failed 3am best review breakdown by LA TRIPP and FRANCO

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 3:56 AM, sandy wrote:

Hey Tripp, let me know if we could talk this week man, cool.

It has to do with different topics...
please read this FR cause I was abit tipsy when I wrote it.
Im fucking up with fast seductions man, and I need your help. WWYD?
Fast is all about amping up the ATTRACTION fast and enough comfort to keep her with you. This includes a lot of kino, escalated from almost none to quite a bit.

Lets talk soon bro,



FR

I was in bar 3am and one girl and ALL chodes hovering and
I approached went ok made mistakes buying drink to try to lock in
Yes, definitely a bad move. You've just been slotted with every other chode/AFC.
we took shots I did takeaways and locked in it looked l like she was gaming,then she said she was looking for the bartender that told her that he wanted to fuck her in a direct way....She siad guys being direct turned her on
Apparently you managed to show enough interest to still build some attraction in her. She was blatantly telling you what you needed to do to fuck her. So, you could have fucked her.
.....I was like that sounds cool but he isnt here tonight ...:)

Not too bad for a response. You should've shown your value a bit more though, with something like, "You don't need him, I'm the man tonight." Saying tonight or even for the night shows you aren't looking for something permanent, because likely she wasn't either.
she said she wasnt happy and unemployed.

She wasn't happy. You could've made her happy. The unemployed thing didn't need to be responded to.
I DIDNT KNOW HOW TO RESPOND WO COMING OFF TOO SUBSERVIANT and TURN IT INTO A POSITIVE THING

LOL, well there you go.

so I just said" Im student now so its kidah hard on myself too ,just waiting to finish"

Yeah . . . bad choice, lol.

as I went into asking if she read cosmo to transition to transition into sex talk she says NO! and she is more of GQ girl and grew up with liking guys stuff... I DIDNT KNOW HOW TO RECOVER !

"Oh, so you're a tomboy, eh?" Likely she would've agreed. "So, you like to play in the dirt . . . and get rough." Right there transitions into sex talk.

I said Im going to restroom be back and she said she go out for a smoke..

Yeah, bad move. lol.

I came back and chodes were surrounding her.. CHODE LEERING and PEERING

Of course, as they always do when the girl is hot.

I intro myself and they left play pool...for now ...but they keep looking over in spectator mode.

Your value was lost.


since I noticed her IOI another guy chode amogs
to spike her BT I took out my fake 80's DG sunglasses and put it on her
and seed the timebridge with friend and afterhours,
"I want you to come with me it will be fun", she said no I cant I live nearby and I m just hanging out ..... ( yeah hanging out at 3am
what are you talking about?!)

Because you had lost your value in her eyes/mind.

THE AMOG SCENE : then I fluff talk but she kept looking around and "whsperer amog" comes to side he doesnt know her, whisperes in her ear she looks at me and she laughs and looks at him... I then interupt and introduce myslef ..he doesnt comply and walks off but keeps looking at her while he is playing darts ...

So your value, at this moment, was higher than his. She had more interest in you. But, your value still isn't high enough since she's not focused on you.


She had already told you previously to be direct with her. My guess is you weren't direct enough.

I start preping and SOI, she then starts feeling tension from getting all female attention from the venue and she keeps looking at pool table and darts side while Im talking to her...

She was getting female attention?

I then say " HEY! look at me Im talking to you! HELLO!" kind of in a dominant way ( NOT SURE ITF THIS IS OK OR FUCK UP)

Actually, in this type of situation, this would show weakness on your part. Insecurity, and lack of self control.

she says like "yes" she looks right at me ...I go into story on female sex or natural women patter type improv I was doing and

A little interest on her part possibly, but more so trying to keep things calm.

I told her to "OK, lets go gt out of here"

she was like " Im staying here sorry Im not thet type of girl"

Yeah, she had no comfort or attraction built toward you, otherwise you could've pulled her out.

I was like " Shut up! shut up right now! I think your are cute and want to be with you"

Direct, but too late.

whisperer taps on her shoulder to come play darts ...
keeps whisperering again and I say "dude whats up man! " in a pissed way a little but subcommunication of wtf are you doing?!

You were showing MAJOR insecurity, man.

he wonders off but keeps looking...

she looks at me hard eye contact like sexual tension building but says
" last time I had a one night stand I ended up in a relationship , Im just going to play darts and pool with the boys"

She's trying to ease you off. Yet, because she's not getting you kicked out, she's hoping you might calm down and be a real alpha and give her a more genuine reason to leave with you.

amoggs came to check in and say "is everything alright?" I said yes and she just looked and he left but kept leering...

I said " Do you want to come with me? I really like to fuck you in the ass" and smiled with a smirk ala benicio del toro in traffic

she stared at me for congruence test and said

"I'd really like that ...but Im not going to do that "

" So, Im going to go play pool now.."

I was like " You are soo full of shit ; ) " and I left...kindah of upset and yet didnt pull....

The directness came too late. And, the directness was too vulgar, actually. You don't get that vulgar with the directness that soon. Especially not after you've shown so much insecurity. You can do better than this, bro.


FRANCO Comments:


Hello Sandros,

First of all get rid of negative frames like "failed seduction" they stuff your mind with emotions which impair your game.

There is no failure: only feedback.

let´s examine the feedback we can get from this case:

papa sandros wrote:
This FR is very very RAW I worte it out of bein a littel upset and tipsy...and its unedited.

>then she said she was looking for the bartender that told >her that he wanted to fuck her in a direct way....She siad >guys being direct turned her on.....I was like that sounds >cool but he isnt here tonight ...

This can mean two things:

1. She is telling you how to seduce her = she wants you to be a direct mother fucker in order to have her agree to have sex with you.

or ( this is more likely to be true)

2. She is a cock teaser..

The strategy is different depending on which one of the two.

>she said she wasnt happy and unemployed.
>I DIDNT KNOW HOW TO RESPOND WO COMING OFF TOO >SUBSERVIANT and TURN IT INTO A POSITIVE THING

When a girl gives you a too over sexual clue stop talking about anything connected with sex. If she is a cock teaser she will use that to betaise you.

Instead work on the principle: "Don´t explicate, demonstrate"

I would comment to this like

"Oh nice to hear that the guy wants you to have a great time"

And then I would stop any discussion connected with sex and focus on isolating her.

The asshole part of me I would put out when we are in isolation.


>so I just said" Im student now so its kidah hard on myself >too ,just waiting to finish"
>as I went into asking if she read cosmo to transition to >transition into sex talk she says NO! and she is more of GQ >girl and grew up with liking guys stuff... I DIDNT KNOW >HOW TO RECOVER !

She is telling you she is a masculine girl, maybe Daddy´s daughter.

This is the kind of girl who likes to be taken by a muscular gym teacher who teaches her how to pump iron and then fucks her.

If... she is not cock teasing you.. see there are Freak girls around who enjoy getting the guys to the edge of their sexual desire and then.. disappear.

>I said Im going to restroom be back and she said she go out >for a smoke..
>I came back and chodes were surrounding her.. CHODE >LEERING and PEERING

Giving her the attention she was craving for when she went to the bar. Notice: I said attention, not sex.

