elicits investment in her behalf usually in the form of
“No! Of course I will remember you!”
When she goes to decide whether or not she will pick up the phone this will play a part in her continued investment in you. Credit to Jlaix for this one.
When you actually get the number don’t walk away and give your friends a high five. The interest is in the girl, not the number.
Most of the time, after exchanging numbers the interaction will continue for a while. If you do have to go straight away make an effort to walk away on a high note, tell another story, misinterpret something in a way that amuses you and leave with a smile.
Don’t high five your friends after the interaction.
Back onto the topic of grounding your reality enough so that she remembers you it is imperatively important that you qualify her to demonstrate your connection with her and show her that you see her value other than her tits and or ass.
A girl isn’t likely to meet you purely on the grounds of sexual interaction. It is of course possible, but more often than not there needs to be logical rationalisation. There always will be a reason why you want to send time with a girl other than to sleep with her so don’t be afraid to let her know about it.
When you qualify her you tell her why she has value to you. You want to point out something that sets her apart from the other girls you meet in terms of her character traits. Avoid aesthetic traits at all costs otherwise the girl will interpret you as looking at her in terms of her aesthetics only.
She cannot rationalise making an effort to date a guy who only looks at her in terms of her looks, but can very easily rationalise seeing a guy who really connects with her. Qualification is your modality to achieve this.
Qualification is very powerful if you have any sort of personable intuition and you have been speaking to her for a couple of minutes. You will very quickly get an idea of what type of person she is and her strong points.
For example qualification would be structured like this:
1. I really like your xyz quality
2. Not many girls i meet have xyz quality
3. Why do you have this quality/what inspires this quality in you.
Literally:
1. I really admire the way you are brave under pressure
2. All the other girls would crumble at the first sign of danger and scary things
3. Where do you draw your inner warrior strength from?
In terms of investments and returns after you ask her why she has such a great quality she would be put into a position where she will be inclined to invest in you again.
Girl: “My bravery comes from the heart, and the knowledge that someday I will experience true love in a free land.”
Boom, you have demonstrated that you appreciate her for her and she will rationalise seeing you due to this fact.
Whereas so many guys lose out when setting up the meet up because the girl perceives the guys mind is solely geared towards sex even if he did appreciate her for her.
Credit to Jlaix for teaching me this qualification methodology.
This is the same for first interaction make outs.
She’s likely to get buyer’s remorse and her first interaction will be out of character ‘party girl’ that you wouldn’t meet on the date. By not making out you retain the ideology that you are picking her up in a context that would be similar to being on a date with her.
Even if you don’t have the ideal interaction there is no sure fire way of telling for sure who you will wind up meeting again and not, play out the phone game as closely as you can to the way it stipulated in this article.
When you leave that night send a mass text to everyone including the girl to further give her references to remember you by.
If the girl is going to get a mass text from a new number make it clear that it is a mass text and not just directed at her.
Do not, under any circumstance, try for rapport.
“Yooooooooo! We own the weekend. After party!”
You should be doing this anyway after the night to search for options and consolidate relations. Plus, people are inclined to text back asking about an after party to which you can propose throwing one. Or, someone might simply ask you to theirs, no worries.
If you get into a volley with the girl that night on text it could be the case that you can ‘afterparty’ with one another at a venue, always call it ‘afterparty’ instead of a meet up. Text
exchange addresses.
Phone game ability is unnecessary once you have slept with the girl. If you can consolidate your physical connection with the girl that night that’s the best way to make her your girlfriend.
If this is not the case it will be necessary to call her to facilitate the establishment of a girlfriend.
When should you call?
There is not hard and fast rule for this either. Next day can be fine.
I’m a caller not a texter. For two reasons, texting is trickier than calling with all the button pushing shit and I have had more success establishing meet ups this way.
Person to person interaction on the phone is far more influential than text messages. Don’t be the guy who doesn’t call because he likes to plan meticulously what he’s going to text the girl. And don’t be the guy who doesn’t call because he’s scares he’s going to fuck up speaking to her in person on the phone.
Fucking up is good because it then gives you an opportunity to show that you make mistakes, but you don’t care, it’s just what you do. You’re not the sort of guy who really gives a fuck about stupid irrelevant bullshit.
The way it turns out most of the time is that it will take a couple of days to call the girl because you have things going on.
Usually one or two days is about right. If I get a number on Thursday, Friday or Saturday I call Monday, if I got the numberSunday I’d call Tuesday.
In my experience its best to call during business hours or school hours, around the four or 5 o’clock mark. This has a better connection rate than later in the night when any number of other things could be going on.
During business or school hours people are in a better state because they are busy and usually more attentive to the phone. After hours people are less in state and harder to get a hold of especially when the phone is on charge in another room.
Before you call note this.
If a girl agrees to meet up with you in any case the potential scenario is not something that she would consciously want to agree to.
One the one hand she might meet you and not like you the way she thought she might. Ultra awkward situation. She won’t agree to that potential situation.
On the other hand she will like you. In this scenario she will end up investing massive amounts of time, money, effort and emotion into you for potentially no return. Not something she can consciously agree to either.
So, when you get into a phone game situation its vital that you persist for the meet up.
This is a case again of coming from the right place.
Chasing, pushing, needing is low value stuff.
Persisting is high value and approaching the situation from the right mindset.
You take every responsibility for the girl getting laid.
You take every responsibility for the continuation of the interaction after the initial meeting.
If you’re wondering as to why you should have a sense of entitlement remember your intentions.
You intend to make life a better place for her,
you intend to have fun,
you don’t intend to take value or detract for her experience in any way.
You know that when she hangs out with you shes going to have more fun with you for the right reasons than any other guy.
That’s why it’s worth persisting. In line with your intentions you need to help her understand this.
Persist until she sees you.
If she doesn’t get that you’re the best guy for her that’s her loss…or your miscalibration.
Usually flakes result from bad interactions, a lack of self value relative to the girl, lack of persistence and a lack of sense of entitlement.
The self is always coming through even on the phone.
Self trust is big. Anything except self trust won’t be received well.
The state you’re in on the phone will be the state you influence her with when you speak to her. So relax and have fun with it.
When you are on the phone stay in alignment with yourself.
Anything other than positive dominance means you’re not manning up. Stop being a little bitch.
You want to be in a good state when you go to make the call. This is best done when you are hanging out with other people and already in a social mode.
Other good situations are when you’re coming back from the gym or some other stimulating activity or maybe you’re just out shopping.
The common theme behind this is your switched on, in the moment and feeling good.
Don’t be counting down the clock to seven PM, lighting candles chanting mantras and pulling the blinds closed. The phone call is an offhand everyday thing.
When you actually make the call you have pretty much two contingencies that could possibly arise. Either you speak to her on the phone or you get her answering service.
If you get the answering machine it’s a simple:
“Hey it’s me, call me back.” Indifferent, breaking-rapport tonality.
If you don’t hear anything back do the same three or four days afterwards.
After four or five instances of this with no call back you have nothing to lose, so go all out and
then delete the number.Call her answering machine as per normal with Aerosmith playing dramatically in the background. Sing to the answering to the tunes of the song something outrageous like:
“I don’t want to close my eyes,I am a fucking chode,And I masturbate,Using tears as my lub-ri-cant”
End song with:
“call me, BIIIIIIIIIIIII-ATCH!”
Credit to Jlaix’s weeping air supply technique. I never heard of air supply so I use Aerosmith I don’t wan’t to miss a thing track.
This gets a good call back rate, and granted you do start a little behind the eight ball but you get
something whereas you previously had nothing.
Proceed with phone game as per normal.
If you do get her on the phone in person there is a tried and tested structure and a couple of principles that will stand you in good stead.
On the first call you are just feeling out the situation. If you are going to potentially date a girl and dedicate a night of your life to a potential waste of time you want to investigate firstly whether or not a person is worth the expenditure of your value able time.
Don’t pitch the meet up on the first call.
Whatever you do DON’T TRY FOR RAPPORT IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM.
Girls usually aren’t ultra talkative on the phone during the first call because they get nervous like guys do.
Don’t fall into the trap of talking solely to fill awkward silences. Be cool with silences, she will sense this and usually be compelled to talk to fill the silence herself.
It’s as though you create a verbal vacuum.
Usually if there is a silence on the phone or in person people will try and question their way out of this. This is more investment in you by her trying for rapport by asking questions. This investment into you is a great thing.
On the first call keep things normal. Here’s a structure that I usually follow that is a great way to connect over the phone, communicate high value and leave her wanting more.
This is how it basically goes.
I dial, she answers.
Girl: hello, slut speaking
Haha, no.
Girl: hello girl speaking
Alex: hey girl, whassup.
Girl: Oh hey! Not much, I’m just studying/working/doing something non-inspiring or non creative answer
Alex: haha yeah? Sounds riveting.
