I figured now that even if I set things up w hotel which I found for 100 bucks in south beach. have wine in the roomd ice soda and water crackers. and ham and cheese just in case.
to be downstairs at the bar for a drink and then go by the pool and the beach and then to the room.
sounds good but I dont ahve that time ?
so I say she parks her car. meets me there,8pm -9pm ish
I have something special at the room with wine and champagne.
we get a drink,go to the room and watch the view.
sexual escalate microloop theory.
gives us time for sex and her sleeping with me. she will probably be with me until 12 midnight or 11:30.
I know she has to get home for her kid and work tomorrow.
drink and up to the room...
or
room pickup my wallet Sinn, back down drink,then up for the view.
Showing posts with label Logistics. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Logistics. Show all posts
Thursday, February 3, 2011
Logistical ideas update renting vacation room for the day
I reviewed CJs way and its clever, but he has his place.
so if you have your place its pretty much game over for the girl.
theres always an excuse to take her home.
plausible denialbility.
So I say WTF.
I came up with a plan.
set up the next date ahead of time.
Logistics based.
So I had ideas of renting a room.
I mean after the first lay its pretty much fuck anywhere after.
so I can either try to BT spike her and then hope she wants to fuck?
or should I take the lead where we are going to fuck.
I realized that that itself is a dhv, guys who dont have a place its tough,it can be done but if the girl is and adventuress and she wants to meet you at her place.
its not always like that so
I came up with a plan.
I seeded the dhv with my friends are coming from california,etc
then whatever then set up solid next date.
example monday 8pm/
rent a place for the day near the beach or a bar.
then surprise her to come to you as a something "spontaneous" "adventure"
have a fee drinks and then transition to the beach for a walk.
or even have her wait and you tell her you have to get something upstairs and then try to sexually escalate. (tara prego LR) it worked with no LMR.
have water soda crackers chips
wine champagne glasses.candles and condoms.
even have a drink at the bar and then walk by the pool and beach.
I like it :)
budget cost is like 150 bucks almost. nothing more and better than a hooker.
after something like that its pretty much sex after that.
"oh my friend were in town and left me the extra night here, its that cool of them" :)
ofcourse logistics dont matter if you have a place to lay her.silly billy.
will try for monday.
so if you have your place its pretty much game over for the girl.
theres always an excuse to take her home.
plausible denialbility.
So I say WTF.
I came up with a plan.
set up the next date ahead of time.
Logistics based.
So I had ideas of renting a room.
I mean after the first lay its pretty much fuck anywhere after.
so I can either try to BT spike her and then hope she wants to fuck?
or should I take the lead where we are going to fuck.
I realized that that itself is a dhv, guys who dont have a place its tough,it can be done but if the girl is and adventuress and she wants to meet you at her place.
its not always like that so
I came up with a plan.
I seeded the dhv with my friends are coming from california,etc
then whatever then set up solid next date.
example monday 8pm/
rent a place for the day near the beach or a bar.
then surprise her to come to you as a something "spontaneous" "adventure"
have a fee drinks and then transition to the beach for a walk.
or even have her wait and you tell her you have to get something upstairs and then try to sexually escalate. (tara prego LR) it worked with no LMR.
have water soda crackers chips
wine champagne glasses.candles and condoms.
even have a drink at the bar and then walk by the pool and beach.
I like it :)
budget cost is like 150 bucks almost. nothing more and better than a hooker.
after something like that its pretty much sex after that.
"oh my friend were in town and left me the extra night here, its that cool of them" :)
ofcourse logistics dont matter if you have a place to lay her.silly billy.
will try for monday.
Thursday, December 16, 2010
speed dating and step closer to the bedroom -logistics by KAMO
Smaxter
If you plan on going speed dating, you’re going to have a very different experience from any other time you’ve gone out to meet women. I’ll give you the rundown of what speed dating is, if you’re new to it.
How it Works
Normally, you have ten little tables with a guy and a girl at each table. When a whistle blows, you start your “date” and talk for six minutes. After your six-minute date, a whistle goes off again, and you rotate to a new person. All this time, you keep track what girls you liked by writing on a card, and the girls keep track of what guys they liked. At the end of the night, you hand your cards in to the host. If there’s a mutual match, you get emailed her contact information. You can pick as many matches as you want.
Now that you understand how it works, here are some tips to get the best results out of speed dating.
The first thing to keep in mind is that your game begins the moment you walk into the room. While your six-minute dates have not started yet, the women are looking at all the guys and will notice your body language, clothes, confidence, and behavior. While you’re waiting to get started, get into a friendly conversation with some of the other guys there. Don’t be that guy standing by yourself with your head down. Don’t try to out-alpha the other guys in the room, but be the dominant and more animated man of the bunch, so the women see you’re the guy who’s got the most attention of the people around him.
Also keep in mind that there are a number of potential lays that are not actual participants in the event. At the first speed dating event I went to, I ended up sleeping with the hostess running the event. At another speed dating event, there were multiple age groups doing speed dating, and I picked up a woman in the “30’s” age group. I’m in my 20’s, so we hadn’t talked during the “dates,” but I was able to hit on her afterward and lay her the next week.
As for what to do on the actual “dates,” a lot of this will depend on how much you’ve worked on your game in the past months leading up to this. You might think that since you only have six minutes, you’re better off doing a lot of funny teases and doing routines that make you look clever and humorous. This actually doesn’t work too well in this scenario. You’re better off just being relaxed, making good eye contact, and vibing with the girl.
Don’t let the woman control the conversation. You’ll find a lot of women in this scenario will want to ask you question after question, “Where do you live? What do you do? What do you do for fun?” This type of rapid-fire questioning is something she’s doing to avoid awkward silences, which means her mind is on anything but really connecting with you. Be the dominant one in the interaction, and cut off any topics that feel boring for either of you.
Also be dominant with other guys during the rotation. If you’ve gotten up to move to the next table, and a guy is taking too long at the next table talking to the girl past the whistle, pat him on the shoulder and say “Time to get up, buddy.” It’s counter-intuitive, but you lose absolutely no points for being an asshole at a place like this. You end up looking like the alpha-dog at the event instead. Notice I said that you can out-alpha guys during the dates, but not in the conversations before the six-minute dates start.
Keep these principles in mind, and you’ll have a good amount of mutual matches when you find out your speed dating results.
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.One Step Closer to The Bedroom
by smaxter on 22. Nov, 2010 in Uncategorized
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Here at Smaxter, we have a number of methods and techniques for getting a girl out of a bar or club. Sometimes they’re more sexually direct, and other times it’s more casual, such as inviting the women to an afterparty with your buddies.
Perhaps the easiest way to get a girl outside is to bounce her for food. Late at night, women are hungry, and more likely to forget any diet they’re currently on. I’ll rank the the preferred food options from best to worst:
A.Any unique dessert spot
B.Pizza
C.Mexican Food
D.Street Vendors such as hot dog carts
E.Fast Food
Regarding the last one, if you can bring a girl out of a club to get a dollar cheeseburger and fries from Burger King, you’re either hitting rock bottom in your woman standards, or are probably outgrowing this blog.