>I intro myself and they left play pool...for now ...but they >keep looking over in spectator mode.
>since I noticed her IOI another guy chode amogs
>to spike her BT I took out my fake 80's DG sunglasses and >put it on her
>and seed the timebridge with friend and afterhours,
>"I want you to come with me it will be fun", she said no I >cant I live nearby and I m just hanging out ..... ( yeah >hanging out at 3am
>what are you talking about?!)

Ok you could have said: "I am sure you have a nice kitchen. Let´s go to have a look at your kitchen" See the only way to f.close her is to have her away from the place she gets attention.. if she refuses isolation in spite of a very self-confident approach from you that means she will be there all the night fishing for attention and "maybe" go for the sex .. or go home alone.


>THE AMOG SCENE : then I fluff talk but she kept looking >around and "whsperer amog" comes to side he doesnt know >her, whisperes in her ear she looks at me and she laughs >and looks at him...

Well she is playing the field for attention. See, remember this: for women and especially of the Freak type attention is far more important than sex.

You need to remember on what she focuses in her game..

>I then interupt and introduce myslef ..he doesnt comply >and walks off but keeps looking at her while he is playing >darts ...
>I start preping and SOI, she then starts feeling tension from >getting all female attention from the venue and she keeps >looking at pool table and darts side while Im talking to her...
>I then say " HEY! look at me Im talking to you! HELLO!" kind >of in a dominant way ( NOT SURE ITF THIS IS OK OR FUCK >UP)
>she says like "yes" she looks right at me ...I go into story on >female sex or natural women patter type improv I was doing >and
>I told her to "OK, lets go gt out of here"
>she was like " Im staying here sorry Im not thet type of girl"

She is fishing for attention. She is the same girl who told you that the bartender told he wants to fuck her and that she likes direct men.

So: she is cock teasing you. Using the sex hook to get attention..

>I was like " Shut up! shut up right now! I think your are >cute and want to be with you"
>whisperer taps on her shoulder to come play darts ...
>keeps whisperering again and I say "dude whats up man! " in >a pissed way a little but subcommunication of wtf are you >doing?!
>he wonders off but keeps looking...
>she looks at me hard eye contact like sexual tension >building but says
>" last time I had a one night stand I ended up in a >relationship , Im just going to play darts and pool with the >boys"

Ok she wants to make sure that if she has sex you will not become the jealous possessive boy who stalks her..

amoggs came to check in and say "is everything alright?" I said yes and she just looked and he left but kept leering...

>I said " Do you want to come with me? I really like to fuck >you in the ass" and smiled with a smirk ala benicio del toro >in traffic
>she stared at me for congruence test and said
>"I'd really like that ...but Im not going to do that "

Ok she told you plain that she is enjoying the teasing game she is doing in the bar and the attention of the boys and having fun cock teasing guys.

Next time a girl tries to cock tease you with sex what you have to do is to shift the game to something boring and neutral like financial news and politics and then escalate on her with your kino without saying a word about sex.

She asks: "What you are doing?" when you touch her hand

You say: "I think next year the financial forecast is getting better" and put your hand on her ass..

If you do not verbalize SEX or anything else she will be forced to submit to kino of push you away which will ruin her need for communication and need for cock teasing you..

>" So, Im going to go play pool now.."
>I was like " You are soo full of shit ; ) " and I left...kindah >of upset and yet didnt pull....

Now nice to be cock teased.. next time you will be better with cock teasers.

Cheers, Franco
http://www.francoseduction.com/manual-of-seduction

Why she makes out with you at the CLUB and then drops you by Franco

Club game is a totally different perspective.

All what is true in other types of games becomes wilder and pretty much different in club game.

Guys project their horniness into the girls and believe that the girls will behave like guys; try to get laid as their main goal.

Well that is true: women like sex as much as guys and want to get laid as much as the guys do.

Anyway, there are some very important differences between guys and girls in matters of priorities in the sexual area.

If you have been making out with a girl in the club and then wondering why she suddenly left without having sex with you well the reason is exactly in those differences between girls and boys in matters of priorities.

Guys are very much puzzled and irritated when she makes out with them and then leaves.

They do not understand the meaning of this apparently “illogical” behavior.

Well there is a very important logic in this kind of female behavior: a female´s main sexual goal is not to get laid.

A female´s main sexual goal is to get social power by building as many social links as possible and then controlling them at need.

This is the main sexual end goal of the woman.

Only after she has done that she can get to her second priority: getting laid.

Having sex is her second end goal after she is sure that she has succeeded in building as many social links as possible.

A female labeled as a “slut” by other women is a rare woman who does not follow this law: first the screening, then the sex.

A big part of this behavior is to have as many males as possible get into the sub-servient attitude towards her so that she can gain social power over them.

When you wonder why she makes out with you and then leaves you are missing to detect an important law of evolution at work: she is screening men in the same way she does in other venues it´s only that she does it with much faster and much tougher means.

This touching you, making out with you has a totally different meaning in the club compared to the meaning it would have if it would happen on the streets or – maybe – while you watch a movie with her in a movie theater.

In those cases touching you, making out with you would be a strong indicator of her wanting sex with you especially if there are no other girls around and you are not in a social group.

In those situations she would have no competition as there are no other girls around. You would have no competition around as well: there would be no other guys around.

In the club the situation is totally different she knows very well that there is strong female competition. She also knows that the guys are dying of the desire of having sex with the girls as soon as possible.

So she needs to hook guys who try to seduce her very fast in order to win female competition and have as many males as possible investing their energy into her before she can start screening them.

50 years ago the hook would have been uncovering little bit her leg or holding eye contact little bit longer with some guy.

Nowadays such nice hooks would not work anymore as the clubs and the cities are otherwise full of girls who are having free minded sex with the guys left and right.

No guy pays anymore so much attention to a naked ass or a girl holding eye contact longer with him.

Also, there are so many nice guys around that many guys really do not have the courage to approach on the streets and go to clubs with the hope of getting laid.

In the club environment her main goal is to firstly gain social power by multiplying her social links and the number of guys who supplicate to her.

She does that to have the time to continue her screening and win her female competition.

Without the hook she would have nothing to screen for. There is always the “slut” next to her who has the guys get laid “for free.”

Actually one single “slut” is a really dangerous competition for the average girls. She is little bit like a guy: she can give sexual satisfaction and get laid with many, many guys during a week.

It really puts in danger other women by keeping them from getting out of the guys more than the sex.

So what she does?

She uses a stronger hook: heavy make out with you just to drop you when you escalate to have her into sex.

By making out with you she gains a huge advantage on the other girls: she has you hooked so that you forget the other girls and invest your energy mainly into her.

You focus your attention on her and get betaised while she makes out with you and at the same time controls her own horniness by drinking alcohol and by chatting with the other girls in the bathroom.

Yes, alcohol is very often used by girls in order to control horniness: alcohol rises endorphins and dopamine the hormones of the pleasure and can help a girl getting out of club while being terribly horny without having sex with a single guy!

For this reason I never sarge a girl who is heavily drunk. It becomes to easy for her to control her own horniness.

