review gary broadsky how to be a player aka how to dominate women play the game.
he talks alot of having control of her identity her image of what you think about her..to have her investing into you.
this connected with topos post on readstack and
breakdown of california pimp frame control and escalation to getting her aroused in sexual state.
alessy taylor.
so you have to be proactive. intressting.
I text:
ME: I had a dream about you last night , but I cant tell you
HER: haha you are 2 funny (accepting the frame)
later
ME: YEah :P I mean if you were to imagine how Hot Wild and passionate that would be like...you wouldnt be able to stop thinking abou tit the whole day ;)
Topo talks about his basis of redstack
:
It is my belief that if people studied
#1 the TMM model and got an instructor to break it down
#2 Studied the California Pimp
#3 Studied Alexyss K Tylor
#4 Kept up on social psychology and all the studies about sub communication
#5 And tested it out in the field consistently (like using a routine stack)
People from whatever background could be bad ass at game.
So with that being said….
Here is my stack, with my notes on it so you can NOT try and copy me, but BUILD your own.
My current routine stack…
(well maybe not now because I am publishing it)
And explanations as to why it works…
Opener-
(at opener engage in touching, you don’t have to do it continuously, just begin it. For myself I just touch them on the arm and don’t escalate till I bait them into more comfort.
Direct
(in using direct, you need to carry it quickly into conversation, these openers won’t get you anywhere if you don’t jump threads right away.)
“Hey, you guys seem nice, are you friendly?”
“So where do all the cool people hang out?”
Opinion
“Hey guys, I have got to ask you, my friend Michelle and I were here (or some other place, any place public really) he other night and there were these two making out in the middle of the walk way… (light tap on the arm) No seriously listen (I qualify them during the opener to maintain their attention, this is important, because if you can control their state then you can capitalize on that massively)
What I she always like this?
No but really they were like in the middle of the walkway. I like totally don’t get how people think that is like ok.
(Change state to something more intimate)
You know like when I was dating my ex-girlfriend, she is a dancer, we would, like to be together at places, and sometimes but we had a booth or something.
(access if the state change in comfort hooked and jump thread, if not back to attraction state and continue with opener and attraction threads)
Like seriously next time I see that I am going to go up to the guy and girl and give them a condom or something.
After in the group, usually within 30 seconds if I haven’t hooked comfort yet.
So how do you guys all know each other?
That’s cool, cause I am from Hawaii and I am not used to how people socialize here. I mean I have been here for years, but… (this almost always get an opening to comfort)
But if not I continue…
(build another intimate state with a little bit of excitement)
Yeah like you can tell a lot about people n how they carry themselves. Like you know my friend Molly is this just beautiful girl, she is just the perfect mix of everything, but the way she carries herself just exudes this lack of confidence.
(here make your state more quiet, from the heart… as if they can see it in your eyes)
And then you’ll know somebody that is not made up at all, not too much make-up and they’re just themselves, and they radiate.
You can keep going with but you can usually jump from there, but if you do want to continue….
Like I when I walked by you guys, just out of the corner of my eye I caught you guys and I kind of caught that vibe.
You know how you just kind of get that from people?
Transitioning
(here is the key to a transition, they should be done smoothly, you stack should script that, like everything you say should bait them further into your stack. At this point I have a lot of stuff going on. I have I am from Hawaii (get a reaction), I have DHVs of hanging out with my friends who are women. I have an ex that is a dancer. I have intuition about people that notices the ‘true beauty’ of people, and a slight cold read on them. So I can transition and build in any of those ways. So how do I want the night to go… am I looking for and SNL, do I want to go for a Day 2, Do I want a fuck buddy, do I want to try and find a girl that I can just have fun with and keep me company, or maybe I am thinking about settling down and want to find a girl I really like.
This is perhaps the most important part of HOW your game is played right here.
Right here, you should have attraction and slipping into comfort. But one thing Sinn brought to the community is that they all interact with each other. Attraction weaves through Comfort, and it even makes it into Seduction. They are cyclical, they are all prominent enough to be their own thing, but they all work with each other many times all three at once.)
So here is my qualification
(also at this point you should have social isolation within the group, if not it would not be impolite to isolate her)
“Hey you know what, you guys are cool, I can tell form just…
So what do you do when you’re not hanging out at (name venue)?”
Answer doesn’t matter,
“Wow, really. That’s actually really cool, my friend Ishtar does (name their answer) and he is like the most… together person I know. Like I am a Photographer, Like I have a cool job, and I get to travel all over the place, but Ishtar has got something, you know, something that I want. He’s like so grounded with himself.”
Ok, here is the thing; you don’t have to say you’re a photographer.
I have a job and skill that is normally ‘socially’ cooler than most people’s jobs.
