Last night I went out with another cuban latina woman she showed alot of interst wanting to be with me,she is 37 has 2 kids,she wanted to be with me to watch "Oscars" and Cuddle.
I pace and lead her and we set up a date I picked her up from a parking lot to go to our private "oscar night"party. we ended up in a miami beach hotel room.Palmer house very awesome.
she got LMR upfront but used role playing and adventure fantasy as we are having a our Celebrity Oscars party.
we were watching TV and sametime build comfort , we started making out intensely, she started controling her horniness everytime I escalated.
at times shed stand up and go get water.at comercial breaks wed make out heavly and cuddle , Id touch her body she would pull back.
I at times escalate and pull back and she would try to please me, it was an LMR battle.back and forth.
she'd use disqualifers like :"Im too old for you" "dont think cause Im older we will have sex tonight" Id laugh and make out with her.
Id build more comfort and ran NLP routines to elicit her horny and attraction state (cosmo routine and movie star EV sexual pattern)and shed feel that state shed back off and try to change subject.
then it got to a point where I was kissing her and I kiss her neck and hair pull and lick her neck. I felt she was turned on so bad that she stood up and said she neede to go to the bathroom.
she came back and said she need to go home.
I said why soo soon oscars arent even half way (Ive been battling LMR for 1 1/2 hour)
she said "I cant.im older than you and this might get farther than i expected so i have to go."
she then she asked me if i was mad i said no.I acted like it wasnt a big deal and we left the room.
she started asking me if I was mad, I acted like I didnt care and it wasnt a big deal.
As I dropped her off during the drive we were building comfort .
she started to say that she has never been with a younger guy before and she feels uncomfrtable to be in public with me, I said "we can be discrete, whatever goes behind closed doors is between 2 adults and its nobody elses business, right"
She said that I'm smart ,creative and intellectual and rare guy throwing compliments at me I just said "thank you"
she said that alot of girls probably throw themselves at me.
she said " Im not like this on a first date or have sex on first date but wow if you are this romantic on a first date then I can imagine what you end up doing with other girls"
I said "this isnt a date its a private oscars party" ;)
As I got to her car and we kissed again and we went on our own separate ways.
now I feel she is doing PNP like the other latina cuban woman where she isnt showing interst by phone or text and wants me to chase her. and I suck at that and get needy and blow the set.
Im running into a pattern of non closure with these latina women I hope you notice whats wrong here its repeating smae scenario as groundhog day.
or should I next ? Im seeing she is LSE
Showing posts with label SNL. Show all posts
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Monday, February 28, 2011
Monday, February 14, 2011
Swinggcats emails me about closing the girl right there
You've got a belief problem, my friend.
I think location means a lot. In fact, I live in Hollywood. All I have to do is role out of bed and I'm in the clubs and bars I frequent. This makes a big difference.
But here's where things take a turn for the weird...
Years ago, I started having freaky experiences. Every once in a while when a girl was really into me or ready to go I'd discard location issues and have sex with her right there. I remember the first few times I had sex with a girl in a nightclub bathroom. I thought to myself, "Wow... this girl is really adventurous. I wish all girls were this way."
Then things got freakier and I slept with a girl in the middle of a club.
In recent years, things have changed. This shit happens to me all the time.
Quick story... This past weekend, I was leaving a bar with a friend of mine and I spotted a tall blonde sitting on a parking curb next her BMW. (She had locked the keys in her car.) So I sat down next to her, told her she was cute. She told me that she thought I was cute too. So I hugged her, started making out with her. Then I told her to lean back and I started eating her pussy. Then I told her to stand up and turn around and I started having sex with her from behind. As I was doing her male passersby were cheering me on. It really is that easy.
Yes, it's true, you could potentially get in some trouble for this kinda lewd conduct. But I think the benefits of being daring far out way the consequences.
And calibrate... not every girl is gonna be down for this. But if she's really into you or looking to get laid try. Go for the make out. If she's into that, try to lead her into the bathroom or have sex with her right there. If she already likes you, trying this won't kill the attraction - even if she resists. My point: it never hurts to try and a lot of times it works.