As with a lot of logistical moves in pick-up, the more you can oversell a place, the easier it is to move the girls. Outside a big club in our area is a shop called Heavenly Cupcakes. Most people got the majority of their cupcakes in 4th grade birthday parties when their classmates brought in treats to share. Because of this, the novelty of getting a cupcake at 1:00 am is exciting for a number of women.
Other unique late night food shops can be worked the same way, especially if it’s “kid food.” If there’s a place to get a good grilled cheese, or ice cream bar, that will do the trick.
Unfortunately, most nightlife locations don’t have anything that special around. I’ve found pizza to work better than Mexican, but depending on the girl, these can be reversed.
4 Musts to get her out of the venue.
◦Let her know you are coming right back
◦Let her know you won’t have trouble getting back in
◦Sell the food place as best you can
◦Propose getting food on a high note ( ex: right after teasing or making her laugh)
Before mentioning food, it helps to have a “priming question.” My favorite is to ask, “Are you stamped?” if you’re in a bar or club that stamps your hand going in.
She’ll say yes, and then you say, “I’m so hungry, let’s go get a slice of pizza. It’s just down the street.”
Your priming question has her already saying yes, which gives her momentum with agreeing with your next suggestion.
The question you’ll get after this is usually, “Are you sure we can get back in?” Answer this one honestly, which should be yes, as long as you’re not within a half hour from closing time.
Then walk with her to get food.
If there’s no stamping process, it helps to sell the food location before putting it in the context of you leaving with her. You can say “Have you been to Hodad’s? They have the best mini-burgers ever… and they cut the fries right in front of you.” She’ll say something like, “Oh, that sounds yummy.” Once she verbally says that the food location sounds good, it’ll be easier to get her to agree to you saying, “Let’s go check it out; we’ll come back.”
While we don’t focus on pumping buying temperature the entire interaction, you will have a much higher chance of getting a girl to leave with you if you have some teasing or push-pull going on before suggesting the bounce.
What you do after you get her to the food location is another story, which we’ll address in a future article.
« Making Excuses to Not ApproachThe Secret to Speed Dating »4 Responses to “One Step Closer to The Bedroom”
Dave 22. Nov, 2010 at 7:18 pm # I like the suggestion to ask is she is stamped before prompting her to go eat with you. I gotta try this !
A
Reply Dave 22. Nov, 2010 at 7:20 pm # Also wondering do you normally eat at the restaurant, or get it to go, and lead her to your place ?
Reply
Kamo 23. Nov, 2010 at 8:18 am # I try avoiding sit-down restaurants because it takes longer and she will get tired. Ideally, grab a couple slices of pizza in a to go box and start heading back to your place. Lure them home with with fresh smell of pepperoni pizza at 2am!
Reply Jesse Charger 06. Dec, 2010 at 3:58 pm # I like the desert spot idea. Chicks can’t say no.
If you plan on going speed dating, you’re going to have a very different experience from any other time you’ve gone out to meet women. I’ll give you the rundown of what speed dating is, if you’re new to it.
How it Works
Normally, you have ten little tables with a guy and a girl at each table. When a whistle blows, you start your “date” and talk for six minutes. After your six-minute date, a whistle goes off again, and you rotate to a new person. All this time, you keep track what girls you liked by writing on a card, and the girls keep track of what guys they liked. At the end of the night, you hand your cards in to the host. If there’s a mutual match, you get emailed her contact information. You can pick as many matches as you want.
Now that you understand how it works, here are some tips to get the best results out of speed dating.
The first thing to keep in mind is that your game begins the moment you walk into the room. While your six-minute dates have not started yet, the women are looking at all the guys and will notice your body language, clothes, confidence, and behavior. While you’re waiting to get started, get into a friendly conversation with some of the other guys there. Don’t be that guy standing by yourself with your head down. Don’t try to out-alpha the other guys in the room, but be the dominant and more animated man of the bunch, so the women see you’re the guy who’s got the most attention of the people around him.
Also keep in mind that there are a number of potential lays that are not actual participants in the event. At the first speed dating event I went to, I ended up sleeping with the hostess running the event. At another speed dating event, there were multiple age groups doing speed dating, and I picked up a woman in the “30’s” age group. I’m in my 20’s, so we hadn’t talked during the “dates,” but I was able to hit on her afterward and lay her the next week.
As for what to do on the actual “dates,” a lot of this will depend on how much you’ve worked on your game in the past months leading up to this. You might think that since you only have six minutes, you’re better off doing a lot of funny teases and doing routines that make you look clever and humorous. This actually doesn’t work too well in this scenario. You’re better off just being relaxed, making good eye contact, and vibing with the girl.
Don’t let the woman control the conversation. You’ll find a lot of women in this scenario will want to ask you question after question, “Where do you live? What do you do? What do you do for fun?” This type of rapid-fire questioning is something she’s doing to avoid awkward silences, which means her mind is on anything but really connecting with you. Be the dominant one in the interaction, and cut off any topics that feel boring for either of you.
Also be dominant with other guys during the rotation. If you’ve gotten up to move to the next table, and a guy is taking too long at the next table talking to the girl past the whistle, pat him on the shoulder and say “Time to get up, buddy.” It’s counter-intuitive, but you lose absolutely no points for being an asshole at a place like this. You end up looking like the alpha-dog at the event instead. Notice I said that you can out-alpha guys during the dates, but not in the conversations before the six-minute dates start.
Keep these principles in mind, and you’ll have a good amount of mutual matches when you find out your speed dating results.
------------------------------------------------
.One Step Closer to The Bedroom
by smaxter on 22. Nov, 2010 in Uncategorized
ShareShare
Here at Smaxter, we have a number of methods and techniques for getting a girl out of a bar or club. Sometimes they’re more sexually direct, and other times it’s more casual, such as inviting the women to an afterparty with your buddies.
Perhaps the easiest way to get a girl outside is to bounce her for food. Late at night, women are hungry, and more likely to forget any diet they’re currently on. I’ll rank the the preferred food options from best to worst:
A.Any unique dessert spot
B.Pizza
C.Mexican Food
D.Street Vendors such as hot dog carts
E.Fast Food
Regarding the last one, if you can bring a girl out of a club to get a dollar cheeseburger and fries from Burger King, you’re either hitting rock bottom in your woman standards, or are probably outgrowing this blog.
As with a lot of logistical moves in pick-up, the more you can oversell a place, the easier it is to move the girls. Outside a big club in our area is a shop called Heavenly Cupcakes. Most people got the majority of their cupcakes in 4th grade birthday parties when their classmates brought in treats to share. Because of this, the novelty of getting a cupcake at 1:00 am is exciting for a number of women.
Other unique late night food shops can be worked the same way, especially if it’s “kid food.” If there’s a place to get a good grilled cheese, or ice cream bar, that will do the trick.
