sexual cold reading framing and text

review gary broadsky how to be a player aka how to dominate women play the game.
he talks alot of having control of her identity her image of what you think about her..to have her investing into you.
this connected with topos post on readstack and
breakdown of california pimp frame control and escalation to getting her aroused in sexual state.
alessy taylor.

so you have to be proactive. intressting.
I text:

ME: I had a dream about you last night , but I cant tell you
HER: haha you are 2 funny (accepting the frame)

later
ME: YEah :P I mean if you were to imagine how Hot Wild and passionate that would be like...you wouldnt be able to stop thinking abou tit the whole day ;)


Topo talks about his basis of redstack
:
It is my belief that if people studied
#1 the TMM model and got an instructor to break it down
#2 Studied the California Pimp
#3 Studied Alexyss K Tylor
#4 Kept up on social psychology and all the studies about sub communication
#5 And tested it out in the field consistently (like using a routine stack)

People from whatever background could be bad ass at game.
So with that being said….
Here is my stack, with my notes on it so you can NOT try and copy me, but BUILD your own.

My current routine stack…
(well maybe not now because I am publishing it)
And explanations as to why it works…


Opener-
(at opener engage in touching, you don’t have to do it continuously, just begin it. For myself I just touch them on the arm and don’t escalate till I bait them into more comfort.

Direct
(in using direct, you need to carry it quickly into conversation, these openers won’t get you anywhere if you don’t jump threads right away.)

“Hey, you guys seem nice, are you friendly?”
“So where do all the cool people hang out?”

Opinion

“Hey guys, I have got to ask you, my friend Michelle and I were here (or some other place, any place public really) he other night and there were these two making out in the middle of the walk way… (light tap on the arm) No seriously listen (I qualify them during the opener to maintain their attention, this is important, because if you can control their state then you can capitalize on that massively)
What I she always like this?
No but really they were like in the middle of the walkway. I like totally don’t get how people think that is like ok.
(Change state to something more intimate)
You know like when I was dating my ex-girlfriend, she is a dancer, we would, like to be together at places, and sometimes but we had a booth or something.
(access if the state change in comfort hooked and jump thread, if not back to attraction state and continue with opener and attraction threads)
Like seriously next time I see that I am going to go up to the guy and girl and give them a condom or something.


After in the group, usually within 30 seconds if I haven’t hooked comfort yet.

So how do you guys all know each other?
That’s cool, cause I am from Hawaii and I am not used to how people socialize here. I mean I have been here for years, but… (this almost always get an opening to comfort)

But if not I continue…

(build another intimate state with a little bit of excitement)
Yeah like you can tell a lot about people n how they carry themselves. Like you know my friend Molly is this just beautiful girl, she is just the perfect mix of everything, but the way she carries herself just exudes this lack of confidence.
(here make your state more quiet, from the heart… as if they can see it in your eyes)
And then you’ll know somebody that is not made up at all, not too much make-up and they’re just themselves, and they radiate.

You can keep going with but you can usually jump from there, but if you do want to continue….

Like I when I walked by you guys, just out of the corner of my eye I caught you guys and I kind of caught that vibe.
You know how you just kind of get that from people?

Transitioning
(here is the key to a transition, they should be done smoothly, you stack should script that, like everything you say should bait them further into your stack. At this point I have a lot of stuff going on. I have I am from Hawaii (get a reaction), I have DHVs of hanging out with my friends who are women. I have an ex that is a dancer. I have intuition about people that notices the ‘true beauty’ of people, and a slight cold read on them. So I can transition and build in any of those ways. So how do I want the night to go… am I looking for and SNL, do I want to go for a Day 2, Do I want a fuck buddy, do I want to try and find a girl that I can just have fun with and keep me company, or maybe I am thinking about settling down and want to find a girl I really like.
This is perhaps the most important part of HOW your game is played right here.
Right here, you should have attraction and slipping into comfort. But one thing Sinn brought to the community is that they all interact with each other. Attraction weaves through Comfort, and it even makes it into Seduction. They are cyclical, they are all prominent enough to be their own thing, but they all work with each other many times all three at once.)

So here is my qualification
(also at this point you should have social isolation within the group, if not it would not be impolite to isolate her)

“Hey you know what, you guys are cool, I can tell form just…
So what do you do when you’re not hanging out at (name venue)?”

Answer doesn’t matter,

“Wow, really. That’s actually really cool, my friend Ishtar does (name their answer) and he is like the most… together person I know. Like I am a Photographer, Like I have a cool job, and I get to travel all over the place, but Ishtar has got something, you know, something that I want. He’s like so grounded with himself.”

Ok, here is the thing; you don’t have to say you’re a photographer.
I have a job and skill that is normally ‘socially’ cooler than most people’s jobs.
The reason why I bring them up in their occupation is because it helps align my comfort. Then they are framed to play to me. Right now very lightly, but later it gets really big. Kind of like, what I do with my life is really beautiful and passionate, I will give you a taste of it, so you can se how beautiful it is. So now you see how important it is for me to do what I do, so you have to help me maintain it. So it will develop a Harem or Servant Comfort. See all that to explain, what a frame does. In fact you could incorporate that all into a cold read too to give them more identity with it.

So let’s say you have a job that is ‘socially’ uncooler than most people’s jobs. You can transition in many ways. But it is not the job that defines the interaction. Your job is not your identity, notice I don’t’ talk about my job I talk about my values. With that in mind here is an example if I were to get somebody who had a ‘socially’ cooler job.
“Wow, really that is amazing, you know when I was a boy I used to dream about that. (or let’s say is a female exclusive job, you should go into a similar story about how when you were young your friend, sister, mom, aunt dreamt of that of was that) Then you need to manufacture a story about it.
Transition into so when you were young did you always know how this was going to be?

For story telling, that is a whole art in itself.
And a massive tool for comfort.

But we will leave it there for now.
A stack that emulates this will easily get you into heavy comfort.
If I can get a girl to go this far into my stack about (10mins-15mins) I can pretty much tell where I am with her. I can tell if she is closable.

So there it is. There is actually more on comfort that I have to say, but there is only so much that I can write for the night.

Word

Alexyss K Tylor is a fucking Genius!
I know I have to say it again and again, but this lady knows her stuff.
I watch her on youtube and get virile AND pumped LIKE a GOD of VIGINA POWER!

Man she is a Genius!
People think I am joking, but she knows her shit.
As she has selfproclaimed
She has a PHD in getting fucked and sucked and used and ABUSED!

Check her out!
If you'e not causing a woman to make a TV show dedicated to the Vagina Powers you're not a PUA!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=N391gDkHcrE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JdGJxI6LrX4
http://youtube.com/watch?v=z5tNTZ5WE0U
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8Y3HF0BYtbk

Learn the POWER of the PENIS and the SPIRITUALITY of the SPERM!
Posted by El Topo at 2:02 AM



Guys this is quite possibly the most impactive product that you can get!
And it is Newly Revised to make it easier to learn.
Here's what it is,
You give me a short synopsis of your life, and I turn it into 90 Plus Mins of customized material for you, that takes you from Opening all the way into Deep Comfort.
It utilizes the idea of framing, defining the identity and interaction you have with whoever you're talking to.

I believe it is the most efficient way to game. This is how the Dallas Crew of PUAs (Sinn Captain Jack, Shaft and Myself) would be able to get those 20min to 4 hour Lays.

If you are interested in reading about some of the methods in how I translate your life into solid material check out these blog posts.
theREDstack Post 1
theREDstack Post 2
theREDstack Post 3

The great thing about having a stack is that you don't have to think, you can go into a set and tell the story of your life, from the opener. Go out and game with better success than using canned material that has nothing to do with you.

The process is easy, I send you some information to fill out for me to build your profile and after you're done with that, give me about 10 days to build it. I send it to you in an email and you're set to go.

theREDstack & New Podcast with Doc and Saffron
Hey Guys,
Here is a pretty funny Podcast with the dudes from Practical Pick Up.
Doc Holiday and Saffron!

If you don't read their blogs you should. Entropy is in one with Sinn, and Entropy and I were way too drunk to record anything in Detroit, but there will be an NEXT TIME!

Go HERE for the Podcast!

Hopefully you guys like the face lift to my blog, Thanks to Doc Holiday. There will be more to come with a reviews page and some other links to LRs and More Popular Writings.

I wrote this article last week, let me know what you think...
Also there will be Text Game Part 3 and some more of the Comfort Stuff I wrote about a few week ago coming up!

To all in North Carolina... see you there in a few days!

ET


theREDstack
Building Routines from your Life

For the past 9 months I have developed a pretty popular product I in the community. I call it theREDstack. Whenever I go to lairs I give demonstrations of how to build them for yourself, which is kind of how this article came about. Now there is a lot to it, but one of the most impressive things that people comment to me on is how I turn mundane stories from people’s lives into something that can be used in game.

What theREDstack is basically you give me some information from your life, I will come up with a series of routines that will build you Attraction, Seduction in tandem, while making is all flow smoothly together. Usually about 90mins of material. You will hardly need any other routines after you have it.

Now mainly I write these articles because, although I took a Boot Camp, most of my game knowledge came from people showing me their ideas and adding a little creativity and application to it. The community taught me. Of course that was the community of Captain Jack, Sinn, Future, Shaft and Fidelio, but nonetheless I learned for free after my BC. So hopefully you can take away something from this and down the road show me a thing or two!

So if you like what you are reading please email me eltopoPUA@gmail.com and find more information like this on my Blog- http://the-red-mole.blogspot.com/

So let’s start with what makes a DHV Story (Demonstration of Higher Value).

What a DHV Story is based on are the Attraction Switches.
There are a ton of them, and they should probably be re named but let’s take some of the ones I like to implement while working with people.

-Understanding Women’s Emotions
-Identity
-Lifestyle
-Pre-selected by Women
-Being Dominant
-Wiling to Emote
-Protector of Loved Ones

These are just a few of the 15 or so of the Attraction Switches kicking around and I know those are different than the one’s normally mentioned but I really want to shed more light of things rather than say the same thing over and over again.

Now let’s see if we can take normal and average stuff from someone’s life and turn it into something that can work as a DHV.

How we will do this, is I will take common things from what people tell me, usually thinking they are DLVs (Demonstrations of Lower Value) and turn them into powerful stories.

Hopefully you will be able to come up with some of your own, after reading this.

-When I was growing up I had a very strong mother, that juggled cleaning the house, taking care of us kids but also taught us to cultivate our individual passions.
- My first real friend was a girl down the street, when I started school my new friends made fun of me for being friends with a girl and I never talked to her again.
-I work as a teacher in middle school.
- When I was young I remember how my dad, who only had me on the weekends, would work on cars. I would watch him, but it always made me sad that he would not actively show me. I think I actually annoyed him.
- I would walk my little sister to school everyday after she came home crying because some of the boys made fun of her.
- The first time I felt like I was grown up, was when my father and I got stuck on a fishing boat and I actually helped us get back to shore. He treated me differently after that and it was the first time I thought he was proud of me.
- I get insecure around women I am attracted to.
-My mom passed away when I was 18, and it is the single most experience that changed my life.
- My friend Ralph was separating from his wife and I helped them reconcile and they are still married to this day.


So those are typical things I hear during presentations and typical things that I get in people’s profiles when creating theREDstack for them. Here is a simple story that will Frames, Add Value and Lead the target in the right direction. And it will be based on the information above.

‘One of the things that I really love about meeting people is what you grab from people’s first impressions. For instance, when I was growing up I was pretty much raised by my mother, and so I have always had close friends that were women.

But one of the things that I can remember was that my first friend was a girl from down the street, and my dad left when I was 3 years old so my mother used to work quite a bit. So I would stay at one of the neighbor’s houses. They had a girl my age and pretty much from the age of 3 to 5 we were best friends.
It was such a different interaction in thinking back on it.
Mainly because the dynamic was different than how I ended up interacting with my guy friends, but we were so innocent too. There was nothing to fear because we had nothing to influence us.
And actually, when I started school things became totally screwed up. Right away, the guys in my kindergarten class made fun of me for being friends with a girl, and I never talked to her again. She tried to talk to me, but eventually gave up. And it will always be one of those things that I feel guilty about.

