Showing posts with label daygame. Show all posts
Showing posts with label daygame. Show all posts

Wednesday, February 9, 2011

Newbie Exercises by FRANCO

When you are new to picking women up you almost probably have approach anxiety unless you have been since young a natural playboy.

Learning to pickup women is little bit like learning to ride a bicycle. It is all about letting your body and your mind by continuous exercise get in touch with new physical and mental behaviors.

Your body and your mind face new mindsets, postures and gestures they are not used to.
For this reason if you are new to the world of picking women up it´s better you “start small” to have your mind and body slowly adapted to the new situations.

For this reason it may be useful to learn about these 3 mental zones:

- Comfort zone: what you feel comfortable doing

- Stretch zone: what creates in you “little bit of distress” but not much

- Panic zone: what would have you get into deep fear and panic

The right learning curve is achieved by putting yourself little bit into the stretch zone in “small doses” before you get into the panic zone.

For example: if walking in a place full of beautiful women has you into the panic zone then visit spaces where you know you can find women alone then slowly get into little bit more crowded places till you feel comfortable with it.

Never get straight into the panic zone: it demotivates you and has you step back from the game.

Exercises:

- Coach yourself to walk in places where you know you can meet women very slowly. Deliberately reduce the speed. There are two main reasons: if you go fast you cannot really pay attention to the surroundings. Pickup is all about paying attention to what is around you. Beside that: walking slowly and doing things slowly has the people around you feel that you are a man of higher value. Being in a rush is a sign of lower value.

- Coach yourself to talk slowly. Reduce the speed of your talk. Talking fast is a sign on insecurity. Taking your time and talking slowly is a sign of higher value.

- At times walk on the streets very slowly. When you see a beautiful woman slowly turn your head, hold eye contact for a second and the smile. Coach yourself to pay attention to her reactions: some will smile back, some will blush, some will turn head away, some will look down. The ones who turn the back away are not interested. The ones who blush or feel uneasy may have your same problem: lack of experience in meeting people. Instead the ones who look down and blush or show any other signs of inner emotional shaking are the ones who like you and would respond well to your approach.

- Repeat the former exercises several times and when you are comfortable with that begin to smile to the women on the streets like above. Don´t pay any attention to the ones who turn they face on the other side. Instead coach yourself to say a warm: “Hi” only to the ones who blush, look down and to the ones who say back: “Hi”. Simply forget the ones who do not react or with draw contact and focus only on the ones who respond positively. One wonderful thing you will learn when practicing pickup and seduction is the huge importance of focusing always on the positive.

- When you can do all of the above and feel comfortable about it you can begin to use some opener.

Monday, January 17, 2011

FR :bitchy look at CVS

Hey guys I started implementing the Nonverbal Sexual Mind Control by Jesse Charger Program.
I havent gotten too far yet.I dont like to skim things so Im reviewing as Im progressing some material.
I have never heard of before,its pretty cool stuff

7:30pm

I was at a CVS store and I was standing in line at checkout.
then a cute girl walks in the store, I looked at her and I then rapidly looked away (damnit!) as she looked toward me in terms of noticing that I looked at her, within seconds I then look back at her again and she rolls her eyes with me a bitchy look like a nonverbal
"PfffT...whatever"
bitchy type rolls her eyes and turns her head.


behind me where some dudes who noticed her DRAMATIC reaction and laughed about the fact she came in and they noticed that out of the blue reacted like that,
they were talk amoung themselves:
"who was that? some ex GF you dumped awhile back" talking amoung each other, kindah funny but anyways, Im not making it up.


I think there are a couple of mistakes here on my part.
Fact that I looked away and didnt lock eye contact in the first place.
(which I usually do) any excersize for that Jesse?

but even so how you react to "that" emotional reaction from a girl, you arent at a club or a bar to plow and control the interaction at that point since its different scenario.

I didnt feel bad about myself, Its no big deal, I usually NEXT girls rather quickly.Im realistic it could be for thousands of reasons.I rather not go into that, so I NEXT.
I've done cold approach before alot of times, but this isnt cold appraoch.

What, Im saying is that Nonverbal sexual mind control program is advanced game of itself ...communicating with the girl on another level.


So,after that nonverbal emotional reaction from the girl.
Its like 7-9 feet of distance across from each other.
I was like "ok" I looked away to the side and up and tried to hold in the laughter abit.

she was gone to notice that by then.


BAR or CLUB at NIGHT
If it was at a bar or club I would have reframed it and appraoched her by saying

" I couldnt help to notice you but I was wondering if that was your sexy way of catching my eye?"."Im Sandee"

NOT to be LIKED !

SUMMARY
In other words, I usually NEXT girls quickly if I get a negative reaction like this in the daytime or outside club enviroment.I do need to work on somethings but I would like to see your interpretation of it and would you do if a girl would react like this.


Thanks ,

PS : I LOL'd at this pic


CRJAMES RESPONDS:


it could be a few things


- she wasn't feeling you (for whatever reason). don't sweat it..
- she wasn't in the mood to be hit on and wanted to put up a "blocker"
- she wanted to dramatically make it out to be more than what it was. this gives her a chance to "feel good about herself" (as if all guys want her). then she gets to tell the story to her friends about a guy who was checking her out...
- she initially liked you, but felt rejected from the rapid "look away" on your part and possibly pegged you as a "scared guy" (massive drop in sexual value)
- pretends to be bitchy as as illusion of confidence. when i was single i approached plenty of girls who would act that way, then after awhile i would end up getting their numbers...but in most cases, it's best to just move on.

Tuesday, January 11, 2011

FR hired gun nose ring day game at MALL

MY state, my emotional state

I was going some where to pay a phone bill, It was late and I had just argued with someone.So I was unconciously feeling pretty masculine and confident as if I had just left the GYM, my headspace was I dont care and if the girl who is there is cute Im going to tell her she is fucking sexy just because i felt like it and I didnt feel any anxiety to do it.
But really inside I was feeling pretty oozing with confidence , maybe out of anger which I hadnt really experimented transfering emotions.But because I sticking up for myself, and believeing in myself. so accidentally (not sure , jesse can explain more) but I was in state.