Same goes about talking a lot. A female Californian psychiatrist has demonstrated that females get from talking the same pleasure they get from orgasms.

Girls use chatting with other girls as a way to control their own emotions. The girlfriend who is her “cock block” has the same meaning: she is helping the target to control her own emotions when she is close to get horny.

The bathroom is in clubs for females the “female horniness control room.”

Have you ever been in clubs in a situation where she makes out with you and then says: “I go to pee” and when she comes back she has changed and begins to find all the kind of excuses to drop you?

Well if you have been there you know what I am talking about. She is doing that to control her own horniness in order to have the time to evaluate you and plan the evaluation of the other guys in the club.

Evaluating guys, screening them is dictated by the deep instincts of evolution: they tell her to screen for the stronger male and at the same time for a male who can be manipulated into investing his energy into her.

She does that under her instinct of protecting herself and the offspring which would potentially derive from your sexual contact with her

I can hear you: you object that modern girls do not need men to take care of the offspring and that they can live on social security.

That is true and the need to hook you for sex and then drop you to repeat the cycle with other males only demonstrates how much they are under the influence of those instinct in spite of not needing them anymore.

Screening is vital for a female survival. Making out with you and then dropping you gives her the time to screen males and build social links.

It´s an instinct: it protects her and her potential offspring and it is compelling to her.

Now that I have shared with you this we can approach the topic of what you need to do in practice in the club to have success.

These are these main strategies

- If your style is to go heavily sexual and escalate on any girl then what you have to do is to escalate fare more than what she does. This is an important calibration: you need to understand quickly how much is for her “too much” and push her over that border. For example if she touches your hand then you go more sexual than her and touch her ass. If she kisses you then you go more sexual than her and put your hand into her jeans. This will have her discover her cards very fast and if she was trying to hook you in order to build social links and have you supplicate then this will either force her to submit to you sexually or she will blow herself out so that you can go on chatting with other girls. In this particular situation if she says: “I go to the bathroom” or gives any kind of explanations simply go to chat to the next girl in front of her eyes and forget her instantly because she does that in order to control herself. Same thing if she stops you when you escalate more.

- Another way of gaming girls in the club is blocking them in their need of building social links and having you supplicate. In this other way you only give “minor sexual clues” but push her away regularly any time she is close to making out with you. For example you might smile and wink at her but when she comes closer you move your body language away from her. Maybe you neg her. Maybe you tease and do some push-pull. In this other way of gaming girls in clubs you do two things 1. Push her away when she tries to hook you sexually 2. Tend to have her into isolation. Isolation in this case is not a dark side of the club. If you make out with her in a dark side of the club you are basically doing her game. Your goal is to have her get out of the club alone with you and then you start the escalation when the two of you are alone.

- Gaming the group is another way. For example this is a wonderful way if you go clubbing with your best friends. You need to get the charge over the smaller groups which form themselves automatically in the realm of the chaotic situation in the club itself. People of 3-4 or more get together for example close to the bar and you game the group by being “cool” to all the members and totally ignore the girl you want. When she sees that you are the coolest in the group – the leader of the group – you are basically sexually pre-selected and when you push her away she will wonder “who is this guy who is not being an idiot like all the other guys and all the people like him? I want to find out.”

- Using a Pivot. If you have a good female friend who knows that you are a playboy and is complacent towards your adventures go clubbing with her. If you do MLTRs (Multiple Long-Term Relationships) then the girls you are in a relationship usually know about your playboy hobby: go clubbing with her but make sure that she can control her own jealousy. Doing the club game with a Pivot is one of the most powerful ways for having success. In a way you are pre-selected and game the girls while having the Pivot with you being your “girlfriend.” The instinct of the competition will force the target to invest attention in you as it is in women hard wired to want men who are wanted by other women.

- Wingman: if you are with your wingman for all the time of your club gaming have fun with him. While you have fun with him never, never show that your attention is more invested into the girls compared to the attention you give to your wingman. Use peripheral vision to spot your targets. You need to look like two quality guys who are having fun and totally detached from the surroundings. While you have fun with the wing do small approaches by turning your neck on one side but never, never face the girl. If you get compliance than you can face her. Anytime she is resisting you ditch her and pay more attention to your wing.

In order to apply properly the above methods you need to have a broad knowledge of how the mechanisms of evolution affect female sexual desire and that you can find in my Manual of Seduction for Husbands, Single Men and Playboys.

Night Game Model Part 8- Dealing with a Bad Night

I just started going out and sarging again for the first time in months. When I say sarge, I actually mean going out with the intention to pick up girls for myself (I don’t really consider coaching part of it, since I typically try to let the student carry most of the weight in set). Anyway, I started going out again and I’m pretty rusty and I had a particularly “off” night last night. Everything just felt a bit out of whack, so I just wanted to write up some things that help me handle nights like that.

Whatever you do, don’t be hard on yourself. The minute you start beating yourself up saying, “damnit, I suck, what’s wrong with me?” your night’s over. It’s all downhill from there. No matter how ugly things get, no matter how awkward and pathetic you are, DON’T let yourself beat yourself up. Nothing good comes out of it. I try to make kind of a, “we’ll deal with this later” deal with myself. You know how like when you were a kid and you were getting in trouble in public and your mom/dad was like, “We’re going to deal with this when we get home,” because they didn’t want to make a huge scene in public and make things worse? It’s kind of like that. I just hold off all self-criticism and pitying until I get home.

Don’t blame the girls, the night, the venue, blah, blah, blah. Look. Some nights just suck. Some logistics just suck. Some venues just suck. We all know that. Sometimes girls are just bitches and you get the bad luck of the draw. But there’s no reason to look for excuses. If you could be doing better, you could be doing better and that’s all that matters. BUT don’t beat yourself up about it until you get home.

When in doubt, do whatever helps you have fun. What kills you on nights like this is that you’ll have a couple sets that don’t go too well and then you start getting annoyed/upset/frustrated which makes the next sets go even worse, and so on and so on. When you feel yourself getting frustrated and annoyed, take a time out for 30 minutes. Do something that you enjoy. Last night, I did 4-5 sets, none of which went very far and a couple of them I thought I ran horribly (by my standards). I was getting a little pissed, so what’d I do? I sat down at the bar, ordered a beer and watched the basketball game for about 30 minutes. I chilled out, let it all go, quit caring. After about 20 minutes or so, a real cute blonde came and sat next to me. I casually opened her and it ended up being my best set of the night. Take the pressure off, relax and always make sure the fun’s there. If the fun’s not there, nothing will be.

Learn from your mistakes and move on. I like to debrief myself the next day. I find that “sleeping it off” whether a great night or a bad night helps me be objective. The night of, when you get home, regardless of how things went, you’re still on an emotional high/low, you may be a bit drunk, you’re probably tired. It’s hard to be objective in those situations. I like to wait until I wake up the next day to analyze myself. I make note of what I did well and what I didn’t, and once I’ve made a mental note of what I should change I immediately discard the night and let go of it. It’s in the past. Over the next day or two, if feelings of resentment or regret start creeping up, I immediately let them go and move on. There’s no point in dwelling, no matter how bad you fuck up.