The reason why I bring them up in their occupation is because it helps align my comfort. Then they are framed to play to me. Right now very lightly, but later it gets really big. Kind of like, what I do with my life is really beautiful and passionate, I will give you a taste of it, so you can se how beautiful it is. So now you see how important it is for me to do what I do, so you have to help me maintain it. So it will develop a Harem or Servant Comfort. See all that to explain, what a frame does. In fact you could incorporate that all into a cold read too to give them more identity with it.
So let’s say you have a job that is ‘socially’ uncooler than most people’s jobs. You can transition in many ways. But it is not the job that defines the interaction. Your job is not your identity, notice I don’t’ talk about my job I talk about my values. With that in mind here is an example if I were to get somebody who had a ‘socially’ cooler job.
“Wow, really that is amazing, you know when I was a boy I used to dream about that. (or let’s say is a female exclusive job, you should go into a similar story about how when you were young your friend, sister, mom, aunt dreamt of that of was that) Then you need to manufacture a story about it.
Transition into so when you were young did you always know how this was going to be?
For story telling, that is a whole art in itself.
And a massive tool for comfort.
But we will leave it there for now.
A stack that emulates this will easily get you into heavy comfort.
If I can get a girl to go this far into my stack about (10mins-15mins) I can pretty much tell where I am with her. I can tell if she is closable.
So there it is. There is actually more on comfort that I have to say, but there is only so much that I can write for the night.
Word
Alexyss K Tylor is a fucking Genius!
I know I have to say it again and again, but this lady knows her stuff.
I watch her on youtube and get virile AND pumped LIKE a GOD of VIGINA POWER!
Man she is a Genius!
People think I am joking, but she knows her shit.
As she has selfproclaimed
She has a PHD in getting fucked and sucked and used and ABUSED!
Check her out!
If you'e not causing a woman to make a TV show dedicated to the Vagina Powers you're not a PUA!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=N391gDkHcrE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JdGJxI6LrX4
http://youtube.com/watch?v=z5tNTZ5WE0U
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8Y3HF0BYtbk
Learn the POWER of the PENIS and the SPIRITUALITY of the SPERM!
Posted by El Topo at 2:02 AM
Guys this is quite possibly the most impactive product that you can get!
And it is Newly Revised to make it easier to learn.
Here's what it is,
You give me a short synopsis of your life, and I turn it into 90 Plus Mins of customized material for you, that takes you from Opening all the way into Deep Comfort.
It utilizes the idea of framing, defining the identity and interaction you have with whoever you're talking to.
I believe it is the most efficient way to game. This is how the Dallas Crew of PUAs (Sinn Captain Jack, Shaft and Myself) would be able to get those 20min to 4 hour Lays.
If you are interested in reading about some of the methods in how I translate your life into solid material check out these blog posts.
theREDstack Post 1
theREDstack Post 2
theREDstack Post 3
The great thing about having a stack is that you don't have to think, you can go into a set and tell the story of your life, from the opener. Go out and game with better success than using canned material that has nothing to do with you.
The process is easy, I send you some information to fill out for me to build your profile and after you're done with that, give me about 10 days to build it. I send it to you in an email and you're set to go.
theREDstack & New Podcast with Doc and Saffron
Hey Guys,
Here is a pretty funny Podcast with the dudes from Practical Pick Up.
Doc Holiday and Saffron!
If you don't read their blogs you should. Entropy is in one with Sinn, and Entropy and I were way too drunk to record anything in Detroit, but there will be an NEXT TIME!
Go HERE for the Podcast!
Hopefully you guys like the face lift to my blog, Thanks to Doc Holiday. There will be more to come with a reviews page and some other links to LRs and More Popular Writings.
I wrote this article last week, let me know what you think...
Also there will be Text Game Part 3 and some more of the Comfort Stuff I wrote about a few week ago coming up!
To all in North Carolina... see you there in a few days!
ET
theREDstack
Building Routines from your Life
For the past 9 months I have developed a pretty popular product I in the community. I call it theREDstack. Whenever I go to lairs I give demonstrations of how to build them for yourself, which is kind of how this article came about. Now there is a lot to it, but one of the most impressive things that people comment to me on is how I turn mundane stories from people’s lives into something that can be used in game.
What theREDstack is basically you give me some information from your life, I will come up with a series of routines that will build you Attraction, Seduction in tandem, while making is all flow smoothly together. Usually about 90mins of material. You will hardly need any other routines after you have it.
Now mainly I write these articles because, although I took a Boot Camp, most of my game knowledge came from people showing me their ideas and adding a little creativity and application to it. The community taught me. Of course that was the community of Captain Jack, Sinn, Future, Shaft and Fidelio, but nonetheless I learned for free after my BC. So hopefully you can take away something from this and down the road show me a thing or two!
So if you like what you are reading please email me eltopoPUA@gmail.com and find more information like this on my Blog- http://the-red-mole.blogspot.com/
So let’s start with what makes a DHV Story (Demonstration of Higher Value).
What a DHV Story is based on are the Attraction Switches.
There are a ton of them, and they should probably be re named but let’s take some of the ones I like to implement while working with people.