NON VERBAL AMOG positioning
So I get there and some dude with a pink shirt looking pretty guidoish is there hitting on the girl who is working as a cashier at the stationary place at the mall ..and I start using non verbal sexual communication with her ,which jesse talks about, yet in this situation I wasnt aggresive but was being more high value in terms of social intelligence and non verbal dominance (with her that the guy had to beta himself) the other guy had go to the side and it was like double bind on himself to dismiss himself as he was leering and begging for her attention non verbally.
the guy is obviously a chode cause he spoke with a voice high pitch voice and he was compensating with try hard pink and trying to be pretty boy.


the girl and voice tone

the girl was Ok cute very young 19 ish with nose ring. at first was abit formal, yet there was a shift and I felt she was starting to feel attraction as we connected with eye contact and my voice tone and accent was different than typical guys she meets.

So seeing the guy walk to the side it was like in a way increasing my value. I had started talking and since I had been deep voice, that part of my verbal coomunication hit, not the words but the tone of it.

then I felt I was in a bit of frame control test
cause there was a space in the convo where I asked her a question and she shifted her attention to the other guy as he interupted talking to her in spanish.
and I then shifted my attention to be distracted temporarily to avoid me lowering my value or seeming to be into her too much or me being desperate for a response..then she turned back I non verbally made eye contact and stuck at it and she answered my question and she then proceeded to do the follwong that never happened to me....

HER TEASING ME..

the conversation wasnt intersting at all it was the subcommunication,that is why I recommend looking into Jesse's program on sexual non verbal.

So she then tells me that the service was going to take till next day, I didnt really paid attentions and then she repeated it again (like a person retelling the punchline of a joke) and I was a bit aloof I was like "Ok, Why? "

and she said : "Im kidding"

from there I didnt know how to respond to that tease or IOI. ???????

So I just said "you are such a kidder.you almost got me"

she said : "yeah you almost felt for that I could see it in your face"

(not sure what that meant but she was cool and being cool, flirty)

the guy came back and I tried to exchanged numbers fast but I didnt set the timebrdige for the next time or next meeting which I usually do cause It felt rushed.I usually ask abit more about a girl to make her think why Id be interested in her in the first place. anyways one the pink AMOG was back he was trying to tool me abit I guess, I just ignored the fuck out of him completely..SWOOSH__= out of my reality .LOL

I wanted you guys opinion on this interaction as Im improving as Im going. this has been somewhat of when girls tease or flirt that way..at times I get __lost in the moment__ which I think is abit wrong...

she gives a verbal interest or indirect tease or responds to your tease or flirt back verbally what you do?

cause she was basically checking me out and throwing teases at me in flirty way.

any other observations comments here is welcomed.

Thanks

NOTE: I would have gone direct, but I rather my non verbals be direct, somewhat it is more exciting when you dont go direct verbally and non verbally you are communicating with her (FOR ME PERSONALLY,as Im reviewing Jesse's product on non verbal sexual )..the AMOG chode obviously felt competition, I never even acknowledged him being there.So nonverbal is more powerful.
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Thursday, January 6, 2011

day game current sticking points JAN 2011

I will concede some truth that IOI carry different weight in different countries. Eye contact in North America usually means a girl would be comfortable with you striking a conversation with her. In certain European countries eye contact means a girl "wants" you to strike a conversation with her.




However I personally try not to read too much into cultural differences when it comes to women, because the end result is always the same. Underneath all those IOI every woman follows her emotions like a moral compass. It takes practice, but once you can tap into that part of her brain casually and comfortably you'll notice all these IOIs fall to the wayside





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ccol Hoyle Thanks..



I meant on advice on what I need to work on my daygame,dude.

based on the minor report I posted.



I also meant the IOIs during the convo is like her temperature goes up..so I found it either kino or ask her a question/qualifying statement rather than do more talking...



Initially the IOIs are ok, warm appraoches...



within the convo the IOIs tell you to calibrate her reactions in a way.



Jesse ofcourse mentioned previously in another day game thread for me not to follow the IOIs cause we get addicted to the IOIs and lose focus on leading the seduction. with that in mind.



great point Hoyle...Im noticing this Im not stereotyping but the more masculine you come off with latin women its like they are more receptive...its weird cause on white american its safety issue in day game ,so its a convo , interesting convo.

Latina not really into interesting convo, just seeing what else you got in terms of how macho are you in subtle non verbal sexual communication (one of Jesse's product)...YES in day game, LOL





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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandee

Things that Im messing up is :



-I talk too much and lack asking her questions to invest in convo

-lack of qualification or screening statements

-I forget about making her talk about herself...



So its like I talk and talk and talk and abit braggin' eventhoguh it isnt really but , its is abit too much too soon, too deep or too personal.



This is coming from a place of wanting to impress / entertain by just talking non-stop.



Becoming more comfortable with the idea of creating space or PUSH BACK with silences or asking for her input begins with not needing to impress the girl or win her approval so much.



One thing about Miami Latinas is that they tend to be QUIET and not really contribute as much as your typical Gringa. That can cause you to talk more because they're not giving back to the convo.



Latins are very family and social circle oriented, whereas European-descended Americans are more about mingling, meeting new people, and breaking family and old social ties. So you'll find white girls contribute more to the conversation and it's generally easier than with Latin Miami girls.







Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandee

Im noticing most Latina girls get turned off by this...like they rather you hold back and show abit mystery and more masculine dominant subcommunications to attract her rather than you talking too much about yourself, ofcourse unless she asks you .



It comes down to being introduced and social circles. A lot of Latina girls can come across as straight up weird and cold if you're not properly introduced, and even then as a Gringo you're still an outsider to them.





Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandee

Jesse any adivice or excersizes on the day game sticking points ?



Not really, unfortunately. I like Gringas. Just easier and cooler people.



Night clubs are different. Just get more physical and persistent against their cold shoulders and less conversational. You have better chance in a night club with them.