Every night’s a new night. The best way to get over a bad night is to have a great night. Go out again the next night if you can. Even if it’s not a great night, having fun and having a couple sets go all right sure beats the hell out of sitting at home and dwelling on your fuck ups. Even better, go out with some friends and just goof off. You’ll be over it in no time.

Night Game Model Part 4 — Calibration

This is a long one, kids, but for good reason.

Calibration may be THE most important concept to understand when it comes to picking up women.

So if you’ve read parts 1 through 3 of the night game model, you basically now know: PART 1 :who and when to open,
PART 2: how to open and transition,
Part 3:how to cycle teasing and comfort stories.


Getting good at these things will enable you to open sets and hold them as long as necessary and build attraction. But there’s still a CRUCIALLY important concept that I need to go over: and that’s calibration.

Calibration is absolutely fundamental and for a simple reason as well: not every girl is the same. Some women like to be teased, some don’t. Some are looking for a guy, some aren’t. Some are going to like you immediately, some aren’t. As my friend Smallville once said, “The only rule is calibration, everything else is just a recommendation.”

With that said, before we jump into this, it’s very important that you’re familiar with my concepts of passive/active attraction and how they work. You can read the brief overview on the concepts here: http://www.entropypua.com/blog/personalizing-pickup-natural-advantagesdisadvantages

The two main things to remember going forward: 1) that attraction is based on value and 2) every woman’s perception of value (what they find attractive) is different.

For instance, what you consider an HB10 could have terrible self-esteem or be unaware of her own value, whereas she may find you naturally “her type.” But you, thinking, “She’s an HB10, I have to tease her hard,” will overvalue yourself and get blown out.

This is why calibration is so important. There’s no single thing you can do that works in every interaction.

Also, sometimes you run into girls who are HB6’s or HB7’s who THINK that they’re hot shit and when you approach think to themselves, “great, another jackass trying to get laid.” In your mind, she’s just an HB6, so you don’t really try to game her, but she actually perceives herself to be of much higher value so she blows you off.

This is why HB10’s are often some of the nicest girls and HB6’s can be the meanest.

The laws of passive and active attraction say that you want just enough attraction so that she perceives your value to be equal or above hers.
A lot of times guys don’t realize their own passive value and so they’ll immediately be higher value than a girl as soon as they talk to her and mistakenly try to create active attraction. This is the biggest and one of the most common mistakes a guy can make.

So how do we know where we are in regards to her? What’s her perception of us?

I have a simple process that I apply when I’m in set: Once I hook the set, I’ll throw out a very light tease to the girl and see how she responds.

- If she laughs and responds positively, it means my value is equal or slightly higher to hers and I’ll keep teasing until I stop getting a positive reaction.
- If she responds negatively and seems offended, it means I’m OVERVALUED and I stop. I will compliment her, state my interest or DLV myself (buy her a drink) to bring myself closer to her. This is to make me “attainable” in her eyes. You’ll have to do this often with shy or reserved girls.
- If she responds negatively and is cold and bored, it means I’m extremely undervalued and I need to tease her even harder. Girls who react this way, you’re not even on their radar screen yet, so you have to say something really bold and outlandish to wake them up to you.
- If she shit-tests me back in a playful way, it means she values herself slightly more than me, in which I keep teasing until I get a negative response.

Once I know where my value is relative to hers, I follow this blueprint:
- If I’m OVERVALUED, I will compliment her, state my interest in her and even DLV myself.
- If I’m UNDERVALUED, I tease and neg her harder until I get a more positive reaction or she blows me out.
- If I’m around her value, I keep teasing at the same level and being escalating.

After a while, this will all become second nature to you.

The last comment I’ll make is that sometimes you run into girls who will get into frame battles with you – i.e., you tease them, they tease you back, you tease them more, they tease you back more, and you never are able to actually get anywhere. These girls like you, you just have to go SUPER AGGRESSIVE on them. A lot of times, they’ll reject your advances for no other reason than to tease you again, but just keep plowing. They like you, they’re just really sassy.

Calibration is mostly developed through doing hundreds and even thousands of sets. After enough time you begin to just pick up which girls naturally like you a lot, which girls seem lonely, which ones seem happy that you’re opening them, etc.

After enough time, you begin to get really good at reading social cues as well, all of the little IOI’s or IOD’s she may give you. Calibration is something you have to constantly work on. Your game is only as good as your calibration. You can know every awesome technique and line in the world, but if you don’t know when to use them, you won’t get anywhere.

In the next installment, I’ll provide a few examples of each of these calibrations in action.

Night Game Model — Part 3

We’ve covered pre-selection, opening and transitions, now we’re into the bulk of the conversation. I’d say 50-75% of my sets make it this far, depending on the venue. The rest are either blow outs or the girl just didn’t hook well at all.

What I do at this point, is very similar to what I do in the day game model. In the day game model, I cycle qualification and comfort stories. At night, I do the same thing, except I just add teases to the cycle.

So for instance, in day game, a conversation will go something like this:

Me: “So what do you do when you’re not shopping for groceries?” (Qualification)
Her: “I work at X and do Y. I really like it because of Z.”
Me: “That’s cool. I had a friend who used to do Y, but they didn’t like Z.” (Comfort Story)

At night, it’d go something more like this:

Me: “So what do you do when you’re not out drinking appletini’s with your girlfriends?” (Qualification with a little tease)
Her: “I work. I do Y at X.”
Me: “Wow, aren’t we Ms. Professionalism.” (Tease)
Her: “I guess. People say I take my job too seriously.”
Me: “So that’s why you come and drink.” (Tease)
Her: “Exactly!”
Me: “That’s cool. I had a friend who did Y. He didn’t like it because of Z.” (Comfort)

Then repeat the cycle with another topic.

It’s the exact same conversation, just with teasing sprinkled in (and I’d be kino’ing but more on that in Part 5).

How much you should be teasing and when you should be teasing will be covered in Part 4, Calibration.

As far as teasing goes, it’s good to learn how to improvise teases on the spot. If you have trouble, you may look into taking a comedy or impov class. A good sense of humor and solid sense of timing when telling jokes is important, not just for women but for social skills in general.

But also, once you’ve done 500-1,000 sets, you’ll notice a lot of patterns in conversation and certain topics and questions that come up pretty frequently. You can develop stock teases/jokes.

For instance, almost every set it comes up where I’m from (Texas). I live in Boston. Probably about 50% of girls ALWAYS ask me, why I moved to Boston from Texas. I always respond the same way: I look at them as if they just asked me the most retarded question ever and say, “To get the fuck out of Texas… duh.” They always laugh. ALWAYS.

Another question I get all the time when this topic comes up is, “But you don’t have a southern accent.” I say, “Yeah, because I’m civilized.”

I have probably used both of these lines at least 1,000 times at this point, and the girl laughs (thus gaining attraction) at least 95% of the time. I still use them at least once a night.

Then there are the stock “routine” teases that come from the community. I have a couple that I use over and over. Whenever a girl has trouble understanding me, or isn’t listening to me, or can’t hear me, I always say, “Look X, we have communication issues, this isn’t going to work any more,” and I lightly push her away.