I think location means a lot. In fact, I live in Hollywood. All I have to do is role out of bed and I'm in the clubs and bars I frequent. This makes a big difference.
But here's where things take a turn for the weird...
Years ago, I started having freaky experiences. Every once in a while when a girl was really into me or ready to go I'd discard location issues and have sex with her right there. I remember the first few times I had sex with a girl in a nightclub bathroom. I thought to myself, "Wow... this girl is really adventurous. I wish all girls were this way."
Then things got freakier and I slept with a girl in the middle of a club.
In recent years, things have changed. This shit happens to me all the time.
Quick story... This past weekend, I was leaving a bar with a friend of mine and I spotted a tall blonde sitting on a parking curb next her BMW. (She had locked the keys in her car.) So I sat down next to her, told her she was cute. She told me that she thought I was cute too. So I hugged her, started making out with her. Then I told her to lean back and I started eating her pussy. Then I told her to stand up and turn around and I started having sex with her from behind. As I was doing her male passersby were cheering me on. It really is that easy.
Yes, it's true, you could potentially get in some trouble for this kinda lewd conduct. But I think the benefits of being daring far out way the consequences.
And calibrate... not every girl is gonna be down for this. But if she's really into you or looking to get laid try. Go for the make out. If she's into that, try to lead her into the bathroom or have sex with her right there. If she already likes you, trying this won't kill the attraction - even if she resists. My point: it never hurts to try and a lot of times it works.
Thursday, February 3, 2011
Makr's take on how to handle logistics and SNL logistics definition
So how to handle logistics?
Logistics will always:
A) Be completely random and situational
B) Be extremely random
C) Did I mention that they’re random and sometimes there’s nothing you can do?
As a result, you have to just follow a handful of guidelines and then hope for the best.
1) Gather all relevant info when you’re talking to her. This includes: where she lives, where you live, how she got there, how she’s getting home, how you got there, if she’s sharing a ride, with who, who is she with, how does she know them, when is she going home, can you get her home in the morning, when does she have to be home in the morning, etc., etc.
2) If you just met her that night, then let HER win her friends over, not you. What will typically happen when a woman decides to go home with you is her girlfriends will try to stop her or talk her out of it. The younger the girl you’re picking up, the more likely this will be. Let HER do the talking… just trust you’ve seduced her well enough to withstand the oncoming storm. Stand back and be friendly. When it comes to taking a girl home, nothing you say, no matter how charming or cool is going to make you look genuine, “No, really, I just want to show her this cool YouTube video, I promise.” You’ll look like the horny bastard you are. If she’s not willing to appease her friends for you, then you haven’t gamed her well enough.
3) Make decisions and move swiftly. Don’t waffle. Don’t ask her what she wants to do. Gather the pertinent information and make an educated decision. I.e., She came with two friends, one of which is her roommate. She lives 30 minutes away. Have her give her roommate her keys and take her home with you. Tell her what you’re going to do and then do it. If you think the only shot you have is at a bathroom pull or to the car, then do it. Just grab her and go. Make her stop you. Make her say no. If you’re on a date, tell her you want to show her something and just bring her to your place. See if she stops you. Often she won’t.
4) Be flexible. Shit happens in bars and clubs. I’ve had pulls get screwed up because the girl started puking, because her brother suddenly showed up, because her friend started spontaneously crying, because her bridesmaids pulled her away, because her ex-boyfriend punched me in the face, because SHE started spontaneously crying, because she lost her keys and got locked out of her apartment, because the cab took us to the wrong hotel, etc., etc., etc. EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED AND ADAPT.
5) Get lucky. Again, shit happens. Deal with it. Sometimes there’s literally nothing you can do.
Step 11 Exercises
Purpose: To be able to make moves and get physical with women at will.
Comments: Yet another step where you need to grab your balls. This step can be practiced anywhere, but youʼll have to spend at least a few hours with a woman to get as far as necessary, so dates are ideal. Extra time is given in the later steps, as youʼre going to need to use everything youʼve learned so far.
What You Need: New women to meet, some courage
Recommended Time for Completion: Within a month
Exercise 1
1.1 Successfully do all five of the actions on this list. It doesnʼt count unless you do it and get a GOOD reaction.
- Twirl a girl in the first 30 seconds of meeting her. (Take her hand, raise it above both of your heads and tell her to spin.)