Alex: I’m on the way back from the gym workout of desire/grocery shopping because I can’t cook anything except metal in microwaves/buying alcohol for a Monday night binge session.
Alex: OI, I had the craziest week…(insert value offering, interesting, buying temperature spiking story here.)
Alex: I got into a fight with a bouncer, my friend got arrested, I went to a casino, I set a microwave on fire, grew enough facial hair to shave, wore a costume while drunk.
Girl: Haha, OMG your crazy/cool haha. (questions usually follow)
Alex: (Answers questions in a sexually mis-interpretive way)
Alex: So what did you say you did on the weekend?
Girl: A non-inspiring or non-creative answer.
Alex: Haha, shit, I can’t believe I missed it, I suppose you had to be there right? (sarcasm, fulfils a full range of emotions)
Girl: (giggles)
Alex: Well, I was just calling to check in. I’ve got a couple of things going on this afternoon/this evening, I’m going in and out.
Girl: OK.
Alex: Cool. I will call you later.
Click.
This will certainly leave her mulling over the prospects of you in her mind. Considering you high value and giver her imagination to run away with hopes that you might fall into the frame of the ideal guy she has been looking for.
This is a great replicatable framework for guys who are new to phone game and the game in general.
Remember that it is a structure, not a script.
Over the phone don’t expect to have her cooing and seducing you immediately in the same way you dot expect her to be rubbing your nipples when you first meet her in person.
Come from the right place and you CAN’T NOT be attractive to her in the same way guys CAN’T NOT be attracted to a hot girl in a bikini.
A lot of guys go over the top in person and especially on the phone and sabotage themselves.
In the same way that guys are always hoping to find that babe girl to potentially hook up with girls are always looking for that particular type of attractive guy.
Give her a chance to project onto you what she wants to.
Your attractiveness to her is determined by your behaviour and smoothness in potentially turbulent situations.
If you sit back and stay ‘chill’ more often than not she will go out of her way to project onto you
what her reticular activation system is looking for in a guy.
Attraction isn’t something you can do for her, give her space to do it for herself
On the second call pitch the meet up unless it is blatantly obvious that she wants to meet up on the first call or she pitches it to you there and then herself. Go right ahead.
Otherwise, no need to rush, especially when you don’t know what you’re getting yourself into yet. If you rush she will perceive your rushing for sex, which she’s probably ok with but can’t justify acting upon.
On the second call pitch the meet up. This isn’t rocket surgery. Have something going on and bring her along with you. I would propose that a girl come with me to check out something my brother recommended but I couldn’t tell her what it was. Other times I would propose she join me at a fashion event, shopping or coming with me to my favourite coffee place.
Don’t make it about you and her, make it about what she has to do to prepare. I would request that the girl come to my house and bring candy and beer. I was joking, but often times this happened.
I would also suggest what to wear, either something cute or something warm depending on what I had in mind.
Set the date, ideally have her come to your place first and you go from there. More day two info is for another post.
If you get a flake post call pre meet up don’t over react. You have options and other potential things going on.
The first date wasn’t going to be an extravagant affair anyway so it’s no loss. If I get a flake and I don’t consider it to be a great loss I will just tell her it’s cool and tell her to call me when she wants to meet up next. Then I leave it at that.
Eventually she will call when she realises that you are genuinely indifferent and live in abundance. If she’s pulling some immature bullshit then I will call her lame for being immature and lose interest then and there. If you want to continue with the girl don’t be afraid to call a few days later and start the phone game process all over again. First call then second call style.
Don’t sweat the who-calls-who-more ratio.
If your feeing adventurous bust on her for flaking you. If it’s for a reason like study, fatigue or some other transparent bullshit then it’s time to up the stakes. I ask her what her address is for INVITATIONAL PURPOSES, she then sends it to me (this is the case 100% of the time) and I simply go and pay her a visit.
Showing up where she’s at is congruent with my sense of entitlement, confidence and playfulness. If you are not congruent with these things then this could be tricky and come off weird.
I have done this three times and have had three lays.
I drive to the location, find the girl and change her mood and mind right there. It’s very difficult to say no to a date to someone in person amplifying your state there in person saying
“SKO, SKO, SKO!”
Generally it goes down like this (this is the epitome of persistence):
Girl: hey what are you doing here!?
You: Hey I was baking a cake and I needed a cup of sugar and I was in the neighbourhood so I
thought I’d ask you because I am your neighbour (total illogicality).
You: Grab your coat! We’ll just hang out for fifteen minutes! SKO, SKO, SKO!
Girl’s mood is changed by having her state influenced in person and fifteen minutes turns into a full blown date. Be ultra light hearted and fun when you do this or IT WILL come off as creepy and weird.
Phone game is only really important between the meeting and hooking up. Once you have hooked up the girl will usually be invested beyond the point of no return.
In terms of text, I don’t go over the top with anything overly fancy except for some logistical organisation, meaningless sexual mis-interpretation banter, not trying for rapport and self amusement.For more on text game consult our expert Ryan.
More importantly, you understand the psychology and the contingencies behind the phone game, which will not only give you confidence in the process but the confidence will come through in the application of the process.
You will know why you are doing what you are doing and you will know why it will work. Cognitive and social empowerment.
Go forth, close the deal…
And as my mentor would say:
“DATE, FUCK WIN”
Leave a comment if you learnt something.
Alexander~
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That being said I cant think of anything more SOLID than this!
digesst it ligthly....
Tuesday, April 21, 2009
Comfort game is emotional addicting and great stuff..
Im in the middle of moving out of the apt which was someting aI greatly investing living in it.. my Best Friend told me to pack my shit and store it.and togo live with him for these next coupl of weeks...
My family is wanting for me to go to miami but you only live once in this life to live nyc...
If you read my posts maybe you can notice what things I v been going through...in game it was my comfort.
I had connected with one person in my life in late middle january after I had my first Same Day Lay with a horny older woman who I managed to talk my way into sex while I was creating tension on the phone. which I would have to say not being directly sxual is always good, mak her think about the sex and you pull back and tease her for her making you think dity thoughts in a subtle smooth way, not dancing monkey way.
In that connection I was attracted to her and I foeced IOI with my bodylanguage,eventhough Im not in shape, then Verbal attaction ALA Ryan RSD with takeaways....
I noticed in some women rapidly fast you trigger attraction quickly..this was one.
then I left and reviewed what I found of practical pickup advice since I didnt want to fuck up and my confidence was up there after the sex.
this helped me alot!
went back and created more attraction and made out with her several times..in felt that I was in LOVE it was genuine..then after something came up and I would spike her BT to counteract it , I was enjoying and learning at full speed, after the makeout in eleveator she had buyers remorse cause I didnt escalate propely and didnt lead with non sexual timebridge...then I went into persuer mode and chasing her texting her to meet up and I felt she did like me but she still like my best friend....
I got needy and aggressiv which I now why I fucked everything up...
that was one important time I felt in Love with a woman and attracted to her geinely cause she was funny and I had built comfort through qualification.
for me social cirlce game Im a killer! I fucked up so badly even when I was asked out by 3 girls from Holland to go out I acted like a Asshole then just being cool loveable guy..I had wrong concept of ALPHA and Social proof knowledge and fear kept me from going for the meet up.
NOW ! as per my Insadat and after seeing entropy and Doc Holliday, entropy master of comfort game!
I made the instadate and comfort deep like I never experienced before...I fell in Love with that feeling on emotional connection that its fucking me up...making me needy for a fix of that...
other that I have certain psychic abilities from my mothers side which I normally dont talk about and havent explored it...which I strong empathic vibes from peoples energy....
I choose to serve people in society as a healer , artist, doctor.
Ive been the guiltist person to like a girl and wanting to go out with her right away and express my feelings for her....
I fucked up like that alot so I had to play SOLID GAME.
I was criticized by Sinn once that I was always taking unecessary risks trying to close girls without solid game.by playing it "FOOLSMATE GAME".
It took me failures and dissapointments to finally realize that I have to play SOLID GAME always and when time is right and an opportunity appears then close on same night instead of tying to close all girls on same night .
The old me , went to movies,kissed in the middle of a date walked her around and next date was at her place for sex. I wasuneedy and always acting like an attractive guy asking the girl I knew she wanted me, I think that mindset was what made me close her.
NOW into game I became a robot and too specific nerdy ...that confuses people more.
so back to instadate girl...
I had to put her on phone freeze out as per previous post so then I dont come off as incongruent....
needy and having frame control and being unaffected whetehr its goodor bad just expeince and lesson learned.
I asked the master of comfort himself for help....cause comfort material is vague in this community so here it is lesson for today!
KEYS TO EMOTIONAL SOULMATE CONNECTION
Thats the thing about good comfort and connection game man,
she doesn't just feel it,
YOU DO TOO!