Another favorite is when a girl is feisty and pretends like she’s going to fight me or says she’ll kick my ass, I say, “Look, I haven’t hit a women in almost six months, don’t break the streak.” You really need to say this with a smile on your face so she knows you’re kidding, btw.

I also pull out the, “You’re so cute when you do that, I want to adopt you as my little sister,” every now and then, depending on the girl.

Finally, once in a blue moon, I pull out Style’s “5 Questions” game, which to this day I don’t think a single girl has won. I usually only use this routine if I know the girl is into me, but I’m seriously stalling out for some reason. It rarely fails me.

So right there, I have 2-3 stock lines for common topics of conversation, I have 2-3 stock “routine” teases, and then I have whatever teases I improvise in the middle of the set. That right there is more than enough to have in your arsenal.

Typically, most girls you only have to tease 2-4 times before you have enough attraction (depends on how well you tease and their personality), other girls may require a few more.

One of the biggest problems I see in guys is they tease WAY TOO MUCH. They’ll tease and banter and tease and banter like 15 minutes into the set, and now they’ve gone from the random guy approaching to the hot guy with attitude to the dancing monkey who’s getting a little played out.

Here’s an example of a typical set where I would need to tease a few times to move on:

Me: “Hey, what’s up? I’m Mark. I wanted to come meet you.” (Direct Opener)
Her: “Hi. I’m Betty Boop.”
Me: “Cool. You don’t come across like most of the girls here. You don’t seem as superficial as most girls you meet in clubs.” (Cold Read Transition)
Her: “Hah, well thanks. I don’t usually come to places like this. It’s my friend’s birthday tonight.”
Me: “Cool. How do you know the birthday girl?” (Testing for Logistics — more in part 6)
Her: “We went to college together, we don’t get to see each other that often anymore.”
Me: “I see. Did you guys go to school around here? You don’t seem like you’re from around here. ” (Cold Read)
Her: “Yeah, we did. But I’m from Illinois. How did you know?”
Me: “You’re not an asshole. Haha.”
Her: “What about you? Where are you from?”
Me: “I’m from Texas originally.”
Her: “Texas? Why did you come up here?”
Me: “Uhh… to get the hell out of Texas!” (Tease 1)
Her: *laughs*
Me: But “I’m from Austin, it’s kind of like an oasis of free-thought and liberalism in the middle of the Bible Belt.” (comfort story)
Her: “Really? I’ve never been.”
Me: “Well, you’re missing out Betty. Get your shit together.” (Tease 2)
Her: “I’ll get right on it.”
Me: “That’s the spirit. So what do you like to do when you’re not talking to Texans in Boston bars?”
Her: “Oh, I don’t know.”
Me: “You don’t know? What do you mean you don’t know? You have to like something.”
Her: “I’m a bit of a homebody.”
Me: “So?”
Her: “So I don’t get out much.”
Me: “Yeah, but you must do something at home.”
Her: “I guess I like to read.”
Me: “Sorry, I don’t talk to girls who read. I prefer my women illiterate.” (Tease 3)
Her: *laughs*
Me: “I’m Texan, remember?” (Tease 4)
Her: *laughs*Me: “Actually, I read a lot too.”
Her: “Really?”
Me: (Comfort story about reading.)

And that would be 90% of the teasing I would need for that set. By that point, she’d be attracted, and I could just build comfort and escalate from there.

I’ll be back next time to talk about calibration, knowing when to tease and banter, and knowing when to just stick to comfort stories. Part 5 will cover escalation. And finally, Part 6 will cover figuring out logistics. Then that should cover it.

Night Game Model — Part 2

In part one of my night game model, we covered some basics about night game (venues, types of girls, etc.) and what I do before I open a set (pre-selection). In part two, we’re going to cover opening and the first 30 seconds or so of conversation.

Opening

There are three different ways to open: direct, indirect and situational (which is another form of indirect usually). I’d say I tend to go situational 50% of the time, direct 40% of the time and indirect 10%.

When it’s best to go direct: When there’s a good logistical situation. For instance, if it’s a two or three-set, the girl looks like she’s looking for a guy (remember the people reading skills from part one), and her friends are distracted. Also, if there aren’t any guys around, although 90% of guys will back down and STFU if you have the balls to go direct in front of them. The only other situations I do direct is when I *REALLY* like a girl — i.e., she looks very intriguing to me as well as beautiful (really hot nerdy girls are a good example).

My direct is usually low-key because I’m a big guy and if I get too aggressive, I throw girls off. “Hi, I wanted to come meet you, I’m Mark” is probably at least half of my direct opens. Sinn’s “You guys look cool, are you friendly,” almost always hooks, etc. If you’re a smaller or shorter guy, I’d recommend coming in with more aggression and energy, something like, “You’re really sexy, I had to come meet you,” while kino’ing hard.
When I go situational: If you’re good at improvising lines based on the environment around you, situational is often the best way to go. It hooks just about every time and comes across as very genuine and spontaneous. I try to do it as much as possible.

Some stock situational lines I use: girl sitting by herself, I say, “Are you in time out?” If the bar is crowded, sometimes I bet the girl next to me a drink that I get served first. If some girls look really bored, I come over and say, “Look, this is a ‘fun-only’ zone, we need to fix this.”

Indirect: I save indirect openers (opinion openers, anything you’d find in the Routines Manual) for larger groups or mixed sets. “Drunk I Love You’s” opens groups of 4+ sufficiently 90% of the time. Google it if you don’t know what it is. It’s basically the new, “Who lies more?”

Transitioning and Cold Reading

Just as in the day game model, I ALWAYS transition with a cold read.

If I went direct, I’ll transition with a basic cold read about the group. If I noticed something interesting about them before I opened (again, people-reading, pre-selecting… see part 1), I comment on that. These cold reads usually range from neutral to hit the nail on the head. When you hit the nail on the head with your cold read, combined with the direct, you have pretty much instant attraction. A few months ago, I opened this really tall brunette direct, and cold read her job perfectly my very next line (”You look like a closet nerd, I bet you’re an engineer or something.”) I was right and she FREAKED the fuck out. The attraction was immediately through the roof and the rest of the set was a matter of escalating.

If I don’t have anything to cold read on the specific set, I use one of a couple stock cold reads: “You don’t look like you’re from X,” “You guys look like you’ve been friends forever,” etc.

This will always get the conversation started down a general thread. As I’ll focus on later, you want every conversation to be about one of two things: you or her. I don’t really fuck around with routines, games or gimmicks. I want to know about her ASAP and want to share myself ASAP, so these cold-reads get that started pretty quickly. On top of that, they eliminate the annoying “interview question” habit and that percentage of the time when you cold read them right, you get a nice boost of attraction.

Note: Often, just by cold reading them correctly and going direct, I’ll already have more than enough attraction to get laid by this point. Let me say that again. By simply going direct, having great non-verbals, and cold reading well, I’ll often have enough attraction to get laid. The rest is a matter of escalating well. The biggest tip off for this is if she immediately starts asking YOU interview questions.

