Hey kids! As you all know I’m going through a big “Direct” shift in my game. It’s fun!
In this video I strive to get across what actually goes through my head when I see a beautiful woman…. And how I am 100% ok with telling her what’s going through my head, as well as hot attractive I think she is!
When I started this journey I was obsessed with openers. I could tell you 100 openers for a 100 situations. And hell, some of ‘em were pretty good! As I’ve been around for a while now, I see guys fussin’ about the same kind of things I was fussin’ about back then. What’s interesting is, I’ve found that by getting in touch with your inner ape man, and letting that ape man OUT – you actually cut out a lot of steps.
What am I talking about?
“What do I say to her?”
“How to I ask for her number?
“What if I run out of things to say?”
“How do I ask her out?”
“How do I make things sexual?”
When you’re in touch with your inner apeman – you don’t need to worry about this. When you speak from the ape “ME MAN. YOU WOMAN. YOU PRETTY. ME LIKE PRETTY WOMAN! You don’t have to worry about all those other details. They sort themselves out. All you have to be sure of are these three things.
1) You’re a heterosexual man.
2) She’s a woman
3) You are physically attracted to her, and would like to sleep with her/get to know her better.
That’s it. That’s all you have to know. What else is there? Not a lot. Just remember:
Some women will want to chat with you a bit before giving out their number. Be prepared to have a bit of chat before the interaction is done. Have SOMEthing to talk about… what you’re up to that day, or something interesting that’s happened recently. But, always remember you’re talking to her because you WANT TO HOOKUP WITH HER – and always push the interaction towards setting up a date!
Upon being opened directly, some women will test you to see if you really are a confident man. Don’t flinch. This is normal. Relax. Maintain eye contact. RELAX AND SMILE. She’s just another woman – one of millions. You, Ape man. You have chosen her – HER. She’s lucky she will have you to protect her from all the other ape man. LUCKY. Never forget this.
Keep the interaction short. 5 mins MAX. When you’re being direct, LESS IS MORE. Be that mysterious, confident guy. Get her number, have a little bit of chat, and GET OUT OF THERE! The more you talk, the more you fall into the “friend” zone. Some guy she spoke to for 25 minutes isn’t a mysterious sexy stranger. It’s her “friend.” Not good!
And remember: There are millions, MILLIONS of women out there you are compatible with. Most of the HOT ones you meet WILL have boyfriends. This is ok… you will have to speak to quite a few before you get somewhere. ENJOY IT! Love that feeling you get when you run up to a girl, and tell her she’s the hottest thing you’ve seen that year/week/hour. LOVE THE PROCESS! Enjoy meeting new people!
They’ll love you for it… and you’ll love you for it as well. And as an Added bonus, I’ll love you too!
That’s all for now, hope you enjoy the vid and leave some comments. I’ll be watchin’
Sasha
Showing posts with label direct. Show all posts
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Thursday, December 23, 2010
Sunday, December 19, 2010
failed 3am best review breakdown by LA TRIPP and FRANCO
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 3:56 AM, sandy wrote:
Hey Tripp, let me know if we could talk this week man, cool.
It has to do with different topics...
please read this FR cause I was abit tipsy when I wrote it.
Im fucking up with fast seductions man, and I need your help. WWYD?
Fast is all about amping up the ATTRACTION fast and enough comfort to keep her with you. This includes a lot of kino, escalated from almost none to quite a bit.
Lets talk soon bro,
FR
I was in bar 3am and one girl and ALL chodes hovering and
I approached went ok made mistakes buying drink to try to lock in
Yes, definitely a bad move. You've just been slotted with every other chode/AFC.
we took shots I did takeaways and locked in it looked l like she was gaming,then she said she was looking for the bartender that told her that he wanted to fuck her in a direct way....She siad guys being direct turned her on
Apparently you managed to show enough interest to still build some attraction in her. She was blatantly telling you what you needed to do to fuck her. So, you could have fucked her.
.....I was like that sounds cool but he isnt here tonight ...:)
Not too bad for a response. You should've shown your value a bit more though, with something like, "You don't need him, I'm the man tonight." Saying tonight or even for the night shows you aren't looking for something permanent, because likely she wasn't either.
she said she wasnt happy and unemployed.
She wasn't happy. You could've made her happy. The unemployed thing didn't need to be responded to.
I DIDNT KNOW HOW TO RESPOND WO COMING OFF TOO SUBSERVIANT and TURN IT INTO A POSITIVE THING
LOL, well there you go.
so I just said" Im student now so its kidah hard on myself too ,just waiting to finish"
Yeah . . . bad choice, lol.
as I went into asking if she read cosmo to transition to transition into sex talk she says NO! and she is more of GQ girl and grew up with liking guys stuff... I DIDNT KNOW HOW TO RECOVER !
"Oh, so you're a tomboy, eh?" Likely she would've agreed. "So, you like to play in the dirt . . . and get rough." Right there transitions into sex talk.
I said Im going to restroom be back and she said she go out for a smoke..
Yeah, bad move. lol.
I came back and chodes were surrounding her.. CHODE LEERING and PEERING
Of course, as they always do when the girl is hot.
I intro myself and they left play pool...for now ...but they keep looking over in spectator mode.
Your value was lost.
since I noticed her IOI another guy chode amogs
to spike her BT I took out my fake 80's DG sunglasses and put it on her
and seed the timebridge with friend and afterhours,
"I want you to come with me it will be fun", she said no I cant I live nearby and I m just hanging out ..... ( yeah hanging out at 3am
what are you talking about?!)
Because you had lost your value in her eyes/mind.
THE AMOG SCENE : then I fluff talk but she kept looking around and "whsperer amog" comes to side he doesnt know her, whisperes in her ear she looks at me and she laughs and looks at him... I then interupt and introduce myslef ..he doesnt comply and walks off but keeps looking at her while he is playing darts ...
So your value, at this moment, was higher than his. She had more interest in you. But, your value still isn't high enough since she's not focused on you.
She had already told you previously to be direct with her. My guess is you weren't direct enough.
I start preping and SOI, she then starts feeling tension from getting all female attention from the venue and she keeps looking at pool table and darts side while Im talking to her...
She was getting female attention?
I then say " HEY! look at me Im talking to you! HELLO!" kind of in a dominant way ( NOT SURE ITF THIS IS OK OR FUCK UP)
Actually, in this type of situation, this would show weakness on your part. Insecurity, and lack of self control.
she says like "yes" she looks right at me ...I go into story on female sex or natural women patter type improv I was doing and
A little interest on her part possibly, but more so trying to keep things calm.
I told her to "OK, lets go gt out of here"
she was like " Im staying here sorry Im not thet type of girl"
Yeah, she had no comfort or attraction built toward you, otherwise you could've pulled her out.
I was like " Shut up! shut up right now! I think your are cute and want to be with you"
Direct, but too late.
whisperer taps on her shoulder to come play darts ...
keeps whisperering again and I say "dude whats up man! " in a pissed way a little but subcommunication of wtf are you doing?!