Unfortunately, most nightlife locations don’t have anything that special around. I’ve found pizza to work better than Mexican, but depending on the girl, these can be reversed.
4 Musts to get her out of the venue.
◦Let her know you are coming right back
◦Let her know you won’t have trouble getting back in
◦Sell the food place as best you can
◦Propose getting food on a high note ( ex: right after teasing or making her laugh)
Before mentioning food, it helps to have a “priming question.” My favorite is to ask, “Are you stamped?” if you’re in a bar or club that stamps your hand going in.
She’ll say yes, and then you say, “I’m so hungry, let’s go get a slice of pizza. It’s just down the street.”
Your priming question has her already saying yes, which gives her momentum with agreeing with your next suggestion.
The question you’ll get after this is usually, “Are you sure we can get back in?” Answer this one honestly, which should be yes, as long as you’re not within a half hour from closing time.
Then walk with her to get food.
If there’s no stamping process, it helps to sell the food location before putting it in the context of you leaving with her. You can say “Have you been to Hodad’s? They have the best mini-burgers ever… and they cut the fries right in front of you.” She’ll say something like, “Oh, that sounds yummy.” Once she verbally says that the food location sounds good, it’ll be easier to get her to agree to you saying, “Let’s go check it out; we’ll come back.”
While we don’t focus on pumping buying temperature the entire interaction, you will have a much higher chance of getting a girl to leave with you if you have some teasing or push-pull going on before suggesting the bounce.
What you do after you get her to the food location is another story, which we’ll address in a future article.
« Making Excuses to Not ApproachThe Secret to Speed Dating »4 Responses to “One Step Closer to The Bedroom”
Dave 22. Nov, 2010 at 7:18 pm # I like the suggestion to ask is she is stamped before prompting her to go eat with you. I gotta try this !
A
Reply Dave 22. Nov, 2010 at 7:20 pm # Also wondering do you normally eat at the restaurant, or get it to go, and lead her to your place ?
Reply
Kamo 23. Nov, 2010 at 8:18 am # I try avoiding sit-down restaurants because it takes longer and she will get tired. Ideally, grab a couple slices of pizza in a to go box and start heading back to your place. Lure them home with with fresh smell of pepperoni pizza at 2am!
Reply Jesse Charger 06. Dec, 2010 at 3:58 pm # I like the desert spot idea. Chicks can’t say no.
Wednesday, September 1, 2010
how to calibrate sexual escalation on the girl
I think the tittle is abit misleading but in reality it has to do with your style of game.
I have friends and Ive started with learning and we still have different game,shows you that you have to be yourself to make game work. i know it sounds like shit but lets get back to topic.
I have closed different types of girls and until you have a setback or achallenge you wont realize how valuable it is to know how to go sexual.
there are great posts and books to show you this...
Id say you have to figure it out based on yours style of game, your plan to have her with her if its a date and what type fo girl she is, how her state is at that moment.
All what I just mentioned equal to success my friends.
to calibrate it is to know when an how to do it.
here is what tripp says:
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-Well, logistics aren't key, but sexual tension is. Logistics play a bigger role the lower her BT is.
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Im having this issue.
When its time to close and have sex when I am about to enter the motel, she freaks out and gets major LMR.
I cant take her to my place cause Im temporaily sharing it with someone while school starts again for me to move the fuck out on my own.
Also I tried in the car but it isnt comfortable at all.
in the past I never got LMR like this but its predictable a girl would get freaked out when she enters a motel and starts feeling like a slut.
last girls didnt care about motel they were really horny and I just took them.
but Im now finding that a problem when I have made out and touched her sexually and she is turned on and then we driving somewhere and I drive in to motel.
Its kindah funny but fucking frustrating......
I'd like to ask any experienced guys out there who have had to deal with such problem.
once I move the fuck out , and get girls to my place would be smoother pickup.
any insight would help thanks.-
PS:
I'm probably not keeping her sexually aroused on the drive to the motel.
L.A. Tripp
Admin
Number of posts: 4531
Age: 37
Location: Evansville, IN
Points: 1442
Reputation: 12
Registration date: 2008-03-14
Subject: Re: CLOSING outside of your place, I have a problem Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:15 pm
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-Is it just this one girl that has given you this problem, or is it multiple girls?
You say last girls didn't care and you just took them.
Also, is it uncomfortable for YOU to take them in your truck? Or for them?
_________________
http://tripp-author.weebly.com for my new book!
http://latripp.blogspot.com/
www.latripp.weebly.com
Alpha: "Come here, now."
AFC: "Would you mind coming here please, if it's not too much trouble?"
You have one shot, and it's in the first 3 seconds.
Make her qualify herself to YOU.
Don't back down from the girl. CHALLENGE her!
sandros
AFC
Number of posts: 26
Age: 32
Location: miami
Points: 36
Reputation: 0
Registration date: 2009-11-23
Subject: Re: CLOSING outside of your place, I have a problem Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:38 am
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L.A. Tripp wrote:
Is it just this one girl that has given you this problem, or is it multiple girls?
Only her . I think its ASD, I have some fault caus eI might have not calibrated the escalation by arousing her enough and after the long date I took her to motel and she was hesitant and talking nonsense how she takes a while to trust somoene to get intimate and seriosuly taking all into logic.
i think that when it came time for me to get off the car and get the room , gave her a chance for her ASD to hit turbo.- I have to see if the car pull could work with someother women. in the past it was easy to use plausible deniability to pull a girl to yourplace and in 20 minutes she was naked having sex. Now its like Logistics plus Momentum of sexual tension are KEY in any Pull.
You say last girls didn't care and you just took them.
before Game I do recall picking up a girl walking in a bad neighbourhood and getting her to my car and after 10 minutes or so of talking casually , no deep comfort just superficial stuff, no bt spiking either.. i suggest to go somewhere private and we went to a motel and she was horny about it....dropped her off and we never talked again...when I stopped by weeks later I saw her with a man and she saw my car and she smiled at me infront of him but nothing happened, I left it at that.
Also, is it uncomfortable for YOU to take them in your truck? Or for them?
well its kindah for me... I think i could get a BJ...I mean it could work, never tried it...it could escalate into then transitioning to motel after car.
sexual technique of whatever isnt really car possible, I think its because I was in dominican republic once and the girl I was with had her pants down and sucking my dick in a dark alley and the cops showed up.....anywyas I had to pay the cops money..only in a 3rd world country and the girl was pissed at me, I dont know dude. It be fucked up if that happend to me here in the US.
L.A. Tripp
Admin
Number of posts: 4531
Age: 37
Location: Evansville, IN
Points: 1442
Reputation: 12
Registration date: 2008-03-14
Subject: Re: CLOSING outside of your place, I have a problem Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:58 am
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-Well, logistics aren't key, but sexual tension is. Logistics play a bigger role the lower her BT is.
Since it's just this one girl, don't sweat it. Just friend zone her, hang out with her, see who she knows, etc.