Or salsa club. If you can dance well, that will attract a lot of attention as you're such an oddity, and dancing well is a huge status symbol.







Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandee

but I started talking about a deep comfort story about how I liked nicaraguan food cause a maid in the house when I was a kid was from nicaragua and she used to cook that type of food and I liked it once in awhile....but then I told her that "now she is gone and i found out the lady recently died...."



the girl who was playng with her hair and sexual eye contact with me ...I felt all the sudden she got turned off and she walked away...



You're probably being too nice guy...? So is she feeling sexual intent from you, that sexual fury? Deep eye contact to her lips + eyes, super slow voice, lick your lips, telling her she's hot cute eyes? Maybe you're stuck in conversational friends zone and it got boring to her. She probably has plenty of alpha tough-guy Latin guys in her life she's comparing you to.







Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandee

So I might have to calibrate and hold back being too deep too soon and trying to get her to talk more about herself.



Maybe, but it may be more of a sexual intent issue.







Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandee

other girls would say " Awww.... thats so sweet" or "too bad"



A gringa would have given you more conversational banter back to work with, but these stories still wouldn't have turned her on. She'd still see you as a conversation friend.







Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandee

.. cause it looks like stories turns them off.



I think you're playing things too safe and cautiously, looking for the girl to like you first before you show sexual interest in her. You've got to show sexual interest in her first, and lead her into that attraction state.

Tuesday, January 4, 2011

Multiple Streams of women by SINN

In the spirit of the New Year,
I want to share a really advanced
but simple technique with you today.

But first let me explain where
this technique came from.

A few years ago i was reading
a book on investing and they
said that on average millionaires
have 7 different streams of income.

This got me thinking about
Women(as almost anything does).

It was then that my theory
of multiple streams of meeting
women was borne.

In order to be extremely
successful with women,
you need to have at least
3 different ways you meet
women you're attracted to!

For example, I meet
girls through Day Game,
Acting Classes and
the internet.

You want to make sure
that you vary up your
ways you meet girls and
don't just practice different
forms of cold approach.

Hope that helps,

JS-The King Of Content

P.S To learn all about setting up Multiple
Streams of women in your life, you need
The Get Laid More Home Study Course, get it
at http://www.sinnsofattraction.com/glm/

Monday, December 27, 2010

Conversation StartersLearn the Daytime Pickup ...Without Failing Or Getting Rejected By Women! by Oliver T

Conversation StartersLearn the Daytime Pickup ...Without Failing Or Getting Rejected By Women!


Let me ask you a question: Do you have a problem starting conversations with women?

Have you ever seen a woman you wanted to meet but you were just couldn’t get yourself to approach her and start a conversation? It’s like there’s something physically stopping your from doing it.

I know how frustrating it can be.

There have been times when I’d see an attractive woman but for some reason I was paralyzed with fear and I didn’t know why.

I just couldn’t explain it.

It was the kind of fear that's so powerful that it prevented me from saying something, anything, to get an interaction started.

Here are some tried and tested tips on how to start a conversation with any woman, anywhere, at anytime…

Conversation Starter Tip # 1- Captivate Her With Your Presence

Relax and Lean back. I’ve discovered that when you assume a relaxed position, even if you’re nervous, you slowly start to feel more relaxed. Next time you’re in an interaction, just lean back and try to be as relaxed and comfortable as you can. That includes doing things like leaning back, taking up some space, and leaning against the wall.

Do whatever helps you relax. For example, when I’m calling up a girl for the first time, I used to lay down flat on the floor and take deep breaths. For some reason, it helped me relax more. Walk and move slow. I modeled this behavior after guys that were NATURALS when it came to dealing with women.

Everything they did was almost too smooth. They walked, talked, and moved slow. They took their time almost like they owned time. And the more I started acting that way, the more positive responses I got from women.

Conversation Starter Tip # 2- Take Baby Steps

Rome wasn't built overnight and you won't be CASANOVA tomorrow. That's just how it works. But you can quickly build yourself up to the point where you can approach any woman, anywhere, at anytime. Here's exactly how to do it.

The 4-Day Challenge

Location: Go to the nearest mall or a place with a lot of people.
Duration: 30 minutes each day

Day 1: Eye Contact

Go out for 30 minutes and hold eye contact with every person you see. Make them look away first. Don’t forget to smile.

Day 2: Hey, How’s Your Day?

Go out for 30 minutes and say “Hey how’s your day” with everyone you see. You can start off with people working in the stores because they will be friendlier.

Day 3: Asking For The Time

Go out for 30 minutes and ask 10 people for the time. Afterwards say “Thanks” and walk away.
Real World Example:
“Excuse me, do you have the time?”

Day 4: Getting Directions

Go out for 30 minutes and ask 10 people for directions to the bathroom, movie theatre, or restaurant of your choice. Afterwards say “Thanks” and walk away.
Real World Example:
“Excuse me, I need your recommendation. What’s a good place
to eat around here?”
Follow up question: “How do I get there?”

Conversation Starter Tip # 3- Learn Advanced Techniques For Starting Conversations With Women

Once you're comfortable with the basic conversation starters, it's time to take it up one more notch…

You need to focus on attracting women, getting dates, and taking things to the next level… Fast.

And that’s why I created Daytime Pick-up Revealed.
I've basically compiled all my priceless techniques to meet any woman, anywhere, at anytime, into a comprehensive and informative e-book packed with hundreds of tips and tricks you can use instantly!

Its JAM PACKED with dozens and dozens of specific strategies for overcoming fear, approaching women, getting phone numbers and email address from women quickly, great in expensive or even free date ideas, and advice on how to take things to a "physical" level smoothly and easily.

In addition, I'd also like to invite you to sign up for my free dating tips newsletter. It's the ultimate resource for becoming a successful pick up artist. It's here - and it's a free website for men to join!

Your Friend,
Oliver Turner

Thursday, December 23, 2010

Sasha’s Direct Mindset daygame

Hey kids! As you all know I’m going through a big “Direct” shift in my game. It’s fun!