But, you know it is like the same thing now as it was then. The way men and women communicate in that same sort of way. Like things that happen between me and my girlfriends are always fun, but they are like a part of our own world. When you are with guys there is always social pressure that tries to influence you.
Like take sex for example, in how guys view it and how women view it. I always thought I was weird around my guy friends when I would bring this up but women always seemed to think this way. Women like to experience between people, and guys really only seem to care about getting off.

For me, I always hate bringing this up, but around really attractive people I can get intimidated. And to be honest you’re a really good looking woman, and I shouldn’t be afraid to say that, but those are the things that I think intimidate guys to act the way they do. I mean one thing I know from growing up with a sister and a mother around me all the time is women, like to be lead, but at the same time it has got to be done right.
Like what is something that you hated about the last guy you dated?

(she answers, doesn’t matter what she say you just continue on)

No, the thing about it is that guys don’t know how to be men anymore. Guys are pussies. Like I remember when I was 11 my sister, who is 2 years younger that me, got picked on by some guys on the way home from school. And I remember it made me so mad, that everyday for the rest of the year I walked with her hoping to see those guys. I never did see em, but that is what is missing from guys these days. They don’t get how to communicate with women. They don’t even realize that sometimes women want to be lead, and that being comfortable is more important than being pressured into anything. They don’t get that a simple action or bit of caring can change everything.

I bet you like to be totally wild, and you intimidate most guys who meet you, and when you date them, but if they allow you to be comfortable with them you can totally let loose, right?

So if you don’t mind me asking what do you do for work?

(she answers)

Wow, cool, I am a teacher.
You know that makes me think about how I came about doing what I do. I mean there are things that you do when you are a kid that kind of shape who and how you’re going to be right.
Like my dad would have me on the weekends and every chance I got I wanted to spend with him. I can remember sitting in the garage and watching him work on his car. That is pretty much all he did all the time.
I always wanted him to show me, but for the most part he was mostly annoyed by me being there. He wouldn’t let me mess up his tools so I would make up my own and sit there and teach myself how to fix cars.
I didn’t really know what I was doing but I would do it, just to imagine myself doing it.
And from that moment on I always knew I would be doing something where I would be helping people.

But like I said, it is part the job and part of how you grew up. Like because you work as a (X) you actually have a lot of the same things going on as me. Like my job has always made me really passionate and tenacious and with you because you work in (X) I can see the same things, but you actually do those things outside of your work. Like you are totally a girl that can step over the line, but like I said earlier, you just have to feel comfortable with someone first before you can let that wild side out.

It is actually a weird thing though, because there are 2 events in my life that really changed me. It is just like when you are a little kid and you could decide to go in one direction and the path you choose really defines a lot. Like I was saying with my first friend who was a girl. I will feel guilty about that anytime I think about it.

But there was this one time when I was with my father, and like I said I always wanted his attention and never felt like I got it. And when I was 16 we were fishing and we didn’t get back to shore before the sun went down. To make a long story short we both worked together to get back to shore. I could tell that it was one of the first times my dad was actually scared. And when we got back to shore I realized that, at that point he actually considered that I was grown up.
That moment changed my whole perspective and direction on things.
And then 2 years later my mother actually passed away.
It was one of those things that I will never forget. It changed me in so many ways, but one of the things it changed most about me was that, you need to live life in the moment and live it completely.
Sometimes you need to give your love to everyone, and other times you just need to have fun and not care about being careless.

Let me ask you something, you look like someone who could use a break, outside of all the bullshit. When was the last time you did something that truly defined you. Like I mean something totally crazy?

See that is the thing that is missing from peoples lives. I mean my best friend from childhood is my buddy Ralph. And him and his wife were having issues, and don’t get me wrong I would love to have my buddy around me at all times, drinking beer and watching sports, but he was screwing up a good thing. It was like they had all the relationship stuff down but no spontaneity. And that is something that all people want and need, especially women, but nobody will every really ask for.
And it was funny, but just that little bit, that little bit of surprise and romance where his wife needed to be swept of her feet and be taken to feel like a women, was all that was missing.

I mean I hate to bring this up, when I was just saying that your face kind of lit up… you’re sexually frustrated.'


To keep this short I don’t want to get into all the specific Frames happening here, but this is not just conversation. It is very structured, balancing emotion, Attraction and Introducing and defining Sexuality for them. When you think about it this is about 5-10 mins of material and in that short amount of time you can lead the conversation in a tactical direction.
And also you can have it from your life.

If you are interested in knowing about anymore of this stuff, hit me up. And hit me up about anything eltopoPUA@gmail.com
Or read more on my blog
my Blog- http://the-red-mole.blogspot.com/


Thanks

ET



theREDstack Part 2
The other night I sent out a post on my Podcast list (sign up on the upper right hand corner of my blog. Sing up I will be putting out another promotion out there this weekend!).
(Also make sure you scroll down later to take a look at the Lesson I included in this!)
It was announcing that I am about starting to take orders again for theREDstack!
It has actually been unadvertised for the past 3 and a half months.
But here is the thing with it, Fidelio and I are not quite done to the changes we have made. theREDstack got Immediate results for students with that Product and we want to get even better Results with the New Version.


The new stacks are very heavy on Attraction, but using the new ideas of Attraction, It was utilized in the original stacks but now it is thoroughly explained, with more uses of it making it more prominent.

Since I started teaching theREDstack Seminar along with new developments in game some awesome evolutions have taken place. And I will give some examples of this later in the post.
But the main things was that in theREDstack Seminar I build everyone who attends a basic “Attraction Stack”. An Attraction Stack basically gets you from opening into Heavy Rapport, and it begins your Framing, which I think is the most effective part of game.

Now some of the New Ideas in Terms of Attraction don’t use the older models as Attraction being a series of Steps or Routines. How I view Attraction is that it is an Attitude that only opens a door to the use of framing, other emotional reactions, and things like Subpersonalities. Once myself and some of the other Dallas guys started using Attraction in this way, we got way more efficient and consistent results.

When I started writing stacks, I used attraction in this way, and some found it confusing…but those that were able to make use of it got insane results. I have written over 70 of these and within a week 23 people (that I know of ) got SNLs.. That is Insane!

People don’t get those results from taking a Boot Camp. And not everybody wanted their stack to be geared towards SNLs. Remember thery are Custom to your life and your goals in Game.

So here is what I talked about in the email,
I had said that in the past 3 Lair Talks I have done in June (Boston, Detroit, and Charlotte) I had multiple guys tell me they would do anything to do a Boot Camp of a Stack Seminar but they didn’t have the money.
And it sucks to turn down a guy who has ambition but can’t afford the price.

So I decided for July I was going to offer a Shortened Version of the updated REDstack for a discounted price. Normally it is $750 and about 30 pages long, usually carrying you 90mins Plus in set. I have committed that I will only take 10 orders and in the past 30 hours I have sold 5.
You can sign up for them HERE and I will get in contact with you about them once you have signed up!

Now in August My new stacks will be ready and the price will be back up at $750. Yes, those stack will be longer and more thorough, mainly because I need to be fair to my past and future clients.
But this will be a great opportunity for those who have a little less to invest get something that has IMMEDIATE results and at a more affordable price.

Here is an Example of what I got in the last week where I implement parts of my New Stack to a Story a client gave me to look over.

Again if you are interested in getting in on the before they are sold out, Click Here!
They will sell out in the next few days!



Q and A

El Topo,

Using what you gave me from the stack info online I took this story from an Art Show I was featured at.
Can you tell me if I am going in the right direction or not?
I believe that what I created here is what you go for in your stacks. It is a DHV I never knew how to say until I read your stuff, let me know if I am on the right track.

Thanks in advanced,

T-Bone PUA


Here it is-

"It's funny you say that because in my experience often the most important moments in your life aren't what you think they're going to be.
For instance, I wrote this have always been an artist, doing paintings, right?

I don't know if you've ever heard that White Stripes song "Little Room," but he talks about the excitement of sitting in your tiny room, and you're working on something that you just know is great, you know it's really going to blow people's hair back and how magnificent that feeling is. Well, I always felt that way when I would begin painting something in my little room and this time it turned into this big thing.
And the first showing of it was -- God, it was massive. It was in New York and basically the studio took over Tribeca with all the commotion and after party.
But the thing is... my family is really fragmented. My parents had a really angry divorce that -- well, truth is I think they were both the love of each other's lives and even though the couldn't stay married they probably they never really moved from that relationship. So my parents can't really be in the same room together. And my brother and dad hadn't talked for like 9 years at the point. Couldn't invite family friends without my family feeling burned. And I was dating around in LA but nothing serious -- no one I wanted to fly to New York with me and share this major moment.


So the night comes and I'm in this hotel room overlooking Central Park in this city that nearly ruined me just a few years before. And I put on this suit -- I was so stressed about what to wear I found this cranky old tailor who actually used to make suits for Frank Sinatra and have him make me one. So I put the suit on and, well, it's perfect. Perfect suit. Perfect hotel. Perfect, perfect, perfect... so why am I feeling so weird?


So I end up going to the Showing of my Painting with my two Managers and my lawyer. They're amazing people -- they would each kill for me and actually have, in their way. But I was like, who am I really sharing this with? You know, my dad, when I would get my report card -- and in elementary school they don't give you As and Cs but things like "demonstrates skill" or "needs improvement." So my dad had this ritual like where we'd read through the report card and he's just read them off like, "class participation... DEMONSTRATES SKILL!" and so on. And that would be our joke for years to come whenever I did something well. So I really missed him not being there to look over at me and say, "DEMONSTRATES SKILL!" during that night.


You know, when you create something from yourself, and other or guests people look at it, see it experience it, and then they look at YOU and don't see what's on the canvas -- it's weird, because it's YOU up there, but no one sees you. All that stuff you thought up in your little room, well, there it is! They see the colors and the flow and interpret it all but they don't see you in your little room, right? So I looked at the who was next to me... empty ... No real family, no real friends... And there I am in my perfect suit on this perfect night and I was like, "Can we just get this over with?"


It's funny, though, amidst all that there was this one thing that happened. You know there was a lot of international press there the other artists. And, you know, no one really knows what I looked like. But somehow this girl -- young, maybe 24, great energy, great style, from some German Radio station or something comes over and knows who I am and does this small interview with me. And we finish it up and then after she turns her recorder off we have this... moment. Like a look passes between us. And do you know -- I know that you do -- but you know how there are certain *looks* you share with someone that can carry the full charge and intensity of, say, a 6 month relationship? It was one of those. Like when you're both really seeing the other person. And it happened as we were kind of walking away from each other. So after the movie I'm looking around for her to... I don't know what for. I guess I really just needed some kind of connection that night. But I was never able to find her. Maybe she had to go file her story. Who knows. But I didn't know then what I know now -- that there are moments, just seconds, sometimes, where you have the opportunity to magnify something with someone. And if you don't take it, you will never have that again. I'm not saying you'll be lonely for ever, but those exact circumstances -- that person, that lighting, that situation, that willingness, that intensity -- will never present itself exactly the same way again. And if you walk away from it you are walking away from it for good. Period. Which is kind of heartbreaking. But also very cool. For instance... you and me, here, talking... "


Hey T-BonePUA,

Sorry for getting back to you so late, but here is what I get from this story.


I think that you get the story telling part of this all. It is actually a pretty good NLP style thread but we are missing some of the FRAMES and Cycling and Maintaining Attraction in the story.
Very good emotional flow, but nothing is pushing and pulling back on the listener, nor Defining them. So you need add some structural technique in it.

I hope this helps!

ET

Here are some frames you want to fit in your stories-
- Spontaneity
- Sexually Aggressive
- Being a Leader
- Takes Risks
- Non-Judgmental
There are more, but right now, you have a great story but no frames taking advantage of it all.


So pretty much all of the story can stay the same. You need 3 things to it.

-You need a beginning description of it(define the frame), which you have but you need to link it to them more.