The whole cop thing, lol, damn. Well, I've had a security guard catch me, but that's because he was seriously watching me, TRYING to catch me. But again, that's in your head and you're ALLOWING IT to fuck with your mind. So, once again, YOU have to exert control over that and stop letting it mess with you.
_________________
http://tripp-author.weebly.com for my new book!
http://latripp.blogspot.com/
www.latripp.weebly.com
Alpha: "Come here, now."
AFC: "Would you mind coming here please, if it's not too much trouble?"
You have one shot, and it's in the first 3 seconds.
Make her qualify herself to YOU.
Don't back down from the girl. CHALLENGE her!
I have friends and Ive started with learning and we still have different game,shows you that you have to be yourself to make game work. i know it sounds like shit but lets get back to topic.
I have closed different types of girls and until you have a setback or achallenge you wont realize how valuable it is to know how to go sexual.
there are great posts and books to show you this...
Id say you have to figure it out based on yours style of game, your plan to have her with her if its a date and what type fo girl she is, how her state is at that moment.
All what I just mentioned equal to success my friends.
to calibrate it is to know when an how to do it.
here is what tripp says:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
+
----
-Well, logistics aren't key, but sexual tension is. Logistics play a bigger role the lower her BT is.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Im having this issue.
When its time to close and have sex when I am about to enter the motel, she freaks out and gets major LMR.
I cant take her to my place cause Im temporaily sharing it with someone while school starts again for me to move the fuck out on my own.
Also I tried in the car but it isnt comfortable at all.
in the past I never got LMR like this but its predictable a girl would get freaked out when she enters a motel and starts feeling like a slut.
last girls didnt care about motel they were really horny and I just took them.
but Im now finding that a problem when I have made out and touched her sexually and she is turned on and then we driving somewhere and I drive in to motel.
Its kindah funny but fucking frustrating......
I'd like to ask any experienced guys out there who have had to deal with such problem.
once I move the fuck out , and get girls to my place would be smoother pickup.
any insight would help thanks.-
PS:
I'm probably not keeping her sexually aroused on the drive to the motel.
L.A. Tripp
Admin
Number of posts: 4531
Age: 37
Location: Evansville, IN
Points: 1442
Reputation: 12
Registration date: 2008-03-14
Subject: Re: CLOSING outside of your place, I have a problem Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:15 pm
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-Is it just this one girl that has given you this problem, or is it multiple girls?
You say last girls didn't care and you just took them.
Also, is it uncomfortable for YOU to take them in your truck? Or for them?
_________________
http://tripp-author.weebly.com for my new book!
http://latripp.blogspot.com/
www.latripp.weebly.com
Alpha: "Come here, now."
AFC: "Would you mind coming here please, if it's not too much trouble?"
You have one shot, and it's in the first 3 seconds.
Make her qualify herself to YOU.
Don't back down from the girl. CHALLENGE her!
sandros
AFC
Number of posts: 26
Age: 32
Location: miami
Points: 36
Reputation: 0
Registration date: 2009-11-23
Subject: Re: CLOSING outside of your place, I have a problem Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:38 am
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L.A. Tripp wrote:
Is it just this one girl that has given you this problem, or is it multiple girls?
Only her . I think its ASD, I have some fault caus eI might have not calibrated the escalation by arousing her enough and after the long date I took her to motel and she was hesitant and talking nonsense how she takes a while to trust somoene to get intimate and seriosuly taking all into logic.
i think that when it came time for me to get off the car and get the room , gave her a chance for her ASD to hit turbo.- I have to see if the car pull could work with someother women. in the past it was easy to use plausible deniability to pull a girl to yourplace and in 20 minutes she was naked having sex. Now its like Logistics plus Momentum of sexual tension are KEY in any Pull.
You say last girls didn't care and you just took them.
before Game I do recall picking up a girl walking in a bad neighbourhood and getting her to my car and after 10 minutes or so of talking casually , no deep comfort just superficial stuff, no bt spiking either.. i suggest to go somewhere private and we went to a motel and she was horny about it....dropped her off and we never talked again...when I stopped by weeks later I saw her with a man and she saw my car and she smiled at me infront of him but nothing happened, I left it at that.
Also, is it uncomfortable for YOU to take them in your truck? Or for them?
well its kindah for me... I think i could get a BJ...I mean it could work, never tried it...it could escalate into then transitioning to motel after car.
sexual technique of whatever isnt really car possible, I think its because I was in dominican republic once and the girl I was with had her pants down and sucking my dick in a dark alley and the cops showed up.....anywyas I had to pay the cops money..only in a 3rd world country and the girl was pissed at me, I dont know dude. It be fucked up if that happend to me here in the US.
L.A. Tripp
Admin
Number of posts: 4531
Age: 37
Location: Evansville, IN
Points: 1442
Reputation: 12
Registration date: 2008-03-14
Subject: Re: CLOSING outside of your place, I have a problem Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:58 am
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-Well, logistics aren't key, but sexual tension is. Logistics play a bigger role the lower her BT is.
Since it's just this one girl, don't sweat it. Just friend zone her, hang out with her, see who she knows, etc.
The whole cop thing, lol, damn. Well, I've had a security guard catch me, but that's because he was seriously watching me, TRYING to catch me. But again, that's in your head and you're ALLOWING IT to fuck with your mind. So, once again, YOU have to exert control over that and stop letting it mess with you.
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Monday, June 14, 2010
Harem Management 101
Somebody recently linked this on the Boston boards and I COMPLETELY forgot that I wrote it. I saw it today and was like, “damn, this is awesome, when did I write this?” So anyway, here it is on the blog.
Alright, here’s what I would call Harem Management 101.
Really, this shit comes down more to how much free time you have and not being stupid than anything else.
As any guy who this post actually applies to knows, women are TIME CONSUMING. They love to sit around and talk and cuddle and do a bunch of nothing with you all day. Typically, if a girl comes over at 8PM one night, it’s pretty much a given that I’m not going to be productive for the rest of the night. Keep this in mind and adjust accordingly.
With that said, when we’re juggling multiple women, they fall into two categories: the FB and the MLTR. FB’s are of the pump-and-dump variety, more of booty calls. You don’t typically hang out with them a long time nor sleep over at their place or let them crash at yours. Sponteneity is more of the norm as calling her up at 10PM one night for a quickie isn’t out of line at all. As such, FB’s are easy on your schedule because they can fit in almost anywhere and you can go long stretches without seeing them (probably up to two to three weeks).
MLTR’s on the other hand are a once-a-week minimum. They usually stay over and vice-versa and you will often spend most of the day/night with her. They’re more time consuming and also weekend eligible (i.e., you should be willing to give them a Friday or Saturday).
For purely logistical reasons, I would not keep more than two MLTR’s at a time. At one point I had 3 MLTR’s and 3 FB’s, and I literally spent twice as much time in other beds as I did my own.