It's a great feeling.
The way to stay non-needy is to remember that you can feel these emotions with most women,
so even though she's awesome, there's nothing particularly unique about this situation.
You can recreate these emotions time and time again.
As far as her being gamey... I'd just be direct and polite.
Say, "I want to see you again, we should meet up,"
You never know. She may have a very busy life or be in the middle of a ton of stuff this week.
You never know. So don't read too much into it.
Entropy PUA
Boston's Best Pick up Artist
My family is wanting for me to go to miami but you only live once in this life to live nyc...
If you read my posts maybe you can notice what things I v been going through...in game it was my comfort.
I had connected with one person in my life in late middle january after I had my first Same Day Lay with a horny older woman who I managed to talk my way into sex while I was creating tension on the phone. which I would have to say not being directly sxual is always good, mak her think about the sex and you pull back and tease her for her making you think dity thoughts in a subtle smooth way, not dancing monkey way.
In that connection I was attracted to her and I foeced IOI with my bodylanguage,eventhough Im not in shape, then Verbal attaction ALA Ryan RSD with takeaways....
I noticed in some women rapidly fast you trigger attraction quickly..this was one.
then I left and reviewed what I found of practical pickup advice since I didnt want to fuck up and my confidence was up there after the sex.
this helped me alot!
went back and created more attraction and made out with her several times..in felt that I was in LOVE it was genuine..then after something came up and I would spike her BT to counteract it , I was enjoying and learning at full speed, after the makeout in eleveator she had buyers remorse cause I didnt escalate propely and didnt lead with non sexual timebridge...then I went into persuer mode and chasing her texting her to meet up and I felt she did like me but she still like my best friend....
I got needy and aggressiv which I now why I fucked everything up...
that was one important time I felt in Love with a woman and attracted to her geinely cause she was funny and I had built comfort through qualification.
for me social cirlce game Im a killer! I fucked up so badly even when I was asked out by 3 girls from Holland to go out I acted like a Asshole then just being cool loveable guy..I had wrong concept of ALPHA and Social proof knowledge and fear kept me from going for the meet up.
NOW ! as per my Insadat and after seeing entropy and Doc Holliday, entropy master of comfort game!
I made the instadate and comfort deep like I never experienced before...I fell in Love with that feeling on emotional connection that its fucking me up...making me needy for a fix of that...
other that I have certain psychic abilities from my mothers side which I normally dont talk about and havent explored it...which I strong empathic vibes from peoples energy....
I choose to serve people in society as a healer , artist, doctor.
Ive been the guiltist person to like a girl and wanting to go out with her right away and express my feelings for her....
I fucked up like that alot so I had to play SOLID GAME.
I was criticized by Sinn once that I was always taking unecessary risks trying to close girls without solid game.by playing it "FOOLSMATE GAME".
It took me failures and dissapointments to finally realize that I have to play SOLID GAME always and when time is right and an opportunity appears then close on same night instead of tying to close all girls on same night .
The old me , went to movies,kissed in the middle of a date walked her around and next date was at her place for sex. I wasuneedy and always acting like an attractive guy asking the girl I knew she wanted me, I think that mindset was what made me close her.
NOW into game I became a robot and too specific nerdy ...that confuses people more.
so back to instadate girl...
I had to put her on phone freeze out as per previous post so then I dont come off as incongruent....
needy and having frame control and being unaffected whetehr its goodor bad just expeince and lesson learned.
I asked the master of comfort himself for help....cause comfort material is vague in this community so here it is lesson for today!
KEYS TO EMOTIONAL SOULMATE CONNECTION
Thats the thing about good comfort and connection game man,
she doesn't just feel it,
YOU DO TOO!
It's a great feeling.
The way to stay non-needy is to remember that you can feel these emotions with most women,
so even though she's awesome, there's nothing particularly unique about this situation.
You can recreate these emotions time and time again.
As far as her being gamey... I'd just be direct and polite.
Say, "I want to see you again, we should meet up,"
You never know. She may have a very busy life or be in the middle of a ton of stuff this week.
You never know. So don't read too much into it.
Entropy PUA
Boston's Best Pick up Artist
Sunday, April 19, 2009
Mindgames and Strategy intuition on how to manage recommunication or situation
I noticed today that alot of people get caught up.... the emotional drain when you are preparing for a date or communicating
I followed the model on following up with women... brought up by Doc Holliday. http://www.entropypua.com/blog/dead-phone-numbers
Its field experience and testing waters with what she is feeling....
or what she is doing that brings me to this post,
All women react on an emotional level stronger than logical.
"buyers remorse" theory is evident in dealing with situation.
Not all women are all the same...why?
some have mindgames,some like validation,some have deserveness issues...
PU to find out how it works could take over a lifetime....
its how to know wht to do and how to deal with it....
as mentioned always keep your cool.... you calibrate always, end convo always and get her more into you than you into her....
I remember reading Paul Janka's obsession... I may re-read that btw.
and when she does that, you HAVE to do the opposite to get the result with some women.
the ones Im dealing with now arent the best, Im not in best shapr either...
Its emotionally drainning sometimes.....
but dont show needyness,even though you want her NEVER SHOW IT !
I failed the follow up to the instadate ... I asked her out within that same day I met her...
WRONG! We guys have our emotional side too cause I felt a connection and I felt her horniness. LOL.
she didnt return my text today after I had called her this morning to set up for a date followed
MEHOW's Model.
always go back to the needyness defined by Sinn post.
more important because I forgot these rules! I credit AWAKEN who pointed out once when he was coaching when I would appraoch it would show I had an agenda so I had to lean these rules and act like I wasnt sexually into her.
MAKE IT A HABIT TO REVIEW THIS BEFORE PHONE GAME OR INTERACTING WITH WOMEN
Tao of steve movie helped me alot..when I was starting off ..but you as a guy when you meet the girl that you want YOU MUST FOLLOW this .
FOLLOW THE RULES:
1.Eliminate all desire when around the woman. Be desireless.Eliminate your desires.
2.Do something excellent in her presence, thereby proving your sexual worthiness.
3.Retreat, "We pursue that which retreats from us". Be gone.
Be desire less
1.Being desire less and detached from results in any situation is one key to his effectiveness. Being desire less you can be just be yourself and be “totally in the moment”,
and not worried about a specific outcome.
When you telegraph to a woman with your body language that you don’t have any objective,
her attraction for you will likely go up.
The fact that you are getting to know the women as a person and not a sex object will work in your favor.
Never try to impress women.
The key is to show interest only after you have validated this woman as someone worthy of your time.
2.Be excellent.
Dex demonstrated excellence through his wit, banter, quest for knowledge, and cooking. If you have a talent, by all means grasp the opportunity to display
3. Be gone .
One of Dex’s favorite lines was
“we retreat from that which pursues us.”
What that basically means is that women don’t like guys who follow them around like puppy dogs.
In life, you want to end every encounter with the other party wanting more.
Don’t over stay your welcome.
Any successful relationship is give and take in equal amounts.
Once one party is trying harder then the other party, the relationship is in trouble.
I think this movie contains some great dating tips for men.
Once you become a Steve your love life will surely improve.
I had great time meeting up with Adam , Speer and Northen nights.
PS: Plan is for HBminesota is to turn tables on her and lead her to meet up with non sexual cause:
Heya blondie ; )
I have a bad late night snack habit ?
I love eating ice cream
My fingers hurt ? Want ice cream?
Then wait for a response and call her
convo:
is this a booty call?
my finger hurt and now you givng me shit,
no I said ICE CREAM not booty call its spelled different,
why do stupid girls always think meeting up is about sex; )
ICE cream ,at my place, ; )
I cant eat all of it we will eat it together that way it will be half the calories. LOL.
come over eat ic cream !then I take you back to your place.
What are you gonna do?
you are such a flake you know what I got so much stuff going
I followed the model on following up with women... brought up by Doc Holliday. http://www.entropypua.com/blog/dead-phone-numbers
Its field experience and testing waters with what she is feeling....
or what she is doing that brings me to this post,
All women react on an emotional level stronger than logical.
"buyers remorse" theory is evident in dealing with situation.
Not all women are all the same...why?
some have mindgames,some like validation,some have deserveness issues...
PU to find out how it works could take over a lifetime....
its how to know wht to do and how to deal with it....
as mentioned always keep your cool.... you calibrate always, end convo always and get her more into you than you into her....
I remember reading Paul Janka's obsession... I may re-read that btw.
and when she does that, you HAVE to do the opposite to get the result with some women.
the ones Im dealing with now arent the best, Im not in best shapr either...
Its emotionally drainning sometimes.....
but dont show needyness,even though you want her NEVER SHOW IT !
I failed the follow up to the instadate ... I asked her out within that same day I met her...