You were showing MAJOR insecurity, man.
he wonders off but keeps looking...
she looks at me hard eye contact like sexual tension building but says
" last time I had a one night stand I ended up in a relationship , Im just going to play darts and pool with the boys"
She's trying to ease you off. Yet, because she's not getting you kicked out, she's hoping you might calm down and be a real alpha and give her a more genuine reason to leave with you.
amoggs came to check in and say "is everything alright?" I said yes and she just looked and he left but kept leering...
I said " Do you want to come with me? I really like to fuck you in the ass" and smiled with a smirk ala benicio del toro in traffic
she stared at me for congruence test and said
"I'd really like that ...but Im not going to do that "
" So, Im going to go play pool now.."
I was like " You are soo full of shit ; ) " and I left...kindah of upset and yet didnt pull....
The directness came too late. And, the directness was too vulgar, actually. You don't get that vulgar with the directness that soon. Especially not after you've shown so much insecurity. You can do better than this, bro.
FRANCO Comments:
Hello Sandros,
First of all get rid of negative frames like "failed seduction" they stuff your mind with emotions which impair your game.
There is no failure: only feedback.
let´s examine the feedback we can get from this case:
papa sandros wrote:
This FR is very very RAW I worte it out of bein a littel upset and tipsy...and its unedited.
>then she said she was looking for the bartender that told >her that he wanted to fuck her in a direct way....She siad >guys being direct turned her on.....I was like that sounds >cool but he isnt here tonight ...
This can mean two things:
1. She is telling you how to seduce her = she wants you to be a direct mother fucker in order to have her agree to have sex with you.
or ( this is more likely to be true)
2. She is a cock teaser..
The strategy is different depending on which one of the two.
>she said she wasnt happy and unemployed.
>I DIDNT KNOW HOW TO RESPOND WO COMING OFF TOO >SUBSERVIANT and TURN IT INTO A POSITIVE THING
When a girl gives you a too over sexual clue stop talking about anything connected with sex. If she is a cock teaser she will use that to betaise you.
Instead work on the principle: "Don´t explicate, demonstrate"
I would comment to this like
"Oh nice to hear that the guy wants you to have a great time"
And then I would stop any discussion connected with sex and focus on isolating her.
The asshole part of me I would put out when we are in isolation.
>so I just said" Im student now so its kidah hard on myself >too ,just waiting to finish"
>as I went into asking if she read cosmo to transition to >transition into sex talk she says NO! and she is more of GQ >girl and grew up with liking guys stuff... I DIDNT KNOW >HOW TO RECOVER !
She is telling you she is a masculine girl, maybe Daddy´s daughter.
This is the kind of girl who likes to be taken by a muscular gym teacher who teaches her how to pump iron and then fucks her.
If... she is not cock teasing you.. see there are Freak girls around who enjoy getting the guys to the edge of their sexual desire and then.. disappear.
>I said Im going to restroom be back and she said she go out >for a smoke..
>I came back and chodes were surrounding her.. CHODE >LEERING and PEERING
Giving her the attention she was craving for when she went to the bar. Notice: I said attention, not sex.
>I intro myself and they left play pool...for now ...but they >keep looking over in spectator mode.
>since I noticed her IOI another guy chode amogs
>to spike her BT I took out my fake 80's DG sunglasses and >put it on her
>and seed the timebridge with friend and afterhours,
>"I want you to come with me it will be fun", she said no I >cant I live nearby and I m just hanging out ..... ( yeah >hanging out at 3am
>what are you talking about?!)
Ok you could have said: "I am sure you have a nice kitchen. Let´s go to have a look at your kitchen" See the only way to f.close her is to have her away from the place she gets attention.. if she refuses isolation in spite of a very self-confident approach from you that means she will be there all the night fishing for attention and "maybe" go for the sex .. or go home alone.
>THE AMOG SCENE : then I fluff talk but she kept looking >around and "whsperer amog" comes to side he doesnt know >her, whisperes in her ear she looks at me and she laughs >and looks at him...
Well she is playing the field for attention. See, remember this: for women and especially of the Freak type attention is far more important than sex.
You need to remember on what she focuses in her game..
>I then interupt and introduce myslef ..he doesnt comply >and walks off but keeps looking at her while he is playing >darts ...
>I start preping and SOI, she then starts feeling tension from >getting all female attention from the venue and she keeps >looking at pool table and darts side while Im talking to her...
>I then say " HEY! look at me Im talking to you! HELLO!" kind >of in a dominant way ( NOT SURE ITF THIS IS OK OR FUCK >UP)
>she says like "yes" she looks right at me ...I go into story on >female sex or natural women patter type improv I was doing >and
>I told her to "OK, lets go gt out of here"
>she was like " Im staying here sorry Im not thet type of girl"
She is fishing for attention. She is the same girl who told you that the bartender told he wants to fuck her and that she likes direct men.
So: she is cock teasing you. Using the sex hook to get attention..
>I was like " Shut up! shut up right now! I think your are >cute and want to be with you"
>whisperer taps on her shoulder to come play darts ...
>keeps whisperering again and I say "dude whats up man! " in >a pissed way a little but subcommunication of wtf are you >doing?!
>he wonders off but keeps looking...
>she looks at me hard eye contact like sexual tension >building but says
>" last time I had a one night stand I ended up in a >relationship , Im just going to play darts and pool with the >boys"
Ok she wants to make sure that if she has sex you will not become the jealous possessive boy who stalks her..
amoggs came to check in and say "is everything alright?" I said yes and she just looked and he left but kept leering...
>I said " Do you want to come with me? I really like to fuck >you in the ass" and smiled with a smirk ala benicio del toro >in traffic
>she stared at me for congruence test and said
>"I'd really like that ...but Im not going to do that "
Ok she told you plain that she is enjoying the teasing game she is doing in the bar and the attention of the boys and having fun cock teasing guys.
Next time a girl tries to cock tease you with sex what you have to do is to shift the game to something boring and neutral like financial news and politics and then escalate on her with your kino without saying a word about sex.
She asks: "What you are doing?" when you touch her hand
You say: "I think next year the financial forecast is getting better" and put your hand on her ass..
If you do not verbalize SEX or anything else she will be forced to submit to kino of push you away which will ruin her need for communication and need for cock teasing you..
>" So, Im going to go play pool now.."
>I was like " You are soo full of shit ; ) " and I left...kindah >of upset and yet didnt pull....
Now nice to be cock teased.. next time you will be better with cock teasers.
Cheers, Franco
http://www.francoseduction.com/manual-of-seduction
Hey Tripp, let me know if we could talk this week man, cool.
It has to do with different topics...
please read this FR cause I was abit tipsy when I wrote it.
Im fucking up with fast seductions man, and I need your help. WWYD?
Fast is all about amping up the ATTRACTION fast and enough comfort to keep her with you. This includes a lot of kino, escalated from almost none to quite a bit.