-You need to use check ins and qualification to have them build more interest

-You need to define the ending a bit better (again you do this, but you can make all those emotions a bit more sexual). At the end the initial frame definition should have way more meaning by the story taking place, and the ending definition.


So let me give you a few examples of what I mean.
The story can start off by leading them with some sort of qualification, that will inspire a story in order to make that qualifier make more sense.

So you can ask or tell one of these

1-Let me ask you this, when did you last meet someone that changed your complete perspective on things?

2- I was wondering, you seem like someone who is close with their family?

3- When was the last time you let something slip through your fingers?
4- I can tell you are someone who has the best stuff happen to you when you go for what's in front of you.

Then based off of their reaction, you lead in to the story. You then need to say what the story is about. In this you need to define the frame you want before going into it. Then the story is just to give the frame emotional identity. Then afterwards you redefine that frame. So based on the qualifier you need to transition (you do this well, but I would do it this way).

for the first question you could say something like this after she answers.

'I mean that is one of the most important things for me, is when you meet someone you need to live for that moment. Actually it makes me think of this White Strips song....'

For the second one you could say...

'That is what I figured, I knew when I met you, you had that warm heart to that wild persona you have too. I mean I have always had kind of a refracted family. And it made me such an internal person. I mean it is almost like I still have my friends that are beautiful people and I consider them my family. But that is something that brings the best out of me, that side which can disappear into myself and that other side that loves to connect. And actually I think you are the same in a way. (she can acknowledge or not) You know that reminds me of this White Stripes song...'

For the third...

'See I have always been someone who has been spontaneous, but it can be a double edged sword.
Like with you there are two sides of you too. I bet your best moments are when you do step over the edge, and sometimes you slip but it can be worth it in the end.
There is this song by the White Stripes...'

For the fourth...

'For me I had to learn to actually be that way. I was not always someone who would go for stuff right off the bat. I think that is how I started writing... but that is how I can pick out people with that sort of crazy mentality to know when to jump, because I have to be around those people to get anywhere...hahahaha. But this is actually a funny story, you know that White Stripes song....'

So also you need some check-ins, to engage them more. This is a Juggler thing. And super effective. This is only one tool to Cycle the Attraction, but remember Attraction is just there to open the door for you, it is not really leading much, it is Baiting!

For instance, when you bring up the song 'little room', that is great but make it interactive.
So you could say something like, 'you know when you're a little kid and you have music that makes things, like what is one of those songs that brings you right back to childhood?'
After she answers then you can continue on.

The reason for this is because you need for them to emotionally interact in your experience as much as possible.

And the story is a bit long, but if you are in comfort with someone it shouldn't be a problem in terms of what logistics. You say you wouldn't talk to anyone at clubs about this, but do you only pick up in clubs? And you could say all this in a club, you would just have to keep maintaining attraction throughout it. We can talk about this over the phone.

But the meat of the story is good, but you just need it to have their emotions hook to the frames.
Now the frames at the end right now are that 'we are meeting now and we can't pass it up'. That is great but they could be so much more. Remember, if you start out with a frame then after they get lost in the story they can define the frame at the end of it.

So you can say something like...

'Like meeting you right now...but don't get any ideas, your wild side might be too much for me.'

'You know one of the things with you, is I don't meet people like this, even in a club. There is so much to a person that you get off when you first meet them. Like right now with you, I can tell so much about you, it is just when egos get in the way we see so many other things. I mean you have this totally cute side to you, but I bet that gets you out of more trouble than people give you credit for.'

'And so we my whole thing is when someone comes my way and I know they are someone I would like to meet, I go out of my way to make that happen. And with you there is so much more than what people know you for. I bet you intimidate most people, like I bet your last boyfriend you held back on him, right?'

Hope that Helps

ET
eltopoPUA@gmail.com


El Topo's Smooth Transitions to Comfort

So I am about to head up to Detroit for a Lair Talk and Workshop with Entropy from Boston.

Should be an awesome weekend, and should be a learning experience all around.
Doc, Saffron, Entropy and Myself are all going to trade One on One’s with each other.
And form now on anyone that I work with closely we will do the same thing.

In any case, there are also some new podcast coming out and some audio LRs (don’t let that fool you, it is more like us interviewing each other about certain LRs we have had).

But I wanted to write this mainly because my Gaming Towards a Life Style and My Text Message breakdown Posts have been popular.
This will shed some light on both of those topics as well as shed light on topics that are often ignored in the community.

So what made theREDstack such a popular product was that there is so little
information out there on comfort game.

When someone is new to the community or they take their first Boot Camp they will often say that they Have no Attraction Game, but once they are talking to a girl they are fine (assumed Comfort). But once they work on Attraction and get that down, Comfort then loses its familiarity.

Mainly because it has no structure.

But again let me know what you think,
eltopoPUA@gmail.com

If you are like MMAPUA and don’t want to read my ramblings on Theory then skip to the part listed as EXAMPLE way down at the bottom.

On Mon I will post the rest of this on the puasanctuary.com/forum and the Lounge too.
But in this post I will show you how to establish Frames that smoothly lead you into Comfort.

So when we get to the Comfort Game there was very little ever written on it or taught in general about it.

Initially it was broken down into 3 parts, C1, C2 and C3.
I think that these were a good way to simplify things but even the breakdown of Attraction in this same way neglects a lot of the interactions.
Things like A1, A2 and A3 are generally consistent in interactions, but there is a lot more to it and a lot less than what is normally sold.
Attraction Game sells and feels good at first, but it really has very little to do with getting to know someone let alone sleeping with them, and if you’re into the normal disturbing interactions I work towards it is useless.

So the person that helped me understand Comfort the best is the genius Captain Jack.
What he did was cut out DHVs and start to use Frames. Also what I saw him to and what Shaft does was layer a rhythm of emotions and frames.

CJ would actually use his dossal style of Attraction just enough to begin the Rhythm of his framing.

So before I breakdown some examples, let’s go over a few things.

1-Why Comfort is important?

Comfort is not babysitting or just gaining rapport. It is not just time bridging and changing locations. It is not telling heart melters or even emotionally moving someone. It is not just framing someone, or eliciting a subpersonality…it is all those things and more. It is how you place them all together.

It is getting someone into Rapport (on an equal level to you, no need to gain more dominance, but rather maintain it) and moving the interaction where you want it to go.
The reason why it is important is because you can have your most amount of influence here. You can actually define your relationship to your target here, and that is what this thing called game is really all about.

2- What is Layering emotions and Frames?

What I saw CJ do, then Shaft do and myself do, was simple take the same idea of multi threading but instead use Frames and different emotional eliciting stories to have the Frames gain more validity and momentum.

So CJ might give off some fun sexual frame, and then transition immediately into a story about his life that brought out emotion (aka a Heart Melter)

An example would be Strawberry Field into the Electric Bill story.
I will give more examples later.

3- What are Subpersonalities and Why are they important?

Subpersonalities are one way of saying that people have dynamics within themselves that are consistent. Like everybody has a part of them that can go totally out of control, everyone has a part of them that can be angry, everyone has a part to them that likes o be innocent and again, if you’re me, everyone has a side to them that likes to have their sexual creativity pushed to their limits.
Sometimes they are referred to as roles.
Now the reason why they’re important is because they help build compliance in a frame you’re trying to instill in someone.

What is mean is that if you are telling a girl that she is a girl that doesn’t judge you want her to believe it. So if you can bring that out with a part of her personality for her to immediately act upon then you have not only built a belief in her that, that side of her exists, but also you have gotten her to exercise that muscle of compliance towards that action, and if you’re really good you can then define that action as some other frame you’re going for.

Again, I will give an example of all this a bit later.

4- How do I manage Comfort?

This is something that people always ask me. Actually they ask me, what if you don’t get into comfort that quick. Well you can achieve rapport right away, but you can’t necessarily hold it. Every set it different but you will always need to do what we call CYCLE Attraction.

Attraction is your tool to open up window so that you can go further in Set.
So you can use it to transition in Comfort, you can use it to introduce a Frame, you can use it to work your logistics, you can use it to bust through LMR. It is the main tool in the Kung Fu Penis.

But in going for Rapport as quickly as possible and keeping it moving in the direction you want it to go, you have to manage it. So you have to use Attraction to make it move in the right direction.
So now think of Attraction like an Attitude rather than a series of steps.
Attraction is what you use to maintain comfort.

And again I will include examples of how to make this work below.

So before we get to the examples let’s go over briefly how loose Comfort was laid out before.
C1 was to Isolate. That is true but there wasn’t nearly as much of a structure to it than there was laid out for attraction, which is such a small interaction of game (considering a timeline, Comfort was always the most predominant area).

C2 was to Possibly Kiss and to set up the Time Bridge.
This is true too but you don’t need to Time Bridge all the time, and you can Kiss earlier too. I think Kissing in the Venue you meet them at while working quick game sets off more ASD than anything.

C3 was the Day 2. Day 2s are good for a while I was on a steak that I never did them, but sometimes you just got to. But again there was a lack of real structure to them.

And don’t get me started on the Seduction Part. There is even less information on that, and I am not even sure why… cause I thought that was the end goal in all of this.
I thought that this was all about getting laid and although I know the founders in all of this did get laid, it was just that none of this was ever broken down in a way that could work for most guys. But the Seduction Phase is definitely something that people like myself, Sinn, CJ, and pretty much everyone we work with can breakdown.

So in order to give this some structure, let’s say I am coaching a guy on Routines that is a Computer Programmer that is from a Family where he is the Only Child, and lives in Chicago, but is from a small town in Indiana and didn’t move to a big city until after college. The guy I am coaching has a hobby of Reading Self Help Books.
Now all the guys need to do is have some balls and is willing to open and gain dominance in the set. What to say, I can post about, but all the Body Language, Tonality, Expressions, and How you interact in set I can’t really write about…for now at least.

So here is the stack I would give him…


EXAMPLE
(I have broken it up into Parts so That is will be easier to Breakdown later)
From Opener

PART 1-

Hey guys, do you think that people kissing in a bar is something that totally normal or kind of weird?

(they answer)

Well, it is crazy because the other night I was with my friend Nancy and we saw these two totally getting down like in the hallway to the bathroom. I mean even the bouncers were afraid to break em up.
Like I was at the point where I was ready to hand em the keys to my car and the condom in my pocket.

But seriously when I was with my ex we would be intimate but we never wanted to show off, we would actually be somewhere out of someone’s view.

Transition with

So how do you guys know each other?

(they answer, doesn’t matter what they say)

Really?
That is interesting because I was just reading in this book about people’s reactions to questions and it was saying how at your first impression with someone that actually can tell you more about someone than what they tell you 5 mins after you meet them. I mean I was an only child so I have always been really good at getting what I want.
Like with you I can tell that you lead the group, and how you interact with people you’re the one that will actually pave the way for you friends.
And you, I don’t know, but you’re more of the person everybody has fun with, like the last time someone hit on one of your friends you are always the one that give me the most trouble.

And you, you are just plain trouble. I would even want to get started with you.
You would totally be like my little sister if I had one.

No but it was funny because one of the things I was reading about there was this guy who went around asking people questions and depending on how they reacted he was able to find out who he would get along with best.

So actually come here for a second (mini isolate the target)
So let me ask you this,
And just the first thing that comes to your head.

What is the Craziest thing you’ve done?
No come on no need to blush, just the first thing that comes to mind…

(make her answer, and make it fun, this is not to qualify in the traditional sense. It is to gain compliance and to cold read)

Ok so really, that is it with you? Now I can already tell you seem pretty cool, either that or you’re a total dork, but I can tell you’re someone that I am probably going to end up knowing for a while. And because of that, I know you have done weirder shit than what you just said.

(If the group is still around then you can engage for just a second with this but only to keep them happy and back to more isolation with her)

So guys, she is totally the girl that you can’t trust with anything right…
Like she is always the big gossip, right?