WRONG! We guys have our emotional side too cause I felt a connection and I felt her horniness. LOL.
she didnt return my text today after I had called her this morning to set up for a date followed
MEHOW's Model.
always go back to the needyness defined by Sinn post.
more important because I forgot these rules! I credit AWAKEN who pointed out once when he was coaching when I would appraoch it would show I had an agenda so I had to lean these rules and act like I wasnt sexually into her.
MAKE IT A HABIT TO REVIEW THIS BEFORE PHONE GAME OR INTERACTING WITH WOMEN
Tao of steve movie helped me alot..when I was starting off ..but you as a guy when you meet the girl that you want YOU MUST FOLLOW this .
FOLLOW THE RULES:
1.Eliminate all desire when around the woman. Be desireless.Eliminate your desires.
2.Do something excellent in her presence, thereby proving your sexual worthiness.
3.Retreat, "We pursue that which retreats from us". Be gone.
Be desire less
1.Being desire less and detached from results in any situation is one key to his effectiveness. Being desire less you can be just be yourself and be “totally in the moment”,
and not worried about a specific outcome.
When you telegraph to a woman with your body language that you don’t have any objective,
her attraction for you will likely go up.
The fact that you are getting to know the women as a person and not a sex object will work in your favor.
Never try to impress women.
The key is to show interest only after you have validated this woman as someone worthy of your time.
2.Be excellent.
Dex demonstrated excellence through his wit, banter, quest for knowledge, and cooking. If you have a talent, by all means grasp the opportunity to display
3. Be gone .
One of Dex’s favorite lines was
“we retreat from that which pursues us.”
What that basically means is that women don’t like guys who follow them around like puppy dogs.
In life, you want to end every encounter with the other party wanting more.
Don’t over stay your welcome.
Any successful relationship is give and take in equal amounts.
Once one party is trying harder then the other party, the relationship is in trouble.
I think this movie contains some great dating tips for men.
Once you become a Steve your love life will surely improve.
I had great time meeting up with Adam , Speer and Northen nights.
PS: Plan is for HBminesota is to turn tables on her and lead her to meet up with non sexual cause:
Heya blondie ; )
I have a bad late night snack habit ?
I love eating ice cream
My fingers hurt ? Want ice cream?
Then wait for a response and call her
convo:
is this a booty call?
my finger hurt and now you givng me shit,
no I said ICE CREAM not booty call its spelled different,
why do stupid girls always think meeting up is about sex; )
ICE cream ,at my place, ; )
I cant eat all of it we will eat it together that way it will be half the calories. LOL.
come over eat ic cream !then I take you back to your place.
What are you gonna do?
you are such a flake you know what I got so much stuff going
Saturday, April 18, 2009
Be a strong dominant friendly GUY !
Whats up guys !
Ive been seriously tired and working on certain other stuff going on...
But most importantly My BODY! had a chance to do some daygame and hang out with my homie...
I reviewed my game and after my mistakes and escalation as always I think experience is THE BEST!
THE BEST thing to do is to have a plan and take action, any idea or suggestion isn't valid until you put it into effect or ACTION- Eltopo
Taking risks or being bold is more about leading and closing
In the real world.....
she knows if she is going to fuck or not, she either likes you or not...
You either gain her admiration and respect or you lose her attraction.
attraction is interest.
its what you do after you got her invested.
I had to review and debrief this week on my game and my Life
debreifing comes from the business world to keep working on improving what needs work.
when this happens this turns into something awesomely cool that really helps me to work.
seeeing the time frame vs. the years into this without being focused...in a matter of days you can improve fast.
I just cant see myself like I was jus reading and not going out rarely...its not worth it....
you either do it or drop it...
you can have muscle memory but once this gets all into experience it will never leave and you will know what to do next level.
game is personalized , if we are incongruent then she will leave and think something is wrong with you which creates social inept on your behalf.
I self evaluated myself once again very harshly and realistically.
But its the only way to learn to be good is to fail and get advice or help on how to improve...
I remmebr afte getting upset after getting rejected or having a bad night, I want to give up..
At this point Im beyond all that and being realisitc about what I need to work on....
Ross Jeffries said once: " Guys want to be super pick up guy, but when in reality they should be focus being better than the other lame guy"
My biggest drawback aside of my verbal game improving.
IS MY WEIGHT!
I understand that why I got AMOGD and how it isnt sexy or social accepted being overweight.
I think once I get that and work on persuassion skills I m set!
tightest game is to have a woman so aroused that she would want to have sex with you rather than you
"trying to sleep with her" = LMR
Guys are supposed to lead to seduction location in a non sexual way then escalate....
My game is much better than it was back in febrary I got to say that in March going out straight changed me.
BUT!
My new assignment in game is :
Making her chase me and working the
PIE !
Persuassion :on a working ladder verbal escalation to get compliance
Comfort which includes:
Qualification whithin sexual frames
Convo skills excersize
Improv topics
being funny
some storys
memorize 3 NLP/Hypnosis patterns
blaming her that she is dirty minded to get her to comply to meet at seduction location
Ice cream!
---------------------------------------------------------
Hmmm... got to go guys : )
Props to Rod!
Im gaming tonight chill
Sunday is going to be smashin' meeting up with Northern Nights and Adam ....
btw Props to Jsmooth....!
OUT!
Ive been seriously tired and working on certain other stuff going on...
But most importantly My BODY! had a chance to do some daygame and hang out with my homie...
I reviewed my game and after my mistakes and escalation as always I think experience is THE BEST!
THE BEST thing to do is to have a plan and take action, any idea or suggestion isn't valid until you put it into effect or ACTION- Eltopo
Taking risks or being bold is more about leading and closing
In the real world.....
she knows if she is going to fuck or not, she either likes you or not...
You either gain her admiration and respect or you lose her attraction.
attraction is interest.
its what you do after you got her invested.
I had to review and debrief this week on my game and my Life
debreifing comes from the business world to keep working on improving what needs work.
when this happens this turns into something awesomely cool that really helps me to work.
seeeing the time frame vs. the years into this without being focused...in a matter of days you can improve fast.
I just cant see myself like I was jus reading and not going out rarely...its not worth it....
you either do it or drop it...
you can have muscle memory but once this gets all into experience it will never leave and you will know what to do next level.
game is personalized , if we are incongruent then she will leave and think something is wrong with you which creates social inept on your behalf.
I self evaluated myself once again very harshly and realistically.
But its the only way to learn to be good is to fail and get advice or help on how to improve...
I remmebr afte getting upset after getting rejected or having a bad night, I want to give up..
At this point Im beyond all that and being realisitc about what I need to work on....
Ross Jeffries said once: " Guys want to be super pick up guy, but when in reality they should be focus being better than the other lame guy"
My biggest drawback aside of my verbal game improving.
IS MY WEIGHT!
I understand that why I got AMOGD and how it isnt sexy or social accepted being overweight.
I think once I get that and work on persuassion skills I m set!
tightest game is to have a woman so aroused that she would want to have sex with you rather than you
"trying to sleep with her" = LMR
Guys are supposed to lead to seduction location in a non sexual way then escalate....
My game is much better than it was back in febrary I got to say that in March going out straight changed me.
BUT!
My new assignment in game is :
Making her chase me and working the
PIE !
Persuassion :on a working ladder verbal escalation to get compliance
Comfort which includes:
Qualification whithin sexual frames
Convo skills excersize
Improv topics
being funny
some storys
memorize 3 NLP/Hypnosis patterns
blaming her that she is dirty minded to get her to comply to meet at seduction location
Ice cream!
---------------------------------------------------------
Hmmm... got to go guys : )
Props to Rod!
Im gaming tonight chill
Sunday is going to be smashin' meeting up with Northern Nights and Adam ....
btw Props to Jsmooth....!
OUT!
Friday, April 17, 2009
Sticking points review -April 18, 2009
1- conveying too much sexual needyness when I go for close- I go in too sexual aggressive
I should use non sexual way to get her to seduction location
2-too eager to meet up
conveys that I dont have anything going on , I should play more hard to get
3- Foolsmate game
I try to close too fast too soon,too sexual...Im still in diapers to pull fast
4-Build more comfort and Qualification
I have to screen and make her work hard
5- PASSIVE VALUE
I have to be realistic about where I am....
Im overweight and its a MAJOR sticking point
I get AMOGGD and Its something that either have a tighter game or work on the looks department.
In my case Im looking into both.
when its time to choose a guy , she will pick the better looking.
I think Daygame is better in a lot of ways than night.
Night is good social scenario to learn but I have to have social proof to pull or time bridge at night.
I should use non sexual way to get her to seduction location
2-too eager to meet up
conveys that I dont have anything going on , I should play more hard to get
3- Foolsmate game
I try to close too fast too soon,too sexual...Im still in diapers to pull fast
4-Build more comfort and Qualification
I have to screen and make her work hard
5- PASSIVE VALUE
I have to be realistic about where I am....