Lets talk soon bro,
FR
I was in bar 3am and one girl and ALL chodes hovering and
I approached went ok made mistakes buying drink to try to lock in
Yes, definitely a bad move. You've just been slotted with every other chode/AFC.
we took shots I did takeaways and locked in it looked l like she was gaming,then she said she was looking for the bartender that told her that he wanted to fuck her in a direct way....She siad guys being direct turned her on
Apparently you managed to show enough interest to still build some attraction in her. She was blatantly telling you what you needed to do to fuck her. So, you could have fucked her.
.....I was like that sounds cool but he isnt here tonight ...:)
Not too bad for a response. You should've shown your value a bit more though, with something like, "You don't need him, I'm the man tonight." Saying tonight or even for the night shows you aren't looking for something permanent, because likely she wasn't either.
she said she wasnt happy and unemployed.
She wasn't happy. You could've made her happy. The unemployed thing didn't need to be responded to.
I DIDNT KNOW HOW TO RESPOND WO COMING OFF TOO SUBSERVIANT and TURN IT INTO A POSITIVE THING
LOL, well there you go.
so I just said" Im student now so its kidah hard on myself too ,just waiting to finish"
Yeah . . . bad choice, lol.
as I went into asking if she read cosmo to transition to transition into sex talk she says NO! and she is more of GQ girl and grew up with liking guys stuff... I DIDNT KNOW HOW TO RECOVER !
"Oh, so you're a tomboy, eh?" Likely she would've agreed. "So, you like to play in the dirt . . . and get rough." Right there transitions into sex talk.
I said Im going to restroom be back and she said she go out for a smoke..
Yeah, bad move. lol.
I came back and chodes were surrounding her.. CHODE LEERING and PEERING
Of course, as they always do when the girl is hot.
I intro myself and they left play pool...for now ...but they keep looking over in spectator mode.
Your value was lost.
since I noticed her IOI another guy chode amogs
to spike her BT I took out my fake 80's DG sunglasses and put it on her
and seed the timebridge with friend and afterhours,
"I want you to come with me it will be fun", she said no I cant I live nearby and I m just hanging out ..... ( yeah hanging out at 3am
what are you talking about?!)
Because you had lost your value in her eyes/mind.
THE AMOG SCENE : then I fluff talk but she kept looking around and "whsperer amog" comes to side he doesnt know her, whisperes in her ear she looks at me and she laughs and looks at him... I then interupt and introduce myslef ..he doesnt comply and walks off but keeps looking at her while he is playing darts ...
So your value, at this moment, was higher than his. She had more interest in you. But, your value still isn't high enough since she's not focused on you.
She had already told you previously to be direct with her. My guess is you weren't direct enough.
I start preping and SOI, she then starts feeling tension from getting all female attention from the venue and she keeps looking at pool table and darts side while Im talking to her...
She was getting female attention?
I then say " HEY! look at me Im talking to you! HELLO!" kind of in a dominant way ( NOT SURE ITF THIS IS OK OR FUCK UP)
Actually, in this type of situation, this would show weakness on your part. Insecurity, and lack of self control.
she says like "yes" she looks right at me ...I go into story on female sex or natural women patter type improv I was doing and
A little interest on her part possibly, but more so trying to keep things calm.
I told her to "OK, lets go gt out of here"
she was like " Im staying here sorry Im not thet type of girl"
Yeah, she had no comfort or attraction built toward you, otherwise you could've pulled her out.
I was like " Shut up! shut up right now! I think your are cute and want to be with you"
Direct, but too late.
whisperer taps on her shoulder to come play darts ...
keeps whisperering again and I say "dude whats up man! " in a pissed way a little but subcommunication of wtf are you doing?!
You were showing MAJOR insecurity, man.
he wonders off but keeps looking...
she looks at me hard eye contact like sexual tension building but says
" last time I had a one night stand I ended up in a relationship , Im just going to play darts and pool with the boys"
She's trying to ease you off. Yet, because she's not getting you kicked out, she's hoping you might calm down and be a real alpha and give her a more genuine reason to leave with you.
amoggs came to check in and say "is everything alright?" I said yes and she just looked and he left but kept leering...
I said " Do you want to come with me? I really like to fuck you in the ass" and smiled with a smirk ala benicio del toro in traffic
she stared at me for congruence test and said
"I'd really like that ...but Im not going to do that "
" So, Im going to go play pool now.."
I was like " You are soo full of shit ; ) " and I left...kindah of upset and yet didnt pull....
The directness came too late. And, the directness was too vulgar, actually. You don't get that vulgar with the directness that soon. Especially not after you've shown so much insecurity. You can do better than this, bro.
FRANCO Comments:
Hello Sandros,
First of all get rid of negative frames like "failed seduction" they stuff your mind with emotions which impair your game.
There is no failure: only feedback.
let´s examine the feedback we can get from this case:
papa sandros wrote:
This FR is very very RAW I worte it out of bein a littel upset and tipsy...and its unedited.
>then she said she was looking for the bartender that told >her that he wanted to fuck her in a direct way....She siad >guys being direct turned her on.....I was like that sounds >cool but he isnt here tonight ...
This can mean two things:
1. She is telling you how to seduce her = she wants you to be a direct mother fucker in order to have her agree to have sex with you.
or ( this is more likely to be true)
2. She is a cock teaser..
The strategy is different depending on which one of the two.
>she said she wasnt happy and unemployed.
>I DIDNT KNOW HOW TO RESPOND WO COMING OFF TOO >SUBSERVIANT and TURN IT INTO A POSITIVE THING
When a girl gives you a too over sexual clue stop talking about anything connected with sex. If she is a cock teaser she will use that to betaise you.
Instead work on the principle: "Don´t explicate, demonstrate"
I would comment to this like
"Oh nice to hear that the guy wants you to have a great time"
And then I would stop any discussion connected with sex and focus on isolating her.
The asshole part of me I would put out when we are in isolation.
>so I just said" Im student now so its kidah hard on myself >too ,just waiting to finish"
>as I went into asking if she read cosmo to transition to >transition into sex talk she says NO! and she is more of GQ >girl and grew up with liking guys stuff... I DIDNT KNOW >HOW TO RECOVER !
She is telling you she is a masculine girl, maybe Daddy´s daughter.
This is the kind of girl who likes to be taken by a muscular gym teacher who teaches her how to pump iron and then fucks her.
If... she is not cock teasing you.. see there are Freak girls around who enjoy getting the guys to the edge of their sexual desire and then.. disappear.
>I said Im going to restroom be back and she said she go out >for a smoke..
>I came back and chodes were surrounding her.. CHODE >LEERING and PEERING
Giving her the attention she was craving for when she went to the bar. Notice: I said attention, not sex.
>I intro myself and they left play pool...for now ...but they >keep looking over in spectator mode.
>since I noticed her IOI another guy chode amogs
>to spike her BT I took out my fake 80's DG sunglasses and >put it on her
>and seed the timebridge with friend and afterhours,
>"I want you to come with me it will be fun", she said no I >cant I live nearby and I m just hanging out ..... ( yeah >hanging out at 3am
>what are you talking about?!)