I’ll break down a little scale as far as time-consuming goes, MLTR = 1GF, FB = 0.5GF. So for instance, 2 MLTR’s and 2 FB’s would = 3GF’s.
1GF = Easily manageable. Far more nights free than not. Be careful of scarcity complex and getting too attached to the one girl.
2GF = Still manageable. 2 MLTR’s + 1 FB is probably my favorite rotation as you still have quality time with quality women, have chances to still go out every week, but will never go more than 2-3 days without getting laid.
3GF = This is where it begins to get time consuming. You’re now spending just about every other night with a girl. If you work a lot or have a lot of hobbies, this is probably the most women you can handle at once.
4GF = You really must hate being home and/or alone. No time to go out, always tired. Spending a night by yourself actually begins to look like a luxury.
5GF = This begins to test your sanity. If you still force yourself to go out on weekends, you no longer have ANY nights free. Literally almost every night is a “date” or spent with one girl or another. I got close to this once and I literally had NO FREE TIME. Ever. After a week I freaked out and dropped a couple girls.
You hear about guys like Zan or DavidX who have juggled up 7 or 9 GF’s at a time, but in both cases, the girls all not only know ABOUT each other but knew each other. Having dealt with multiple girlfriends, I don’t buy this at all — unless they’re calling their FB’s “girlfriends” (which some guys do). Simply the amount of time necessary to manage all of the relationships and the fact that you only have so much sex drive. I mean, my sex drive can barely keep up with ONE girlfriend, but NINE? You’d be spending four hours a day fucking and the another four fighting about which girlfriends you were fucking and which ones you weren’t. Your life would fall apart.
I think 4GF is the highest you could reasonably go without having the girls meet each other and start double booking them. I don’t have nearly as much experience with introducing FB’s and MLTR’s and having them hang out. The basic idea is that you tell each girl that you will not tolerate any jealousy or drama from any single girl, that they must at least be courteous to the other women in your life and then just hope the women get along well. Even then, you have to do a lot of maintenance and arbitrating. So the massive amounts of time consumption still exists.
Really, there’s no getting around the time factor. Guys get off bragging or day-dreaming about having like six women at once, but once you actually start dating 5-6 women at a time, the massive amounts of time needed to manage those relationships defeats ANY satisfaction anyway. I mean, sure it’s cool to fuck five different girls in one week, it’s always nice to say you’ve done it. But the reality is at the end of that week I would have killed to have two nights by myself.
Here are some other general guidelines:
1) Try to find a day of the week for each of your MLTR’s. Mondays-Thursdays are great. Check your schedule against hers and see what works. Chicks actually really like this if you can arrange this and tell them, “OK, every Monday is our night together.” Save the FB’s for bootie calls later on in the week when you’re drunk and horny on a Saturday.
2) Obviously, to avoid double-booking, you’re going to have to plan out each week a week in advance. Guideline number one makes this much easier, but a lot of times these girls will invite you to shit or you’ll have new day two’s and shit set up. When you only have 1-2 girls, making plans isn’t a big deal, but when you’re juggling 4-5, planning a week in advance is MANDATORY. Find out the girl’s schedule and make plans. It’s never a bad idea.
3) Managing everyone’s expectations: if a girl wants you to hang out with her next Wednesday, but Wednesday is booked, just tell her “sorry, I got plans, but I’m free Thursday.” If it’s something specific and personal to her (like she’s in a performance or her friend out of town is coming, etc.), call your Wednesday girl and reschedule telling her something ambiguous. NEVER underestimate the power of ambiguity. Saying, “Oh something came up, can we hang out Thursday instead?” will rarely get a second thought. If the girl does say, “Oh, what are you doing?” that should send up a flag that she’s becoming emotionally involved and wants to know why you’re rearranging your time with her. I like taking the route of being honest, except use “my friend’ vaguely to describe what’s going on. For instance, in this example if the girl asked me why I was rescheduling, I would say, “My friend has a performance Wednesday, and they asked me to go to it.” It’s true. But it’s sexually ambiguous.
4) Dropping girls from the rotation requires little more than not calling them. Trust me, if you have enough girls you’ll find yourself forgetting to call your lesser favorites anyway.
5) If any two are bisexual or bi-curious, consider introducing two of them. Double book a night. Tell each one about the other one beforehand and get them to look forward to meeting and then see what happens. In my experience, the best threesome potential happens with a MLTR and an FB combo. Two MLTR’s will get pissy and jealous of each other, and two FB’s, there’s just not enough investment in you.
Alright, here’s what I would call Harem Management 101.
Really, this shit comes down more to how much free time you have and not being stupid than anything else.
As any guy who this post actually applies to knows, women are TIME CONSUMING. They love to sit around and talk and cuddle and do a bunch of nothing with you all day. Typically, if a girl comes over at 8PM one night, it’s pretty much a given that I’m not going to be productive for the rest of the night. Keep this in mind and adjust accordingly.
With that said, when we’re juggling multiple women, they fall into two categories: the FB and the MLTR. FB’s are of the pump-and-dump variety, more of booty calls. You don’t typically hang out with them a long time nor sleep over at their place or let them crash at yours. Sponteneity is more of the norm as calling her up at 10PM one night for a quickie isn’t out of line at all. As such, FB’s are easy on your schedule because they can fit in almost anywhere and you can go long stretches without seeing them (probably up to two to three weeks).
MLTR’s on the other hand are a once-a-week minimum. They usually stay over and vice-versa and you will often spend most of the day/night with her. They’re more time consuming and also weekend eligible (i.e., you should be willing to give them a Friday or Saturday).
For purely logistical reasons, I would not keep more than two MLTR’s at a time. At one point I had 3 MLTR’s and 3 FB’s, and I literally spent twice as much time in other beds as I did my own.
I’ll break down a little scale as far as time-consuming goes, MLTR = 1GF, FB = 0.5GF. So for instance, 2 MLTR’s and 2 FB’s would = 3GF’s.
1GF = Easily manageable. Far more nights free than not. Be careful of scarcity complex and getting too attached to the one girl.
2GF = Still manageable. 2 MLTR’s + 1 FB is probably my favorite rotation as you still have quality time with quality women, have chances to still go out every week, but will never go more than 2-3 days without getting laid.
3GF = This is where it begins to get time consuming. You’re now spending just about every other night with a girl. If you work a lot or have a lot of hobbies, this is probably the most women you can handle at once.
4GF = You really must hate being home and/or alone. No time to go out, always tired. Spending a night by yourself actually begins to look like a luxury.
5GF = This begins to test your sanity. If you still force yourself to go out on weekends, you no longer have ANY nights free. Literally almost every night is a “date” or spent with one girl or another. I got close to this once and I literally had NO FREE TIME. Ever. After a week I freaked out and dropped a couple girls.