For instance, I have sets that go like this sometimes:

Me: “Hi, excuse me, I thought you were cute and wanted to meet you. I’m Mark.”
Her: “Oh wow, thank you.”
Me: “I got a really cool vibe from you, you seem more artistic than most of the other girls here.”
Her: “Oh… wow, I’m a photographer, how did you know that? That’s amazing.”
Me: “I just had a feeling, that’s why I wanted to meet you.”
Her: “Cool. So where are you from?”

BAM! As soon as that, “where are you from?” comes out, in my mind, the game’s over. Unless I majorly fuck up my escalation or comfort, she and I are going to get together.

A lot of guys fight against girls giving them interview questions, and this has never made sense to me. If a girl is asking you questions, she’s conveying nothing but interest. Why you would ever punish her for that is beyond me.

Cold reading off of indirect openers: Same concepts apply. The only difference is if we get into a conversation based on my opener, I’ll adjust my cold read for the conversation. For instance, let’s say I use, “Drunk, I love you’s:”

Me: “Hey guys, quick question, do drunk I love’s you count?”
Them: “What are those?”
Me: “See, my buddy Jack got drunk last night and texted this girl that he loved her. But he doesn’t remember doing it and now she thinks they’re a couple. What should he do?”
Them: Blah, blah, blah (they usually say he can’t take it back.)
Me: “Well, I’m sure you’ve done some stupid shit when you’ve been drunk.”
Her: “OMG, you have no idea.”
Me: (Go into crazy drunk story)

This will get you about 30-60 seconds into the conversation. In part 3, I’m going to through how I cycle attraction and comfort. Again, similar to the day game model where you cycle qualification and comfort, at night, I usually cycle teasing and comfort. We’ll talk about that next time.

Night Game Model — Part 1

Over the months, I’ve consistently gotten requests to devise a “Night Game Model” similar to the Day Game Model here on this site. Guys have loved that model because it’s simple, concise, flexible and easy to implement. So everyone’s been wondering if there’s a possible way to implement something similar to night game.

Here’s my attempt to do so. Same deal: I have no idea how long this series will go, but I’m going to go until I get all pertinent information out, nothing more, nothing less.

This is how 90% of my sets in night game go, and all of the mental processes that I go through with each set. Just like the day game model, following this at this point has become redundant, I don’t even really think about it anymore.

Notes About Night Game

Before we begin, some things should be noted about night game:

- Night game is very random. Aside from logistics, crazy shit is happening at night: people are drunk, fights break out, everyone is with a lot of friends, people come and go, places get crowded, etc.

This has two effects on how we approach night game: one is we have to be far more flexible than day game, the other is that we have to be prepared to do more. Put succinctly, night game has a wider range of results (anything from a ONS to a girlfriend to a fist in your face), and therefore it has a wider range of skills and variables. Whereas day game, you really only need to be able to fluff, build some comfort and get a number, the skills required at night run the gamut.
- Night game venues vary widely in difficulty and type. Popular dance clubs, high-end clubs, dive bars, gay bars, strip clubs, lounge, hotel bars, college bars, etc., etc. — all of these environments operate slightly differently and therefore you’ll have to learn how to calibrate to your environment.

In general, the more energetic the environment (crazy lights, loud music, dancing, alcohol), the more energetic you need to be. The more laid back the environment, the more laid back you need to be. Also, play to your audience. You should act differently in a college bar as you do at an upscale night club. (This topic is a whole article unto itself).

- You have to deal with competition in night game. If you open a woman at the grocery store, chances are slim some other guy is going to walk by and try to fuck you up. But at night, you’ll get guys doing just that quite often.

Once again, this has two obvious effects: one is that you have to be prepared to deal with other guys, and two women are going to be a lot more jaded and have their guard up at night.

Pre-Screening

Now that we have that out of the way, you’re in a venue, there are tons of people there, what are you doing next?

Pre-screening sets is an important step that almost nobody talks about (because it goes completely against the classic three-second rule). When I get to a venue, I like to take a lap around the venue and check out what’s going on, what kind of people are there, how many hot girls are there, what the logistical situation is like and if there are any “easy pickens” to start out with.

You do this by looking at two things when you walk around: people’s logistics and people’s body languages, or what I like to call, “What’s their story?”

1) Logistics is easy. Hot girl with three guys = poor logistics. Three hot girls by themselves at the bar laughing a lot = good logistics. Large groups sitting down = hard set. Two girls dancing with each other having a good time = easy set.

2) “What’s their story?” takes a lot more skill. You need to be able to read body language and read people well (which is a vastly underrated skill). For instance, if I spot a three-set, two girls and a guy, watching them for 10 seconds can reveal a lot about them. Are either the girls “with” him? Are they blowing him off? Does he look chodey? Do they look like they’re having fun, or are they there because they feel like they have to?

Figuring this shit out beforehand can be absolutely huge if you open them and cold-read them (more on that later). For instance, if I observe a set for 15 seconds and then walk up and one minute into the interaction say, “you guys seem like you’ve been friends forever but don’t get to see each other often,” it’s not a shot in the dark. I’m saying it because they seem to really like each other but also seem a bit nervous/awkward around one another (you know that awkwardness you get when you hang out with an old friend you haven’t seen in years? Yeah… that). Anyway, you hit that nail on the head and bam, your value is through the roof.

More on cold-reading later.

Basically, what I do is after I check the specs for all of these things in each group of people, I make some decisions: which girls do I want to talk to? Which sets would be easy? Which would be hard? Which people seem interesting to me? Which women seem like they’d naturally be into me? I take all of these factors into account and then prioritize the sets I want to open. Generally, I’ll start with whichever set has the combination of best logistics/hottest girls/most inviting vibe and go down the list.

Quick note: to everyone who says, “But isn’t walking around a bar looking at everybody make you seem like an AFC? Shouldn’t you get into set right away so that EVERYONE knows you’re such a social, cool, alpha, pimpdaddy?”

I’ve never bought into this. Why? Because people really don’t give a shit, especially girls. Think back to the last night you were out and talking to a bunch of people — I mean, the last time you had a really great time with some friends (or in set) for a good hour or two. How many people do you notice walking around by themselves? If you even noticed any, did you care? Did you make a mental note: “OMG, that guy’s by himself, what a fuck chode!”

No, you probably assumed he was walking to the bathroom/bar/door or looking for someone.

No one cares. As long as you don’t sit there and stare like a goddamn creeper, it doesn’t matter.

I’ll be back with part two in a couple days going over opening, transitions, cold-reads and continuing to screen.

Environmental Energy and How It Relates To You

No, this is not a post about Greenpeace or global warming — not THAT kind of environmental energy.

This question has been coming up a lot lately, both with students and at lair talks. And it’s the question of environment. Typically, the guy will say one of the following:

“I usually do night game at clubs, but during the day a lot of women blow me out or flake on me.”
“I typically do day game, and when I go out at night girls ignore me or seem to find me boring.”

This is a REALLY common problem, and the reason is that the way you game changes based on WHERE you’re gaming. What usually happens is that guys learn to game in one setting — either day game or night game, and then once they get a little bit of experience, they branch out and try the other environments. But they don’t realize that it’s very different.