Ok you could have said: "I am sure you have a nice kitchen. Let´s go to have a look at your kitchen" See the only way to f.close her is to have her away from the place she gets attention.. if she refuses isolation in spite of a very self-confident approach from you that means she will be there all the night fishing for attention and "maybe" go for the sex .. or go home alone.
>THE AMOG SCENE : then I fluff talk but she kept looking >around and "whsperer amog" comes to side he doesnt know >her, whisperes in her ear she looks at me and she laughs >and looks at him...
Well she is playing the field for attention. See, remember this: for women and especially of the Freak type attention is far more important than sex.
You need to remember on what she focuses in her game..
>I then interupt and introduce myslef ..he doesnt comply >and walks off but keeps looking at her while he is playing >darts ...
>I start preping and SOI, she then starts feeling tension from >getting all female attention from the venue and she keeps >looking at pool table and darts side while Im talking to her...
>I then say " HEY! look at me Im talking to you! HELLO!" kind >of in a dominant way ( NOT SURE ITF THIS IS OK OR FUCK >UP)
>she says like "yes" she looks right at me ...I go into story on >female sex or natural women patter type improv I was doing >and
>I told her to "OK, lets go gt out of here"
>she was like " Im staying here sorry Im not thet type of girl"
She is fishing for attention. She is the same girl who told you that the bartender told he wants to fuck her and that she likes direct men.
So: she is cock teasing you. Using the sex hook to get attention..
>I was like " Shut up! shut up right now! I think your are >cute and want to be with you"
>whisperer taps on her shoulder to come play darts ...
>keeps whisperering again and I say "dude whats up man! " in >a pissed way a little but subcommunication of wtf are you >doing?!
>he wonders off but keeps looking...
>she looks at me hard eye contact like sexual tension >building but says
>" last time I had a one night stand I ended up in a >relationship , Im just going to play darts and pool with the >boys"
Ok she wants to make sure that if she has sex you will not become the jealous possessive boy who stalks her..
amoggs came to check in and say "is everything alright?" I said yes and she just looked and he left but kept leering...
>I said " Do you want to come with me? I really like to fuck >you in the ass" and smiled with a smirk ala benicio del toro >in traffic
>she stared at me for congruence test and said
>"I'd really like that ...but Im not going to do that "
Ok she told you plain that she is enjoying the teasing game she is doing in the bar and the attention of the boys and having fun cock teasing guys.
Next time a girl tries to cock tease you with sex what you have to do is to shift the game to something boring and neutral like financial news and politics and then escalate on her with your kino without saying a word about sex.
She asks: "What you are doing?" when you touch her hand
You say: "I think next year the financial forecast is getting better" and put your hand on her ass..
If you do not verbalize SEX or anything else she will be forced to submit to kino of push you away which will ruin her need for communication and need for cock teasing you..
>" So, Im going to go play pool now.."
>I was like " You are soo full of shit ; ) " and I left...kindah >of upset and yet didnt pull....
Now nice to be cock teased.. next time you will be better with cock teasers.
Cheers, Franco
http://www.francoseduction.com/manual-of-seduction
Sunday, April 4, 2010
Badboy notes of a lair talk
I like badboy cause he acts like a badboy.lol
nah, I like his aura of masculinity which most PUAs dont have that.
he is pretty good and I used his innergame, rapport, emotional states and his kiss close which is rarely seen. and I use 100% of the time.
guy talks natural game and he has exciting bootcamps stuff and can coach I heard.
I like his prioirties first which really I should have listened . he is arare guy in the pua community.
heres notes from a liar talk I found, ENJOY!!!
Notes From Badboy found from a lair talk
Badboy Quotes / Introduction
• Direct game works better here [in the US]
• I represent direct game
• The deeper I go, the more simple it becomes
• You’re not picking her up, you are seducing her
Emotions are contagious
The girl is a mirror image of yourself. She will reflect your beliefs, thoughts and how those things are projected by your presence. In a way, you are "picking up" yourself.
Women don’t want to be the one choosing, they want to be the chosen. You are choosing her
Most 9’s and 10’s are very insecure. I have more success talking to with American girls!
I love other guys. They drive the girl to the club, pay for her drinks and bring her back! I don’t have to do anything. The other guys are my best friends.
Emotions
How do you feel? How does she feel? Pay attention to how she feels!
Don’t negotiate with logic or argue your way into sleeping with her. Logic does not work with women. Of the Fortune 500 companies, only 4-5 CEOs are women. It is not in their nature to be logical.
Don’t change the way she thinks. Change the way she feels. When talking to a woman always notice how she feels during the interaction.
There are 5 emotions you must make her feel (Note: same as BadBoy’s DVDs)
1. Relaxed
2. Attraction
3. Trust
4. Physical Comfort
5. Connection
On being rich and on social status
Club -> Swords -> Guns -> Money
Being “rich” isn’t necessarily what you think. She’s not being a gold digger. It makes her feel the following emotions: comfort, security, protection, power, dominance, stability. The things that evoke these emotions have changed over time.
On buying drinks
Don’t buy drink as a way to impress or attract her. Do it for building trust and comfort after she is attracted to you. Having a drink has become a socialritual of friendship. Calibrate on drink buying. How many times have you thought, “if I only bought that girl a drink I would have got laid!?”
How to create Trust
• Changing location
• Leading (activity, motion)
• Give her something you own, or wear something of hers (glasses, hat, etc)
• Sit down (high heels are painful)- you are helping her with her pain
• Time = trust
• Give something to the girl’s friend, and take the girl (show physical leading technique) and tell her you will come back.
•
Physical Comfort /Kino Escalation
• High five
• Palm reading
• Smile, relax, “love to be touched” vibe
• Movement of kino goes from hand, to shoulders, to the head/hair, to the mouth, breast, and then back down finally to the vaginal region.
On Dominance
Dominance = achieving things without using force, but influence.
Aggression = force. You will face resistance if you use force.
[Badboy demos locking hand leading and sitting the girls down by lightly pressing her hip area]
If you get resistance, you are either a) too weak (no motivation or energy) b) too forceful, too much pressure and will raise resistance and trigger “danger” in her mind.
Q&A
The club is a fake and dramatic environment. Pick one girl and think, “I am going to make her happy for 1 night.” Think about her, not about your wanting to fuck her
The best cologne is the pheromone the female body releases
[AW: was he joking?]
All your life, girls have developed ways to filter out the real men. Be the man. I don’t believe in rejection.
“In love and war, remember there are no rules”
On day 2s
Tell the girl she can pick the time, you pick the location. Location gives you more control
Be unpredictable. If you become predictable, it is game over.
Day 2 venues
• Mini-golf
• Go car
• Telescope and blanket (park)
• Running / sports
Party vs. Emotional Girls
Party girls: confident, sexy, and flirty. Attraction keys: leading. Don’t talk to her, show her with physical lead. “Sex, drugs and rock and roll”, if you are good sex, they will come back for more.