(back to mini isolation before the girl remerges the group)

But actually it is a funny thing cause…actually what is a hobby of yours?
(she answers)
So you know how there are things that you do, like outside of hanging out with your friends that can shape you outlook on things. Like even when you are around certain people is can totally change your perspective?
And I have this friend Sheila and she is like one of the most beautiful people I know, but she is super insecure, and once she opens her mouth you pick up on it right away.
But with me most of my friends around me always say that when they hangout with me they feel comfortable in telling me anything.

Actually with you, and with just how you respond you’re that friend that probably can keep a secret better than any of them, mainly because you don’t judge people and your friend come at you with all sorts of crazy stuff. So if we do anything crazy tonight you’ll have to pinky swear with me not to tell anyone…

PART 2

So here is one of the things with me. And it has always been a really big pet peeve.
I work with computers, and I always knew I would be in a field where I could use that creative side to me but also technical. The only problem is that most of the people I work with come at it from a completely different angle.
They work to work, rather than work to accent a certain part of themselves.
Actually what is it that you do for work?

(she answers)

That’s kind of cool, it is actually like the same thing with me. You have the same passions and can over the line at times but you don’t really do it around everyone. But when you are comfortable around people you actually have no problem showing it.
I would even say that you have a lot of friends but you only have 2 or 3 really good ones that actually get to see your wild side.

So really now, tell me the truth, what is something that is totally out of your element that people don’t get from you?

(she answers)

Ok so I am still not sure about you… you’ve totally inspired me I have got to give you this test. Come here.

(isolate some more, away form friends)

Ok so again just the first thing that comes to mind here.
My friend actually asked me this thing when I had just broken up with my ex so my answer would probably be different now.
So just the first one that comes to mind…
So pick a number between one and four.

Alright, you got it?

So what did you pick?

(here is how you read the answers…
first you start out by saying what you number was and it needs to be different than yours.
So you say…)

So when I did it I picked X
And like I said I was just out of a relationship and so X means that I was hesitant to show people what I was like all the time. Like I actually would rather go out with a group of people and than by myself. I would rather have people lead than be independent.

But you being a Y, that is a bit different. You are actually your best self when you acting on your own. And more than your friends you can be really aggressive, but more internally than anything. Like I said you have this total wild side when you are allowed to feel it.
Like I wouldn’t even want to see what kind of crazy shit you have got in you closet at home, there’s probably all these crazy trophies from your ex boyfriend. I could totally see you as the girl that could intimidate most guys you meet.

So right now we will break.
Here this is a good lead into establishing Comfort while building up all your frames and generating attraction while doing it.

I will post the Breakdowns on Monday with the rest of the stuff, showing how to build off of those Frames and do so with Subpersonalities and really making their emotions invested in to how you are defining your interaction with them

But you see game can work for anybody, you just have got to voice it in the right way!

And as alway, let me know what you think
eltopoPUA@gmail.com

El Topo's qualification pattern posted by a random guy

So, he say do this as an opener, but I say it makes more sense to do this after you've isolated or are at least locked-in and talking to just 1 girl.

The basic structure is Qualify - Ground - Qualify - Frame

Qualify - "So this may sound kind of random, but you strike me as the kind of girl who attracts the wrong kind of guy a lot of the time"

Ground - "The reason I say that is because I've worked in the media industry and I find that a lot of people, especially high profile men or attractive women, get a lot of attention because of their outward image"

Qualify - "So do you ever find that you have a guy interested in you, but not for who you really are, just for your superficial qualities?"

Frame - "You know, just from your reaction I can tell that you get what I'm saying and it's cool that you're one of those girls who can talk openly about that kind of thing."

So, the basic idea is you take a concept like male-female interaction, attraction, gender roles, etc, and ask her a question that's a bit out there, maybe sexual, maybe a bit personal. You don't have to wait for her answer. You then ground the question with some personal experience, helping her get where you're coming from (and also DHV if you're coming from a value-based perspective, which Steve definitely isn't). Then you ask the question maybe in a different way, maybe making it a little easier to answer, or making it more sexual, etc. Then you either wait for her response if she gives one, or continue by framing the fact that she's considering her answer as an implicit indicator that she is comfortable talking with you and opening up to you. Again, the more sexual you can make the pattern, the better it is because the frame of "you're comfortable talking about sex with me" is only a few steps away from "you're comfortable HAVING sex with me."

Thoughts?

Yads observation of his daygame

I observed him and when you model someone you have to read their subcommunication first.

Sinn calls this backwards engineering, he models it and tried to reproduce it by breaking it down.

YAD DOES:

1-he mirrors the girl alot..- deren brown mirrors in his opening daygame example.
 automatic Rapport and controling her state.
2-he isnt into the whole bodylanguage of opening or how - he just opens and makes it casual and friendly.
3-he uses sexual frames in between the convo , in daygame he talks about
"how crazy would it be to make out in the middle of the day?" as a challeng to the girl and then prior ending the set after the number close he brigns it in again and escalates.

4- he has her invest in the conversation too, very good very good...he tried to handle timebridge -instadate damage control well by moving forward in the seduction eve though logistics is fucked.

5-he baits responses

6-He does something very intersting CJ talks about this I think, actually Topo talks in inifeld insider how CJ in the middle of the set satrs giving the girl  IOIs in terms of sexual state.
 I caught YAD doing this by escalting the IOI and him mirroring it and him touching his neck or his hair and the way looking at her...

this was the MINDFUCK of how he does it....knowing this is basically law of state transfer in RSD.
which is you can game  daygame or nightgame or anywhere if you know this !!!

badboy's 2 advices that make you really good....great tips on game and emotional calibration

is the advice of going out and make her night.....I used this when I got LMR and couldnt close , and used BT spiking to make her feel awesome and happy.. I was happy myself, this is awesome advice.

Neediness energy, forget seduction ...... this is important to project. My first sticking points were seeking rapport who SAFFRON detected. I credit him with this, once m,y subcommunicacion became non needy it created the girl to react to me.

also as a bonus.......

talk about her feelings the way she feels.....
this is crucial and he is vague about it but its the pillar of NLP and her stae and controlling her emotions..

you become the harp player, the pied piper to her emotions...
I use only humour and sexual  and confusion with some RSD Routines from TIM and RYAN's  verbal attraction..

I avoid talking about low or sad things ..maybe for door pattern but for tother stuff I dont, I disagree with TOPO on this..... I do use CJs heartmelters but only 1, also I dont over qualify, CJ uses 1 or 2 , I used one big one and cosmo routine so no need to talk alot..unless its revvelant to her personality and or conversation to deepend her incvesting or talking....conversational skills itself is included qualifiers.

YAD in his infield video doesnt qualify, saffron qualify as chalengeing after comfort and attraction..to get her chasing him....this i used to do alot. best way ...push pull : )


badboy He uses different emotions...I tried but not had success.

Text Game by El Topo - Part 1,Part 2 Part 3.1

This is ElTopo's Post on TEXT GAME. this I used before in text and in real life in isolation and in comfort, his talk and dialouge as well in his REDSTACK give a great example of calibration.

Sinn posted this in 2008-2009

This was posted on ET's blog but got largely ignored. I think it's gold. And not just because I'm mentioned in it. As someone who's seen ET's text game in person and the girls responses in real time he's good. He even helped me with some texting stuff in Orlando to get this girl to pick me up from the airport. Serious shit.




Check it...



The Text Game Part one.



This is one long post so I am breaking it down in a few parts.

I will get the rest of the posts up in the next few days.



Texting is something that about a year ago I realized the community didn’t have a lot of solid info on.



Now like all things, there is a lot of info on it, but not a lot of it I found was really useful.

There were some routines to get a response form someone, but none that built beyond that.

There are a lot of dynamics to text game, and I am known for the fairly aggressive style, but I practice a bunch of different forms and have friends who have a lot of different techniques on how to text as well. Hopefully this post will shed some light on that.



I will say that a lot of us actually game with text messaging as a pretty useful tool.

So it is a Tool of Game,

you can take a lot of short cuts with use of Text and IM, and then there are some other things that you can’t really make as effective in it. A good example would be, you can get very sexual with a girl over text in a fairly quickly, but you can’t really show too much of a human side with it either. You can’t penetrate deep 'comfort' emotions in text, you are mainly dealing with surface level emotions, hence the fantasy element.



Not the only way but a way to game.



What inspired this post was a few things.



The First was that someone texted a girl I had dated, “what’s up HOOKER!”. This text was kind of a joke that actually turned into many fruitful experiences, but the thing to point out about texting in such an offensive manner is not to belittle people, but to stimulate a response and have a then door to elicit sexuality.



The Second is that a few email blasts came into my email box saying that they had the Text Message Secrets. Now there is definitely good text material out there, but the series of texts they listed in this email (that was just released last week) was pathetic. I know the guys who wrote it, and they are super PUAs, but it once again opened my eyes to how some of the stuff put out there can be complete bullshit.



And the Third thing I would have to say is that I use text a lot, my friends use text a lot. We all do it a little different, but there is definitely a theoretical formula we follow.



So let’s begin here by saying Game is communication and orchestrating it to follow the direction that you want.

You are Socially Engineering interactions with people.

That includes it all, you can do this in a very Passive way that can be very influential, and you can do it in a Manipulative way. That is up to you. Game has been used and abused like a hooker’s pussy.



So the one thing to realize about any superficial communication is that is can fit a Fantasy World or can be given an Identity or Frame or Linked to a Subpersonality.

What I mean by superficial type of communication is communication that someone’s deeper emotions are not involved.

That includes Communication in any area of Attraction. And the more distanced it is from reality the better.



This way you bypass a lot of comfort and can get to seduction a lot faster than before. This is what Captain Jack did with frames, starting them early and then have him define an out come with less emotional investment. This is what I see when I read Brad P’s LRs (good product by the way), he would make his Attraction Game very Sexual, and made it fun allowing his targets to



So in person, face to face, that is the most ‘real’ you can get with someone. And it is harder to get them to accept a fantasy role in the early stages, or harder for them to accept a subpersonality role. However, the face to face meeting is what our over all goal, it is pretty hard to stick your dick in someone without this happening.



Over the phone, this is somewhat personal but much easier for someone to jump into a subpersonality or live out some extension of themselves. The main point here, is that because there is some detachment from interacting personally people will be more willing to step outside of their identity they convey when in public.



Over Email it can totally be done, but you have got to fish for it. You can’t immediately try and turn someone into a bleeding romantic, a sexually frustrated slut, or whatever your goal is. But you can get there pretty deep, pretty quick. In fact when I first started this was a big tool of mine. Very comfort based, and I still don’t know many people that have met someone for 10 mins and carried out an email conversation with them for a few weeks and then without talking over the phone was able to close them. This I did quite a bit last year consistently.



Over Chat or Text, what this post is about, is a really easy way to get someone to accept some passive role with you and very quickly build that momentum towards sex. The funny thing was that a lot of my friends in the community would not believe me when I would tell them about the texts that I would exchange with people. I would tell them about texts and they thought I was exaggerating. I thought this was a natural thing to do. It always made sense that you can be a totally freak over text.

I thought people did it all the time.



Then I met Levo and Doc Holiday and a few other people in the community that were doing stuff that I was doing. They were also being sexually aggressive in their Texts!

Also one of the books (Social Intelligence, by Daniel Goleman) I have always talked about as having pages and pages full of information relevant towards game mentioned a study about Instant Messenger Game.

If I wasn’t so lazy I would site the page it is on, but the general idea was that there were normal Teen/Young Adults that would have no leanings towards dysfunctional behavior, yet within minutes of Instant Messaging people they went sexual.



I just think that for guys like myself in the Community, we tend to over think how people can normally act. And escalation in Text can be normal. Now mix it with some strategy and you can make it one of your biggest weapons.



But was always doing this sort of thing naturally. I have always been some who could push things too far and recover so I did that in game and I did it in text too.



Although my PUA friends believed me in what I would text wanted to see proof. And they got it eventually.

I was with Sinn and Future in Chicago and we were finishing up workshop.

I started a text exchange with a girl and the value in this was that it was one long exchange. It didn’t happen over days, weeks, months, it went from me having her number sending a text and in an hour or so, she was masturbating (or so she said) while texting me back and forth.