Im overweight and its a MAJOR sticking point
I get AMOGGD and Its something that either have a tighter game or work on the looks department.
In my case Im looking into both.
when its time to choose a guy , she will pick the better looking.
I think Daygame is better in a lot of ways than night.
Night is good social scenario to learn but I have to have social proof to pull or time bridge at night.
Neediness Defined by Sinn
I saw this Post and want to look at it every day,for the rest of my life....
when its time to close or escalate it comes off too needy ...
my phone game needs to build qualification and comfort
my pursuit to meet up with her only pushes her away....
break rapport
thanks Sinn
Neediness Defined
What’s up hombres,
Today I wanted to briefly talk about being needy.
Neediness is one of the biggest sticking points guys have when they first get into the dating scene.
Neediness generally comes from an inner psychology point of view from scarcity.
When you are not meeting a lot of women, or getting laid it can be difficult to not over pursue when you are getting good signals from a girl.
A lot of people misunderstand what constitutes neediness. Calling a girl 3 times a day can be needy or can build a connection. It all depends on one thing. If the girl is reciprocating. If she’s calling you or texting you back then it’s not needy to keep contacting her.
If she stops and you keep going you’re being needy.If you always try to hang out with a girl and she is always saying no but you keep asking, you’re being needy. If the girl always ends the interaction first and you try to keep her there as long as you can, you guessed it needy.
So how do you keep from coming off needy?
First it helps to have other things going on in your life. It’s much harder to be needy the busier you are.
Second you never want to send more than one form of communication a day without a response. If you call her and she doesn’t call back, don’t text her, facebook her etc…
Third, don’t call every day unless she’s calling you an equal amount. You don’t want to call every day unless she’s reciprocating.
Fourth make sure you end every interaction. Yes this is stupid game playing that the rules would be proud of, but it works.
Fifth, don’t spill deep feelings right away, you can flatter a girl as much as you want as long as you don’t allude to a future or confess feelings that you are inappropriate until after you’ve slept with her.
And lastly don’t think about having a relationship with a girl before you’ve selpt with her at least 3 times.
Until you’ve had repeated sexual encounters keep that thought out of your head as it can make you captain needy.
Hope that clears things up.
S
when its time to close or escalate it comes off too needy ...
my phone game needs to build qualification and comfort
my pursuit to meet up with her only pushes her away....
break rapport
thanks Sinn
Neediness Defined
What’s up hombres,
Today I wanted to briefly talk about being needy.
Neediness is one of the biggest sticking points guys have when they first get into the dating scene.
Neediness generally comes from an inner psychology point of view from scarcity.
When you are not meeting a lot of women, or getting laid it can be difficult to not over pursue when you are getting good signals from a girl.
A lot of people misunderstand what constitutes neediness. Calling a girl 3 times a day can be needy or can build a connection. It all depends on one thing. If the girl is reciprocating. If she’s calling you or texting you back then it’s not needy to keep contacting her.
If she stops and you keep going you’re being needy.If you always try to hang out with a girl and she is always saying no but you keep asking, you’re being needy. If the girl always ends the interaction first and you try to keep her there as long as you can, you guessed it needy.
So how do you keep from coming off needy?
First it helps to have other things going on in your life. It’s much harder to be needy the busier you are.
Second you never want to send more than one form of communication a day without a response. If you call her and she doesn’t call back, don’t text her, facebook her etc…
Third, don’t call every day unless she’s calling you an equal amount. You don’t want to call every day unless she’s reciprocating.
Fourth make sure you end every interaction. Yes this is stupid game playing that the rules would be proud of, but it works.
Fifth, don’t spill deep feelings right away, you can flatter a girl as much as you want as long as you don’t allude to a future or confess feelings that you are inappropriate until after you’ve slept with her.
And lastly don’t think about having a relationship with a girl before you’ve selpt with her at least 3 times.
Until you’ve had repeated sexual encounters keep that thought out of your head as it can make you captain needy.
Hope that clears things up.
S
a breakdown revelation of the mindset of sucessful PUA
He says "not being outcome dependent yet goal oriented"
"this is a numbers game , a skillset"
MY translation:
You say to yourself......
" I dont care anymore whether I get her or not, I will be sincere to my heart that I dont care, I dont need her.......
but I will take it astep further, work hard and smart on it , work quality not quantity,
for me to experience and learn from it the right way,
Whether good or bad..it will always be good cause in the past the bad only a lesson I got from the girl on how to do it right and experience to back up that I can succeed ! "
"this is a numbers game , a skillset"
others say "be emotionally detached"
MY translation:
You say to yourself......
" I dont care anymore whether I get her or not, I will be sincere to my heart that I dont care, I dont need her.......
but I will take it astep further, work hard and smart on it , work quality not quantity,
for me to experience and learn from it the right way,
Whether good or bad..it will always be good cause in the past the bad only a lesson I got from the girl on how to do it right and experience to back up that I can succeed ! "
Thursday, April 16, 2009
Day 1 -FR: 1 st Instadate ! WOO HOOOO! and hbminestota blondie txt msgs again! pull
I only appracohed 3 girls daygame and yet I got on a roll , I woke up in my friends apt.
I was looking at RSD transformations sample and jeffy show clips...
That pumped me up and my day was shiny
I like Jeffy style and shows that he is roundabout guy
.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjpsc1bMbD8&feature=related
"do you want to have a lame life ? when you die you want to say you have a lame life?"
"Lets make the myths"
I have the balls to do crazy shit like him, Im not shy...
FR: Daygame HB:Jersey teach
I went to best buy I had a girl AI and on video camera section I acted like Im looking at it and she became super invested I opend with
"You are being film, you will be all over youtube!" this is showing direct interest in a fun way..take it or leave it
boom magic! she role play and went into porn....I used entropy conversation skills excersize I did in Boston.
stack with doc hollidays comfort and qualification... I felt the pick up was mutual.
she is funny and open minded.. I like her sense of humor
I was leaving and we left together I felt I was being gamed abit
she didnt kino me at all and I kinoed after......
instadated her lockd her in with a drink she was going to pay and I paid 2 bucks his made me not looke cheap and I that I wasnt eager to do it.
and took me to bed bath and beyond.. I was going for the fuck close and she had a legitimate time contstraint.
I acted confused and hadto self corect it to not look like a pick up..she got my phone and number closed me ...that is investment and aggressive...AKA wants COCK! LOL.
I made the mistake of not leading the Convo and at times letting the silence kindah kill it.....
You end the interaction!!!! http://sinnsofattraction.blogspot.com/2009/04/neediness-deined.html
it makes a huge difference...cause ore time I lost the set...you come off needy and passive when you show more invstment cause it shows that he is leading....
be always well dressed , have comfort stories (entropy's new model)
lean ot improv convos and use commmonality term to build repport in subtle way...it becomes ninja esque
as per CJ:LR good girl bad girl face
I didn trealize and wasnt aware that when she was closing I wanted to make out with her..I looked her in the eyes romantically wanting it...I wanted to close BUT not SURE if that would have been a CHODE needy move or BOLD move in nightgame it would have been CLOSE!
after that I felt we parted ways the convo silence was awkward, but she called me "LUCKY" and shewas very cool ...I just felt I need to LEAD more and SMILE like ADAM's Style...
I textd her :
6;45pm : Hey D thanks for being my tour guide ; ) lol
6; 50 pm: what are you doing later?
7;05pm; HB jersey coach: Im not free tonight. Glad you liked the tour.Hope you got some nice shoes !
7;15pm: I like you too ; ) fount out she doesnt work there anymore luckily I called store : P
( I wasnt in state, and I was too try hard ,then again I could be distracted )
But Then after thepick up I was in subway saw a cuite red hair chubby just my type .. I opend her question complement following sinn's LSE= HSE model
I was in too much hype
and over did takeaway and went downhill but got number ...it was fine there but when for hug and kiss goodbye and my kino was off and she felt social awkward huggin at 145st in halem LOL..
lesson leaned not do touching more verbal game when its a fast pu in daygame ....Im a big guy
if instadate then touch...lock in! assume like a couple make her follow youre lead..calibrate not too asy yet not too asshole.LOL.
but sexual needy vibe killed it at the end...she didnt respond to follow up text....I wanted to close but wasnt smart..in Sinn's LR mentioned sexual needineesss at end you avoid it for pull..thats my problem...
I get a gut feeling to kiss a girl.
I was looking at RSD transformations sample and jeffy show clips...
That pumped me up and my day was shiny
I like Jeffy style and shows that he is roundabout guy
.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjpsc1bMbD8&feature=related
"do you want to have a lame life ? when you die you want to say you have a lame life?"
"Lets make the myths"
I have the balls to do crazy shit like him, Im not shy...