Emotional girls: long term, value building, security and protection. Attraction keys: build value, connection. Have the “we are soul mates” vibe.
Openers
Whisper “You’re so fucking sexy” and then walk away (she will think about you for the rest of the night. Wait 10-15 minutes, “now we can talk”
Badboy tells us story about the HB10 with 7 guys, how he turned her around and then shook his head and walked away. She was hooked.
“Stop” like a police sign
Both hands on shoulders turn her around and keep smiling
Hand leading (very dominant)
Social Circle Game
You still have to have club game in order to build and maintain a social circle. The club scene is the most difficult environment that will test your social intuition skills. Keep this in mind as I tell you about social game
5 really hot girlfriends. Keep your dick in your pants and try not to fuck them. Each will have a circle of about 10 girlfriends
If you take a friend, be sure to replace her. “Bait” to catch the bigger fish / use as pivots
House party – invite 10 girls, 3-4 guys. 3-4 parties later, make them feel comfortable so they will get drunk and sleep over. Then harvest.
Give the girl a mission, “you bring the salad, you get the drinks” to reduce party flake rate
Relax, no community guys, no hitting on girls at party
Ending
“Being a mPUA is great. For me, it is the chase that gets off. The sex is great too, but I love the chase!”
“My purpose in life is to give women the men they want”
nah, I like his aura of masculinity which most PUAs dont have that.
he is pretty good and I used his innergame, rapport, emotional states and his kiss close which is rarely seen. and I use 100% of the time.
guy talks natural game and he has exciting bootcamps stuff and can coach I heard.
I like his prioirties first which really I should have listened . he is arare guy in the pua community.
heres notes from a liar talk I found, ENJOY!!!
Notes From Badboy found from a lair talk
Badboy Quotes / Introduction
• Direct game works better here [in the US]
• I represent direct game
• The deeper I go, the more simple it becomes
• You’re not picking her up, you are seducing her
Emotions are contagious
The girl is a mirror image of yourself. She will reflect your beliefs, thoughts and how those things are projected by your presence. In a way, you are "picking up" yourself.
Women don’t want to be the one choosing, they want to be the chosen. You are choosing her
Most 9’s and 10’s are very insecure. I have more success talking to with American girls!
I love other guys. They drive the girl to the club, pay for her drinks and bring her back! I don’t have to do anything. The other guys are my best friends.
Emotions
How do you feel? How does she feel? Pay attention to how she feels!
Don’t negotiate with logic or argue your way into sleeping with her. Logic does not work with women. Of the Fortune 500 companies, only 4-5 CEOs are women. It is not in their nature to be logical.
Don’t change the way she thinks. Change the way she feels. When talking to a woman always notice how she feels during the interaction.
There are 5 emotions you must make her feel (Note: same as BadBoy’s DVDs)
1. Relaxed
2. Attraction
3. Trust
4. Physical Comfort
5. Connection
On being rich and on social status
Club -> Swords -> Guns -> Money
Being “rich” isn’t necessarily what you think. She’s not being a gold digger. It makes her feel the following emotions: comfort, security, protection, power, dominance, stability. The things that evoke these emotions have changed over time.
On buying drinks
Don’t buy drink as a way to impress or attract her. Do it for building trust and comfort after she is attracted to you. Having a drink has become a socialritual of friendship. Calibrate on drink buying. How many times have you thought, “if I only bought that girl a drink I would have got laid!?”
How to create Trust
• Changing location
• Leading (activity, motion)
• Give her something you own, or wear something of hers (glasses, hat, etc)
• Sit down (high heels are painful)- you are helping her with her pain
• Time = trust
• Give something to the girl’s friend, and take the girl (show physical leading technique) and tell her you will come back.
•
Physical Comfort /Kino Escalation
• High five
• Palm reading
• Smile, relax, “love to be touched” vibe
• Movement of kino goes from hand, to shoulders, to the head/hair, to the mouth, breast, and then back down finally to the vaginal region.
On Dominance
Dominance = achieving things without using force, but influence.
Aggression = force. You will face resistance if you use force.
[Badboy demos locking hand leading and sitting the girls down by lightly pressing her hip area]
If you get resistance, you are either a) too weak (no motivation or energy) b) too forceful, too much pressure and will raise resistance and trigger “danger” in her mind.
Q&A
The club is a fake and dramatic environment. Pick one girl and think, “I am going to make her happy for 1 night.” Think about her, not about your wanting to fuck her
The best cologne is the pheromone the female body releases
[AW: was he joking?]
All your life, girls have developed ways to filter out the real men. Be the man. I don’t believe in rejection.
“In love and war, remember there are no rules”
On day 2s
Tell the girl she can pick the time, you pick the location. Location gives you more control
Be unpredictable. If you become predictable, it is game over.
Day 2 venues
• Mini-golf
• Go car
• Telescope and blanket (park)
• Running / sports
Party vs. Emotional Girls
Party girls: confident, sexy, and flirty. Attraction keys: leading. Don’t talk to her, show her with physical lead. “Sex, drugs and rock and roll”, if you are good sex, they will come back for more.
Emotional girls: long term, value building, security and protection. Attraction keys: build value, connection. Have the “we are soul mates” vibe.
Openers
Whisper “You’re so fucking sexy” and then walk away (she will think about you for the rest of the night. Wait 10-15 minutes, “now we can talk”
Badboy tells us story about the HB10 with 7 guys, how he turned her around and then shook his head and walked away. She was hooked.
“Stop” like a police sign
Both hands on shoulders turn her around and keep smiling
Hand leading (very dominant)
Social Circle Game
You still have to have club game in order to build and maintain a social circle. The club scene is the most difficult environment that will test your social intuition skills. Keep this in mind as I tell you about social game
5 really hot girlfriends. Keep your dick in your pants and try not to fuck them. Each will have a circle of about 10 girlfriends
If you take a friend, be sure to replace her. “Bait” to catch the bigger fish / use as pivots
House party – invite 10 girls, 3-4 guys. 3-4 parties later, make them feel comfortable so they will get drunk and sleep over. Then harvest.
Give the girl a mission, “you bring the salad, you get the drinks” to reduce party flake rate
Relax, no community guys, no hitting on girls at party
Ending
“Being a mPUA is great. For me, it is the chase that gets off. The sex is great too, but I love the chase!”
“My purpose in life is to give women the men they want”
Sunday, May 10, 2009
Saffron : DOUBLE SNL LRSNL LR Vegas
Download MP3] : Vegas Bathroom Pull + Stripper Pull w/ Pics!
Saffron, ABCs of Attraction Intern Coach in Training breaks down what is possible in Las Vegas using the ABCs of Attraction.
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He is one of the guys that blew me away when I met him...
he was working with Practical Pickup with Doc Holliday and Entropy
he retired but I communicate with him once in awhile
the advice he would give me after I met with him was just awesome
even till this day..I think he is top 3 PUA's
this is one of the LR that made me want to go to Boston and meet these guys...