- Keep your hand on a girl’s back for at least one minute.
- Physically pull a girl away from her friends on the approach (at least one meter)
- Hug a girl within 30 seconds of cold approaching her. This must be a random girl who has no idea who you are.
- Put your arm around a girl and leave it there for at least 30 seconds. Do this within the first 10 minutes of knowing her.
Exercise 2
2.1 Going for kisses. Go for a kiss with at least five different women. If you get rejected, you get one point per woman. If you kiss her, you get two points. Once you reach 10 points, move on.
Exercise 3
3.1 Bring a girl home who youʼve been kissing. This can be the same night, same day or from a date. Escalate as far as possible.
Please post any significant realizations, experiences or problems below.
CHALLENGES:
Challenge 1: Smack or grab a girl’s ass that you just met without her getting mad.
Challenge 2: Kiss a woman within 5 minutes of knowing her.
Challenge 3: Bring a girl home within an hour of meeting her.
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Same night lays (also sometimes referred to as single night lays) are when a PUA is able to fclose a woman on the same day that he meets her. This happens most often in sexually charged “meat market” environments such as night clubs and bars, where the girls are looking to hookup, although it is possible to get SNLs during day game as well.
Same night lays differ from one night stands, in that SNLs lead to further relationships beyond just one night of sex (whether it be FB or LTR), whereas ONSs are usually just a one time thing. Often, the difference between an ONS and an SNL, is building enough rapport so that the woman does not suffer from any buyer’s remorse. If a woman does not regret her decision to sleep with the PUA, it leaves open the opportunity for future sex.
Like ONSs, it is important for same night lays to determine the woman’s logistics. Figuring out such information such as whether she came alone or with friends, whether she has to work tomorrow, etc. are important for an SNL to go smoothly. Usually, a woman who is looking to hookup will have better logistics, and women will even ignore poor logistics if they feel attracted enough.
Another important thing to remember for SNLs is to have a strong sexual frame, and also be completely non-judgemental of the woman when it comes to her sexuality. This will help the woman sexually open up to the PUA, and keep from triggering ASD later on.
Captain Jack: Gun to the Head Gaming
Imagine this: You are sitting on your couch eating Bon-Bons with your eyes laser locked on Oprah when you hear a crack, the door flies open and 3 goons rush towards you.
You hurl your bon-bons at the goons but it doesn’t even faze them.
Next thing you know there is a gun pointed at your temple and one of them says, “Is this the guy?” The other looks at a photograph and says, “He’s not wearing the feather boa, jade necklace and high heels like in his MySpace profile but yeah, I’d say it is him.”
One of them says, “Look, Mr. Pua guy, you go out tonight and have sex with a girl or we’re going to shoot you in the face.”
Gun to the head. Shot in the face.
Do you go out and do the same thing you always do?
Do you do a few laps around the bar, have a few drinks, hover a few times, look for the perfect opening?
Not unless you enjoy face shootings.
What WOULD you do differently?
Here’s what I’d do…
1. Dress like almost everyone else but a tad better.
2. Get to the bar early. I want to get there about 10-15 minutes before the crowd does. I want to chat with the bartender a minute, chat with a waitress or two for a minute before they get ridiculously busy. Get the ol’ mouth movin’ a bit.
3. Approach as soon as possible. Even if it is “How’s it going?”
4. Watch the girls who have wandering eyes. They are looking for something.
5. Approach the girls who make eye contact.
6. Never leave a set until a few minutes after I’ve TimeBridged.
7. Set the sexual frames early.
8. Ask her “What’s on the agenda for later?”
This one needs some explaining. A lot of PUAs think this is about Logistics. It isn’t. In fact, Logistics aren’t nearly as important as everyone believes. Shocking? Not really.
Imagine this… you have plans to go bowling tonight. It’s Tuesday, you almost always go bowling on Tuesdays. One of your buddies calls you up and says,
Buddy: “What’s going on man?”
You: “Not much, just going to go bowling later, have a few beers, see if I can top my Galaga score.”
Buddy: “Sounds cool. Well, would you like to get together and sew a little bit… maybe share our feelings and shit?”