In this video I strive to get across what actually goes through my head when I see a beautiful woman…. And how I am 100% ok with telling her what’s going through my head, as well as hot attractive I think she is!

When I started this journey I was obsessed with openers. I could tell you 100 openers for a 100 situations. And hell, some of ‘em were pretty good! As I’ve been around for a while now, I see guys fussin’ about the same kind of things I was fussin’ about back then. What’s interesting is, I’ve found that by getting in touch with your inner ape man, and letting that ape man OUT – you actually cut out a lot of steps.

What am I talking about?

“What do I say to her?”
“How to I ask for her number?
“What if I run out of things to say?”
“How do I ask her out?”
“How do I make things sexual?”

When you’re in touch with your inner apeman – you don’t need to worry about this. When you speak from the ape “ME MAN. YOU WOMAN. YOU PRETTY. ME LIKE PRETTY WOMAN! You don’t have to worry about all those other details. They sort themselves out. All you have to be sure of are these three things.

1) You’re a heterosexual man.
2) She’s a woman
3) You are physically attracted to her, and would like to sleep with her/get to know her better.
That’s it. That’s all you have to know. What else is there? Not a lot. Just remember:

Some women will want to chat with you a bit before giving out their number. Be prepared to have a bit of chat before the interaction is done. Have SOMEthing to talk about… what you’re up to that day, or something interesting that’s happened recently. But, always remember you’re talking to her because you WANT TO HOOKUP WITH HER – and always push the interaction towards setting up a date!

Upon being opened directly, some women will test you to see if you really are a confident man. Don’t flinch. This is normal. Relax. Maintain eye contact. RELAX AND SMILE. She’s just another woman – one of millions. You, Ape man. You have chosen her – HER. She’s lucky she will have you to protect her from all the other ape man. LUCKY. Never forget this.

Keep the interaction short. 5 mins MAX. When you’re being direct, LESS IS MORE. Be that mysterious, confident guy. Get her number, have a little bit of chat, and GET OUT OF THERE! The more you talk, the more you fall into the “friend” zone. Some guy she spoke to for 25 minutes isn’t a mysterious sexy stranger. It’s her “friend.” Not good!

And remember: There are millions, MILLIONS of women out there you are compatible with. Most of the HOT ones you meet WILL have boyfriends. This is ok… you will have to speak to quite a few before you get somewhere. ENJOY IT! Love that feeling you get when you run up to a girl, and tell her she’s the hottest thing you’ve seen that year/week/hour. LOVE THE PROCESS! Enjoy meeting new people!

They’ll love you for it… and you’ll love you for it as well. And as an Added bonus, I’ll love you too!

That’s all for now, hope you enjoy the vid and leave some comments. I’ll be watchin’

Sasha

“Approaching Women And Starting Conversations – Pre-Framing”

For some men the very thought of approaching women and starting conversations is enough to leave him trembling with fear. And the cause of this fear? Usually, it’s the thought that if you approach women you’ll get rejected, and often in the harshest ways possible.

If I asked you to imagine the worst kind of response from a daytime approach, what would you think of?

“Fuck off!”
“Leave me alone!”
“Go away!”
” ” (complete silence)

I’m guessing these will probably be some of them. Well, I have a confession to make.

I’ve had all of these.

Did it hurt?

You bet.

Am I about to tell you guys that you will get this too at some point and to just bite the bullet and do it anyway?

Actually no.

Because there is a very specific reason why you would get responses like these when approaching women and starting conversations. I learnt the hard way, but now I have this knowledge I can help others avoid some painful rejections.

I’m going to teach you about PRE-FRAMING.

When approaching women and starting conversations, what can often happen, ESPECIALLY if you’re approaching them on the street, is the girl automatically places the “Salesman Frame” over the interaction.

Before we continue lets quickly outline what a “Frame” is. A Frame is the context through which the words in the interaction are filtered – therefore the Frame over the interaction plays a huge part in determining what is ultimately being communicated.

That probably doesn’t make sense, so let me explain with an example.

Your best friend tells you that a certain stranger at a party is a complete liar and always exaggerates everything, and not to believe anything he says. The stranger approaches you and tells you he is a world champion pool player. Do you believe him? No. Because your friend “Pre-Framed” him as a lyer. Now everything he said was being filtered through the frame of a liar, thus changing what was ultimately communicated.

Back to the approach.

If a woman had lived her life in a cocoon before deciding to walk down that street, and you were the first person in her entire life to try and grab her attention in the street, she would stop guaranteed. The problem is that this isn’t the case. She HAS been approached in the street before. And the problem, is that nearly all of these times it’s been someone trying to GET something from her. Salesman, club promoters, charity people, beggers – it’s always been someone approaching to try and take some value.

So you approach, and unless you take counter-measures, she will see you approach, and will automatically place a “Salesman frame” on the impending interaction. Now ANYTHING you say will be filtered through this filter, and she won’t be listening to any of it, because she really doesn’t want to buy anything.

“Sorry I’m busy”
“I’m not interested”
“Leave me alone”

If you’ve ever had this reponse from a girl, then I guarantee you she is only saying this because she has preframed you, and is just assuming you are a salesman of some kind.

DO NOT TAKE THIS TO HEART!

You have nothing to sell – you’re actually approaching to GIVE value, through your fun positive vibe/compliments etc. So clearly there’s a mistake happening.

And in order to prevent this mistake from happening, you need to PRE-FRAME the interaction. This is where you place your own frame on the interaction before she has a chance to, in the form a short, intriguing statement just as you approach.

The statement will replace what you might have been saying to get her attention, for example “Hi there, sorry to bother you”

Replace it with a statement that is very unconventional – something that she might not have heard on the street before. Something that will take her by surprise and make her want to hear what you’re going to say next. Something that a salesman would NEVER say.

Some examples are:

“Oh my god I HAVE to say this to you….”
“Oh my god can I just say something?….”
“Excuse me, this is gonna sound crazy but….”

Get the idea?