Saffron, Doc Holliday and Entropy
I met game girl which I tottally fell for ... anyways
back to this LR which is a classic....
Or read the detailed field report originally written on Saffron's blog below:
Two girls in one night is always a good night. I was in Vegas last week Approach Coaching for ABCs of Attraction. I spent the majority of the night winging for students and pulling girls back to our VIP section. The picture below is a 2-set of the hottest girls in the venue that I had to hand over to the students. Ah, the joys of being an instructor. One of the students ended up making out with one of the girls while the other #closed. I'm proud of my young padawans.
After 1 AM, the Asian Playboy comes over to me and says, "You have 1 hour to pull." I'm always a challenge whore so I ran out of the VIP section and started running my standard dance floor game. At this point of the night, my social proof was through the roof because I led about 10 different groups of HBs back to our table.
I run lazy game, so I opened the closest attractive set near our booth. I use my Dance Floor Direct Opener and its an instant hook. The girl pulls me in. She grinds on me. I start my dance floor escalation routine. I execute a Fatality and a Lower Back Pain. She's going nuts. At this point there is no verbal game, its just physical escalation fractionated with BL takeaways and then my patented head rush kino pull. I enter my Sexual Eye Contact routine, which puts her through the roof.
This girl is ready to go. I pull her back into the VIP section so I can lower her BT. APB taught me that if you raise a girl's BT too much too soon, her entire state collapses during any kind of lull and she enters into buyers' remorse. I refused to let that happen that night. I enter into mini-comfort loops, run my cold read sex routine and stack into my adventurous sex DHVs. I pull my whisper move and enter into a heavy non-needy frame.
She straddles me.
HBBathroom: "Come closer. I'm going to do something crazy to you."
Me: [enters non-verbal Abundance Routine – something I've learned from sarging HB10s]
HBBathroom: [goes crazy] What are you doing? Look AT ME. You can't handle this.
Me: Who said I was going to handle anything?
HBBathroom: You're going to LOVE it. [tries to start kissing me. Licks my neck. Grabs my crotch]
Me: Shut up. Let's go.
I pull her out of the VIP. She pulls me into the bar and buys me a beer (I didn't even ask for one). We down it. I remain reticent. I let her chase. She starts grinding on me hard again. I don't mind it since she has this nice big ass and knows how to work it. I realize that I only have 30 minutes left to complete the 1 hour challenge. I command her to stop and pull her out of the club.
We're in the cab making out. I tell the cab driver my hotel. She sees her hotel in the distance and realizes that she left the club without her friend. She starts freaking out since they're leaving in less than 6 hours to fly back home and tells the driver to reroute to her hotel. FUCK.
We get to her hotel and she pulls me out of the cab. We're making out in the lobby now. She tells me that her phone is dead and she just needs to check if her friend is OK. We find her friend, they do the annoying "I haven't seen you in forever" routine and then her friend decides to try and cockblock me. HAH. I pull out the anti-cockblock shields and run the befriender routine. We're now all in a high energy state and grab a few shots.
CB tells me, "You're not getting laid tonight. Sorry, buddy, but my mom and dad are sleeping upstairs and I'm not going back to your hotel to have a threesome with you, because we're leaving in a couple of hours." (she's pretty drunk at this point).
I whisper into HBBathroom's ear, "This is your last night here. You can either sit here and talk to your friend like you do every night at home, or you can choose to have an amazing experience with me. Ditch your friend." HBbathroom turns to me and checks me for any signs of weakness. None. A couple of minutes later they run into the bathroom for some girl time. She comes out and freaks out. "OMG, I lost my cell phone." The CB starts freaking out and runs off to look for it at the bar.
HBBathroom turns to me and says "sike. I have it right here." Then she pulls me into the women's bathroom, strips my pants off and starts going down on me. At this point I have about 5 minutes left to my 1 hour challenge, so I pick her up, finger bang her, and then strip her naked. I bend her over the toilet and we go at it. Simultaneously, I whip out my iPhone and try to take a few money shots, but alas, there was piss poor lighting.
We wrap up and head back out. She buys me a couple more shots and then we exchange information.
--------- Part 2: Stripper Pull
I got into the cab feeling pretty satisfied. I plowed through some fucked up logistics and got my first ever bathroom pull. But, I wasn't going to rest on my laurels and the night was still young (3:00 AM) so I told the driver to drive me to the after hours club. All the strippers and hired guns go to this club once they get off shift, so I was looking forward to a good night.
I show up at the club solo in a post-sex glow. I could still smell the first girl on me. I look around to see if I could make any automatic wings. Most of the guys are rolling through in groups and they look like the bottle-buying type. I move on into the club and its this cavernous underground bar with four separate rooms. At this point, I'm in a pretty low state, since having sex kills my sarge drive for at least 24 hours.
I tell myself, fuck it, KOP: "keep on plowing." The club is packed with HB9s and HB10s. I can obviously tell that most of the girls are locals and most of them are strippers and hired guns. Girls are walking around in their work outfits, wearing bikinis and cut off shorts and ripped tank tops. Titties everywhere. I befriend a few sets and run indirect game for a while. I don't get blown out, but I'm also not deeply hooking any one set. I realize that I needed to run some HB10/ADD Party Girl game. I scan the bar and find my target – HBStripper.
I run my Balls to the Walls (BTW) Direct Opener and I see her instantly hook. I tease her a little then dominate the frame. I run my standard High Value Dancing routine and pull her on to the dance floor. At this point she breaks out her stripper moves. She pulls me onto a sofa and gives me a lap dance. She then pulls me back onto the dance floor and we become the center of attention. The entire room is looking at us grinding the shit out of each other. I pull out my head rush kino pull and my Sexual EC Routine. She's loving it.
I stop and control myself and reenter my Abundance Routine. She tries to pull me back into her and tries to qualify herself again through dancing. I don't bite. We pull away to the bar and she starts trying to kiss me. I dodge the kisses and pull away. We banter for a little bit and she starts grinding on me again. What an ADD stripper.
Now, what happens next I think, is key to the interaction. I know at this point she physically wants to sleep with me, but she isn't emotionally sure, so she starts testing me. She starts grinding on another guy who's sitting down in front of us. I sit back and watch and then open up a girl next to me. The stripper gets jealous and comes back to cockblock. I reshift my attention on her and then she tells me "I have to go for a second."
I stop and think to myself – if I let her leave, I may not see her again, since we're in the VIP section and its hard to get back in. But, if I don't let her go, I lose my frame and my dominance. So, I shrug and push her off. She leaves. I open up a few other sets and now due to my high social proof, girls are hooking much more easily. I get bored and realize none of the girls are as hot as HBStripper so after a half hour I eject. I find HBStripper near the exit talking to one of her guy friends. He's a rich chode, probably a customer, and has his hands all over her. I walk up to her, turn her around, and start making out with her. The chode just stands there with his dick in his hands.
I pull away first. HBStripper comes up for air and asks "What's that for?" I say, "that's for making me wait. Do it again and I'm going to spank you." (Spank) *credit to BradP.