FR: Daygame HB:Jersey teach
I went to best buy I had a girl AI and on video camera section I acted like Im looking at it and she became super invested I opend with
"You are being film, you will be all over youtube!" this is showing direct interest in a fun way..take it or leave it
boom magic! she role play and went into porn....I used entropy conversation skills excersize I did in Boston.
stack with doc hollidays comfort and qualification... I felt the pick up was mutual.
she is funny and open minded.. I like her sense of humor
I was leaving and we left together I felt I was being gamed abit
she didnt kino me at all and I kinoed after......
instadated her lockd her in with a drink she was going to pay and I paid 2 bucks his made me not looke cheap and I that I wasnt eager to do it.
and took me to bed bath and beyond.. I was going for the fuck close and she had a legitimate time contstraint.
I acted confused and hadto self corect it to not look like a pick up..she got my phone and number closed me ...that is investment and aggressive...AKA wants COCK! LOL.
I made the mistake of not leading the Convo and at times letting the silence kindah kill it.....
You end the interaction!!!! http://sinnsofattraction.blogspot.com/2009/04/neediness-deined.html
it makes a huge difference...cause ore time I lost the set...you come off needy and passive when you show more invstment cause it shows that he is leading....
be always well dressed , have comfort stories (entropy's new model)
lean ot improv convos and use commmonality term to build repport in subtle way...it becomes ninja esque
as per CJ:LR good girl bad girl face
I didn trealize and wasnt aware that when she was closing I wanted to make out with her..I looked her in the eyes romantically wanting it...I wanted to close BUT not SURE if that would have been a CHODE needy move or BOLD move in nightgame it would have been CLOSE!
after that I felt we parted ways the convo silence was awkward, but she called me "LUCKY" and shewas very cool ...I just felt I need to LEAD more and SMILE like ADAM's Style...
I textd her :
6;45pm : Hey D thanks for being my tour guide ; ) lol
6; 50 pm: what are you doing later?
7;05pm; HB jersey coach: Im not free tonight. Glad you liked the tour.Hope you got some nice shoes !
7;15pm: I like you too ; ) fount out she doesnt work there anymore luckily I called store : P
( I wasnt in state, and I was too try hard ,then again I could be distracted )
But Then after thepick up I was in subway saw a cuite red hair chubby just my type .. I opend her question complement following sinn's LSE= HSE model
I was in too much hype
and over did takeaway and went downhill but got number ...it was fine there but when for hug and kiss goodbye and my kino was off and she felt social awkward huggin at 145st in halem LOL..
lesson leaned not do touching more verbal game when its a fast pu in daygame ....Im a big guy
if instadate then touch...lock in! assume like a couple make her follow youre lead..calibrate not too asy yet not too asshole.LOL.
but sexual needy vibe killed it at the end...she didnt respond to follow up text....I wanted to close but wasnt smart..in Sinn's LR mentioned sexual needineesss at end you avoid it for pull..thats my problem...
I get a gut feeling to kiss a girl.
ROAD TRIPS and leaving nyc
Im super happy and I fucked up and got cool text and emails from guys..thanks!
My best friend and collegue is moving I was sad cause he is my true best friend...
I really dont care anymore...and as you notice a pattern of women who are into guys that dont care is reality....
So Im going to run the train, close... Im at that level to close
Comfort has imorived and I feel that overall attraction and qualifiacation within comfort and frames is really it adding in emotional levels within the interaction
but Close!
alot of guys dont get laid read laot of shit , I stoped that.. only guys I read are the guys in my blog post...and usually once in awhile.
Im broke but now last days in nyc gonna make it happen.
court date went well and my friend offered me a road trip from nyc to san diego....
Im definately going to push buttons on different levels and aside from pick up which something that I miscalibrated from my life and many of the best guys out there is money....
I've got thrown out of school but more of their fault cause I was hospitalized....
went to orange hair 6ft talkl girl I wa going to pull and her blondei freind but got negative social proof from not pulling so
like brad and jeffy says
is better to overescalaate than to not escalate!
thing is not to show sexual neediness...
i will post on it later!
My best friend and collegue is moving I was sad cause he is my true best friend...
I really dont care anymore...and as you notice a pattern of women who are into guys that dont care is reality....
So Im going to run the train, close... Im at that level to close
Comfort has imorived and I feel that overall attraction and qualifiacation within comfort and frames is really it adding in emotional levels within the interaction
but Close!
alot of guys dont get laid read laot of shit , I stoped that.. only guys I read are the guys in my blog post...and usually once in awhile.
Im broke but now last days in nyc gonna make it happen.
court date went well and my friend offered me a road trip from nyc to san diego....
Im definately going to push buttons on different levels and aside from pick up which something that I miscalibrated from my life and many of the best guys out there is money....
I've got thrown out of school but more of their fault cause I was hospitalized....
went to orange hair 6ft talkl girl I wa going to pull and her blondei freind but got negative social proof from not pulling so
like brad and jeffy says
is better to overescalaate than to not escalate!
thing is not to show sexual neediness...
i will post on it later!
Wednesday, April 15, 2009
starting over 30 day challenge
Im working on closing the deals...i have 2 girls fom miami exting me to meet up but im here in nyc...
i have the hired gun texting me at 3 am....i think its more than a sign to fuck at this point...
I had a girl call me minutes later that shee wanted to see me and wanted to "party"
I was at a friends house and I wasnt in state..plus my friend was going to get up at 5 am and this is 3 am...
where the fuk was i gonna get "party" ? LOL
well Im starting today 30 day challenge day game night game no excuses... and learn from the streets....
Im starting weight trainning to get in shape ... Im overweight fucker and my game will be easier once I get in shape and get more attention from girls....
laters
i have the hired gun texting me at 3 am....i think its more than a sign to fuck at this point...
I had a girl call me minutes later that shee wanted to see me and wanted to "party"
I was at a friends house and I wasnt in state..plus my friend was going to get up at 5 am and this is 3 am...
where the fuk was i gonna get "party" ? LOL
well Im starting today 30 day challenge day game night game no excuses... and learn from the streets....
Im starting weight trainning to get in shape ... Im overweight fucker and my game will be easier once I get in shape and get more attention from girls....
laters
Monday, April 13, 2009
Experience in pua basd on failures and ideal interactions evaluated I saw in movies!
I was with my friend last night...
slept over texted a couple of girls ...
and we saw a shit load of movies from least important to most!
1- knocked up.... which is ok, but shows how to befunny and not to serious about yourself but too many DLVs... I liked how he stood up and gained attraction from the sister..that was attraction! dont deny it turned her on! after he slept with her how he treated her in comfort game was awesome....can work.
2-Live nude girls with kim catrall 1995 - another weird movie but its like chick flick with 3somes and stuff how women think... they dont take sex as emotional as AFC's the experiment and enjoy it...like food to satisfy hunger...
3-eastbound hbo- was funny as hell but I learned more that how he is an asshole yet a loveable asshole...
luvable jerk nota nice guy....but dont try it at home....how jerk calibrates teases and and
negs and not supplicant. she left to be with himthan nice guy.
4- Enoturage - how the guy has AI and know they want to fuck him, and prsonality wise what not to do...
Johhnny drama DOESNT know how to DHV! he brags!!!! painful to watch!
5- Boiler room- MAD awesome how to run comfort game and kino escalate before sex....
6- Young and tempting a midnight movie- this is a smi porn movie but I learned alot fromhow he calibrates wanting her and getting her to want him...how and when to get her on you....
THIS IS AWESOME TO HAVE SOCIAL INTELIGENCE WHAT SECRET SOCIETY TYLER TALKS ABOUT!
only thing has drama but in real life its kindah how women act and sleep with women.
7- Good Luck CHuck ; how he learns to experiment to sleep woth alot of women and how sexual they are to how he shows NEEEDY NESS and turns her OFF !
the othe rguy masturbates is so AFC and how not to DHV!
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another one is swingers and 9 1/2 weeks but thouse midnightmovies are like the romance novels women see..and I noticed how they talk about their emotions seems so real life yet explicit!
http://www.imdb.com/company/co0079408/
slept over texted a couple of girls ...
and we saw a shit load of movies from least important to most!
1- knocked up.... which is ok, but shows how to befunny and not to serious about yourself but too many DLVs... I liked how he stood up and gained attraction from the sister..that was attraction! dont deny it turned her on! after he slept with her how he treated her in comfort game was awesome....can work.
2-Live nude girls with kim catrall 1995 - another weird movie but its like chick flick with 3somes and stuff how women think... they dont take sex as emotional as AFC's the experiment and enjoy it...like food to satisfy hunger...
3-eastbound hbo- was funny as hell but I learned more that how he is an asshole yet a loveable asshole...
luvable jerk nota nice guy....but dont try it at home....how jerk calibrates teases and and
negs and not supplicant. she left to be with himthan nice guy.