You: “Umm… Well… I always bowl on Tuesdays… kinda my normal thing and uh…”
But, what if Buddy called you up and said, “Dude… These concert tickets just fell into my lap and blah, blah, blah…”
Do you think that’d change things a bit?
Logistics matter LESS and LESS the more interested and turned on she is… I used to let logistics derail me. Now, I hardly even pay attention.
Can they fuck you up? Sure. They used to fuck me up all the time. Then, I discovered “Drunk-n-Lonely Texting.”
Focus on getting her to really, really see you as a liberator of her sexual frustrations and SHE will handle the logistics for you.
The purpose of the question is to establish in her mind that you have probably sexual intent AND you are seeking a way to create an opportunity.
9. After you have 3 or 4 TimeBridge’s set up, focus on the one who seems like your best shot. This is always a little bit of a crap shoot BUT your Intuition will grow with time.
10. Tell her she is sexy and that her mannerisms are driving you crazy. Use a Bounce statement about 30 minute prior to close.
11. If she doesn’t take the Bounce invitation, walk her to the car. Get in and say you are going to talk to her a bit. Make out with her.
12. Tell her you are not sure you can drive home and ask her if she would mind, “It’s just right down the street.” (I’ve used this a billion times for venues that are 30-45 minutes away! Haa!)
12b. As she is driving mass text the other girls and say, “Hey sexy” – just in case this one does leave you after dropping you off. This will increase the possibility of another honey coming over thus DECREASING the chance of you getting shot in the face.
13. As she’s driving begin using one or two word commands interspersed with normal conversation. “Turn here.” “Go left.” when you get to your place say, “Park here.” I like to use stop signs and stop lights as a chance to make out.
14. “Come in and get some water before you head back.”
15. Get her some water, tell her where the bathroom is… while she’s in the bathroom put on a DVD. I like “Wedding Crashers” or, “South Park: The Return of the Fellowship of the King to the Two Towers” because it is sexual in nature and hilariously funny.
16. Have her sit down on your coach. Make small talk 3-5 minutes. Kiss her again.
17. Begin escalating heavy.
18. Push her away and tell her she is naughty for doing this to you.
19. Escalate more. Spank her. Tell her she is bad. Ask her what she is doing to you.
20. Make sweet love.
Send her on her way, “And… try not to think about me constantly” as you pull her hair and kiss her deeply again.
Go into your closet and get your Flame Thrower. Wait for the knock on the door. When the Goons rush in, fling your used condom at them and then use the Flame Thrower to set them all on fire. This should make your point in a fairly dramatic way.
Captain Jack
Logistics will always:
A) Be completely random and situational
B) Be extremely random
C) Did I mention that they’re random and sometimes there’s nothing you can do?
As a result, you have to just follow a handful of guidelines and then hope for the best.
1) Gather all relevant info when you’re talking to her. This includes: where she lives, where you live, how she got there, how she’s getting home, how you got there, if she’s sharing a ride, with who, who is she with, how does she know them, when is she going home, can you get her home in the morning, when does she have to be home in the morning, etc., etc.
2) If you just met her that night, then let HER win her friends over, not you. What will typically happen when a woman decides to go home with you is her girlfriends will try to stop her or talk her out of it. The younger the girl you’re picking up, the more likely this will be. Let HER do the talking… just trust you’ve seduced her well enough to withstand the oncoming storm. Stand back and be friendly. When it comes to taking a girl home, nothing you say, no matter how charming or cool is going to make you look genuine, “No, really, I just want to show her this cool YouTube video, I promise.” You’ll look like the horny bastard you are. If she’s not willing to appease her friends for you, then you haven’t gamed her well enough.
3) Make decisions and move swiftly. Don’t waffle. Don’t ask her what she wants to do. Gather the pertinent information and make an educated decision. I.e., She came with two friends, one of which is her roommate. She lives 30 minutes away. Have her give her roommate her keys and take her home with you. Tell her what you’re going to do and then do it. If you think the only shot you have is at a bathroom pull or to the car, then do it. Just grab her and go. Make her stop you. Make her say no. If you’re on a date, tell her you want to show her something and just bring her to your place. See if she stops you. Often she won’t.