The post is called “the Sexualized Text” I think I put it up in July or August of Last Year.



At this point people would constantly ask me about text, and when I was out they would ask me advice.

I would give it to them and sometimes it would work and other times it wouldn’t.

In fact one thing that Shaft says is that whenever he uses my texts, he gets no response. But what he started to point out was that there was a method to what I was doing.



Also at the time, Sinn and Future with their Break Through Comfort program had started adding a text aspect to it.

They would get girls in a whirlwind of “Hot Cold Texts”. And when we were looking at the consistencies in what we were all doing we were going “Hot Cold”



Now in this I want to breakdown a few different ways to Text.

There is stuff, I do, Sinn does, Captain Jack does, Shaft does, and little things I have picked up from other folks (PUAs and naturals).



There is a lot here, and it really is up to the other guys to breakdown their methods, I am just offering what I notice from observing these guys and how I have been able to replicate it.



Before we get to any sort of “Hot Cold”, we need to establish how we initiate the text.

It is not really an opener, but it contains the same sort of traits as an opener. Your initial text is supposed to stimulate attention back. It is supposed to elicit a response. It is not supposed to gain too much traction, mainly because it really can’t at that point. Like an opener it is just there to open communication.



You also need to realize that one of the best ways to text is text like a girl would. Careful placement of emoticons and capitalization work out well.



So here is the old standard that you can never really go wrong with when initialing text…



“Do you speak text … (name) ☺”



If you want you can be kind of quirky or funny with them, may sound stupid, but they work. Some quirkier ones might be…



“I just totally ate (or any other verb) the craziest thing, and in a really weird way it made me think of YOU! :P”



“I am sending you this text before I forget and tomorrow’s hangover kicks in, TEXT ME BACK WOMAN!”



“Right now I am in the bathroom, wondering if there is ever a beneficial way to write someone’s number on the wall. But it was awesome meeting you last night. :p”



“This is (insert name), text me something cool… ;P "



So now you have opened her up and where do you go from there?

Well what are your goals?

Are you trying to build a relationship with her? Are you trying to lay her as quick as possible? Are you trying to keep her around as a possible fuck buddy?

One thing that I am a big fan of, is that I will treat all the girls I pursue as SNLs. I want to go for the Lay as quick as possible. This is because it cuts out the completely unnecessary comfort that was once thought necessary in the community.

So what I am trying to do in my initial interactions is this-



-I am trying to split her personality. I want text to be a fantasy world with her.

-I want to gain compliance in the rhythm of how I am texting. For instance if I send texts that elicit an emotionally heated response, then I want to be the one cooling it down and turning it sexual.

-I want to get sexual. This is easier than you would think in text. I generally bait for it and it comes to the surface.

-I want them to facilitate a role, weather it is texting me back or performing some task that they are designated to they need to be dong something for me under my definition of them.

- I need to get them in an exchange that they can’t get out of. They emotionally isolate themselves with me through text, thus my interactions with them are a secret.



“Hot Cold”

This is kind of the original consistency we came up with, but it makes sense.

It is pure Attraction Game, and text is really Attraction Game that can be built into so many different realms. to sleep with you.



What this is, is simple. You send a text that carries one nice thing, and one teasing thing. This can go in further extremes, to something totally endearing and another totally repulsive. Like, “Just thinking about you ;)… would you get OUT of my HEAD!”

Why ‘Hot Cold’ works is because it gets a response and you are leading it. If you gain compliance over changing a anyone’s emotions you gain compliance over them. Humans are not logical, drama is a good thing when trying to speed along an interaction with women.

That is how Bait hook Reel Release and Push Pull work and this is push pull at its best. Here are a few examples of initial texts using “Hot Cold” in terms of an Opening Text… they do get better.

As you will see below, I have played around with putting the push before the pull and vise versa. No need to put that much thought in it. I give both examples. I think the lead out with the coldness may work better, but the main thing is that cat-like dynamic we are trying to portray.



“WTF I can’t believe you’re actually going home! I guess the after party will have to be going one without you”



“I am totally thinking about that (some detail about your interaction, like an odd article about their clothing)…You really shouldn’t tempt me creative minds can be trouble.”



“So today I totally ran into your twin! LOL! Except she was a good girl ☺!”



“You’re too much here…so what are up to tomorrow? ;P”



Now what is important here is not the examples specifically, but the nature of the dialogue. The two things at once, the beginnings of Hot Cold. The quicker you can become that guy she texts in her own world rather than that guy she texts that she politely responds to, if at all the better.



Escalating Hot Cold



Now one of the traps of any sort of Hot Cold interaction can be fucked up pretty easily.

It still works like a charm, but it can work like a charm in the wrong directions. So if you are using it to escalate than you need to know what direction you are going in. How it can go wrong is that is can add too much comfort and lead people towards relationships, and using Hot Cold to shape a relationship can be really out of control, cause if you play it how I do than you’ll frame the women to be totally dramatic.

So we want our Hot cold to go sexual and not emotional. To do that we need to start identifying their reactions and roles as sexual, this works out really well in text.



Here is a breakdown-

“Ok so you really think that!? Such a BAD girl…”

So the Cold (negative) part is “Ok so you really think that?” then the Hot (positive) part is “Such a BAD girl…”

Here her compliment is fitting her identity to be a positive one, but positive in a deviant way.

Now Game is something that is not really ‘making’ people do what they don’t want to do. Game is making the right situations come out and leading which way they grow. So we are not saying right off the bat, ‘you are a bad girl’. We are putting a very attractive stereotype out there and seeing if she accepts it. 8 out of 10 times she will.

Remember, we are just trying to help that sort of side come out of her.



So here are some examples of Text Exchanges Escalating Hot Cold-



PUA- “So I was just thinking…WTF did I do last night? Did I randomly text someone I shouldn’t have (don’t you hate that)…you came to mind ;) ”



Target- “LOL! No you’re safe here. No drunk texts.”



(So this is a weak response, but still a response. You want to actually get them invested, but it is your first text so no worries)



PUA- “So either you’re saving me from embarrassment or telling the truth. I like a girl that can keep a secret!”



Target- “I always tell the truth! So now you have got me wondering”



(this is a better response, she addressed both comments but still not too invested)



PUA- “Don’t press too hard WOMAN! Today has been totally crazy, I might SNAP!”



Target- “What? Snap???”



PUA- “Crazy stuff with a client of mine. But now it’s your job to make me feel better! But don’t get and crazy ideas I might not be able to handle it! ;)”



Target- “HA! ☺ Just what did you have in mind? I think I could give you a lot that you can’t handle. LOL”



PUA- “Now you’re giving me making me think of all sorts of crazy thoughts… ease up bad girl”



So what is happening here is using a hot cold dynamic to progress on in the exchange. One of the things here is that I am moving more towards a fantasy dynamic with the target and moving it to bring out a sexual subpersonality for them to fulfill.

But notice how the parts where I am saying things like, “don’t press too hard WOMAN! Today has been totally crazy, I might SNAP!”

I capitalize things like WOMAN! To get a bit of a rise out of her, and then I seed her to take on a position where I can give her a role to fulfill.



The next text I send then says, “but now it’s your job to make me feel better!”

This is something we will get into later, but it is something that Sinn does to gain compliance in a role in text to efficiently begin framing them, saves a lot of time in person with them.



The rest is still to come!
 
TOPO TEXT GAME PART 2
Text Game Part 2




So now we get how to open a text and one popular way to initiate a text dialog.

So let’s describe a few things around that.



I you haven’t read Part 1 of the Text Post go here!

http://the-red-mole.blogspot.com/2008/0 … art-1.html



Also find out more about Subpersonalitites in Shaft’s Post as well, cause I refer to the idea quite a bit.

http://the-red-mole.blogspot.com/2008/0 … ities.html



The reason why Hot Cold works so well, is because it is an element of Push Pull. I would like to do a post on changes made to models of game, but there are a lot of posts I would like to do…getting to it is the real feat! But surely I will get to it!



The reason why Push Pull is such an important part of game it because it is something that pretty much every human and animal is responsive to. It is almost like people can’t help but do it.

Now you can’t say something like ‘Hey, you sweet cunt whore, how’s your day going?’ that may piss some people off (but if you make it work…let me know). But what you want to do with each aspect of Hot Cold/Push Pull is get them to invest a little bit in it.



How we get people to invest is through Qualification, Baiting, Framing, Compliance, Dominance and Logistics.



So those are the things we are going to talk about in terms of text.

And again, I would like to do a post on my teaching method of breaking down your Tools of Game along with How to Implement those Tools, but again it will probably be a few weeks on that. It I could write as fast as I could think then my blog would be a goddamn encyclopedia! Should have taken a typing class!



So the important thing with text to think of is that it is only a small part of game. So your goals in text are to do a few things.

I always like to Bring out-

-A Subpersonality in it, and it is great for that.

-It is a good use of to begin Force Framing

-It is a great Calibration Tool

-Logistically I want to engage someone with some compliance, usually accepting roles or doing small tasks.

-Build Investment emotionally (now it is important to know text probably isn’t the tool to engage serious emotions, but more reactive and surface level ones. You need an orchestration of complete game to have it effect deep rooted emotions)

-And Logistically I want to set up a time to meet, with all those frames and subpersonalities to bring to the table.



So with that in mind, instead of saying, ‘You sweet cunt whore, how is your day going?’

You want to say things that your texts to follow some sort of path that will stimulate reaction to role into another text that will build a frame, to role into another one that will build compliance to your frame, that will role into one that will bait them into a subpersonality and all be fun and exciting to engage in.



You can hook a girl very easily to be that guy that she has a text war with on a daily basis. During debriefing I always ask women when they started to know they were going to sleep with me. If I have worked them through text they will always say something like, ‘I thought you were cool when we met (she might even say a little weird…hahahaha), but I really started to think about you in that way, when I would be at work thinking about what I was going to text you or when you were going to text me’.

So go figure, but it works, and even with text you can see yourself get sucked in with it too! Beware!



Using Bait in Text-



Although this is how to Bait using text, all of the ideas like Push Pull/Hot Cold, Baiting, Qualifying, Framing, Compliance, Dominance, and Logistics all kind fo work together. But in their subcategories I will mainly be highlighting the part which it is titled. In this case Baiting.



So the idea of Bait is a reactive one. It is something that is hardwired; people can’t help but respond to if done correctly.



So let’s start with some examples-



Shortly after the first few texts, maybe the second or third one in…



-‘So I am sitting in a waiting room, and I wonder if the people around me know what I am thinking about’



-‘Guess what I am thinking of right now, I just totally saw your twin and it set me off.’



-‘OMG the craziest thing just happened, I am totally in a weird head space right now’



-‘Even tho you like X , I still think you’re…well maybe not LOL’



-‘I am totally bored, don’t even TEMPT me with those thoughts! ☺’



-‘You have no what I just saw, you would totally LOVE it, in that sort of BAD girl sort of way…LOL!’



Ok so let’s take a look at these. Now some of them are doing a few things here.

The first one-

-‘So I am sitting in a waiting room, and I wonder if the people around me know what I am thinking about’

What you’re doing is trying to bait them into a simple question. One being, ‘where are you?’ or Two being, “What are you thinking about?’

For a while Sinn, Shaft and myself would always ask two questions, or give two things to respond to in our texts to calibrate. We don’t so much anymore, but it is a great tool to use. Now with either answer you can go somewhere.

But the one that shows she is more likely to quickly accept a frame over text is if she answers anything about what you are thinking. Reason why is because if she answers that she is curious about something that leaves a huge door open to.

An office space is pretty mundane, what someone thinks that might offend the ‘norm’ hanging out in the office can be something pretty interesting, well if you’re a PUA.



So if she says ‘Where are you?’ no big deal, you text back something like,

‘Trust me you don’t want to know, but these people are freaks! Totally your crowd ☺’

or

‘The funny thing is that, I am normally really into bizarro things, but I usually need a wing, next time I am bringing you! And you’ll never guess…’



So let’s take a look at a few more breakdowns…

-‘Guess what I am thinking of right now, I just totally saw your twin and it set me off.’