-Understanding Women’s Emotions
-Identity
-Lifestyle
-Pre-selected by Women
-Being Dominant
-Wiling to Emote
-Protector of Loved Ones
These are just a few of the 15 or so of the Attraction Switches kicking around and I know those are different than the one’s normally mentioned but I really want to shed more light of things rather than say the same thing over and over again.
Now let’s see if we can take normal and average stuff from someone’s life and turn it into something that can work as a DHV.
How we will do this, is I will take common things from what people tell me, usually thinking they are DLVs (Demonstrations of Lower Value) and turn them into powerful stories.
Hopefully you will be able to come up with some of your own, after reading this.
-When I was growing up I had a very strong mother, that juggled cleaning the house, taking care of us kids but also taught us to cultivate our individual passions.
- My first real friend was a girl down the street, when I started school my new friends made fun of me for being friends with a girl and I never talked to her again.
-I work as a teacher in middle school.
- When I was young I remember how my dad, who only had me on the weekends, would work on cars. I would watch him, but it always made me sad that he would not actively show me. I think I actually annoyed him.
- I would walk my little sister to school everyday after she came home crying because some of the boys made fun of her.
- The first time I felt like I was grown up, was when my father and I got stuck on a fishing boat and I actually helped us get back to shore. He treated me differently after that and it was the first time I thought he was proud of me.
- I get insecure around women I am attracted to.
-My mom passed away when I was 18, and it is the single most experience that changed my life.
- My friend Ralph was separating from his wife and I helped them reconcile and they are still married to this day.
So those are typical things I hear during presentations and typical things that I get in people’s profiles when creating theREDstack for them. Here is a simple story that will Frames, Add Value and Lead the target in the right direction. And it will be based on the information above.
‘One of the things that I really love about meeting people is what you grab from people’s first impressions. For instance, when I was growing up I was pretty much raised by my mother, and so I have always had close friends that were women.
But one of the things that I can remember was that my first friend was a girl from down the street, and my dad left when I was 3 years old so my mother used to work quite a bit. So I would stay at one of the neighbor’s houses. They had a girl my age and pretty much from the age of 3 to 5 we were best friends.
It was such a different interaction in thinking back on it.
Mainly because the dynamic was different than how I ended up interacting with my guy friends, but we were so innocent too. There was nothing to fear because we had nothing to influence us.
And actually, when I started school things became totally screwed up. Right away, the guys in my kindergarten class made fun of me for being friends with a girl, and I never talked to her again. She tried to talk to me, but eventually gave up. And it will always be one of those things that I feel guilty about.
But, you know it is like the same thing now as it was then. The way men and women communicate in that same sort of way. Like things that happen between me and my girlfriends are always fun, but they are like a part of our own world. When you are with guys there is always social pressure that tries to influence you.
Like take sex for example, in how guys view it and how women view it. I always thought I was weird around my guy friends when I would bring this up but women always seemed to think this way. Women like to experience between people, and guys really only seem to care about getting off.
For me, I always hate bringing this up, but around really attractive people I can get intimidated. And to be honest you’re a really good looking woman, and I shouldn’t be afraid to say that, but those are the things that I think intimidate guys to act the way they do. I mean one thing I know from growing up with a sister and a mother around me all the time is women, like to be lead, but at the same time it has got to be done right.
Like what is something that you hated about the last guy you dated?
(she answers, doesn’t matter what she say you just continue on)
No, the thing about it is that guys don’t know how to be men anymore. Guys are pussies. Like I remember when I was 11 my sister, who is 2 years younger that me, got picked on by some guys on the way home from school. And I remember it made me so mad, that everyday for the rest of the year I walked with her hoping to see those guys. I never did see em, but that is what is missing from guys these days. They don’t get how to communicate with women. They don’t even realize that sometimes women want to be lead, and that being comfortable is more important than being pressured into anything. They don’t get that a simple action or bit of caring can change everything.
I bet you like to be totally wild, and you intimidate most guys who meet you, and when you date them, but if they allow you to be comfortable with them you can totally let loose, right?
So if you don’t mind me asking what do you do for work?
(she answers)
Wow, cool, I am a teacher.
You know that makes me think about how I came about doing what I do. I mean there are things that you do when you are a kid that kind of shape who and how you’re going to be right.
Like my dad would have me on the weekends and every chance I got I wanted to spend with him. I can remember sitting in the garage and watching him work on his car. That is pretty much all he did all the time.
I always wanted him to show me, but for the most part he was mostly annoyed by me being there. He wouldn’t let me mess up his tools so I would make up my own and sit there and teach myself how to fix cars.
I didn’t really know what I was doing but I would do it, just to imagine myself doing it.
And from that moment on I always knew I would be doing something where I would be helping people.
But like I said, it is part the job and part of how you grew up. Like because you work as a (X) you actually have a lot of the same things going on as me. Like my job has always made me really passionate and tenacious and with you because you work in (X) I can see the same things, but you actually do those things outside of your work. Like you are totally a girl that can step over the line, but like I said earlier, you just have to feel comfortable with someone first before you can let that wild side out.