You hear about guys like Zan or DavidX who have juggled up 7 or 9 GF’s at a time, but in both cases, the girls all not only know ABOUT each other but knew each other. Having dealt with multiple girlfriends, I don’t buy this at all — unless they’re calling their FB’s “girlfriends” (which some guys do). Simply the amount of time necessary to manage all of the relationships and the fact that you only have so much sex drive. I mean, my sex drive can barely keep up with ONE girlfriend, but NINE? You’d be spending four hours a day fucking and the another four fighting about which girlfriends you were fucking and which ones you weren’t. Your life would fall apart.
I think 4GF is the highest you could reasonably go without having the girls meet each other and start double booking them. I don’t have nearly as much experience with introducing FB’s and MLTR’s and having them hang out. The basic idea is that you tell each girl that you will not tolerate any jealousy or drama from any single girl, that they must at least be courteous to the other women in your life and then just hope the women get along well. Even then, you have to do a lot of maintenance and arbitrating. So the massive amounts of time consumption still exists.
Really, there’s no getting around the time factor. Guys get off bragging or day-dreaming about having like six women at once, but once you actually start dating 5-6 women at a time, the massive amounts of time needed to manage those relationships defeats ANY satisfaction anyway. I mean, sure it’s cool to fuck five different girls in one week, it’s always nice to say you’ve done it. But the reality is at the end of that week I would have killed to have two nights by myself.
Here are some other general guidelines:
1) Try to find a day of the week for each of your MLTR’s. Mondays-Thursdays are great. Check your schedule against hers and see what works. Chicks actually really like this if you can arrange this and tell them, “OK, every Monday is our night together.” Save the FB’s for bootie calls later on in the week when you’re drunk and horny on a Saturday.
2) Obviously, to avoid double-booking, you’re going to have to plan out each week a week in advance. Guideline number one makes this much easier, but a lot of times these girls will invite you to shit or you’ll have new day two’s and shit set up. When you only have 1-2 girls, making plans isn’t a big deal, but when you’re juggling 4-5, planning a week in advance is MANDATORY. Find out the girl’s schedule and make plans. It’s never a bad idea.
3) Managing everyone’s expectations: if a girl wants you to hang out with her next Wednesday, but Wednesday is booked, just tell her “sorry, I got plans, but I’m free Thursday.” If it’s something specific and personal to her (like she’s in a performance or her friend out of town is coming, etc.), call your Wednesday girl and reschedule telling her something ambiguous. NEVER underestimate the power of ambiguity. Saying, “Oh something came up, can we hang out Thursday instead?” will rarely get a second thought. If the girl does say, “Oh, what are you doing?” that should send up a flag that she’s becoming emotionally involved and wants to know why you’re rearranging your time with her. I like taking the route of being honest, except use “my friend’ vaguely to describe what’s going on. For instance, in this example if the girl asked me why I was rescheduling, I would say, “My friend has a performance Wednesday, and they asked me to go to it.” It’s true. But it’s sexually ambiguous.
4) Dropping girls from the rotation requires little more than not calling them. Trust me, if you have enough girls you’ll find yourself forgetting to call your lesser favorites anyway.
5) If any two are bisexual or bi-curious, consider introducing two of them. Double book a night. Tell each one about the other one beforehand and get them to look forward to meeting and then see what happens. In my experience, the best threesome potential happens with a MLTR and an FB combo. Two MLTR’s will get pissy and jealous of each other, and two FB’s, there’s just not enough investment in you.
Night Game Model — Part 1
Over the months, I’ve consistently gotten requests to devise a “Night Game Model” similar to the Day Game Model here on this site. Guys have loved that model because it’s simple, concise, flexible and easy to implement. So everyone’s been wondering if there’s a possible way to implement something similar to night game.
Here’s my attempt to do so. Same deal: I have no idea how long this series will go, but I’m going to go until I get all pertinent information out, nothing more, nothing less.
This is how 90% of my sets in night game go, and all of the mental processes that I go through with each set. Just like the day game model, following this at this point has become redundant, I don’t even really think about it anymore.
Notes About Night Game
Before we begin, some things should be noted about night game:
- Night game is very random. Aside from logistics, crazy shit is happening at night: people are drunk, fights break out, everyone is with a lot of friends, people come and go, places get crowded, etc.
This has two effects on how we approach night game: one is we have to be far more flexible than day game, the other is that we have to be prepared to do more. Put succinctly, night game has a wider range of results (anything from a ONS to a girlfriend to a fist in your face), and therefore it has a wider range of skills and variables. Whereas day game, you really only need to be able to fluff, build some comfort and get a number, the skills required at night run the gamut.
- Night game venues vary widely in difficulty and type. Popular dance clubs, high-end clubs, dive bars, gay bars, strip clubs, lounge, hotel bars, college bars, etc., etc. — all of these environments operate slightly differently and therefore you’ll have to learn how to calibrate to your environment.
In general, the more energetic the environment (crazy lights, loud music, dancing, alcohol), the more energetic you need to be. The more laid back the environment, the more laid back you need to be. Also, play to your audience. You should act differently in a college bar as you do at an upscale night club. (This topic is a whole article unto itself).
- You have to deal with competition in night game. If you open a woman at the grocery store, chances are slim some other guy is going to walk by and try to fuck you up. But at night, you’ll get guys doing just that quite often.
Once again, this has two obvious effects: one is that you have to be prepared to deal with other guys, and two women are going to be a lot more jaded and have their guard up at night.
Pre-Screening
Now that we have that out of the way, you’re in a venue, there are tons of people there, what are you doing next?
Pre-screening sets is an important step that almost nobody talks about (because it goes completely against the classic three-second rule). When I get to a venue, I like to take a lap around the venue and check out what’s going on, what kind of people are there, how many hot girls are there, what the logistical situation is like and if there are any “easy pickens” to start out with.
You do this by looking at two things when you walk around: people’s logistics and people’s body languages, or what I like to call, “What’s their story?”
1) Logistics is easy. Hot girl with three guys = poor logistics. Three hot girls by themselves at the bar laughing a lot = good logistics. Large groups sitting down = hard set. Two girls dancing with each other having a good time = easy set.
2) “What’s their story?” takes a lot more skill. You need to be able to read body language and read people well (which is a vastly underrated skill). For instance, if I spot a three-set, two girls and a guy, watching them for 10 seconds can reveal a lot about them. Are either the girls “with” him? Are they blowing him off? Does he look chodey? Do they look like they’re having fun, or are they there because they feel like they have to?
Figuring this shit out beforehand can be absolutely huge if you open them and cold-read them (more on that later). For instance, if I observe a set for 15 seconds and then walk up and one minute into the interaction say, “you guys seem like you’ve been friends forever but don’t get to see each other often,” it’s not a shot in the dark. I’m saying it because they seem to really like each other but also seem a bit nervous/awkward around one another (you know that awkwardness you get when you hang out with an old friend you haven’t seen in years? Yeah… that). Anyway, you hit that nail on the head and bam, your value is through the roof.
More on cold-reading later.