4) Be flexible. Shit happens in bars and clubs. I’ve had pulls get screwed up because the girl started puking, because her brother suddenly showed up, because her friend started spontaneously crying, because her bridesmaids pulled her away, because her ex-boyfriend punched me in the face, because SHE started spontaneously crying, because she lost her keys and got locked out of her apartment, because the cab took us to the wrong hotel, etc., etc., etc. EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED AND ADAPT.
5) Get lucky. Again, shit happens. Deal with it. Sometimes there’s literally nothing you can do.
Step 11 Exercises
Purpose: To be able to make moves and get physical with women at will.
Comments: Yet another step where you need to grab your balls. This step can be practiced anywhere, but youʼll have to spend at least a few hours with a woman to get as far as necessary, so dates are ideal. Extra time is given in the later steps, as youʼre going to need to use everything youʼve learned so far.
What You Need: New women to meet, some courage
Recommended Time for Completion: Within a month
Exercise 1
1.1 Successfully do all five of the actions on this list. It doesnʼt count unless you do it and get a GOOD reaction.
- Twirl a girl in the first 30 seconds of meeting her. (Take her hand, raise it above both of your heads and tell her to spin.)
- Keep your hand on a girl’s back for at least one minute.
- Physically pull a girl away from her friends on the approach (at least one meter)
- Hug a girl within 30 seconds of cold approaching her. This must be a random girl who has no idea who you are.
- Put your arm around a girl and leave it there for at least 30 seconds. Do this within the first 10 minutes of knowing her.
Exercise 2
2.1 Going for kisses. Go for a kiss with at least five different women. If you get rejected, you get one point per woman. If you kiss her, you get two points. Once you reach 10 points, move on.
Exercise 3
3.1 Bring a girl home who youʼve been kissing. This can be the same night, same day or from a date. Escalate as far as possible.
Please post any significant realizations, experiences or problems below.
CHALLENGES:
Challenge 1: Smack or grab a girl’s ass that you just met without her getting mad.
Challenge 2: Kiss a woman within 5 minutes of knowing her.
Challenge 3: Bring a girl home within an hour of meeting her.
--------------------------------------------------
Same night lays (also sometimes referred to as single night lays) are when a PUA is able to fclose a woman on the same day that he meets her. This happens most often in sexually charged “meat market” environments such as night clubs and bars, where the girls are looking to hookup, although it is possible to get SNLs during day game as well.
Same night lays differ from one night stands, in that SNLs lead to further relationships beyond just one night of sex (whether it be FB or LTR), whereas ONSs are usually just a one time thing. Often, the difference between an ONS and an SNL, is building enough rapport so that the woman does not suffer from any buyer’s remorse. If a woman does not regret her decision to sleep with the PUA, it leaves open the opportunity for future sex.
Like ONSs, it is important for same night lays to determine the woman’s logistics. Figuring out such information such as whether she came alone or with friends, whether she has to work tomorrow, etc. are important for an SNL to go smoothly. Usually, a woman who is looking to hookup will have better logistics, and women will even ignore poor logistics if they feel attracted enough.
Another important thing to remember for SNLs is to have a strong sexual frame, and also be completely non-judgemental of the woman when it comes to her sexuality. This will help the woman sexually open up to the PUA, and keep from triggering ASD later on.
Captain Jack: Gun to the Head Gaming
Imagine this: You are sitting on your couch eating Bon-Bons with your eyes laser locked on Oprah when you hear a crack, the door flies open and 3 goons rush towards you.
You hurl your bon-bons at the goons but it doesn’t even faze them.
Next thing you know there is a gun pointed at your temple and one of them says, “Is this the guy?” The other looks at a photograph and says, “He’s not wearing the feather boa, jade necklace and high heels like in his MySpace profile but yeah, I’d say it is him.”
One of them says, “Look, Mr. Pua guy, you go out tonight and have sex with a girl or we’re going to shoot you in the face.”
Gun to the head. Shot in the face.
Do you go out and do the same thing you always do?
Do you do a few laps around the bar, have a few drinks, hover a few times, look for the perfect opening?
Not unless you enjoy face shootings.