It is actually a weird thing though, because there are 2 events in my life that really changed me. It is just like when you are a little kid and you could decide to go in one direction and the path you choose really defines a lot. Like I was saying with my first friend who was a girl. I will feel guilty about that anytime I think about it.
But there was this one time when I was with my father, and like I said I always wanted his attention and never felt like I got it. And when I was 16 we were fishing and we didn’t get back to shore before the sun went down. To make a long story short we both worked together to get back to shore. I could tell that it was one of the first times my dad was actually scared. And when we got back to shore I realized that, at that point he actually considered that I was grown up.
That moment changed my whole perspective and direction on things.
And then 2 years later my mother actually passed away.
It was one of those things that I will never forget. It changed me in so many ways, but one of the things it changed most about me was that, you need to live life in the moment and live it completely.
Sometimes you need to give your love to everyone, and other times you just need to have fun and not care about being careless.
Let me ask you something, you look like someone who could use a break, outside of all the bullshit. When was the last time you did something that truly defined you. Like I mean something totally crazy?
See that is the thing that is missing from peoples lives. I mean my best friend from childhood is my buddy Ralph. And him and his wife were having issues, and don’t get me wrong I would love to have my buddy around me at all times, drinking beer and watching sports, but he was screwing up a good thing. It was like they had all the relationship stuff down but no spontaneity. And that is something that all people want and need, especially women, but nobody will every really ask for.
And it was funny, but just that little bit, that little bit of surprise and romance where his wife needed to be swept of her feet and be taken to feel like a women, was all that was missing.
I mean I hate to bring this up, when I was just saying that your face kind of lit up… you’re sexually frustrated.'
To keep this short I don’t want to get into all the specific Frames happening here, but this is not just conversation. It is very structured, balancing emotion, Attraction and Introducing and defining Sexuality for them. When you think about it this is about 5-10 mins of material and in that short amount of time you can lead the conversation in a tactical direction.
And also you can have it from your life.
If you are interested in knowing about anymore of this stuff, hit me up. And hit me up about anything eltopoPUA@gmail.com
Or read more on my blog
my Blog- http://the-red-mole.blogspot.com/
Thanks
ET
theREDstack Part 2
The other night I sent out a post on my Podcast list (sign up on the upper right hand corner of my blog. Sing up I will be putting out another promotion out there this weekend!).
(Also make sure you scroll down later to take a look at the Lesson I included in this!)
It was announcing that I am about starting to take orders again for theREDstack!
It has actually been unadvertised for the past 3 and a half months.
But here is the thing with it, Fidelio and I are not quite done to the changes we have made. theREDstack got Immediate results for students with that Product and we want to get even better Results with the New Version.
The new stacks are very heavy on Attraction, but using the new ideas of Attraction, It was utilized in the original stacks but now it is thoroughly explained, with more uses of it making it more prominent.
Since I started teaching theREDstack Seminar along with new developments in game some awesome evolutions have taken place. And I will give some examples of this later in the post.
But the main things was that in theREDstack Seminar I build everyone who attends a basic “Attraction Stack”. An Attraction Stack basically gets you from opening into Heavy Rapport, and it begins your Framing, which I think is the most effective part of game.
Now some of the New Ideas in Terms of Attraction don’t use the older models as Attraction being a series of Steps or Routines. How I view Attraction is that it is an Attitude that only opens a door to the use of framing, other emotional reactions, and things like Subpersonalities. Once myself and some of the other Dallas guys started using Attraction in this way, we got way more efficient and consistent results.
When I started writing stacks, I used attraction in this way, and some found it confusing…but those that were able to make use of it got insane results. I have written over 70 of these and within a week 23 people (that I know of ) got SNLs.. That is Insane!
People don’t get those results from taking a Boot Camp. And not everybody wanted their stack to be geared towards SNLs. Remember thery are Custom to your life and your goals in Game.
So here is what I talked about in the email,
I had said that in the past 3 Lair Talks I have done in June (Boston, Detroit, and Charlotte) I had multiple guys tell me they would do anything to do a Boot Camp of a Stack Seminar but they didn’t have the money.
And it sucks to turn down a guy who has ambition but can’t afford the price.
So I decided for July I was going to offer a Shortened Version of the updated REDstack for a discounted price. Normally it is $750 and about 30 pages long, usually carrying you 90mins Plus in set. I have committed that I will only take 10 orders and in the past 30 hours I have sold 5.
You can sign up for them HERE and I will get in contact with you about them once you have signed up!
Now in August My new stacks will be ready and the price will be back up at $750. Yes, those stack will be longer and more thorough, mainly because I need to be fair to my past and future clients.
But this will be a great opportunity for those who have a little less to invest get something that has IMMEDIATE results and at a more affordable price.