A statement like this will Pre-Frame the interaction as anything BUT a salesman. She will be intrigued enough to stop and listen to you. Remember, all the pre-frame does is make her stop. She might just say “yes, what is it?”

But “Yes, what is it?” is a million times better than “Sorry I’m busy”!

Go out there and just remember when you’re approaching women and starting conversations to always start off with the pre-frame before you actually open, and you will find women much more open to talking to you.

Look forward to reading your comments for this article below!

Good luck!

Andy.

Thursday, December 16, 2010

Day Game- The Most Underrated Form of Game

Day Game- The Most Underrated Form of Game




Want to approach her? You can.

I haven’t been posting lately and this is because I have been going through a transformation since my bootcamp. I’ve been out constantly sarging and bettering my game…



An interesting thing happened this week. You know when I started pick up I ran social circle and alot of nightgame… I have run day game some of the time, but this week I went through a realization.



I ran a street pickup and bounced the hb to a coffee shop. I was able to close her on the Day 3 it could have been a Day 2 close, but there were time constraints. The sarge was done entirely during the day. From opening to closing it was run during the day.



Now, I am more determined than ever to improve my day game. Street game probably has the lowest probably of the different types of day game. However, I find street game the most exciting



There’s so many things going on with my game right now but the main focus on this post is day game.



Day Game Tips:



1. High traffic areas- make sure to hit up high traffic areas since this has the most amount of people and potential sets to open



2. Street Game- although street game is an area I am improving I have noticed if you move the sarge quickly (kinoing early, locking in, bouncing) you can have a higher rate of success



3. Bookstores- bookstores are a great place to game during the day. One thing I have done lately is take hb’s to the travel section of the bookstore and pick out the place they would most like to travel to. From there, we sit down and look through the pictures in the book (good for kino). Also, you can bounce around other areas of the bookstore.



4. Coffee shops- these are good as well. Make sure not to talk to the hb’s from a standing position for a long time.



**Know your bounce locations during the day. You never know when you will have a set that will go well. Then, if you don’t know your bounce locations, you will be walking around looking. This is not good trust me I have been there.



Don’t be afraid to kino during the day either. Kino’ing was one of my weaker areas after my bootcamp, but I have gotten my kino calibration tighter now. Kino works well after your bt spikes…



A few tips for day game. Keep on Sarging!



By the way, the new David Guetta cd is hott!



Hey! Nice post – Daygame is the shiiiiiiiiit !
Have been doing a lot of daygame for the last couple of years… just a quick top for anybody who wants to have success with it:
If you want to approach some hottie who’s walking down the street:

Make sure to approach from the side and touch the girl (gently, above the elbow) BEFORE you start speaking to her.
If you start talking while walking – often the girl won’t even know you’re talking to her… or if she’s not sure (and doesn’t want to take the chance that you’re some weirdo) – she’ll just pretend she didn’t hear you.

But, if you touch her first (smile) and THEN run your opener – she HAS to acknowledge you… there’s no getting away from the interaction! This increases your chances of stopping her by 300% (probably more!)


Remember: Girls are like horses: If you approach from the rear – or straight on – you can freak them out! Smile, touch first – and you’ve got a chance!


Good luck and have fun everyone!

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Thanks man these tips are excellent. Day game is vastly better than night game. I haven’t gone to night clubs now for about six months, you dont realize how much they suck till you haven’t been to one for a while. The smoke the noise having to stay up late when you gotta work the next day. I’m sure you know what i mean




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Farmarz I do know what you mean. The daytime is so much more relaxed than the night!



Sasha Pua says:

January 5, 2010 at 2:15 pm

Hey! Nice post – Daygame is the shiiiiiiiiit !



Have been doing a lot of daygame for the last couple of years… just a quick top for anybody who wants to have success with it:



If you want to approach some hottie who’s walking down the street:

Make sure to approach from the side and touch the girl (gently, above the elbow) BEFORE you start speaking to her.



If you start talking while walking – often the girl won’t even know you’re talking to her… or if she’s not sure (and doesn’t want to take the chance that you’re some weirdo) – she’ll just pretend she didn’t hear you.



But, if you touch her first (smile) and THEN run your opener – she HAS to acknowledge you… there’s no getting away from the interaction! This increases your chances of stopping her by 300% (probably more!)



Remember: Girls are like horses: If you approach from the rear – or straight on – you can freak them out! Smile, touch first – and you’ve got a chance!



Good luck and have fun everyone!



Bolo says:

January 5, 2010 at 8:12 pm

Hey Sasha.



Heard a lot about your from Lumiere and Ginger. Hear you’re damn good at day game. Looking forward to sarging with you cuz Night Game is over rated. If you’re ever in Korea or Taiwan then holla at us.

Friday, December 10, 2010

Justin Wayne college girl NY LR and Girl with BFs

Justin Wayne : “NY College Girl (Video)”


In Dating/Pick-Up Theory, Justin Wayne's Lay Reports on December 10, 2010 at 10:30 am



Hey Guys,



I know it has been a while since I posted. I hardly have time to post Lay Reports since it takes energy and I AM NOT APPROACHING OFTEN maybe once a week at best when I have to teach on weekends. Recording girls is very hard . Most of the times I don’t get good footage since i have to focus on both the girl and the right shots. I have to really get them in a certain state of freedom to get them to kiss me on video when I pull out my phone.







Initial PickUp



It was like 2 Sundays ago. I was coaching on a 1 on 1 session. I was in Union Sq. My student went on an instant date and I did not want to follow him since the logistics would of been weird for me to eavesdrop. I recently got a new spy cam. I am still gettin used to it. Anyways, that day i felt sooo shitty. I haven’t been approaching like i used to over a year and a half ago. I was with E and a promoter friend. They are always in Union Sq. It was like 8 pm. It was also freezing. I saw tried two stop to girls but they didnt stop. I finally stopped a third girl. She is an NY college student.







She was very skeptical since E was standing in the middle of the sidewalk stopping random girls. She asked me “Do you know him??? Are you trying to sell me something too??” Despite the fact that i opened her Neutral, she smelled BS.