Basically, what I do is after I check the specs for all of these things in each group of people, I make some decisions: which girls do I want to talk to? Which sets would be easy? Which would be hard? Which people seem interesting to me? Which women seem like they’d naturally be into me? I take all of these factors into account and then prioritize the sets I want to open. Generally, I’ll start with whichever set has the combination of best logistics/hottest girls/most inviting vibe and go down the list.
Quick note: to everyone who says, “But isn’t walking around a bar looking at everybody make you seem like an AFC? Shouldn’t you get into set right away so that EVERYONE knows you’re such a social, cool, alpha, pimpdaddy?”
I’ve never bought into this. Why? Because people really don’t give a shit, especially girls. Think back to the last night you were out and talking to a bunch of people — I mean, the last time you had a really great time with some friends (or in set) for a good hour or two. How many people do you notice walking around by themselves? If you even noticed any, did you care? Did you make a mental note: “OMG, that guy’s by himself, what a fuck chode!”
No, you probably assumed he was walking to the bathroom/bar/door or looking for someone.
No one cares. As long as you don’t sit there and stare like a goddamn creeper, it doesn’t matter.
I’ll be back with part two in a couple days going over opening, transitions, cold-reads and continuing to screen.
Here’s my attempt to do so. Same deal: I have no idea how long this series will go, but I’m going to go until I get all pertinent information out, nothing more, nothing less.
This is how 90% of my sets in night game go, and all of the mental processes that I go through with each set. Just like the day game model, following this at this point has become redundant, I don’t even really think about it anymore.
Notes About Night Game
Before we begin, some things should be noted about night game:
- Night game is very random. Aside from logistics, crazy shit is happening at night: people are drunk, fights break out, everyone is with a lot of friends, people come and go, places get crowded, etc.
This has two effects on how we approach night game: one is we have to be far more flexible than day game, the other is that we have to be prepared to do more. Put succinctly, night game has a wider range of results (anything from a ONS to a girlfriend to a fist in your face), and therefore it has a wider range of skills and variables. Whereas day game, you really only need to be able to fluff, build some comfort and get a number, the skills required at night run the gamut.
- Night game venues vary widely in difficulty and type. Popular dance clubs, high-end clubs, dive bars, gay bars, strip clubs, lounge, hotel bars, college bars, etc., etc. — all of these environments operate slightly differently and therefore you’ll have to learn how to calibrate to your environment.
In general, the more energetic the environment (crazy lights, loud music, dancing, alcohol), the more energetic you need to be. The more laid back the environment, the more laid back you need to be. Also, play to your audience. You should act differently in a college bar as you do at an upscale night club. (This topic is a whole article unto itself).
- You have to deal with competition in night game. If you open a woman at the grocery store, chances are slim some other guy is going to walk by and try to fuck you up. But at night, you’ll get guys doing just that quite often.
Once again, this has two obvious effects: one is that you have to be prepared to deal with other guys, and two women are going to be a lot more jaded and have their guard up at night.
Pre-Screening
Now that we have that out of the way, you’re in a venue, there are tons of people there, what are you doing next?
Pre-screening sets is an important step that almost nobody talks about (because it goes completely against the classic three-second rule). When I get to a venue, I like to take a lap around the venue and check out what’s going on, what kind of people are there, how many hot girls are there, what the logistical situation is like and if there are any “easy pickens” to start out with.
You do this by looking at two things when you walk around: people’s logistics and people’s body languages, or what I like to call, “What’s their story?”
1) Logistics is easy. Hot girl with three guys = poor logistics. Three hot girls by themselves at the bar laughing a lot = good logistics. Large groups sitting down = hard set. Two girls dancing with each other having a good time = easy set.
2) “What’s their story?” takes a lot more skill. You need to be able to read body language and read people well (which is a vastly underrated skill). For instance, if I spot a three-set, two girls and a guy, watching them for 10 seconds can reveal a lot about them. Are either the girls “with” him? Are they blowing him off? Does he look chodey? Do they look like they’re having fun, or are they there because they feel like they have to?
Figuring this shit out beforehand can be absolutely huge if you open them and cold-read them (more on that later). For instance, if I observe a set for 15 seconds and then walk up and one minute into the interaction say, “you guys seem like you’ve been friends forever but don’t get to see each other often,” it’s not a shot in the dark. I’m saying it because they seem to really like each other but also seem a bit nervous/awkward around one another (you know that awkwardness you get when you hang out with an old friend you haven’t seen in years? Yeah… that). Anyway, you hit that nail on the head and bam, your value is through the roof.
More on cold-reading later.
Basically, what I do is after I check the specs for all of these things in each group of people, I make some decisions: which girls do I want to talk to? Which sets would be easy? Which would be hard? Which people seem interesting to me? Which women seem like they’d naturally be into me? I take all of these factors into account and then prioritize the sets I want to open. Generally, I’ll start with whichever set has the combination of best logistics/hottest girls/most inviting vibe and go down the list.
Quick note: to everyone who says, “But isn’t walking around a bar looking at everybody make you seem like an AFC? Shouldn’t you get into set right away so that EVERYONE knows you’re such a social, cool, alpha, pimpdaddy?”
I’ve never bought into this. Why? Because people really don’t give a shit, especially girls. Think back to the last night you were out and talking to a bunch of people — I mean, the last time you had a really great time with some friends (or in set) for a good hour or two. How many people do you notice walking around by themselves? If you even noticed any, did you care? Did you make a mental note: “OMG, that guy’s by himself, what a fuck chode!”
No, you probably assumed he was walking to the bathroom/bar/door or looking for someone.
No one cares. As long as you don’t sit there and stare like a goddamn creeper, it doesn’t matter.
I’ll be back with part two in a couple days going over opening, transitions, cold-reads and continuing to screen.
Night Game Model Part 7— Logistics and Closing by Entropy
Welcome to the last installment of the Night Game Model. If you’ve been following everything up to this point, you’re opening, transitioning and cold-reading yourself into interesting threads, where you cycle teasing and comfort stories with ease, calibrating along the way, physically escalating and even making out with girls. Right? RIGHT?!?
Well congratulations, if you’re going for same night lays, that’s about 50% of the battle.
(If you don’t care about same night lays, that’s aout 80% of it, the rest is follow-up/phone game.)
Logistics is the other half. And if you aren’t prepared for it, logistics will FUCK YOU UP!
Check for good logistics EARLY: There are a handful of questions that you need to take care of pretty early in the set. Find out how your girl knows whoever she’s with. Find out their relationships (if she’s got family members with her, chances go way down). Find out where she lives and how she got there. Mentally note this and compare it to where you live and how you got there relative to the venue. It IS possible to get a girl to drive you to her place (or yours), but it’s not as likely. Basically, the ideal situation is for her to be out with a mixed group of people, not all of which she’s friends with and she lives close to you and/or the venue (or you live close to her and/or the venue). The worst-case-scenario is it’s her sister’s bachelorette party, her mom and two sisters are there, she lives in another city and engaged. You get the idea.