When I took my BC Sinn told me Future and him used the father text of this…’OMG I totally just saw your twin’ to calibrate how quickly a girl would reply. If she replied quick it meant you could begin with likely fruition on your text/phone journey.

So then we added a little more to it. Mainly because we wanted to see what she would reply too and our Bait was then more voiced to lead towards curiosity on what we are thinking. It may hook it may not. So in the first two texts a good thing to point out is asking two questions in the same text.

We will touch on that later.

But our Bait is always leading to a frame or subpersonality, or maybe even something else.



So it is best to get a response about ‘what you were thinking’ but you may get a response on the ‘twin’ part. The main thing is this will get a likely response. And you should probably use this text as a opener as well or the first text in a new exchange with someone you have been texting. It leads very well into some tactical conversations.



Replies to the twin part might be…

‘Yeah I was totally excited at first, but didn’t have that wicked side to here. LOL!’

‘And you should have SEEN the look on her face when I snuck up from behind, butt I think YOU could have handled it! HAHAHA!’



Replies to the thinking part might be…

‘All I got to say is….bad girl! LOL !!!!’

‘I was actually REALLY disturbed! I knew I remembered you…stay HOTT!’



So you get the idea with that. This would go on forever if I were to breakdown all of them, so let’s go to the next Implementation of the Tool…



Qualification in Text-



This is one that you can open a text conversation with, but to really use qualification you want to use it a bit later in the exchange, but it can be fairly impactive within 2 or 3 texts in.

But first let’s talk about Qualification.

So Qualification is a get way to get a lot of things. Lot’s of people go on and on about it and it is something that many discussions can be had about it.

Most of those discussions show its use in gaining investment in the group.

There is a great Audio Program out there that has Sinn and Vision going over Qualification. Most people say it is one of the best Audio Products out there. It is something that has a long history and has evolved quite a bit.



But here are its uses-

-Gain Value and Compliance (throughout your set) towards Value. Build investment essentially, through a ladder of Qualifiers or establish your value, to make her feel the need to invest her Emotions or work up to your Value.

-Calibrate where you are at in set. So it was said many a times by Future in many Seminar rooms (probably many other people too, but I can still hear Future saying it in my head) ‘Qualification is the Gateway to Rapport. This is because is was a good way to know you could enter Comfort and also it was a good way to transition into a Comfort base story. The funny thing is that Qualification is now used in Comfort (little bit of a different twist, but definitely Qualification, and it is the total LMR buster in Seduction. Qualification is thee way to Blast through LMR and is one of the Roots to the KFP.

-And the most neglected use of Qualification is that is defines where you go next in Set!

It is what you need to show which way you are going, and in Text this is important!

What I mean is let’s say you are talking about eating Bats in the Amazon your DHV story (and let me tell you I can go on and on about how misused DHV stories are in the community), and you want to transition out of it.

You can Qualify with,

‘So what is something you have done that made you know what your passions were?’

With that you can then talk about your passions and hers and all that stuff. Good for building bonds and many, many other things.



But let’s say instead you talk about eating Bats in the Amazon and transition out with…

‘So what’s the craziest thing you have ever done?’

No this can go a little more sexual… both can but with this you are using Bait to take the set somewhere into a more racy territory.



Both Qualifiers are good, neither one is better, depends on where you are in the set and where you want to go. And the Qualifier tells you where to go. That to me is a pretty important use to negate. So USE IT!



Some examples of text for qualification might be…



Opening Text with a Qualifier-



-‘So what is your favorite Karaoke song! ’



-‘So wait, you always pick up guys, when they are DRUNK!’



Again opening with a qualifier is pretty weak use of a qualifier, but be creative and fun with it and it will work.



A few Texts in-

Think about if they fall into one of your Baiting texts you can empower it with your Qualifier.



-‘Jezz! You really do have a WILD side don’t you?’



-‘What kind of girl are you…really? I mean you didn’t really put that off when I met you, but go figure! LOL’



-‘So you are really starting to make me wonder, who taught you your text etiquette?’



-‘I am not sure if I really know about you yet… are you one of those girls that doesn’t always play nice…’

So you can see from this that the qualifiers really do have somewhat of a Baiting element to them too. They are also the beginnings to Frames, Compliance and bringing out that subpersonality.



Remember Qualification is a tool to progress on in the right direction!



And that will take us to….



Compliance through Text



Now here will probably be one of the more rich parts of the post, because it will map out how you need to text (the flow of text or the rhythm). Compliance does a few things…

But at its fundamental it brings out repetition in the target working in a certain direction.

Normally I bring up Framing before Compliance, but I will lead with compliance here to better describe Framing later.

Normally compliance is just thought of as getting a girl to do something for you. This alone is super effective. In fact I remember on a Workshop in Hawaii, Tyler Durden spent about 20mins describing to a student what Compliance was, and this opened my eyes to a larger field of it. Also Shaft can talk, and I mean talk about the importance of Compliance in all forms of Game.



But other than getting someone to do tasks, you can build a Qualification ladder with Compliance, you can build frames with Baiting someone by making them Compliant to your interaction with them, you can make someone fulfill a narrative that brings out a Subpersonality through Compliance. Basically you can use Compliance to get someone to follow your lead.

Compliance is the fucking shit, so see it as not just getting someone to fulfill actions, but also to be made to interact with you in a specific way that helps Frame them into your Subpersonality.



My example will be an exchange with breakdown of what I am attempting to do through Text. Here goes….



PUA- ‘You won’t believe what just happened! You should have BEEN HERE!’

Target- ‘?’

PUA- ‘Really that is ALL you can write ‘?’ I thought you spoke text…lol, are you sitting down?’

Target- ‘Yeah, I am at work, WHAT HAPPENED, is that better? ☺’

PUA- ‘This chick just totally went crazy at the store, I thought, I wish (target’s name) was here.’

Target- ‘I don’t know if I would have wanted too, what did she do?’

PUA- ‘Yeah, I am not sure if you would have laughed or joined in…’

Target- ‘That depends what it was she was doing’

PUA- ‘I still am not sure…either you’d be all over it or ur one of those PG 13 girls’

Target- ‘Wouldn’t you like to know?’

PUA- ‘That says it ALL right there! ’

Target- ‘OMG, you are totally crazy… You might not want to know! :p’

PUA- ‘ME totally Crazy! F U!’

Target- ‘YES! And F U too ☺’

PUA- ‘That is sweet, but now you’re are totally making me wonder and now U won’t want to know… ’

Target ‘You couldn’t even imagine’

PUA- ‘Seriously, I have to drive now, so take it easy on me, you wouldn’t want to cause an accident now would you???’

Target- ‘Accident? That might be fun, good thing I am not there! Lol!’

PUA- ‘So now I am totally bored, entertain me… are you at work?’

Target- ‘Yes’

PUA- ‘And what are you doing?’

Target- ‘I am sitting at my desk answering my boss’ emails’

PUA- ‘Woman… really, I though you spoke text…how are you going to make me crash with THAT!’

Target- ‘HA! I thought I was PG 13’

PUA- ‘Ahh, we proved that you only are when you’re at the club, but at work I know what REALLY goes on!’

Target- ‘So dirty?’

PUA- ‘Actually it is one of the worst places that my mind wanders, just think if I was at work, my imagination would be corrupted even MORE by U! ’

Target- ‘You are a trip, I think you’re corrupting me!’

PUA- ‘Good cause later I may need your help, I have a crazy meeting I have to attend ☹…’

Target- ‘HA! We will see…’

PUA- Stop with that ‘we will see’ crap, you’re totally my text BITCH! Lol!’

Target- ‘Ahhh Text BITCH… couldn’t you come up with something else.’

PUA- ‘Yeah but, text me BACK….BITCH! by the way I am almost back and still no crash…’

Target- ‘CRASH BITCH!’

PUA- ‘You’re supposed to make me do that in another way…come on GET TO WORK!’

Target- ‘You’re too much. I can’t handle you…’

PUA- ‘That is what I thought! Lol. No really, what are you doing later, I will need someone to perk me up in a few hours.’

Target- ‘Why are you asking I thought I was your BITCH! Hahaha!’

PUA- ‘Jezz UR having way too much fun, maybe I should give you a whip so you can step it up’

Target- ‘I like whips’

PUA- ‘And I do too, but I don’t use them, I prefer using my hand!’

Target- ‘Now that depends, when and where…’

PUA- ‘Really, I think that you know WHEN and WHERE, unless you’re really more creative than me… and then I don’t want to know’

Target- ‘ That’s right BITCH!’

PUA- ‘Look woman, talk all you want, but I will turn you inside and out’

Target- ‘I am waiting…’

PUA- ‘And be waiting with a wheelchair cause you might need it’

Target- ‘LOL!’



Ok so this is a pretty common exchange.

No what you see in the first part of this, is a lot of baiting toward sex using really fun attitude. Text game is all Attraction being used as a door to open up different parts of her. This particular girl was not biting at first but still going along with it. This always suck, but if she is at least somewhat entertaining your ideas you can still press on very lightly.

You always want her following your lead.

The whole time I am leading the interaction, and the whole time I am reframing her replies to what I want to see them as.

The more I can get her to follow my path of the narrative, the more I make her Compliant.

And the reason why I chose this exchange was because it took her a while to warm up and it was done without any breaks in the text, it all took place over one day.



So now I text saying, ‘BITCH I am bored TEXT BACK!’ and she does.

You can also see the slow escalation of her turning more towards me. Eventually she does but it wasn’t immediate. The thing is that once they walk through enough of your doors (along with it being a fun interaction) they will ultimately continue on.

Compliance is something that can build your whole foundation to game.



For now that is all…



Part 3 will be on Framing, Dominance, Logistics

And it will go over some of my buddies personal theories on Text cause you have heard enough of MINE!!!!



But really they are good. Guys like Shaft, Sinn, Fidelio and Captain Jack all have very unique was to text. Still doing a lot of the same types of things, like Qualifying and Baiting, using Frames and Compliance, but they do it in their own effective and Unique ways. They are for the most part available online, but you have got to give credit where credit is due!
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PART 3
Text Game Part 3.1


Compliance and Framing



This is the 3erd part of Text Game-



There are 3 distinct parts to Part 3 of Text Message Game (Framing and Compliance, Dominance and Logistics). This is the first, and it is more Attraction Based, you can try this stuff RIGHT NOW and it is Easy to get a Rhythm for it.

It is all based on gaining Frames through Compliance.



I would say go out and practice this stuff, cause the Dominance and Logistics parts are VERY different and less playful. That being said, if you can get how to use this technique you will find gaining Dominance and Logistics much easier to accomplish.



It is about a year late…but at this point I could probably write a lot more on Text Game but we will save it for the PDF.



In any case, there is a lot of info out on Text Game now and by all means, mine is not the best…but I will say there is a TON of very disappointing Text Message Game products. In fact that was the reason for the post in the first place.



I got a Mass Email from a Major PU Company that had some “Text Message Secrets” and they sucked. It was the biggest piece of shit I had read.



So in this 3erd Part I want to show that some really in depth concepts with examples that one can do during text.



If you want to see the other 2 parts of this article you can see them

Here-

PART 1 of Text Message Game

PART 2 of Text Message Game



With Text messaging you will find that most people don’t take it to its fullest advantage. I actually would rather Text Message than talk on the phone. I would actually rather IM (Instant Message) than talk on the phone. I might actually rather Text Message than meeting up in person



So this being Part 3, I will have to say this will be a huge Hurdle in terms of Texting Information.

It is still a lot of the same theory, but they go deeper.

Previously we talked about,

Baiting and Opening through Text, Push Pull (or Hot Cold through text), Working in Sexuality through Push Pull, and Compliance.



So what I am going to talk about now are more of those things and also Framing, Dominance, and Logistics.



I am also going to talk about different techniques that other PUAs I know use.