Here is an Example of what I got in the last week where I implement parts of my New Stack to a Story a client gave me to look over.
Again if you are interested in getting in on the before they are sold out, Click Here!
They will sell out in the next few days!
Q and A
El Topo,
Using what you gave me from the stack info online I took this story from an Art Show I was featured at.
Can you tell me if I am going in the right direction or not?
I believe that what I created here is what you go for in your stacks. It is a DHV I never knew how to say until I read your stuff, let me know if I am on the right track.
Thanks in advanced,
T-Bone PUA
Here it is-
"It's funny you say that because in my experience often the most important moments in your life aren't what you think they're going to be.
For instance, I wrote this have always been an artist, doing paintings, right?
I don't know if you've ever heard that White Stripes song "Little Room," but he talks about the excitement of sitting in your tiny room, and you're working on something that you just know is great, you know it's really going to blow people's hair back and how magnificent that feeling is. Well, I always felt that way when I would begin painting something in my little room and this time it turned into this big thing.
And the first showing of it was -- God, it was massive. It was in New York and basically the studio took over Tribeca with all the commotion and after party.
But the thing is... my family is really fragmented. My parents had a really angry divorce that -- well, truth is I think they were both the love of each other's lives and even though the couldn't stay married they probably they never really moved from that relationship. So my parents can't really be in the same room together. And my brother and dad hadn't talked for like 9 years at the point. Couldn't invite family friends without my family feeling burned. And I was dating around in LA but nothing serious -- no one I wanted to fly to New York with me and share this major moment.
So the night comes and I'm in this hotel room overlooking Central Park in this city that nearly ruined me just a few years before. And I put on this suit -- I was so stressed about what to wear I found this cranky old tailor who actually used to make suits for Frank Sinatra and have him make me one. So I put the suit on and, well, it's perfect. Perfect suit. Perfect hotel. Perfect, perfect, perfect... so why am I feeling so weird?
So I end up going to the Showing of my Painting with my two Managers and my lawyer. They're amazing people -- they would each kill for me and actually have, in their way. But I was like, who am I really sharing this with? You know, my dad, when I would get my report card -- and in elementary school they don't give you As and Cs but things like "demonstrates skill" or "needs improvement." So my dad had this ritual like where we'd read through the report card and he's just read them off like, "class participation... DEMONSTRATES SKILL!" and so on. And that would be our joke for years to come whenever I did something well. So I really missed him not being there to look over at me and say, "DEMONSTRATES SKILL!" during that night.
You know, when you create something from yourself, and other or guests people look at it, see it experience it, and then they look at YOU and don't see what's on the canvas -- it's weird, because it's YOU up there, but no one sees you. All that stuff you thought up in your little room, well, there it is! They see the colors and the flow and interpret it all but they don't see you in your little room, right? So I looked at the who was next to me... empty ... No real family, no real friends... And there I am in my perfect suit on this perfect night and I was like, "Can we just get this over with?"
It's funny, though, amidst all that there was this one thing that happened. You know there was a lot of international press there the other artists. And, you know, no one really knows what I looked like. But somehow this girl -- young, maybe 24, great energy, great style, from some German Radio station or something comes over and knows who I am and does this small interview with me. And we finish it up and then after she turns her recorder off we have this... moment. Like a look passes between us. And do you know -- I know that you do -- but you know how there are certain *looks* you share with someone that can carry the full charge and intensity of, say, a 6 month relationship? It was one of those. Like when you're both really seeing the other person. And it happened as we were kind of walking away from each other. So after the movie I'm looking around for her to... I don't know what for. I guess I really just needed some kind of connection that night. But I was never able to find her. Maybe she had to go file her story. Who knows. But I didn't know then what I know now -- that there are moments, just seconds, sometimes, where you have the opportunity to magnify something with someone. And if you don't take it, you will never have that again. I'm not saying you'll be lonely for ever, but those exact circumstances -- that person, that lighting, that situation, that willingness, that intensity -- will never present itself exactly the same way again. And if you walk away from it you are walking away from it for good. Period. Which is kind of heartbreaking. But also very cool. For instance... you and me, here, talking... "
Hey T-BonePUA,
Sorry for getting back to you so late, but here is what I get from this story.
I think that you get the story telling part of this all. It is actually a pretty good NLP style thread but we are missing some of the FRAMES and Cycling and Maintaining Attraction in the story.
Very good emotional flow, but nothing is pushing and pulling back on the listener, nor Defining them. So you need add some structural technique in it.
I hope this helps!
ET
Here are some frames you want to fit in your stories-
- Spontaneity
- Sexually Aggressive
- Being a Leader
- Takes Risks
- Non-Judgmental
There are more, but right now, you have a great story but no frames taking advantage of it all.
So pretty much all of the story can stay the same. You need 3 things to it.
-You need a beginning description of it(define the frame), which you have but you need to link it to them more.