4- Enoturage - how the guy has AI and know they want to fuck him, and prsonality wise what not to do...
Johhnny drama DOESNT know how to DHV! he brags!!!! painful to watch!
5- Boiler room- MAD awesome how to run comfort game and kino escalate before sex....
6- Young and tempting a midnight movie- this is a smi porn movie but I learned alot fromhow he calibrates wanting her and getting her to want him...how and when to get her on you....
THIS IS AWESOME TO HAVE SOCIAL INTELIGENCE WHAT SECRET SOCIETY TYLER TALKS ABOUT!
only thing has drama but in real life its kindah how women act and sleep with women.
7- Good Luck CHuck ; how he learns to experiment to sleep woth alot of women and how sexual they are to how he shows NEEEDY NESS and turns her OFF !
the othe rguy masturbates is so AFC and how not to DHV!
-----------------------
another one is swingers and 9 1/2 weeks but thouse midnightmovies are like the romance novels women see..and I noticed how they talk about their emotions seems so real life yet explicit!
http://www.imdb.com/company/co0079408/
Sunday, April 12, 2009
Boston Depart-due
I was in Boston, saw entropy and doc holliday..met maysin.
all PUA's best in Boston. great guys Im surprised I didnt improve to be MMMPPPUA . but I had them evaluate me.
After I relaized how lucky
I was to have a group of cool guys to work with...
Doc looked happy and I hadto hug the guy.. I literrally almost cried cause he was close friend and his journey just startd yet he became what I always wanted..to be awesomely sick with women.
Entropy showed some of his new material and I wanted to go over comfort but he didnt ...doc did his part ..
I was going to stay to hangout but having so much responsability I couldnt ...
It was the last practical pickup bootcamp....
I had to contact saffron whom to me was one of the best things to know him cause he is so aggressive yet been busy with his work....
I admit to fucking up at this point where I was near graduating and now POOF on the street....
I saw myself after the pics i took with them.. and damn im fucking huge my brother was right about being huge but Im fucking better looking than oscar from duelo.... LOL.
awaken contacted me and I was glad to hear from him,I wish him well.
had 2 great comfort stories about art and beach....
entropy once again hit me in the head with it...
COMFORT COMFORT COMFORT !
I ate bang-hers and mash....good stuff.
I love BOSTON alot of blondes and funny thing is that evnthough I didnt slep and stencht like a fungwah bus
I opened a hottie and didnt number close.
my style is mixed up a bit but I love NYC ! gotta move out my shit so see ya guys !
all PUA's best in Boston. great guys Im surprised I didnt improve to be MMMPPPUA . but I had them evaluate me.
After I relaized how lucky
I was to have a group of cool guys to work with...
Doc looked happy and I hadto hug the guy.. I literrally almost cried cause he was close friend and his journey just startd yet he became what I always wanted..to be awesomely sick with women.
Entropy showed some of his new material and I wanted to go over comfort but he didnt ...doc did his part ..
I was going to stay to hangout but having so much responsability I couldnt ...
It was the last practical pickup bootcamp....
I had to contact saffron whom to me was one of the best things to know him cause he is so aggressive yet been busy with his work....
I admit to fucking up at this point where I was near graduating and now POOF on the street....
I saw myself after the pics i took with them.. and damn im fucking huge my brother was right about being huge but Im fucking better looking than oscar from duelo.... LOL.
awaken contacted me and I was glad to hear from him,I wish him well.
had 2 great comfort stories about art and beach....
entropy once again hit me in the head with it...
COMFORT COMFORT COMFORT !
I ate bang-hers and mash....good stuff.
I love BOSTON alot of blondes and funny thing is that evnthough I didnt slep and stencht like a fungwah bus
I opened a hottie and didnt number close.
my style is mixed up a bit but I love NYC ! gotta move out my shit so see ya guys !
Tuesday, April 7, 2009
Microcalibration to the fullest and movie recommendation
http://www.conversationdemolition.com/
this is awesome stuff how guys communicate with women...microcalibration.ready it over and over and know what to say...sounds better than tryign to figure out if you meesed up.
check it out!
Days of the wild awesome movie!
"Days of Being Wild". in youtube for free. i think swingcatt recomended it but is awesome movie.
this is awesome stuff how guys communicate with women...microcalibration.ready it over and over and know what to say...sounds better than tryign to figure out if you meesed up.
check it out!
Days of the wild awesome movie!
"Days of Being Wild". in youtube for free. i think swingcatt recomended it but is awesome movie.
Monday, April 6, 2009
Changes! Looking to get good quick and BUSY as fuck and new stuff
I m so busy here in miami , I saw tv with my family and my brother said I looked like the singer I got upset cause that guy is ugly LOL.
Yes Im delutional....
I have a goal to work on passive value.
Most important I had to make a desciscion to let go of people who wont bring value or will drain you.
Its sad but I had to do it...
Its your responsibilty to be able to take action
My inspiration is BRAD from RSD....
Im not into RSD but this guys story is something I like...
Im looking to work on myself, lost fear a long fucking time ago.
Im going to be selfish since Ive been a good friend to some guys here.
Ive gotten fucked over and over.. I m not happy with results.
I think guys are good have balls to do something have a relationship ..and get laid.
I know a ton of guys that talk game and dont get laid.
I stopped reading ..and Im just looking to get awesome good.
Im dropping alot of stuff from game but from my surroundings...
I feel like Ol' Capt Jack....
Entropys new book looks smashin' I have respect for him .
he looks different I hope to see him this weekend in boston.
I love boston girls, so fucking pretty they look canadien LOL
If I can make it to court on time and get out of miami soon.
Paul Janka's text game and had a chick text me papi... I keep pushing things forward.
I learn more.
Docstranglove is good friend going thru tought time.
I cant wait to go to nyc and move out before court tases my shit
Im going to live in a room but live in miami until I reach to an agreement ...miami life is nice but I feel closed in...nyc is open fun but money! ! !
I learned from northernm nights and doc strangelove about taking care of business first before game....
Im surprised to see instructors with game withut money?
BradP really would get away with it other guys not sure other than gone savage or awaken.
Awaken is great guy but its disapointing me.. I dont want to douch anyone in my blog or in public but I dont like it when people arent honest.
I learned alot from him and he was key and I thank him but I m at different level and I have a different appraoch to alot of things..he is thin goodlooking I m not so he gets away with passive value It tougher for me yet working on passive value once there I will be supoerstar.
Fat guy getting laid some think I should feel bad but Im real with ,yself that I feel better prepared for anything.
I appreciate guys I know that are willing to help me..even at hard times those are worth keeping as friends.
Im busy structurng my future and what I will do next ..realistically I cant afford a GF since I will travel miami -nyc.
jiu jitsu kickboxing still on and do acting class for m,y stack.
Ive never been so busy that no time for game...feels great..
"the girls will always be there at the club " nothern nights
Yes Im delutional....
I have a goal to work on passive value.
Most important I had to make a desciscion to let go of people who wont bring value or will drain you.
Its sad but I had to do it...
Its your responsibilty to be able to take action
My inspiration is BRAD from RSD....
Im not into RSD but this guys story is something I like...
Im looking to work on myself, lost fear a long fucking time ago.
Im going to be selfish since Ive been a good friend to some guys here.
Ive gotten fucked over and over.. I m not happy with results.
I think guys are good have balls to do something have a relationship ..and get laid.
I know a ton of guys that talk game and dont get laid.
I stopped reading ..and Im just looking to get awesome good.
Im dropping alot of stuff from game but from my surroundings...
I feel like Ol' Capt Jack....
Entropys new book looks smashin' I have respect for him .
he looks different I hope to see him this weekend in boston.
I love boston girls, so fucking pretty they look canadien LOL
If I can make it to court on time and get out of miami soon.
Paul Janka's text game and had a chick text me papi... I keep pushing things forward.
I learn more.
Docstranglove is good friend going thru tought time.
I cant wait to go to nyc and move out before court tases my shit
Im going to live in a room but live in miami until I reach to an agreement ...miami life is nice but I feel closed in...nyc is open fun but money! ! !
I learned from northernm nights and doc strangelove about taking care of business first before game....
Im surprised to see instructors with game withut money?
BradP really would get away with it other guys not sure other than gone savage or awaken.
Awaken is great guy but its disapointing me.. I dont want to douch anyone in my blog or in public but I dont like it when people arent honest.
I learned alot from him and he was key and I thank him but I m at different level and I have a different appraoch to alot of things..he is thin goodlooking I m not so he gets away with passive value It tougher for me yet working on passive value once there I will be supoerstar.
Fat guy getting laid some think I should feel bad but Im real with ,yself that I feel better prepared for anything.
I appreciate guys I know that are willing to help me..even at hard times those are worth keeping as friends.