COMPLIANCE and FRAMING



The two of these really go hand in hand. Compliance is HUGE! Text is such a quick thing, people text many times a day. Many people send over 100 a day, and some more than that. Either way, Text is reactive. So it sets up the perfect ground to gain quick Compliance. Then we want to add some Framing to that too.



So let’s start off with telling a story of some Evolutions…

The first Evolution I am going to mention comes from one of my friends…actually a student, someone whose couch I slept on many nights while traveling around and teaching in his area. This guy was always paying attention on how sexual I would get, and how sexual I would talk to women.

He is NOT your normal PUA, he is someone who is an Entrepreneur and doesn’t have time to dress up and go out to clubs all the time, wearing goggles and flashy hats. So his platform for gaming is at his house while he is working.



So he started IMing people on Facebook, Myspace and through the many other venues of Instant Message. When he was multitasking through business ventures he would check some tings online.

One time when I was at his house a girl was there and the house was pristine. She had completely cleaned it, she had been there for a few weeks. He met her online, and he through Instant Messenger.

I talked with her quite a bit. She told me that she never goes to bars, but she will date someone she meets online. This is a little hint for all you Online Gamers, it is like 10 times easier to do online game (if you know some simple tricks), and again this is a field where people don’t have much quality information on.

Women…HOT women, are on all the Dating sites…also with a poor economy and depression at a high, people are bored and want more human connections.

There is a reason why Match.com and the rest of them do better in bad economies. People are bored and people are lonely these days, and at home they let their other sides come out. IM and Text messaging are virtually the same in this respect.



So then next time I went to this guys house, he had told me how he started gaming celebrities online. Here is what interested me….

I thought to myself, “I am a PUA instructor (according to some a “Junior Instructor”), everyone talks about Celebrities and Models and all those other instructors (or maybe I should say, “Senior Instructors”) never really get Celebrities or real Models (Girls you meet on sugardaddy.com don’t count as models, they count as gold diggers). And this guy is gaming all these celebrities and getting them all sexually worked up over Instant Messager?”



So how the fuck did he do it? And YES he closed them…



There isn’t nythign special about his profile, him looking like your typical single guy Entrepreneur in a bad shit standing and smiling. There are some blurbs about how ‘driven’ he is and that is about it. In fact, let’s just say (for honesty’s sake) his pages are boring and a slap in the face to the old DHV.



What he did was he would see them online and send them some Attraction based messages…normally they are not the ones on the site, but when they would be sometimes they would reply. Now here is the thing, don’t get obsessed with spamming out tons of Famous people here, do it like he did, he would ad someone as a friend and he would send them an IM as he did it.



How he got one of them was like this…

He had just friended her on Myspace and saw she was on Facebook too (or vise versa), he IM’d her saying something like, “I just added you on Myspace…hurry up and make me your friend, then we can be friends on both of them”

She responded back, and thus resulted in a very long IM dialogue that went very sexual. She became totally OBSESSED with him and Yes…he closed her.



I have gotta ask his permission, but maybe he will let me post the threads if I take all the personal shit out.



The key to all this is he BAITS for Sexuality and Immediately makes the COMPLIANT in it. This is something I always do with Text and more often then not IT WORKS!

All those same Push Pull techniques I work for sexuality. Sometime I don’t get an open door and other times I do. Either way I will always keep texting.

When making someone COMPLIANT in texting you need to make them COMPLIANT towards a Frame.



So make those Frames-

Sexually Free, Open-minded, Leader, Discreet, and Responsible and you will immediately have an advantage.



There’s a whole bunch that can be said for these, but they are all good healthy stereotypes for a woman, and they will help you bring out that Sexually Free side to her.

Also you want to get these Identities off the table with her early because they are actually things that make a relationship easier. By this I mean that the roles between man and woman need to have a definition…either the Dick owns the Pussy or the Pussy owns the Dick…if neither is determined then you’re going to be in a pile of shit relationship even if you’re not going for a relationship, it will fuck up all over the place. Establish it from the start exactly who is in charge.



So we want to build a Rhythm with our Text conversations where our targets are COMPLIANT in the Frames we are trying to set.



Here is an Example from opening to Gaining Compliance in each Frame-



“Hey it is (name) who just met you, what is a good line to say to the bathroom attendant…I am really hard up… ☺”



In the first Text I always go with some Humor, but some guys don’t…but we will talk about that later when we cover Logistics. Also I leave a little humor towards sexuality.



She responds with something like…

“OMG, you’re so crazy…it was nice meeting you too”

“Hey, it was nice meeting you”

“I think you should walk into the bathroom and ask him for help LOL”



So the First Example she gives you an opening with the “crazy” line you can start seeding with that. ‘Crazy’ turns into sexual really easy.

In the Second Example she give you very little to go off of, but she is texting back so that is good.

In the Third Example she is adds some humor on the dark side of things, here you can really go off on her.



In the Logistics portion we will go over this more, but you don’t want to entertain too much humor with Seduction, because it doesn’t bond it to a part of their personality. You need to Sexualize Them, not dance around it with a jokes. Humor is just a way to get them COMPLIANT in it. It doesn’t make it work it just helps it.



So let’s say she responds to the poorest example, “Hey, it was nice meeting you”



I would say you need to take this and turn it into something you can make work, I would try for a doorway to sexuality again…

“You know what I liked best about you, I can’t say over text…but for now Nice meeting you too”



Here I am trying to Bait into getting her to ask what that is…

Now a funny thing, my beloved Caribbean Queen always says I am a pussy for baiting too much, she always tells me… “all women are dirty perverts and you need to tell them that rather than do all this baiting bullshit”.

Maybe I am not as Alpha as her, but for now, use Bait…it works.

And with this you should get a response something like this…



“What does that mean?”



This is good, you probably will get more than that, but that is the response you’re looking for, a Push Back.



So I would reply to that…



“Well I have a pretty crazy mind sometimes, but you’re pretty open-minded right? Plus you like gossip, in all the right ways of course.”



Here’s what I am doing is I am saying I am pretty crazy minded (can translate to something sexual pretty easily) and I am trying to get her COMPLIANT in being ‘open-minded’ (this always works), then I am putting out there in the 3erd line that she has a gossipy side to her (also can translate to sex if she takes this thread).



So let’s say she responds to one of them, hopefully she will respond to more but we will take the challenge with this one.



“Open-minded, yes…just what do you mean by that?



It would be better if she bit at the other ones, but now you have got her COMPLIANT in one of the Frames. Now you have got to take that and get her COMPLIANT in some of the other Frames.



“I get the feeling you can really piss people off with your first impression, not me cause I think that we are alike in too many ways…I bet you have a twisted sense of humor”



So this is some classic push pull teasing with the “first impressions” thing and then you recover with aligning it to you. At the end you do a force frame or cold read with stating she has a ‘twisted sense of humor’.



This should yield a more favorable response.

She should play to one of the cold reads and go in a more Comfort mode.



“I am not sure what you mean, but I can have that side to me”



If she accepts here, then you’re good. Then you just need to implement the other Frames like listed below this paragraph. But if she doesn’t you will need to Dismiss her a little and pull her back in with something like, “I guess I had you wrong…but I like the attitude.”



Now if she does step through the hoops then go for something more in-depth with her personality.



“Good, I am the type of person that only gets along with certain types of people, I like people who have their shit together…you’re the type that knows how to let it go too”



This sort of text doesn’t seem to elicit a response, but it will. Since she finally accepted the role you have a pretty large window where you can slip some Cold Reads and Frames in (we will talk more of this in the Dominance portion).

She will probably respond taking the compliment. This is another act of COMPLIANCE.



“I know how to have my fun”



The real technique here is when she keeps walking through hoops like this you need to take her answers and turn them towards Frames using the same rhythm and bait. For instance…



“I don’t want to know what your idea of fun is…but mine might actually scare you off, are you trustworthy?”



The above is using Bait and Framing at the same time. In the above there are 3 separate things she can address. You don’t necessarily need to have all those, but for the purpose of giving an example I wrote 3. You could have just said, ‘I don’t want to know what your idea of fun is…’ and she would play back. That is somewhat of a passive approach to hooking her. I say passive cause she can bit of she can avoid it. It is not reactive enough. The second two “Mine might scare you off” and “are you trustworthy” hit two much more reactive parts to a girl or any person really.



If she responds to ‘mine might scare you off’ this means she is most likely competitive sexually. With that you can really work her hard into a Frame. When we get into the Dominance stuff, you can do some real damage.

If she responds to being trustworthy she is hitting 2 Frames. The first being one being Responsible and the other being she can be Discreet.



Here are a couple threads that you can have as ‘canned’ text material that work a ladder up to a Framing Sequence and Gain Compliance. If you can get someone in a Compliant Rhythm then you can pretty much sit on Autopilot, and if you can work Framing in there too then you just need to work Logistics.



Framing and Compliance Sequences



Text Openers (for a Baiting style)

-”You’re not going to believe this, but I just went to the bathroom…wait you’re not religious are you?”

-”This is (Name), I met you tonight and just to let you know I am not that kind of guy, but nice try.”

-”This is you’re new text friend, text me back something bad”

-”I am just had the strangest thing happen with this girl, by the way this is (Name), but don’t judge.”

-”This is (Name), I like you, text me back. (this may seem to simple, but it works)



Baiting to elicit a part of her personality

-”I only get along with creative people, but I am afraid you might be too creative for me” (you can pick any leveraging characteristic)

-”I can’t believe you’re gone, do you always have this effect on men…the leaving too early part I mean.”

-”There is no clean up for you, what kind of a girl are you?”

-”Ok now I am confused, you do what for work again?”

-”You’re trouble, but I mean that in the best possible way”

-”You think too much and I don’t want to know what about”



Frames

-”You get off on teasing people”

-”I think you must be someone who takes things too far sometimes. I like that about you.”

-”You’re almost too crazy for me, it may not have been a good thing getting your number”

-”You like being all dominant to men, I can’t believe I am actually talking to you”

-”If I didn’t understand you, I’d say you need therapy”

-”You are so someone who gets intimidated by people you like, but gets off on intimidating easy targets”

-”I am not sure if you are shy or completely over the top…probably a mix of both”

-”You’re a free thinker that is good, but out of control too”



Making them Compliant in the Frames

-”What is it about you that makes get off on messing with guys”

-”Are you really someone who, thinks that way? Are you someone that most people misinterpret?

-”What makes you like someone? Cause I think the thing that people notice about you, is not what you might think”

-”Do you attract the wrong people sometimes? I bet you can push the right people away”

-”How do you think you make people feel when you first meet them.”

-”Do you think you’re more personality or more appearance”

-”I know you are someone who can be all over the place, but are you someone who is gets what you want”


SEXUALIZED TEXT BONUS by EL TOPO

There are a few warnings and descriptions I am going to have to go through before I post some of this stuff.




Number one- posting this stuff in public is kind of a risk, but the truth is that I have gotten a lot of requests for it and I feel there is something that can be learned of it.

Number two- one of the reasons why this is so important is because the model of it is more complex than just vulgar or lewd. It is communicating on multiple levels with a woman.

Number three- This form of communication pushes it. You can always push your way in verbally, to instigate physically. But mainly one you have got someone to fit in the role ou want them in, it is fairly easy to get them back there.



Despite how over the top all this is the psychology involved in it should not be over looked.



Also the main thing I am working on now is taking my body language to a new level. I am working on reading (calibrating) my own sub communication receptors as well as communicating more with what I am putting off.

Using the right balance of normal social interaction as well as passive social interactions, like giving off body language that might imply sexuality is hugely effective.

Now this doesn’t mean you walk around grabbing yourself, it really is subtler than that. It takes practice. I need a lot more practice at it, but within the PUA community I am quite good at it. I will list some resources with this a little bit later when I have it down comfortably.



So in all of this I am going to post about a text message exchange that I had with a girl I have since closed.

I am very comfortable when I number close a girl that I will close her. I will try and go for the lay that night, but if it doesn’t happen that’s fine.

There may be logistical problems, outside obstacles, or she may not be ready. Either way if I get some rapport and a number I am fine.

Even an email address, I can pull it off.