-You need to use check ins and qualification to have them build more interest
-You need to define the ending a bit better (again you do this, but you can make all those emotions a bit more sexual). At the end the initial frame definition should have way more meaning by the story taking place, and the ending definition.
So let me give you a few examples of what I mean.
The story can start off by leading them with some sort of qualification, that will inspire a story in order to make that qualifier make more sense.
So you can ask or tell one of these
1-Let me ask you this, when did you last meet someone that changed your complete perspective on things?
2- I was wondering, you seem like someone who is close with their family?
3- When was the last time you let something slip through your fingers?
4- I can tell you are someone who has the best stuff happen to you when you go for what's in front of you.
Then based off of their reaction, you lead in to the story. You then need to say what the story is about. In this you need to define the frame you want before going into it. Then the story is just to give the frame emotional identity. Then afterwards you redefine that frame. So based on the qualifier you need to transition (you do this well, but I would do it this way).
for the first question you could say something like this after she answers.
'I mean that is one of the most important things for me, is when you meet someone you need to live for that moment. Actually it makes me think of this White Strips song....'
For the second one you could say...
'That is what I figured, I knew when I met you, you had that warm heart to that wild persona you have too. I mean I have always had kind of a refracted family. And it made me such an internal person. I mean it is almost like I still have my friends that are beautiful people and I consider them my family. But that is something that brings the best out of me, that side which can disappear into myself and that other side that loves to connect. And actually I think you are the same in a way. (she can acknowledge or not) You know that reminds me of this White Stripes song...'
For the third...
'See I have always been someone who has been spontaneous, but it can be a double edged sword.
Like with you there are two sides of you too. I bet your best moments are when you do step over the edge, and sometimes you slip but it can be worth it in the end.
There is this song by the White Stripes...'
For the fourth...
'For me I had to learn to actually be that way. I was not always someone who would go for stuff right off the bat. I think that is how I started writing... but that is how I can pick out people with that sort of crazy mentality to know when to jump, because I have to be around those people to get anywhere...hahahaha. But this is actually a funny story, you know that White Stripes song....'
So also you need some check-ins, to engage them more. This is a Juggler thing. And super effective. This is only one tool to Cycle the Attraction, but remember Attraction is just there to open the door for you, it is not really leading much, it is Baiting!
For instance, when you bring up the song 'little room', that is great but make it interactive.
So you could say something like, 'you know when you're a little kid and you have music that makes things, like what is one of those songs that brings you right back to childhood?'
After she answers then you can continue on.
The reason for this is because you need for them to emotionally interact in your experience as much as possible.
And the story is a bit long, but if you are in comfort with someone it shouldn't be a problem in terms of what logistics. You say you wouldn't talk to anyone at clubs about this, but do you only pick up in clubs? And you could say all this in a club, you would just have to keep maintaining attraction throughout it. We can talk about this over the phone.
But the meat of the story is good, but you just need it to have their emotions hook to the frames.
Now the frames at the end right now are that 'we are meeting now and we can't pass it up'. That is great but they could be so much more. Remember, if you start out with a frame then after they get lost in the story they can define the frame at the end of it.
So you can say something like...
'Like meeting you right now...but don't get any ideas, your wild side might be too much for me.'
'You know one of the things with you, is I don't meet people like this, even in a club. There is so much to a person that you get off when you first meet them. Like right now with you, I can tell so much about you, it is just when egos get in the way we see so many other things. I mean you have this totally cute side to you, but I bet that gets you out of more trouble than people give you credit for.'
'And so we my whole thing is when someone comes my way and I know they are someone I would like to meet, I go out of my way to make that happen. And with you there is so much more than what people know you for. I bet you intimidate most people, like I bet your last boyfriend you held back on him, right?'
Hope that Helps
ET
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El Topo's Smooth Transitions to Comfort
So I am about to head up to Detroit for a Lair Talk and Workshop with Entropy from Boston.
Should be an awesome weekend, and should be a learning experience all around.
Doc, Saffron, Entropy and Myself are all going to trade One on One’s with each other.
And form now on anyone that I work with closely we will do the same thing.
In any case, there are also some new podcast coming out and some audio LRs (don’t let that fool you, it is more like us interviewing each other about certain LRs we have had).
But I wanted to write this mainly because my Gaming Towards a Life Style and My Text Message breakdown Posts have been popular.
This will shed some light on both of those topics as well as shed light on topics that are often ignored in the community.
So what made theREDstack such a popular product was that there is so little
information out there on comfort game.
When someone is new to the community or they take their first Boot Camp they will often say that they Have no Attraction Game, but once they are talking to a girl they are fine (assumed Comfort). But once they work on Attraction and get that down, Comfort then loses its familiarity.
Mainly because it has no structure.
But again let me know what you think,
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If you are like MMAPUA and don’t want to read my ramblings on Theory then skip to the part listed as EXAMPLE way down at the bottom.
On Mon I will post the rest of this on the puasanctuary.com/forum and the Lounge too.
But in this post I will show you how to establish Frames that smoothly lead you into Comfort.