Im busy structurng my future and what I will do next ..realistically I cant afford a GF since I will travel miami -nyc.
jiu jitsu kickboxing still on and do acting class for m,y stack.
Ive never been so busy that no time for game...feels great..
"the girls will always be there at the club " nothern nights
Sunday, April 5, 2009
COMFORT game strategy
COMFORT
theres alot fo theories out there and I had a chance to look into J smoothes Blog and recommende these: I found them freakin awesome... I dont like opening up myself or do the CHERISHING as Tim RSD says ..but at my level I can appraoch open tease ,mercelessly,be funny, roleplay and being sexual but I tend to put too much emotions when I start opening up myself I guess Im not doing it properly...or LOWSELF ESTEEM. I like DHV spiking but there as micorcalibration neede it terms of my game.
Ive been super busy with my perosnal life thoughts on my future and finances.
Im 30 yrs old and I plan to work on my passive value ...
nothern nights thinks my verbal game is tight and with good passive value I can make a HUGE leap over other guys...
I missed talking and seeing SAFFRON I was glad to hear from him by my text..
IEATCATs from Boston has been closing deals with Cougars like foreclosures..
I know, not funny sorry.
El Topo's 3some really opend my eyes how advanced he is going and how I want to do that one day... he is so sick game
CJ's material is great that Im reviewing what I took with him.
PAul Janka's textgame and phone game is great for nyc as I will do more daygame....
LAST and BEST
AWAKEN..
awaken is most persistent teachers in this.. I wish to work with him again.
when I do I become almost immortal feeling of self....
I plan to strictly work on GYM and
maybe take a acting class ....
Miami game is about money,car, status and logistics is much more difficult than nyc.
http://jsmooth26.blogspot.com/2009/02/building-connection-comfort_25.html
http://jsmooth26.blogspot.com/2009/01/comfort-explained.html
theres alot fo theories out there and I had a chance to look into J smoothes Blog and recommende these: I found them freakin awesome... I dont like opening up myself or do the CHERISHING as Tim RSD says ..but at my level I can appraoch open tease ,mercelessly,be funny, roleplay and being sexual but I tend to put too much emotions when I start opening up myself I guess Im not doing it properly...or LOWSELF ESTEEM. I like DHV spiking but there as micorcalibration neede it terms of my game.
Ive been super busy with my perosnal life thoughts on my future and finances.
Im 30 yrs old and I plan to work on my passive value ...
nothern nights thinks my verbal game is tight and with good passive value I can make a HUGE leap over other guys...
I missed talking and seeing SAFFRON I was glad to hear from him by my text..
IEATCATs from Boston has been closing deals with Cougars like foreclosures..
I know, not funny sorry.
El Topo's 3some really opend my eyes how advanced he is going and how I want to do that one day... he is so sick game
CJ's material is great that Im reviewing what I took with him.
PAul Janka's textgame and phone game is great for nyc as I will do more daygame....
LAST and BEST
AWAKEN..
awaken is most persistent teachers in this.. I wish to work with him again.
when I do I become almost immortal feeling of self....
I plan to strictly work on GYM and
maybe take a acting class ....
Miami game is about money,car, status and logistics is much more difficult than nyc.
http://jsmooth26.blogspot.com/2009/02/building-connection-comfort_25.html
http://jsmooth26.blogspot.com/2009/01/comfort-explained.html
house arrest in miami ..i missed the meeting FUCK
hey man I havent been going out working on personal family and legal stuff to get my life together after such devestating blows...I remmeber el topo told me once "hey dude, Im just saying nobodys perfect we are human we have our flaws"
sounded pretty basic but the underlying why he was saying it is when you ask someone for help.
I had planned up to meet up woth a couple of guys and unfortunately I havent.
I have to move to new apt , and still here makes it more difficult...
what pissed me off is that an airport pu I did on a cute girl from chicago she was in town yet I didnt get her to contact me... online chicks trying to keep me on a waiting list here on 2 weeks....
text that I got from megabus liz that I sent out made everyone laugh their ass off.
All of this is to challenge me to step up.
If I dont then Im stagnant..I gotten soo much better just going out straight and it has helped me ALOT!
I would do it all over again simple fact of practice then reading on it is internalizing pain and looking for a solution.
I might go out with docstrangelove monday yet mystery is going to nyc on thusday and hopefully meet with him...I love nyc but this is my future and my future is in miami or FL.
I love to go to London or ireland or new zealand...
Here since I ve been busy myself realized how people are busy with their own shit...Ive been so busy I rejected offers to do my thing.
chicago chubby red hair airport pu inm nashville didnt respond to me nor my emails I fuked that up long time ago.
I liked her ALOT...
FUCK when I get like that I have to atleast appraoch 10 women...too bad Im under house arrest by my parents.LOL.
sounded pretty basic but the underlying why he was saying it is when you ask someone for help.
I had planned up to meet up woth a couple of guys and unfortunately I havent.
I have to move to new apt , and still here makes it more difficult...
what pissed me off is that an airport pu I did on a cute girl from chicago she was in town yet I didnt get her to contact me... online chicks trying to keep me on a waiting list here on 2 weeks....
text that I got from megabus liz that I sent out made everyone laugh their ass off.
All of this is to challenge me to step up.
If I dont then Im stagnant..I gotten soo much better just going out straight and it has helped me ALOT!
I would do it all over again simple fact of practice then reading on it is internalizing pain and looking for a solution.
I might go out with docstrangelove monday yet mystery is going to nyc on thusday and hopefully meet with him...I love nyc but this is my future and my future is in miami or FL.
I love to go to London or ireland or new zealand...
Here since I ve been busy myself realized how people are busy with their own shit...Ive been so busy I rejected offers to do my thing.
chicago chubby red hair airport pu inm nashville didnt respond to me nor my emails I fuked that up long time ago.
I liked her ALOT...
FUCK when I get like that I have to atleast appraoch 10 women...too bad Im under house arrest by my parents.LOL.
Thursday, April 2, 2009
Alpha male+ social skills= Game
So my boy doc strangelove and his wing "A-bone"
freakin I had spoken to him as I was getting texts from online girl.
I seem undecided what the fuck to do next and since these two mastered that ..Im good at cold approach...I had him talking to me back and forth.
Guy has serious game been at it a long time..got SNL's even gave me tips since Im at my parents cribo...he found out..he saw matrix.
alpha do whatever the fuck feels like it willing to walk away
social skills to get her attracted
HE mentioned something I overlooked
what I read today at Sinns Blog on emotional Storm
I spoke ELTOPO a couple of times but reading sinns of attraction had an idea what I did last night.
after I spokewn to my boy Abone since doc strangleove was busy on phone with 2 women running wygant game LOL
made some awesome points BTspikes to create emtional storm but he called it being "unpredictable"
so I read this hundreds of times but not actually conscious of it I deicded to experiment and texte HBminisota blondie which I will post again.
since Ive been practicng comfort B H R R
Got hbminblondie to respond but build comfort and I felt we are going into friends zone
she text me 2 am
freakin I had spoken to him as I was getting texts from online girl.
I seem undecided what the fuck to do next and since these two mastered that ..Im good at cold approach...I had him talking to me back and forth.
Guy has serious game been at it a long time..got SNL's even gave me tips since Im at my parents cribo...he found out..he saw matrix.
alpha do whatever the fuck feels like it willing to walk away
social skills to get her attracted
HE mentioned something I overlooked
what I read today at Sinns Blog on emotional Storm
I spoke ELTOPO a couple of times but reading sinns of attraction had an idea what I did last night.
after I spokewn to my boy Abone since doc strangleove was busy on phone with 2 women running wygant game LOL
made some awesome points BTspikes to create emtional storm but he called it being "unpredictable"
so I read this hundreds of times but not actually conscious of it I deicded to experiment and texte HBminisota blondie which I will post again.
since Ive been practicng comfort B H R R
Got hbminblondie to respond but build comfort and I felt we are going into friends zone
she text me 2 am
sticking points are: after building comfort sexual tension
recovery
mindaset scarcity of scared of being needy
I get great guy but not interested
comfort close
I go direct on after comfort or losing set
Objections and calibrating
aviod closing as sexual needy
walking away and coming back
when she keeps holding on to past thread
when I get her to qualifyherself off ht eopner what that means how to proceed.
when she is seeking to communicate with you do you act or you show interst ....
I dont seem to stop qualifying sounds like question and when I start talking she doesnt put into it?
how build sexual tension from it...
when she feels lika a slut when I go sexual how recover without being clingy needy rapport seeking
when its not going well I tell her hey stop that! or eyes over here Im talking to you..losing the set.
for someone that wants to get good and eventually wants a GF and wants more sexual experience some people want goal but is that necessary?
Im at level.
putting pressure on the girl and recovery game
sexual needy when pull
amoged pattern
do you ask her what ahe is looking
assumed booty call
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