I lean back against the bar and re-enter my non-needy frame. She starts grinding on me and she shares her drink with me. I'm getting bored and its now getting close to 6 am, so I run my ejection routine. HBStripper stares into my eyes for any incongruence and then gives me verbal LMR.
"Irrelevant." (Credit: Jeffy) "Let's Go."
We get her coat and exit the club. The sun is rising as we're making out in the back seat of the taxi. Déjà vu. We show up at our hotel and there's no LMR, since I already took care of it at the club. She really blew my mind. Well that, and some other parts of my body. Here are assorted pictures from my adventures:
Download the Audio Lay Report with Commentery's by Asian Playboy: http://www.abcofattraction.com/media/audio/saffrondoublelr.mp3
and visit Saffron's personal blog:
Saffron, ABCs of Attraction Intern Coach in Training breaks down what is possible in Las Vegas using the ABCs of Attraction.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
He is one of the guys that blew me away when I met him...
he was working with Practical Pickup with Doc Holliday and Entropy
he retired but I communicate with him once in awhile
the advice he would give me after I met with him was just awesome
even till this day..I think he is top 3 PUA's
this is one of the LR that made me want to go to Boston and meet these guys...
Saffron, Doc Holliday and Entropy
I met game girl which I tottally fell for ... anyways
back to this LR which is a classic....
Or read the detailed field report originally written on Saffron's blog below:
Two girls in one night is always a good night. I was in Vegas last week Approach Coaching for ABCs of Attraction. I spent the majority of the night winging for students and pulling girls back to our VIP section. The picture below is a 2-set of the hottest girls in the venue that I had to hand over to the students. Ah, the joys of being an instructor. One of the students ended up making out with one of the girls while the other #closed. I'm proud of my young padawans.
After 1 AM, the Asian Playboy comes over to me and says, "You have 1 hour to pull." I'm always a challenge whore so I ran out of the VIP section and started running my standard dance floor game. At this point of the night, my social proof was through the roof because I led about 10 different groups of HBs back to our table.
I run lazy game, so I opened the closest attractive set near our booth. I use my Dance Floor Direct Opener and its an instant hook. The girl pulls me in. She grinds on me. I start my dance floor escalation routine. I execute a Fatality and a Lower Back Pain. She's going nuts. At this point there is no verbal game, its just physical escalation fractionated with BL takeaways and then my patented head rush kino pull. I enter my Sexual Eye Contact routine, which puts her through the roof.
This girl is ready to go. I pull her back into the VIP section so I can lower her BT. APB taught me that if you raise a girl's BT too much too soon, her entire state collapses during any kind of lull and she enters into buyers' remorse. I refused to let that happen that night. I enter into mini-comfort loops, run my cold read sex routine and stack into my adventurous sex DHVs. I pull my whisper move and enter into a heavy non-needy frame.
She straddles me.
HBBathroom: "Come closer. I'm going to do something crazy to you."
Me: [enters non-verbal Abundance Routine – something I've learned from sarging HB10s]
HBBathroom: [goes crazy] What are you doing? Look AT ME. You can't handle this.
Me: Who said I was going to handle anything?
HBBathroom: You're going to LOVE it. [tries to start kissing me. Licks my neck. Grabs my crotch]
Me: Shut up. Let's go.
I pull her out of the VIP. She pulls me into the bar and buys me a beer (I didn't even ask for one). We down it. I remain reticent. I let her chase. She starts grinding on me hard again. I don't mind it since she has this nice big ass and knows how to work it. I realize that I only have 30 minutes left to complete the 1 hour challenge. I command her to stop and pull her out of the club.
We're in the cab making out. I tell the cab driver my hotel. She sees her hotel in the distance and realizes that she left the club without her friend. She starts freaking out since they're leaving in less than 6 hours to fly back home and tells the driver to reroute to her hotel. FUCK.
We get to her hotel and she pulls me out of the cab. We're making out in the lobby now. She tells me that her phone is dead and she just needs to check if her friend is OK. We find her friend, they do the annoying "I haven't seen you in forever" routine and then her friend decides to try and cockblock me. HAH. I pull out the anti-cockblock shields and run the befriender routine. We're now all in a high energy state and grab a few shots.
CB tells me, "You're not getting laid tonight. Sorry, buddy, but my mom and dad are sleeping upstairs and I'm not going back to your hotel to have a threesome with you, because we're leaving in a couple of hours." (she's pretty drunk at this point).
I whisper into HBBathroom's ear, "This is your last night here. You can either sit here and talk to your friend like you do every night at home, or you can choose to have an amazing experience with me. Ditch your friend." HBbathroom turns to me and checks me for any signs of weakness. None. A couple of minutes later they run into the bathroom for some girl time. She comes out and freaks out. "OMG, I lost my cell phone." The CB starts freaking out and runs off to look for it at the bar.
HBBathroom turns to me and says "sike. I have it right here." Then she pulls me into the women's bathroom, strips my pants off and starts going down on me. At this point I have about 5 minutes left to my 1 hour challenge, so I pick her up, finger bang her, and then strip her naked. I bend her over the toilet and we go at it. Simultaneously, I whip out my iPhone and try to take a few money shots, but alas, there was piss poor lighting.
We wrap up and head back out. She buys me a couple more shots and then we exchange information.
--------- Part 2: Stripper Pull
I got into the cab feeling pretty satisfied. I plowed through some fucked up logistics and got my first ever bathroom pull. But, I wasn't going to rest on my laurels and the night was still young (3:00 AM) so I told the driver to drive me to the after hours club. All the strippers and hired guns go to this club once they get off shift, so I was looking forward to a good night.
I show up at the club solo in a post-sex glow. I could still smell the first girl on me. I look around to see if I could make any automatic wings. Most of the guys are rolling through in groups and they look like the bottle-buying type. I move on into the club and its this cavernous underground bar with four separate rooms. At this point, I'm in a pretty low state, since having sex kills my sarge drive for at least 24 hours.
I tell myself, fuck it, KOP: "keep on plowing." The club is packed with HB9s and HB10s. I can obviously tell that most of the girls are locals and most of them are strippers and hired guns. Girls are walking around in their work outfits, wearing bikinis and cut off shorts and ripped tank tops. Titties everywhere. I befriend a few sets and run indirect game for a while. I don't get blown out, but I'm also not deeply hooking any one set. I realize that I needed to run some HB10/ADD Party Girl game. I scan the bar and find my target – HBStripper.
I run my Balls to the Walls (BTW) Direct Opener and I see her instantly hook. I tease her a little then dominate the frame. I run my standard High Value Dancing routine and pull her on to the dance floor. At this point she breaks out her stripper moves. She pulls me onto a sofa and gives me a lap dance. She then pulls me back onto the dance floor and we become the center of attention. The entire room is looking at us grinding the shit out of each other. I pull out my head rush kino pull and my Sexual EC Routine. She's loving it.