Think about it. During the day, your average woman is out walking around, not paying attention, pretty low energy, going about her day, probably out just to buy some milk and bread or something. And if you come flying in, grabbing her, yelling obscene jokes and teasing her about her shoes… it’s going to freak her out. Big time.

On the other hand, if you are in a loud night club, and you open a girl and immediately start trying to talk to her about where she’s from and what she likes to do… she’s going to get bored in about 3 seconds flat and walk away.

You need to match the energy of your environment.

In night clubs, it’s dark, it’s loud, it’s crazy, people are drunk, dancing and flirting left and right… so you need to be just as exciting and interesting to have a chance. The way I often describe club game to guys is, “you need to be the brightest and shiniest object in the room.” Not literally, but as far as your energy goes — you need to be more interesting and exciting than whatever she was doing before you opened her, or else you’re done.

Day game, on the contrary, is relaxed, chilled out and very, very, very casual. Anything you do that is too energetic during the day is going to shock her and make her feel weird. Imagine the energy level it takes to ask directions to Starbucks, that’s what the whole interaction should be like. Little to no touching, little to no teasing — just some smiling and some interesting conversation.

Clubs and day game are the two extremes… you’ll also find a lot of “in between” environments.

For instance, a lot of bars or lounges are going to be more casual than dance clubs, and dive bars and pubs are going to be even more casual. Opening a girl on the street at night will probably only be slightly more energetic than day game in many cases, and many social events and parties will fall into the same category.

Social circle situations (not counting parties) such as work, class, or meeting friends for lunch should be just as casual and low energy as day game if not moreso.

Calibrate your energy to the environment. Here are some principles to remember:

The Higher the Energy = the more kino, the more attraction game, the louder and more animated you should be, the harsher and edgier your humor, the better and more flamboyantly dressed.

The Lower the Energy = less kino, more comfort game, quieter, more relaxed and casual, little to no humor, dressed nicely but normally.

Hope this clears up a lot of issues for guys out there.

Some Day and Night Game Observations

So I’ve been going for a lot of night game lately and I have a few thoughts on it–

1. 95% of girls at night suck. I don’t mean this in a “those girls blew me out so I’m gonna talk shit kind of way.” No. The girls just seriously suck.

They’re usually ugly once you get them in the light, they’re drunk, and I would rather watch “The Love Guru,” quite possibly one of the worst movies ever made then carry on a conversation with the majority of these girls.

I pulled three girls home from a bar or a club last week. None of them were as hot as girls I meet in day game and I never plan on seeing any of them ever again, I actually have none of their numbers so I won’t see them again.

But it gets better–
Wednesday fell asleep and I’d rather not go to jail for rape. So I kicked her out.

Thursday gave me LMR, I plowed through it, and was so disgusted and tired by the time we fucked that I finished really quick and kicked her out immediately

Friday was the best though. Got her home, her panties came off and…. wait for it… wait for it… no not a penis… A rash that looked like 3rd degree burns and flesh eating disease got married, had children , and left their offspring on her pussy. Guess what? I kicked her out.

On the bright side I have a feeing that the “quality” of the girls will improve as I find venues that have my type of girls in them.

2. It is easier to get laid from night game than day game. A lot easier.

3. Game is game. A lot of my day game stuff carries over, it’s just learning stuff like group dynamics, AMOG techniques, etc.

4. It’s a hell of a lot more fun than going out during the day. Friends + Alcohol + Pussy = good times.

These are just some thoughts.

Night Game Model Part 5 — Calibration Examples

This post piggybacks off my break down of night game calibration from a couple days ago. As promised, I will provide example dialogs of each of the situations related to calibrating your teasing/banter for each girl you meet.

If you remember, I described four scenarios in which you can end up and how to calibrate to each one:

I have a simple process that I apply when I’m in set: Once I hook the set, I’ll throw out a very light tease to the girl and see how she responds.

- If she laughs and responds positively, it means my value is equal or slightly higher to hers and I’ll keep teasing until I stop getting a positive reaction.
- If she responds negatively and seems offended, it means I’m OVERVALUED and I stop. I will compliment her, state my interest or DLV myself (buy her a drink) to bring myself closer to her. This is to make me “attainable” in her eyes. You’ll have to do this often with shy or reserved girls.
- If she responds negatively and is cold and bored, it means I’m extremely undervalued and I need to tease her even harder. Girls who react this way, you’re not even on their radar screen yet, so you have to say something really bold and outlandish to wake them up to you.
- If she shit-tests me back in a playful way, it means she values herself slightly more than me, in which I keep teasing until I get a negative response.

Once I know where my value is relative to hers, I follow this blueprint:
- If I’m OVERVALUED, I will compliment her, state my interest in her and even DLV myself.
- If I’m UNDERVALUED, I tease and neg her harder until I get a more positive reaction or she blows me out.
- If I’m around her value, I keep teasing at the same level and being escalating.

After a while, this will all become second nature to you.

Situation 1: Responds positively, keep teasing until she stops responding positively


Me: (Arbitrary opener)
Her: Blah blah blah
Me: You don’t look like a Boston girl.
Her: Nope, born and raised in Boston. But I’m half Irish, half French.Me: How the hell does that work?
Her: Haha, I don’t know. It’s quite a mix.
Me: Does that mean you get drunk and start fights and then immediately give up?
Her: *laughing hysterically* OMG!
Me: I’m afraid to drink with you, I don’t know what will come out, your inner asshole or your inner wuss.
Her: Hahaha… neither! I’m a nice drunk.
Me: That’s cool, me too. I’m the type of drunk…. blah, blah, blah, comfort story.
(Few minutes, few teases later)
Me: Look, we obviously have communication problems, this will never work.
Her: Aww, no I was listening, the music was just too loud.
Me: I was just saying blah, blah, blah. Throw in a compliment here.

This is your classic PUA situation. The idea that you’re coming in slightly below her value, you need to tease/neg/banter to raise your value relative to hers and then you qualify her/compliment her as you move into more comfort.

Basically, I just throw teases between my comfort stories until she gets a bit defensive. This means that she’s feeling a bit self-conscious around me and is now pretty invested in the interaction and my opinion. I want to SUPPORT this by complimenting her and validating her. Keep in mind, I will bring teases back every now and again to keep things fresh, but not nearly with the same frequency.

Situation 2: She responds negatively and seems offended

Me: (Arbitrary opener)
Her: Blah blah blah
Me: You don’t look like a Boston girl.
Her: Nope, born and raised in Boston. But I’m half Irish, half French.
Me: How the hell does that work?
Her: What do you mean? (looks offended)
Me: That’s just a really unique combination. It’s cool though. Did your parents grow up in America or overseas?

In this situation, as soon as she seems offended, I take that as a cue that I’m overvalued and I need to be nice to her and even “chodey” to make myself more attainable to her. This is a girl who for whatever reason thinks she doesn’t have a shot with a guy like me, so I need to make it as easy as possible.

Also, I’d like to note that there’s a minority of girls out there who just really don’t like to be teased at all, by anyone. They’re rare, but they do exist. When you come across them, you may have to continue to build attraction but just not by teasing.