So when we get to the Comfort Game there was very little ever written on it or taught in general about it.
Initially it was broken down into 3 parts, C1, C2 and C3.
I think that these were a good way to simplify things but even the breakdown of Attraction in this same way neglects a lot of the interactions.
Things like A1, A2 and A3 are generally consistent in interactions, but there is a lot more to it and a lot less than what is normally sold.
Attraction Game sells and feels good at first, but it really has very little to do with getting to know someone let alone sleeping with them, and if you’re into the normal disturbing interactions I work towards it is useless.
So the person that helped me understand Comfort the best is the genius Captain Jack.
What he did was cut out DHVs and start to use Frames. Also what I saw him to and what Shaft does was layer a rhythm of emotions and frames.
CJ would actually use his dossal style of Attraction just enough to begin the Rhythm of his framing.
So before I breakdown some examples, let’s go over a few things.
1-Why Comfort is important?
Comfort is not babysitting or just gaining rapport. It is not just time bridging and changing locations. It is not telling heart melters or even emotionally moving someone. It is not just framing someone, or eliciting a subpersonality…it is all those things and more. It is how you place them all together.
It is getting someone into Rapport (on an equal level to you, no need to gain more dominance, but rather maintain it) and moving the interaction where you want it to go.
The reason why it is important is because you can have your most amount of influence here. You can actually define your relationship to your target here, and that is what this thing called game is really all about.
2- What is Layering emotions and Frames?
What I saw CJ do, then Shaft do and myself do, was simple take the same idea of multi threading but instead use Frames and different emotional eliciting stories to have the Frames gain more validity and momentum.
So CJ might give off some fun sexual frame, and then transition immediately into a story about his life that brought out emotion (aka a Heart Melter)
An example would be Strawberry Field into the Electric Bill story.
I will give more examples later.
3- What are Subpersonalities and Why are they important?
Subpersonalities are one way of saying that people have dynamics within themselves that are consistent. Like everybody has a part of them that can go totally out of control, everyone has a part of them that can be angry, everyone has a part to them that likes o be innocent and again, if you’re me, everyone has a side to them that likes to have their sexual creativity pushed to their limits.
Sometimes they are referred to as roles.
Now the reason why they’re important is because they help build compliance in a frame you’re trying to instill in someone.
What is mean is that if you are telling a girl that she is a girl that doesn’t judge you want her to believe it. So if you can bring that out with a part of her personality for her to immediately act upon then you have not only built a belief in her that, that side of her exists, but also you have gotten her to exercise that muscle of compliance towards that action, and if you’re really good you can then define that action as some other frame you’re going for.
Again, I will give an example of all this a bit later.
4- How do I manage Comfort?
This is something that people always ask me. Actually they ask me, what if you don’t get into comfort that quick. Well you can achieve rapport right away, but you can’t necessarily hold it. Every set it different but you will always need to do what we call CYCLE Attraction.
Attraction is your tool to open up window so that you can go further in Set.
So you can use it to transition in Comfort, you can use it to introduce a Frame, you can use it to work your logistics, you can use it to bust through LMR. It is the main tool in the Kung Fu Penis.
But in going for Rapport as quickly as possible and keeping it moving in the direction you want it to go, you have to manage it. So you have to use Attraction to make it move in the right direction.
So now think of Attraction like an Attitude rather than a series of steps.
Attraction is what you use to maintain comfort.
And again I will include examples of how to make this work below.
So before we get to the examples let’s go over briefly how loose Comfort was laid out before.
C1 was to Isolate. That is true but there wasn’t nearly as much of a structure to it than there was laid out for attraction, which is such a small interaction of game (considering a timeline, Comfort was always the most predominant area).
C2 was to Possibly Kiss and to set up the Time Bridge.
This is true too but you don’t need to Time Bridge all the time, and you can Kiss earlier too. I think Kissing in the Venue you meet them at while working quick game sets off more ASD than anything.
C3 was the Day 2. Day 2s are good for a while I was on a steak that I never did them, but sometimes you just got to. But again there was a lack of real structure to them.
And don’t get me started on the Seduction Part. There is even less information on that, and I am not even sure why… cause I thought that was the end goal in all of this.
I thought that this was all about getting laid and although I know the founders in all of this did get laid, it was just that none of this was ever broken down in a way that could work for most guys. But the Seduction Phase is definitely something that people like myself, Sinn, CJ, and pretty much everyone we work with can breakdown.
So in order to give this some structure, let’s say I am coaching a guy on Routines that is a Computer Programmer that is from a Family where he is the Only Child, and lives in Chicago, but is from a small town in Indiana and didn’t move to a big city until after college. The guy I am coaching has a hobby of Reading Self Help Books.
Now all the guys need to do is have some balls and is willing to open and gain dominance in the set. What to say, I can post about, but all the Body Language, Tonality, Expressions, and How you interact in set I can’t really write about…for now at least.