I told her I knew him and he is a “promoter” acquaintance of mines. We spoke for 5-8 minutes. She said she had to go because she was cold. We exchanged numbers and i ended very strong and romantic, just so she wont get the wrong idea.



Phone Crap



SO i texted her, she repsonded to the first text but not the second. I then called her a week later before i decided to delete. I left a voicemail and then deleted it. SHe texted me and told me she as really busy. I said “ok , lets meet up”. She said she will let me know. I called her for the final time, she picked up, we vibed for 5 minutes and then i set the date on the phone.



Date/Close



I met up with her. Took her all the way to queens. Closed the deal. (the date info is in the video and im too lazy to type now)

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Justin Wayne’s thoughts on “Girls with Boyfriends’


In Dating/Pick-Up Theory, Justin Wayne's Lay Reports on December 10, 2010 at 9:49 am







Earlier this week, actually this past Saturday. I was training students at my bootcamps. It was cold, so instead of doing day game in the streets, I took in into one of the Malls in Manhattan.




After that, I performed a demo for one of the students who wanted to understand how to create momentum. I saw a brunette girl. I approached. I spoke to her for about 10 minuted while they waited. This was like 10 in the night outside of Macy’s. I was freezing my ass off. I met her the next day and closed the deal by her friends house since she lives with her boyfriend.







Within the first minute she mentioned a story about her “boyfriend”. Just a friendly reminder, i would say between 70% – 80% of the girls I’ve slept with from stranger approaches had boyfriends.



As my student observed, I focused NOT on what she said, but what she is willing to do WITH ME.



Some girls will just mention that they have a boyfriend. The only way for you to know if they like you are not is by moving forward. I NEVER look at boyfriends as an obstacle now. It does not mean that I will get every girl because I DONT. NO ONE DOES.



However, I understand that many girls will be willing to cheat on their boyfriends in certain situations. One question you should ask is “what phase of the relationship is she in?”



Many of the times you might meet a girl when she just met her ‘new’ boyfriend where she does not feel entitled for him yet. Other times, she may only be with him because he is the best option she has at that moment. She may also be with him but they have problems. ETC.



All these situations are where girls cheat. If she is extremely happy, it is unlikely that she will cheat during that phase. It can happen, but would be less frequent.



I remember when I used to be baffled to see how many of the girls I slept with were cheating on their boyfriends with me.



Truth is, most cute girls will be taken. It is up to your personal code of ethics to decide whether you will sleep with her or not. Most cases, if the relationship isnt that serious, it wouldn’t be that bad. But hey, that’s my opinion…



As I always say… “My objective is not to be RIGHT, but it is to find the TRUTH… because only the truth will set me free”

Saturday, December 4, 2010

day game : where to go and new ideas opening

I did daygame yeasterday , and I havent been really happy at first with typical latin women around my way ,




anyways I had been juicing raw fruits and needed some fresh fruits and ingredients.







So I decided to go were to "whole foods".



I would usually take a subway where I used to live,



but here Im driving on a car.





As I was getting there in my car ( which is near a college campus), its was around lunch time. I saw this scenario:











I was in my car and saw all these girls, they were all hot they were not together and not in group



( I had heard  PAUL JANKA previously about avoiding to talk to girls that are in groups in the day,which is practial advice. I have opened 2 girl groups before but its work well if the girl was already checking you out cause the friends wont rush her away from you, they will be cool that you are hitting on her and isolating her for number exchange etc)







Paul Janka also says about when you see alot of girls like this ,you have to choose one.
you cant open girls infront of the other , this is too avoid being seen as seeking rapport/bum asking for money type of negative cognotation and being classified as such to avoid her



"what does he want from me ?" "he wants something, Im not intereasted" "mr. sleaze ball creepy man" etc.etc.



So Im am in my car and I never read about opening from your car or as you are in your car:









few ideas poped in my head.





1# - SPEAK LOUD AND CLEAR







NOT TO DO:

Dont Open from your car if she isnt expecting you to open her or you are in an area the is solitude, she might react as you are a stalker type.you could open asking directions but its really har dot transtition into converstation cause she will walk after her giving you an answer or ignore you.



You can DO:



If she looks at you and you make a eye contact and you slow down and she tried looking at you as she is walking then you can open from your car indirect and subcommunicate you are intersted..... and you can transition on getting off your car to number close.







Also if its a place of solitude and you see this:







another idea, is you see her and turn around park infront and near and then approach her with indirect bodylanguage...



I know it sounds too much investment but you would have to go Direct here as she is on about her day going home after class and after lunch...







"hey I couldnt help noticing you as I drove by right now and I was going to kick myself If I didnt come and talk to you .... there is eomthing about how you carry yourself and I wanted to meet you" "Im _______"







or any suggestions that you would open with.... thank you.











Girls that are in a hurry is go direct, girls that are shopping go fun roleplay , and then transition to instadate or number close.



Its easier said than done,



trust me I havent read anything on car pickup, cause its actually looks like stalker child molester CREEPY!!!





But surprisingling I got opened in a car by another person in a car asking me directions.... that also is good if you catch a girl smiling at you as she is in her car and you then opening her as you are in your car and she is in your car..."do you happened to have some grey pupon? " and have her laugh.







I have had some women smile at me and I just stood there in seemingly bliss of not knowing what to do next.



So I advocate taking some action.









REality is I couldnt help myself to apply seduction to "everywhere you go", rather than to just stick to typical bars, clubs...that is what adapting seduction to your lifestyle rather than trying to change yourself for women. That is one way of seeing things, ofcourse if you are going out and partying go these places at night. Keep in mind always keep improving for the BEST.




Any comments or suggestions greatly appreciate it thanks
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Opening girls out of your car is a real crap shoot. The girl can't really even see your physical body, or body language... so she's got even less to go on to size you up. Also, you it's very difficult to make a connection of a stationary object from a moving car, and very hard to make a physical connection.

