Thursday, December 16, 2010

FR: SNL fuckup at CVS franco and JESSE Charger comments on sticking points

It was Saturday, around midnight I was coming from a party and went to local CVS/Walgreens to buy a marker.
I went in and was for a few minutes as I turn at the end of the aisle a girl with her PJ on makes sexual eye contact and I smile and she smiles back.
she was entering the aisle as I was turning so distance between each other was less than 3 feet away from personal space.She hold eye contact as I hold it as well and I smiled back. I at first didnt realize it until seconds later that I should have apparoched.
then as Im fighting with myself to talk with her and what to say or go direct or whatever stupidity that was keeping me.
I went towards the cashier to pay and she is with her cart at the aisle and she is looking at me from a far playing wiht her hair or IOIing.


it was 12:15 am.
I wait abit as Im looking for change or whatever and pay.
I go out and think what to do , and was texting myself as asking myself what to do in midst of uncertainty.

I felt I was now being creepy if I approached her as I'm outside the store, but it was clear at that moment that that type of IOI and sexual energy from her and me towards her at this time of night is looking for company aka sex.

I see her leave in her car and as I at the light she gets next to my car in her car,we get to the light and next to each other in our cars and its obvious that I should do something.
I get a text from a friend out of the blue and tell him whats going on, he LOL'd cause he never had that happen to him.
Anyways,
I didnt open nor approached , I hesitated and didnt know if I was creepying her out.

I know masculinity was what was going to take to make this work and waht she was waiting for.
next she turns and say fuck it,



Then she reepears next to me in her car, I didnt find courage to turn my head or what to do again we are at stop light already blocks away from the store.
then we drive near the motels section of miami and she gets in front of me and turns to right. then as I drive I she she turned and was waiting or had been waiting half a block.
Anywyas I was confused whether she thought I was following her or theres something wrong with my inner game or way of thinking when some girl opens that window to have sex or IOI's without my doing anything.




Afterwards I wanted to beat myself up cause I didnt do anything which was stupid of me cause this never happened to me.


Typical community advice poisons men's minds by saying we have to try hard to get women.When there can be situation where you dont have to do anythign but talk to her and pace and lead to sex.

I think it would have been awful calibration if i NEGGED the woman for looking at me sexually rather than use that energy of sex and escalate.

Still I would like to hear anyone would have done in this situation feel free to comment aby observations

thanks
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by Franco » Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:42 am

>Typical community advice poisons men's minds by saying we have to try hard to get women.When there >can be situation where you dont have to do anythign but talk to her and pace and lead to sex.

Exactly. What happened was a "dead approach invitation." What she was doing was giving you an approach invitation. When a woman gives an approach invitation you have a few seconds to respond. At that point instead of messing with your own brain thinking "what kind of technique" I can use on this girl you simply get rapport and open.

>I think it would have been awful calibration if i NEGGED the woman for looking at me sexually rather >than use that energy of sex and escalate.

Agree. If you neg a woman who is giving you an approach invitation you are doing a miscalibration. She is doing something positive, she is showing interest. Negging her on that is a mistake.

>Still I would like to hear anyone would have done in this situation feel free to comment aby observations
>thanks[/quote]

One can be busy with other stuff and not have the time to react on approach invitations. The best way of dealing with approach invitations is to either respond with rapport under seconds or not respond ad all and forget her. If you do not respond fast on approach invitation you have lost the chance but that does not need to become an obsession!Cheers, Franco
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Well how about just "hi"? Always works for me...


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Originally Posted by Sandee
I hesitated cause the night before I tried taking a girl I met to a Motel here in miami to have sex and she freaked out when I took her there, eventhough minutes before at the beach that night I was fingering and making out with her.
Weird or my miscalibration?

I think that this particular situation was because you pushed to fast, but without possibility of real close... The girl probably knew the sex was coming, but the way you approached the seduction may have been too pushy (not enought pulling).