So here is the stack I would give him…
EXAMPLE
(I have broken it up into Parts so That is will be easier to Breakdown later)
From Opener
PART 1-
Hey guys, do you think that people kissing in a bar is something that totally normal or kind of weird?
(they answer)
Well, it is crazy because the other night I was with my friend Nancy and we saw these two totally getting down like in the hallway to the bathroom. I mean even the bouncers were afraid to break em up.
Like I was at the point where I was ready to hand em the keys to my car and the condom in my pocket.
But seriously when I was with my ex we would be intimate but we never wanted to show off, we would actually be somewhere out of someone’s view.
Transition with
So how do you guys know each other?
(they answer, doesn’t matter what they say)
Really?
That is interesting because I was just reading in this book about people’s reactions to questions and it was saying how at your first impression with someone that actually can tell you more about someone than what they tell you 5 mins after you meet them. I mean I was an only child so I have always been really good at getting what I want.
Like with you I can tell that you lead the group, and how you interact with people you’re the one that will actually pave the way for you friends.
And you, I don’t know, but you’re more of the person everybody has fun with, like the last time someone hit on one of your friends you are always the one that give me the most trouble.
And you, you are just plain trouble. I would even want to get started with you.
You would totally be like my little sister if I had one.
No but it was funny because one of the things I was reading about there was this guy who went around asking people questions and depending on how they reacted he was able to find out who he would get along with best.
So actually come here for a second (mini isolate the target)
So let me ask you this,
And just the first thing that comes to your head.
What is the Craziest thing you’ve done?
No come on no need to blush, just the first thing that comes to mind…
(make her answer, and make it fun, this is not to qualify in the traditional sense. It is to gain compliance and to cold read)
Ok so really, that is it with you? Now I can already tell you seem pretty cool, either that or you’re a total dork, but I can tell you’re someone that I am probably going to end up knowing for a while. And because of that, I know you have done weirder shit than what you just said.
(If the group is still around then you can engage for just a second with this but only to keep them happy and back to more isolation with her)
So guys, she is totally the girl that you can’t trust with anything right…
Like she is always the big gossip, right?
(back to mini isolation before the girl remerges the group)
But actually it is a funny thing cause…actually what is a hobby of yours?
(she answers)
So you know how there are things that you do, like outside of hanging out with your friends that can shape you outlook on things. Like even when you are around certain people is can totally change your perspective?
And I have this friend Sheila and she is like one of the most beautiful people I know, but she is super insecure, and once she opens her mouth you pick up on it right away.
But with me most of my friends around me always say that when they hangout with me they feel comfortable in telling me anything.
Actually with you, and with just how you respond you’re that friend that probably can keep a secret better than any of them, mainly because you don’t judge people and your friend come at you with all sorts of crazy stuff. So if we do anything crazy tonight you’ll have to pinky swear with me not to tell anyone…
PART 2
So here is one of the things with me. And it has always been a really big pet peeve.
I work with computers, and I always knew I would be in a field where I could use that creative side to me but also technical. The only problem is that most of the people I work with come at it from a completely different angle.
They work to work, rather than work to accent a certain part of themselves.
Actually what is it that you do for work?
(she answers)
That’s kind of cool, it is actually like the same thing with me. You have the same passions and can over the line at times but you don’t really do it around everyone. But when you are comfortable around people you actually have no problem showing it.
I would even say that you have a lot of friends but you only have 2 or 3 really good ones that actually get to see your wild side.
So really now, tell me the truth, what is something that is totally out of your element that people don’t get from you?
(she answers)
Ok so I am still not sure about you… you’ve totally inspired me I have got to give you this test. Come here.
(isolate some more, away form friends)
Ok so again just the first thing that comes to mind here.
My friend actually asked me this thing when I had just broken up with my ex so my answer would probably be different now.
So just the first one that comes to mind…
So pick a number between one and four.
Alright, you got it?
So what did you pick?
(here is how you read the answers…
first you start out by saying what you number was and it needs to be different than yours.
So you say…)
So when I did it I picked X
And like I said I was just out of a relationship and so X means that I was hesitant to show people what I was like all the time. Like I actually would rather go out with a group of people and than by myself. I would rather have people lead than be independent.
But you being a Y, that is a bit different. You are actually your best self when you acting on your own. And more than your friends you can be really aggressive, but more internally than anything. Like I said you have this total wild side when you are allowed to feel it.
Like I wouldn’t even want to see what kind of crazy shit you have got in you closet at home, there’s probably all these crazy trophies from your ex boyfriend. I could totally see you as the girl that could intimidate most guys you meet.
So right now we will break.
Here this is a good lead into establishing Comfort while building up all your frames and generating attraction while doing it.
I will post the Breakdowns on Monday with the rest of the stuff, showing how to build off of those Frames and do so with Subpersonalities and really making their emotions invested in to how you are defining your interaction with them
But you see game can work for anybody, you just have got to voice it in the right way!
And as alway, let me know what you think
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