You're really better to park real fast, and then run up to the girls instead. That's what I've done quite a few times.

Sometimes you can't always park, so you could just open from the car... but don't expect consistent results.

I've actually never opened a girl while I was driving, I've always made an effort to actually get out of the car instead when it was possible. Otherwise, I just drove on.

Sunday, November 7, 2010

Guy gets kicked out of wallmart: ANALYSIS



Hey guys,

Found this online and thought it was interesting topic on Daygame.
This shows that some people need coaching,pretty bad.
A little comon sense could have avoided him getting in trouble.
Still some guys who try to do "typical pua stuff" has an effect that it makes them robotic and socially awkward.
This guy needs serious help. This is example of guy reads dives head first into pickup and makes things worse for himself.
Been there, done that....

When you get a chance read it!
I'm sure you will benefit from it and you can share ideas.

http://www.fastseduction.com/discussion/fs?action=9&boardid=2&read=105044&fid=146


Subject: WalMart Told Me To Stop Talking To Women

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I was trying to break out of my comfort zone and try some cocky funny. I also wanted to try a really softened neg to see if it would work in the daytime. This girl told the manager and I was told not to talk to women again.

I have been sarging in this WalMart for a year. This was one of my main fears for approaching. It sucks feeling like you have to creep around a store in fear that you could be told to leave or something.

Right now I feel like pickup is a crappy way to spend your day.

http://www.fastseduction.com/discuss...105044&fid=146



MY THOUGHTS:
This guy is being an appraoch robot.
He should be more social aware, dont go direct in secluded place. only street.
Go indeirect and dont neg and if you do, calibrate it by recovering with softener compliment.

Push pull effect or what Sinn uses emotional 101's

But friendly hi and bodylaungage and some conversation.


here is what other guys say:


wow what faggots. I dunno who the bigger faggots are those guys trying to help that freak, or the guys writing pages and pages trying to help guys in Mystery's forum.


When your getting started, you want to try anything to get any results. They unplugged this dude from the Matrix without him being ready.


This is one of those things that's hard to watch/read. Sarging a Wal Mart? Suggesting that you patronize the manager about Wal-Mart clientele to get back in favor? My God, I can't believe I was ever part of this crap.


I think the worst thing is - rather than admitting that daygaming wallmart is MAYBE a bad idea, he instead seeks validation from a bunch of divorcees and 40 year old virgins (otherwise known as fastseduction.com).



reading over masf, I cant beleive I took that as bible once .....such bad bullshit advice


yep this shit happens all the time becase most of the comunity guys are werd to begin with . aspergers or other social problems .

I would say that two things generally cause it

1 Not spending $ in the store the guys who decide to do so called day game at a shopping mall or the wall mart or whatever do so because they are broke from spending so much on seduction material so they show up at the mall
( a privet property that is their to make a profit) and just sarge every day without spending any money . So as a shop owner you have this creepy guy not spending $ in your store talking to your customers

2 showing up at the mall during the day and dressing like a douche bag ie pea cocking and again not purchasing anything in said store or mall.


well I know what this guy is going thru, I got busted once because I called a girl like 4 times in a two day period based on bad advice I got from Juggular. The problem is that it used to be that everyone believed these clowns were "alpha males" any advice that came out of there mouth was gold when half the time it was shit they pulled out of their ass.....

This guy has to get the whole "sarging" mentality out of his mind and develop some meaningfull hobbies.



Besides the fact that PUA is just retarded anyway its this shit:

Well for the cocky funny line I was shopping next to someone and

Me: I said "I know I'm sexy but don't try anything...wait can you cook?"

HB:Her reply no very seriously.

ME: I ejected

Trying to use somebody elses "lines" (prolly David D's floating around since 2002) word for word. Motherfuckers all "Yeahh I know I'm sexy blah blah blahblah" when its obvious he's a fuckin dork and it just makes him look creepy and fake as shit. He'd been better off just being his normal dorky self.



The whole point of cocky funny is it's tongue in cheek so it would be even funnier if some slob said it.

I'm assuming you know the difference between tongue in cheek and obviously trying too hard to look cool (aka how most borderline aspergers case wanna be player PUAfags act). Judging by his description of the incidetn and the fact that he GOT KICKED OUT OF GODDAM WAL-MART I conclude that PuaFag:

a. Doesn't know the difference.
b. THINKS he was being cool when he was actualy being creepy; hence why he was creeping bitches out.
c. Is a fucking retard.

Justin Wayne’s Free Lay Report : (1 min number close to F-CLose in less than 18 hrs)

Justin Wayne has great Lay Reports.
Guy knows his thing.I d recommend him working with guys who are midlevel advanced.
Definately knows his shite.

Anyways decided to repost this LR cause its good.
ENJOY!




Justin Wayne’s Free Lay Report : (1 min number close to F-CLose in less than 18 hrs)
In Justin Wayne's Lay Reports on October 20, 2010 at 8:39 am

Initial Pick-Up



Yea. So on Saturday night, I went out to Union Square. I did not intend to pick up chicks thats night because I met up with some old school friends of mines. So basically while I was in UNions Square, my roommate Luc showed me this cut girl walking really fast while she was ON THE PHONE. I couldnt help but to run behind on in the street and i went totally direct with ” hey, had to stop u for a sec becasue you r sooo sexy, and i totally wanna get in your pants right now….so wish me luck ” so she was bascially talking to me and her friend on the phone at the same time. We exchanged numbers quickly becasue she said she is late for dinner. So this was around like 11 oclock in the night. After that i went to the club with my boys Gio, Bob, Von, Sunny, and Dean.





Phone Game (The Follow-Up)

Ok. So since this was a fast and flakeyish 1 minute number close, I knew that i had to run some of my standardized phone game. But before i did, i made sure that she was texting me back first. Then i called her on Sunday in afternoon at 1. She lives all the way in Staten Island, but i didnt care, and went for it. I basically called her and vybed with her on phone to build some comfort and tried to get her out. * i knew that i had to follow up really fast since i did not get to run solid game on her initially*. So then i got her to agree to meet me at 5. I also over-hyped the venue.