Situation 3: She acts bored or indifferent.

Me: (Arbitrary opener)
Her: Blah blah blah
Me: You don’t look like a Boston girl.
Her: No, I am.
Me: That’s cool. I’m actually from Texas originally.
Her: Oh.
Me: You seem like the serious type, like your friends have to drag you out here to make you have fun.
Her: Not really. I mean, I guess, I do work a lot.
Me: All work and no play makes Jill a dull girl.
Her: Yeah, I guess.
Me: You ever run after someone with an ax?
Her: What?!
Me: You ever try to kill someone with an ax.
Her: Haha, no. What the hell?
Me: All work and no play makes Jill a dull girl. Haven’t you seen The Shining?
Her: No, I haven’t.
Me: Jesus, you DO work too much. Get out a little.
Her: Haha… I haven’t really watched many movies lately.
Me: It’s a classic. Stanley Kubrick. Made in the 70’s. You’re missing out. What kind of movies do you typically watch? (Qualify)
Her: (Answers)
Me: That’s cool, (comfort story)

Situation 4: Positive Response, she banters back

Me: (Arbitrary opener)
Her: Blah blah blah
Me: You don’t look like a Boston girl.
Her: Fuck yeah I am. You obviously thought wrong.
Me: Well, you sure as hell act like a Boston girl.
Her: How’s that?
Me: You’re an asshole yet charming.
Her: Yeah, I get that a lot.
Me: (banter)
Her: (banter)
Me: (banter)
Her: (banter
Me: Look, this obviously isn’t working out, you know what? We’re broken up. I can’t do this anymore.
Her: Good! You sucked in bed anyway.
Me: How would you know? You were too drunk to feel what I was doing.
Her: Hahaha…
Me: You know what, I’m going to give you another chance. Tell me something about yourself.
Her: What? I don’t know. What do you want to know?
Me: I think you’re a cool girl, I want to actually get to know you.
Her: Sorry, you had your chance, we’re broken up.
Me: Yeah, yeah, but really, what are you most passionate about?
Her: (more evasion)
Me: (more direct interest)

Girls like this give newer guys the most trouble. Newer guys either can’t keep up with their wits or they get caught in the cycle of constant banter with them, which leads no where. The way to break out of this cycle with these girls is by stating direct interest repeatedly. But there are two caveats to this: 1) you have to prove that you can keep up with them banter/teasing-wise first. These types of girls don’t settle for pushovers or pussies. They want real men who will put them in their place, that’s why they cause so much trouble. And 2) she’s going to reject you at first and try to keep bantering with you. Again, you have to be unphased and continue to show interest.

These types of girls can be the most fun as well as the most frustrating. When you finally do get through to them, they can also be the most passionate and intense girls to date. They can also be a huge pain and the ass and absolutely psycho. Tread with caution.

Night Game Model Part 7— Logistics and Closing by Entropy

Welcome to the last installment of the Night Game Model. If you’ve been following everything up to this point, you’re opening, transitioning and cold-reading yourself into interesting threads, where you cycle teasing and comfort stories with ease, calibrating along the way, physically escalating and even making out with girls. Right? RIGHT?!?

Well congratulations, if you’re going for same night lays, that’s about 50% of the battle.

(If you don’t care about same night lays, that’s aout 80% of it, the rest is follow-up/phone game.)

Logistics is the other half. And if you aren’t prepared for it, logistics will FUCK YOU UP!

Check for good logistics EARLY: There are a handful of questions that you need to take care of pretty early in the set. Find out how your girl knows whoever she’s with. Find out their relationships (if she’s got family members with her, chances go way down). Find out where she lives and how she got there. Mentally note this and compare it to where you live and how you got there relative to the venue. It IS possible to get a girl to drive you to her place (or yours), but it’s not as likely. Basically, the ideal situation is for her to be out with a mixed group of people, not all of which she’s friends with and she lives close to you and/or the venue (or you live close to her and/or the venue). The worst-case-scenario is it’s her sister’s bachelorette party, her mom and two sisters are there, she lives in another city and engaged. You get the idea.

These questions (i.e., “How do you know your friends?” “Where do you live?” etc.) should be thrown out early but sporadically. It’s pretty easy to work them into your comfort game. Just ask, get a quick answer and keep moving on. You should have a pretty clear idea of the girl’s logistical situation within 10 minutes of talking to her. If you’ve got her isolated and have even made out with her, then you have NO excuse to find out everything you need to know about her logistical situation.

You MUST win over the friends: This is actually usually easier than it sounds. But it’s true. All it takes is one bitchy friend to ruin your entire night’s party plans (you know, the party in your pants). When I say, “win them over,” you don’t necessarily have to be the coolest guy on the planet when you talk to them (although that never hurts). They basically have to just get a good impression of you — like you enough to give the implicit “OK.” Typically, this is more of a matter of not fucking yourself up rather than actually winning anyone over. Guys are the easiest as well. All you have to do is be respectful to them, shake their hand, acknowledge them and they’re happy. If the guy is an orbiter, then she probably doesn’t respect his opinion anyway, so whatever.

If in the off-chance you do get a friend who’s being really bitchy, then you may need to engage her one on one and win her over. Just run straight up comfort game on them. Let them know that you’re a really nice guy and find out some about them. Tell them that you like their friend and tell them why. Be genuine and you’ll usually be set.

Plan an escape route: OK, so your girl is all over your shit. Her friends are cool with you. And her logistics are decent. It’s time to come up with an escape plan. Unfortunately, there’s no definite formula for this — it always changes based on the situation. Ideally, bringing her to your place if you have a car is ideal. But sometimes, she lives far away, or you live far away or she has a car too or you don’t have a car, etc. My only advice here is to do what is most practical — take the path with least resistance.

Having an excuse to bring her over helps sometimes as well, although I think guys overplay its usefulness. It’s really useful her friends are coming to and your wingmen is as well, the so-called “afterparty” excuse if you will. But typically, for one on one, she knows what’s up, so just saying something generic like, “I need to show you my fish,” or whatever the hell you have back home is excuse enough.

Number closing: If for whatever reason she has really bad logistics, her friend is cockblocking you or she has to go home or something, just go for the number close. The sooner you can figure this out, the better because you can move on to more sets. Another strategy that’s good to use is to build up 3-4 sets of girls, get them all interested, then try and pull the one with best logistics and take the numbers of the other ones.

Expect the unexpected: As I wrote in my post about logistics a few months ago, the number one rule of logistics is that they’re RANDOM. Shit happens. CRAZY shit happens actually, and 90% of the time it’s completely out of your control. Everything from your girl puking in the cab to someone getting shot in the club to her ex-boyfriend following you to her place, crazy shit happens in night game, so it’s best to remember to be flexible and go with things. At the end of the day, as with game in general, night game is a numbers game, and some times you just get very unlucky.

I will note though that the more attracted a girl is to you and the more connected she feels to you, the less and less logistical problems matter. I’ve had girls blow off their friends, buy me shots and pay for cabs because they were so into me. So I suppose the best way to beat logistics is to never have to worry about them.