These questions (i.e., “How do you know your friends?” “Where do you live?” etc.) should be thrown out early but sporadically. It’s pretty easy to work them into your comfort game. Just ask, get a quick answer and keep moving on. You should have a pretty clear idea of the girl’s logistical situation within 10 minutes of talking to her. If you’ve got her isolated and have even made out with her, then you have NO excuse to find out everything you need to know about her logistical situation.
You MUST win over the friends: This is actually usually easier than it sounds. But it’s true. All it takes is one bitchy friend to ruin your entire night’s party plans (you know, the party in your pants). When I say, “win them over,” you don’t necessarily have to be the coolest guy on the planet when you talk to them (although that never hurts). They basically have to just get a good impression of you — like you enough to give the implicit “OK.” Typically, this is more of a matter of not fucking yourself up rather than actually winning anyone over. Guys are the easiest as well. All you have to do is be respectful to them, shake their hand, acknowledge them and they’re happy. If the guy is an orbiter, then she probably doesn’t respect his opinion anyway, so whatever.
If in the off-chance you do get a friend who’s being really bitchy, then you may need to engage her one on one and win her over. Just run straight up comfort game on them. Let them know that you’re a really nice guy and find out some about them. Tell them that you like their friend and tell them why. Be genuine and you’ll usually be set.
Plan an escape route: OK, so your girl is all over your shit. Her friends are cool with you. And her logistics are decent. It’s time to come up with an escape plan. Unfortunately, there’s no definite formula for this — it always changes based on the situation. Ideally, bringing her to your place if you have a car is ideal. But sometimes, she lives far away, or you live far away or she has a car too or you don’t have a car, etc. My only advice here is to do what is most practical — take the path with least resistance.
Having an excuse to bring her over helps sometimes as well, although I think guys overplay its usefulness. It’s really useful her friends are coming to and your wingmen is as well, the so-called “afterparty” excuse if you will. But typically, for one on one, she knows what’s up, so just saying something generic like, “I need to show you my fish,” or whatever the hell you have back home is excuse enough.
Number closing: If for whatever reason she has really bad logistics, her friend is cockblocking you or she has to go home or something, just go for the number close. The sooner you can figure this out, the better because you can move on to more sets. Another strategy that’s good to use is to build up 3-4 sets of girls, get them all interested, then try and pull the one with best logistics and take the numbers of the other ones.
Expect the unexpected: As I wrote in my post about logistics a few months ago, the number one rule of logistics is that they’re RANDOM. Shit happens. CRAZY shit happens actually, and 90% of the time it’s completely out of your control. Everything from your girl puking in the cab to someone getting shot in the club to her ex-boyfriend following you to her place, crazy shit happens in night game, so it’s best to remember to be flexible and go with things. At the end of the day, as with game in general, night game is a numbers game, and some times you just get very unlucky.
I will note though that the more attracted a girl is to you and the more connected she feels to you, the less and less logistical problems matter. I’ve had girls blow off their friends, buy me shots and pay for cabs because they were so into me. So I suppose the best way to beat logistics is to never have to worry about them.
Well congratulations, if you’re going for same night lays, that’s about 50% of the battle.
(If you don’t care about same night lays, that’s aout 80% of it, the rest is follow-up/phone game.)
Logistics is the other half. And if you aren’t prepared for it, logistics will FUCK YOU UP!
Check for good logistics EARLY: There are a handful of questions that you need to take care of pretty early in the set. Find out how your girl knows whoever she’s with. Find out their relationships (if she’s got family members with her, chances go way down). Find out where she lives and how she got there. Mentally note this and compare it to where you live and how you got there relative to the venue. It IS possible to get a girl to drive you to her place (or yours), but it’s not as likely. Basically, the ideal situation is for her to be out with a mixed group of people, not all of which she’s friends with and she lives close to you and/or the venue (or you live close to her and/or the venue). The worst-case-scenario is it’s her sister’s bachelorette party, her mom and two sisters are there, she lives in another city and engaged. You get the idea.
These questions (i.e., “How do you know your friends?” “Where do you live?” etc.) should be thrown out early but sporadically. It’s pretty easy to work them into your comfort game. Just ask, get a quick answer and keep moving on. You should have a pretty clear idea of the girl’s logistical situation within 10 minutes of talking to her. If you’ve got her isolated and have even made out with her, then you have NO excuse to find out everything you need to know about her logistical situation.
You MUST win over the friends: This is actually usually easier than it sounds. But it’s true. All it takes is one bitchy friend to ruin your entire night’s party plans (you know, the party in your pants). When I say, “win them over,” you don’t necessarily have to be the coolest guy on the planet when you talk to them (although that never hurts). They basically have to just get a good impression of you — like you enough to give the implicit “OK.” Typically, this is more of a matter of not fucking yourself up rather than actually winning anyone over. Guys are the easiest as well. All you have to do is be respectful to them, shake their hand, acknowledge them and they’re happy. If the guy is an orbiter, then she probably doesn’t respect his opinion anyway, so whatever.
If in the off-chance you do get a friend who’s being really bitchy, then you may need to engage her one on one and win her over. Just run straight up comfort game on them. Let them know that you’re a really nice guy and find out some about them. Tell them that you like their friend and tell them why. Be genuine and you’ll usually be set.
Plan an escape route: OK, so your girl is all over your shit. Her friends are cool with you. And her logistics are decent. It’s time to come up with an escape plan. Unfortunately, there’s no definite formula for this — it always changes based on the situation. Ideally, bringing her to your place if you have a car is ideal. But sometimes, she lives far away, or you live far away or she has a car too or you don’t have a car, etc. My only advice here is to do what is most practical — take the path with least resistance.
Having an excuse to bring her over helps sometimes as well, although I think guys overplay its usefulness. It’s really useful her friends are coming to and your wingmen is as well, the so-called “afterparty” excuse if you will. But typically, for one on one, she knows what’s up, so just saying something generic like, “I need to show you my fish,” or whatever the hell you have back home is excuse enough.
Number closing: If for whatever reason she has really bad logistics, her friend is cockblocking you or she has to go home or something, just go for the number close. The sooner you can figure this out, the better because you can move on to more sets. Another strategy that’s good to use is to build up 3-4 sets of girls, get them all interested, then try and pull the one with best logistics and take the numbers of the other ones.
Expect the unexpected: As I wrote in my post about logistics a few months ago, the number one rule of logistics is that they’re RANDOM. Shit happens. CRAZY shit happens actually, and 90% of the time it’s completely out of your control. Everything from your girl puking in the cab to someone getting shot in the club to her ex-boyfriend following you to her place, crazy shit happens in night game, so it’s best to remember to be flexible and go with things. At the end of the day, as with game in general, night game is a numbers game, and some times you just get very unlucky.
I will note though that the more attracted a girl is to you and the more connected she feels to you, the less and less logistical problems matter. I’ve had girls blow off their friends, buy me shots and pay for cabs because they were so into me. So I suppose the best way to beat logistics is to never have to worry about them.
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