The DATE and F-Close (SEX)



Soooo, I met her in Manhatten at 5 and took her straight to Queens to my usual date spot. I took her to my friend’s store to raise my social proof (even though its not necessary). Then i took her to the icecream spot where i could chit chat with her. And then i took her to the poolhole, where i did the first kiss. (i actually took a pic of it as you will see below). AGAIN EVERYONE, always try your best to kiss girls before attempting them to bring them in your house. It SAVES time when she is in your house so she will already be comfortable making out with you. Keep in mind that as soon as i get make out, i always take straight to my house. Which i did in this case. After we reached the house. I put on my Justin Wayne Seduction Game. Then the rest was history. i got a blowjob and fucked her doggystyle.


THE END.

PS. I Fucked 3 gilrs this week and didnt sleep much so me and my dick needs some good rest

Tuesday, September 21, 2010

Opening in New York daytime conversations

Opening Conversations with Women in New York City During the Day-daygame calibration cheat sheet
I want to acknowledge John “Awaken”Keegan for being my mentor in approaching and meeting women in the daytime. Also importantly Paul Janka for his undivided support and sharing his experiences with me in person. “Doc Holliday” who I respect greatly for helping me along the way with daytime expertise and showing me what I truly want for myself ,is the most important thing.
I really don’t follow or judge by what popularity says but by results and experience to grasp the knowledge of meeting women and changing your life, Thank You.
That being said,I am your friend Sandros, just left new york city.
Some people will say this is the easiest place to get laid and some people would say that the bitchiest women live here.
I began to notice on this trip how different from many places in the US. I live now in Miami and opening conversations can be easy or can be challenging, I think everyone can relate to that.
New York, wherever you are people are all over the place ,all types people from everywhere in the world with different cultures..etc
If you lived here in New York we see that each person is a world of itself, they are to themselves even when you enter a subway , you see that everybody is into themselves and nobody looks at anyone or has random conversations with a stranger .It is mostly considered rude and abruptive behavior if you attempt to do the opposite.From a New Yorker point of view , this is what is socially acceptable in that scenario according to the mindset of everyday people dealing with stress and emotions of living in the city.
So you see, when you open a girl in New York, if she's a local,student, a model or someone who lives there. They are programmed to act this way. If she’s from out of town spending a weekend , anything goes and this theory does not apply to them.E ven though Paul Janka recommends not going after out of towners in the day*. It can be done but the phone number exchange or the instant date then becomes a problem of complexity in logistics. At night it is very different.
New York girls unless they are in a certain store or environment could be receptive to a normal conversation (with an indirect opener as known in community stereotype), but it when it comes to street game where everywhere and anywhere counts, you should bear in mind what I say.
It isn't a shit test but it is a reaction of safety.
Sometimes direct can be too much for the inexperienced ,wrongly doing so with too much intent can creep her off and she may feel cornered. Avoid that.
You basically have to make yourself open to be social and accepting to transition into a normal conversation to make her feel safe also known as mirroring rapport. Of course there are exceptions to approach invitation. I hope this can help you if you decide to stop by New York.


-Sandros

Wednesday, February 11, 2009

Day Game review infield in nyc - Direct vs Indirect

Hey I like doing daygame alot I get talkative I walk use bodylanguage to know what opener to use ...

First when I started I go out and kick myself for not appraoching and take it hard..

Im very analytical but when infield I just go for it,then it comes to me...

I learned from Doc Holliday early in this before he retired to go direct ....

I had the chance of meeting this guy who goes by AWAKEN ,
he is here in nyc....
His style is more different and somethings I havent had the guts to do he does and gets away with it ...kind of wygant- janka style but more touching. He is SICK that he does subway PU's that I almost piss in my pants when he had a british woman kept moving the convo therefore it was like she was gaming him....shit like that is what makes nyc fabulous.

I started with indirect in daygame got alot of numbers alot of flakes and I use it when they are moving targets or they are near me and I just aks them based on situational...

It depends street,supermarket,etc... you have to think on your feet and sometimes it doesnt go anywhere...

that's the down side

Direct is like Doc describes better but not alot of women react to it.....

Im not sure if its low sexual self esteem when you hit direct on a 6 or 7 HB....
I hit one that from the back was blonde big boobs I went direct and did eyecontact with a light smile
(Ala Saffron, that fucker lol)

She didnt know what the fuck to do I carried the convo and was sweedish but said she was in a hurry and walked away...no number close .

anyways I dont overthink infield so I opened a another one when I saw pizza for a buck frozen section and she was near .

I asked her if they were good she said she didnt know

I told her they look like there good and that accent from jesrsey she said upstate , I said cool :)

Im in residency here so Im not to familiar with the area she asked me where and if I was a nurse
I said "you silly I should hit you with this pizza upside your head goofball"
(playfuly delivered she laughed)

Her: "aha Im taking my lawyer test ,,,"

we kept talking and she walked away....

I re entered and was comfortable and friendly and did the mehow reverse number close since it was ninjaesque....

She said I was funny and I shoould have said that she liked it but I said that you you are fun too...

ALWAYSS GIVE VALUE and REWARD HER FOR COMPLYING

then she said she had a BF I said "thats cool we are just socializing gettin to know each other :)"

she was very attractive..


OK you read this and you will see the pros and cons based on infield you decide what to use.

I use indirect for warmups after my 3rd set I go Direct cause Im in talkative state and it flows easier after the energy power of delivery of DIRECT it becomes a regular convo but we both know its cause Im attracted to her.....

The problem with daygame is TIME CONSTRAINT! I couldnt pull out the nlp "poem of glory"
ala valentines day...LOL!

sandro

Thursday, February 5, 2009

Doc Holliday!

Dude!

doc holiday!

I'm glad to have him as a friend and guys like him coaching...check his BLOG out !

We were talking and shooting the shit...cool guy,knowledgable and great coach.

check out their bootcamps...I took one awhile back!

over-n-out