So far I have closed 8 girls in the past 3 months with only texting or emailing them. I only talked to them on the phone right before we actually met again.

This example in particular is great because the whole text exchange happened in one day.



Here is how and why it works.

This to me is the most important thing.

The reason why this is effective, is because you are creating different roles for a person to communicate through. Here there is a huge fantasy area. But in any social interaction there are multiple things being communicated even when the intent is to only communicate one thing. So in a normal interaction between a PUA and a Target there is your basic Attraction stuff everyone knows about. Attraction is vitally important, but people obsess about it.

It is a part of the puzzle, but not the only part. Attraction can be very passive.

Now in that interaction you can be communicating with what you are saying and obviously doing, but there is much more going on with that.

The difference we see in boot camps where a student gets blown out and no more than 10 seconds later and instructor goes in and can open the set and hold it using the exact same opener, has to do with all that other stuff they are not so obviously doing.

The key is, that everybody has thoughts of sex, hate, love, pain, there is not too much diversity to the range of human emotions.

In fact I think it is something like; happy, mad, sad, hurt, afraid, ashamed… I may be missing one.

So there is always something like that to relate with.

But someone who is good at influencing people can work multiple things at once.

That is how this text works.

It breaks social etiquette, but that is because there is more leeway in the written form. Especially a written form that is so superficial as texting.

But let’s say the PUA is there with his Target.

You have got to maintain that social identity of the target, by maintaining etiquette, but also pulling out those other identities on the target. Ones that might be more comfort bound, and others that might be more sexually bound.



This is really hard stuff to explain in just a blog.

But as I have said before

email me…



el.topo.el@gmail.com



We offer very affordable routine stack consultations, even customized routine stacks, and probably the most common thing is a phone consultation.



Either way there is more to this text thing than just being a pervert, although that helps. And there is more than your routines than making them present a false self to a girl.

What myself Captain Jack, Sinn and Future teach is how to game. And how to game like us.

And we teach you to do it in a way that highlights you!





Text Dialog from a few months ago…



So I am sitting in my Hotel room on Boot Camp and I am bored.

Sinn has always asked me about my odd phone/text methods and I have never recorded what actually took place. I would explain it, but could never really break it down well.

So here I am in Chicago, and a girl who I know from photography texts me. I don’t know her well. Haven’t had anything sexual with her ever. She’s a model and I know her through friends who I have shot.

Last week I closed a girl in Scottsdale with this same type of thing. She flew out from CA to ‘visit her friend’. But the whole time she spent time with me in my hotel room (sorry Captain Jack).

Basically here’s the deal, you are friends with a girl and you play a flirty sexual game with them.

Note how this dialog starts, just friendly. Then I add in a little sex, and she takes it and runs with it.

Once she opens the door I walk in big time.

The whole time I am framing her to be ‘my naughty girl’. No big deal, but I am push it.

The thing with pushing a bit too far, is because if you have rapport, if you have humanized yourself with someone, you can almost always recover.

And then I drop the major sex description.

Then I put her in a role.

Then I make her WORK for that role to add investment to the identity.

And always maintain the frame of her having to play MY game!



The funny thing is that this happened while sitting in my Hotel room, then getting ready to do the field part of the BC, and then during the intense sex part while in the cab with Future and Sinn on the way to the venue.

And then I ended it while at the bar in set.



Kinda funny, but here’s the entire unedited dialog. Just know you can push it!

But be careful, I am very good at this. And this is an extreme example of what I do. So take it easy with your texts, don’t push it too hard, just a little at a time.



AT HOTEL!

HB Model- Hey, when are you coming here

El Topo- Sorry I am laid up in a hospital bed

HB Model- What?!

El Topo- I have mercury poisoning and am stuck in a bed in AZ.

HBM- PERFECT that’s just how I like my men

ET- Don’t tease me I am totally sexually deprived, fuck you.

HBM- I too am Sex deprived. Too bad We’re not closer.

ET- You had to keep going…now I am going to have to think of you as I touch my cock.

HBM- WOW! How’s that for being honest!

ET- Fuck you

HBM- FUCK ME?

ET- Yes! HOOKER…FUCK ME!

HBM- You’d like that. I am sure.

ET- Listen here HOOKER! Shot the fuck up, I am trying to get off!

HBM- Fuck you HOOKER TEXT Back!

ET- I will pound your ass woman! Shut the fuck UP!

HBM- Not into the whole ‘ass’ thing. But don’t make promises you can’t keep.

ET – You god damn HOOKER, don’t make challenges you can’t keep BIATCH

HBM- Don’t use the lord’s name in vain.

ET – Fuck you, I am a demon sex motherfucker, I will send your pussy to HELL

HBM- I am already in HELL. LOL

ET- Hell is nothing in comparison as to what I am going to do to you HOOKER!

HBM- WOW! What are you gonna do?

ET- Shut the fuck UP! You god damn HOOKER. Know your place!

HBM- I’m about to take a shower. So gimme some visuals.

HBM- I SAID VISUALS

ET- I am going to put you on all fours bitch and take you from behind. As I am shoving my fat cock into your tight pussy I am going to spit on your asshole, and prepare it for my cock. But before that I am going to grab the back of your hair and force my cock into your mouth and make you suck yourself off of me.

ET- Then after I am done with your mouth, I am going to throw you on your back and get on top of you. I will throw your legs back and go deep. I am not going to fuck you like those other guys. I am going to drive my cock all the way in till it tears past your cervix into your womb. The ridge of my raging cock will scrape against the wrinkles in your cunt. I will drive my dick around all of it. I will hit all your spots as my cock tastes every bit of your thick juices.

HBM- HOLY SHIT! No One could duet accuse you of being Shy! Christ. You just made me Blush. That never happens. ☺

HBM- Are you coming yet?



GETTING READY TO GO OUT



ET- You never get fucked that way dirty girl, do you.

HBM-You have NO Idea.

ET- I am not done yet, fuck you! It is now your turn to send me visual. You fucking HOOKER.

HBM- Anyways. Lets See If we bring some relief to my little sexually deprived sex demon.

ET- That’s not good enough BITCH, make my dick as wet as your pussy HOOKER!

HBM- Your hand still works right? Your hand can still get hard right?

ET- I have a hard cock and a hand but, that’s not what I told you to do. I want your fucking pussy to make me HARD!

HBM- So you can come! Let’s do it.

ET- Get to work HOOKER. You need to learn to talk dirty, or I’m not going to allow you to finish me off. You wanna make my cock come. You wanna make this cock yours…

HBM- Maybe ☺

ET- Fuck off…you’re awesome babe, but if you’re not gonna play I got to go.

HBM- Well… We’d have to definitely start out with you in my mouth. Slowly. I’d work my Tongue Around your head. Move Slowly towards the shaft. Until your entire Cock is in my mouth.

ET- and…

HBM- I’d repeat. Several times. But you can’t come like that. Not in my mouth. So just before you are about to come I’d remove my panties.

ET- Keep gong bitch, I have to shower soon.

HBM- Get off in the shower? I am getting off right her in my bed with you. Do you want Me to Stop?

ET- keep going, you owe me more…tell me about your little pussy

HBM- It feels so FUCKING GOOD. I’d ride You so hard. Pushing you farther inside me.

My pussy continuing to get wetter and wetter. Making it easier for you to slide in and out of me.

ET- Come on dirty girl, I know you can be naughty with me.

HBM- I’d Tie Your wrists to the bed post. Then I’d tie your ankles to the bed. Then I’d slide my soft Wet pussy Across your lips while reaching back to slowly stroke your cock. And tickle your balls.

Then I’d slowly turn around and gently guide your Cock Into Me From behind. Your chest against my back.

You lips close to my Ear so I can hear what you have to say to Me.

ET- You know I would put you in your place and make you do all sorts of bad girl things. I like to talk dirty, and I like you to be dirty to me.

HBM- How do I feel?

ET- When did you start thinking about me like this. How long have you been imagining my cock.

HBM- Send me a pic of what you’re doing right now.

ET- I can feel your sweat on your thighs as my shaft slides in and you of you. Your wet pussy is dripping down my balls to your asshole, you’re dripping more and more.

My cock is raging, you can feel my purple onion ready to burst inside your pussy. My head is getting fatter and fatter. What are you gonna do to make your cock cum baby?

HBM- I won’t let you come till I’m ready.

ET- Tell me love, tell me how you’re going to do it.



MEETING SINN AND FUTURE



HBM- I want to feel your Tongue Inside Me. That’s my favorite.

ET- You want me to suck you, I don’t think you’ve sucked me enough yet. First I would have to lick up all of your juices so I can actually feel your lips. Your pussy is so wet and ripe.

HBM- Keep going.



IN CAB WITH SINN AND FUTURE



ET- I am done, I want to cum HOOKER! You want my cock to CUM?

HBM- too much work, Typical. Whatever

ET- Shut the fuck up little girl, you don’t tell me what to do if I want you on your back that’s what you do. If I want you on all fours that’s what you do. I fuck you how I want to fuck you. And you don’t et fucked any better than me whore! Who makes your pussy this wet? Who’s cock can hold out this long with how tight you’re getting?

HBM- Are you gonna come for me?

ET- You have to earn my cum you fucking dirty girl. I dominate your CUNT, I need you to be really dirty for a little while in order to make me cum.

HBM- Fuck ME Easy the HARD!

ET- No you need to be real dirty, baby. You need to clinch up on me. You need to seize on my cock. You need to make my head pulsate bulging bigger and bigger in your pink little hole.

HBM- I’m gonna COME!

ET- I don’t want you to cum yet baby, I want you to come really hard for me , I need to feel your pussy drip all down my balls.

HBM- I will be good I promise, I am gonna come, what are you gonna do to me.

ET- Fuck you take your fucking hands off your pussy.

HBM- I came, I came so hard for you.

ET- What did I say! I am done. I will finish myself off elsewhere. Bye

HBM- No I don’t want to leave you High and Dry!

ET- Then you know what you have to do. You have to do what I say, you’re gonna have to be naughty for me. Real naughty.

HBM- Even better, how do I be your naughty girl?

ET- I just pounded your ass, now you have to pound mine you DIRTY CUNT WHORE! Now you dominate me, you fucking DIRTY BITCH!

HBM- You want me that way… I’d tie your wrists to the bed post. Then I’d tie your ankle to the bed, then I’d slide my soft wet pussy across your lips.

ET- Fuck you whore I already heard that one.



AT VENUE



HBM- How do I be dirty for you, babe?

ET- You’ve got to rack my shit like a nasty fucking WHORE! I want you to get dirty like a nasty nasty girl.

HBM- That’s how you want me?

ET- Can you be that way, or do I need to text someone else.

HBM- I can be, I can be dirty for you.

ET- You need to do things for me I like, you need to do things you don’t normally do for other guys.

HBM- You wanna fuck my ass?

ET- Now you’re getting somewhere, I need you to violate me, and I need to violate you.

HBM- My pussy is still wet do you want me to get my ass wet with my pussy?

ET- Keep talking you’re making my cock rage!

HBM- Yeah is fucking my tight ass making you come! You like me from behind, fucking my ass?

ET- You fucking bitch, fuck my cock with your ass. You’re gonna make me CUM!

HBM- Come for me baby.

ET- Suck your ass off my cock!

HBM- Wat?

ET –You heard me! Suck your ass off my cock you dirty girl!

HBM- Stick it in my mouth, stick it my mouth.

ET- Say it whore, say it. Tell me you want to suck yourself off me! SAY IT, Make me CUM!



IN SET AT BAR



HBM- I want it I want your COME. Take it out of my ass and give me your come.

ET- I just shot my load so hard, baby. I just came so hard.

HBM- Did you come for me?

ET- I need to go babe, I am falling asleep. You wore my ass out.

HBM- But I want you here next to me.

ET- I can’t do that baby, I am tired and need to get some rest.

HBM- But I want to hold you next to me while I fall asleep.

ET- I am sorry babe, that’s not what I am here for.

HBM- Good night , call you tomorrow K ☺


Give this to your psychologist and let me know what they think…