I stop and control myself and reenter my Abundance Routine. She tries to pull me back into her and tries to qualify herself again through dancing. I don't bite. We pull away to the bar and she starts trying to kiss me. I dodge the kisses and pull away. We banter for a little bit and she starts grinding on me again. What an ADD stripper.
Now, what happens next I think, is key to the interaction. I know at this point she physically wants to sleep with me, but she isn't emotionally sure, so she starts testing me. She starts grinding on another guy who's sitting down in front of us. I sit back and watch and then open up a girl next to me. The stripper gets jealous and comes back to cockblock. I reshift my attention on her and then she tells me "I have to go for a second."
I stop and think to myself – if I let her leave, I may not see her again, since we're in the VIP section and its hard to get back in. But, if I don't let her go, I lose my frame and my dominance. So, I shrug and push her off. She leaves. I open up a few other sets and now due to my high social proof, girls are hooking much more easily. I get bored and realize none of the girls are as hot as HBStripper so after a half hour I eject. I find HBStripper near the exit talking to one of her guy friends. He's a rich chode, probably a customer, and has his hands all over her. I walk up to her, turn her around, and start making out with her. The chode just stands there with his dick in his hands.
I pull away first. HBStripper comes up for air and asks "What's that for?" I say, "that's for making me wait. Do it again and I'm going to spank you." (Spank) *credit to BradP.
I lean back against the bar and re-enter my non-needy frame. She starts grinding on me and she shares her drink with me. I'm getting bored and its now getting close to 6 am, so I run my ejection routine. HBStripper stares into my eyes for any incongruence and then gives me verbal LMR.
"Irrelevant." (Credit: Jeffy) "Let's Go."
We get her coat and exit the club. The sun is rising as we're making out in the back seat of the taxi. Déjà vu. We show up at our hotel and there's no LMR, since I already took care of it at the club. She really blew my mind. Well that, and some other parts of my body. Here are assorted pictures from my adventures:
Download the Audio Lay Report with Commentery's by Asian Playboy: http://www.abcofattraction.com/media/audio/saffrondoublelr.mp3
and visit Saffron's personal blog:
Wednesday, February 11, 2009
Day Game review infield in nyc - Direct vs Indirect
Hey I like doing daygame alot I get talkative I walk use bodylanguage to know what opener to use ...
First when I started I go out and kick myself for not appraoching and take it hard..
Im very analytical but when infield I just go for it,then it comes to me...
I learned from Doc Holliday early in this before he retired to go direct ....
I had the chance of meeting this guy who goes by AWAKEN ,
he is here in nyc....
His style is more different and somethings I havent had the guts to do he does and gets away with it ...kind of wygant- janka style but more touching. He is SICK that he does subway PU's that I almost piss in my pants when he had a british woman kept moving the convo therefore it was like she was gaming him....shit like that is what makes nyc fabulous.
I started with indirect in daygame got alot of numbers alot of flakes and I use it when they are moving targets or they are near me and I just aks them based on situational...
It depends street,supermarket,etc... you have to think on your feet and sometimes it doesnt go anywhere...
that's the down side
Direct is like Doc describes better but not alot of women react to it.....
Im not sure if its low sexual self esteem when you hit direct on a 6 or 7 HB....
I hit one that from the back was blonde big boobs I went direct and did eyecontact with a light smile
(Ala Saffron, that fucker lol)
She didnt know what the fuck to do I carried the convo and was sweedish but said she was in a hurry and walked away...no number close .
anyways I dont overthink infield so I opened a another one when I saw pizza for a buck frozen section and she was near .
I asked her if they were good she said she didnt know
I told her they look like there good and that accent from jesrsey she said upstate , I said cool :)
Im in residency here so Im not to familiar with the area she asked me where and if I was a nurse
I said "you silly I should hit you with this pizza upside your head goofball"
(playfuly delivered she laughed)
Her: "aha Im taking my lawyer test ,,,"
we kept talking and she walked away....
I re entered and was comfortable and friendly and did the mehow reverse number close since it was ninjaesque....
She said I was funny and I shoould have said that she liked it but I said that you you are fun too...
ALWAYSS GIVE VALUE and REWARD HER FOR COMPLYING
then she said she had a BF I said "thats cool we are just socializing gettin to know each other :)"
she was very attractive..
OK you read this and you will see the pros and cons based on infield you decide what to use.
I use indirect for warmups after my 3rd set I go Direct cause Im in talkative state and it flows easier after the energy power of delivery of DIRECT it becomes a regular convo but we both know its cause Im attracted to her.....
The problem with daygame is TIME CONSTRAINT! I couldnt pull out the nlp "poem of glory"
ala valentines day...LOL!
sandro
First when I started I go out and kick myself for not appraoching and take it hard..
Im very analytical but when infield I just go for it,then it comes to me...
I learned from Doc Holliday early in this before he retired to go direct ....
I had the chance of meeting this guy who goes by AWAKEN ,
he is here in nyc....
His style is more different and somethings I havent had the guts to do he does and gets away with it ...kind of wygant- janka style but more touching. He is SICK that he does subway PU's that I almost piss in my pants when he had a british woman kept moving the convo therefore it was like she was gaming him....shit like that is what makes nyc fabulous.
I started with indirect in daygame got alot of numbers alot of flakes and I use it when they are moving targets or they are near me and I just aks them based on situational...
It depends street,supermarket,etc... you have to think on your feet and sometimes it doesnt go anywhere...
that's the down side
Direct is like Doc describes better but not alot of women react to it.....
Im not sure if its low sexual self esteem when you hit direct on a 6 or 7 HB....
I hit one that from the back was blonde big boobs I went direct and did eyecontact with a light smile
(Ala Saffron, that fucker lol)
She didnt know what the fuck to do I carried the convo and was sweedish but said she was in a hurry and walked away...no number close .
anyways I dont overthink infield so I opened a another one when I saw pizza for a buck frozen section and she was near .
I asked her if they were good she said she didnt know
I told her they look like there good and that accent from jesrsey she said upstate , I said cool :)
Im in residency here so Im not to familiar with the area she asked me where and if I was a nurse
I said "you silly I should hit you with this pizza upside your head goofball"
(playfuly delivered she laughed)
Her: "aha Im taking my lawyer test ,,,"
we kept talking and she walked away....
I re entered and was comfortable and friendly and did the mehow reverse number close since it was ninjaesque....
She said I was funny and I shoould have said that she liked it but I said that you you are fun too...
ALWAYSS GIVE VALUE and REWARD HER FOR COMPLYING
then she said she had a BF I said "thats cool we are just socializing gettin to know each other :)"
she was very attractive..
OK you read this and you will see the pros and cons based on infield you decide what to use.
I use indirect for warmups after my 3rd set I go Direct cause Im in talkative state and it flows easier after the energy power of delivery of DIRECT it becomes a regular convo but we both know its cause Im attracted to her.....
The problem with daygame is TIME CONSTRAINT! I couldnt pull out the nlp "poem of glory"
ala valentines day...LOL!
sandro
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