Also what I'd suggest to you, in general, (and this might contradict a lot of other literature) is when you are under too much pressure, just let the opportunity pass and relax. You are just not ready at this specific time. The best think to do it to start from small talk with somebody with who you can communicate to avoid and to get used to pressure, so later you can do a normal approach.

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I wanted to edit the name of this post to
"FR:missed casual encounter for sex at latenight drugstrore"

I would have said hi,

I know this I fucked up , but I know its on and we are at a drugstore and she is horny...and we are both in cars so I never had this issue.

I'm sure I didnt need to makeout necesarily, but needed to subcommunicate sex is going to happen but not verbalize it and timebridge to share a late night dessert together and BOOM close..

in the past,pregame I pick-up a girl from a pharmacy and she was outside waiting , I offered her a ride cause it was late and bad neighbourhood.
she gave me a hesitant physical shit test and I acted cool.I was casual not wanting anything just chillin', minutes in the car I bought and invited her beer from the store, we cruised around for 20 minutes and I remember I AFC'd and I asked her where you want to go? and she said anywhere,I dont mind...I assumed and took her straight to motel and she fucked me hard and wanted more and more.That was one of the night I will never forget.
I never saw her again cause when a week later passed by , she was with a man.her BF or husband whatever.

I never had a chance to ask her for her phone.


I also had a woman whom I met and she gave me physical shit test before going up to her place,we both didnt have time for a date and just met her, I texted her to meetup and called her, I told her that "its too bad that we wont be able to see each other that we are both busy? " she then went horny sexual on the phone about her wanting to suck my cock...I just responded
"you are something arent you what am I going to do with you ? "
( in a deep sexual tone of voice ) I told her where she lives by and she told me, then I asked her
"how many minutes do you need to get ready?" she said 15, I said cool and hanged up.

I took a shower , I made sure to look sexy, got there called her...she wasnt that cute but she was ready to go by her vibe and on the phone.
she was stalling and I just spoke with a deep voice and noticed her congruence testing me non verbally,physical shit test ,
I just stared at her with eye contact with a sly sexy smile...and she invited me up....I was talking to her for abit about myself and as she opened the door to her appartment she got on her knees and wanted to suck on my dick, I unziped my jeans and she was sucking it like it was delicious candy.
we had sex and I remmember I made her squirt and she wanted anal, iwas partially leading but she was just out of control horny and I LOVED IT! We dirty talked and I aksed her if she wanted to cocks inside her and I used a dildo to DP her while I was inside her...she said it was amazing..
afterwards. I never saw her again.eventhough I exchanged emails her telling that we should do it again sometime...but she was supposed to move to midwest soon so we lost touch.

Last encounters like this when you asked about her afterwards or kindah seeking rapport....it make it look really needy and clingy.
The girl would get turned off I guess, So I dont do that.



Im surprised anyone hasnt posted any comments here,has this not ever happend to anyone? a casual encounter for sex ?

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#5 (permalink) 12-16-2010, 06:27 PM
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Sandee, I'm going to answer your first post.


Now that you're thinking about this girl in retrospect, it's obvious she was down for sex and she was giving you lots of huge, blatant IOIs and signals.


And you're kicking yourself that you did nothing to respond, playing it cold instead.


I think you had a mismatch in energies. She was in a very outward state, and you were in a very inward state, inside your head. You probably weren't smiling and thinking about an intellectual task at hand.


It would be like as if you were doing math problems and deep in thought, and then suddenly found yourself teleported into a dance club. You'd be thrown off, and freeze up.


It's best if when you're out you have that "inner smile" and checking out the chicks and horny and ready for anything and everything to go down.


But it's so rare and strange that girl is just ready to fuck like a female dog in heat, that we get lazy about being in an outward state.


So what's my advice to you ultimately in this case? My suggestion is that perhaps the problem occurred BEFORE you ever got to the CVS.


So is there anyway your state and mindset could have been different when you casually go out, so that when this opportunity arises, you're mentally ready to take advantage of it?

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