What WOULD you do differently?
Here’s what I’d do…
1. Dress like almost everyone else but a tad better.
2. Get to the bar early. I want to get there about 10-15 minutes before the crowd does. I want to chat with the bartender a minute, chat with a waitress or two for a minute before they get ridiculously busy. Get the ol’ mouth movin’ a bit.
3. Approach as soon as possible. Even if it is “How’s it going?”
4. Watch the girls who have wandering eyes. They are looking for something.
5. Approach the girls who make eye contact.
6. Never leave a set until a few minutes after I’ve TimeBridged.
7. Set the sexual frames early.
8. Ask her “What’s on the agenda for later?”
This one needs some explaining. A lot of PUAs think this is about Logistics. It isn’t. In fact, Logistics aren’t nearly as important as everyone believes. Shocking? Not really.
Imagine this… you have plans to go bowling tonight. It’s Tuesday, you almost always go bowling on Tuesdays. One of your buddies calls you up and says,
Buddy: “What’s going on man?”
You: “Not much, just going to go bowling later, have a few beers, see if I can top my Galaga score.”
Buddy: “Sounds cool. Well, would you like to get together and sew a little bit… maybe share our feelings and shit?”
You: “Umm… Well… I always bowl on Tuesdays… kinda my normal thing and uh…”
But, what if Buddy called you up and said, “Dude… These concert tickets just fell into my lap and blah, blah, blah…”
Do you think that’d change things a bit?
Logistics matter LESS and LESS the more interested and turned on she is… I used to let logistics derail me. Now, I hardly even pay attention.
Can they fuck you up? Sure. They used to fuck me up all the time. Then, I discovered “Drunk-n-Lonely Texting.”
Focus on getting her to really, really see you as a liberator of her sexual frustrations and SHE will handle the logistics for you.
The purpose of the question is to establish in her mind that you have probably sexual intent AND you are seeking a way to create an opportunity.
9. After you have 3 or 4 TimeBridge’s set up, focus on the one who seems like your best shot. This is always a little bit of a crap shoot BUT your Intuition will grow with time.
10. Tell her she is sexy and that her mannerisms are driving you crazy. Use a Bounce statement about 30 minute prior to close.
11. If she doesn’t take the Bounce invitation, walk her to the car. Get in and say you are going to talk to her a bit. Make out with her.
12. Tell her you are not sure you can drive home and ask her if she would mind, “It’s just right down the street.” (I’ve used this a billion times for venues that are 30-45 minutes away! Haa!)
12b. As she is driving mass text the other girls and say, “Hey sexy” – just in case this one does leave you after dropping you off. This will increase the possibility of another honey coming over thus DECREASING the chance of you getting shot in the face.
13. As she’s driving begin using one or two word commands interspersed with normal conversation. “Turn here.” “Go left.” when you get to your place say, “Park here.” I like to use stop signs and stop lights as a chance to make out.
14. “Come in and get some water before you head back.”
15. Get her some water, tell her where the bathroom is… while she’s in the bathroom put on a DVD. I like “Wedding Crashers” or, “South Park: The Return of the Fellowship of the King to the Two Towers” because it is sexual in nature and hilariously funny.
16. Have her sit down on your coach. Make small talk 3-5 minutes. Kiss her again.
17. Begin escalating heavy.
18. Push her away and tell her she is naughty for doing this to you.
19. Escalate more. Spank her. Tell her she is bad. Ask her what she is doing to you.
20. Make sweet love.
Send her on her way, “And… try not to think about me constantly” as you pull her hair and kiss her deeply again.
Go into your closet and get your Flame Thrower. Wait for the knock on the door. When the Goons rush in, fling your used condom at them and then use the Flame Thrower to set them all on fire. This should make your point in a fairly dramatic way.
Captain Jack
Sunday, January 23, 2011
justin wayne LR same day lay
Justin Wayne’s Free Lay Report : XYZ (One Day Full Close)
In Justin Wayne's Lay Reports on September 7, 2010 at 4:40 am
Hey Guys,
Yesterday, I was able to meet a random woman on the streets in the daytime and take here from Manhattan all the way to Queens to close the deal (SEX).
THE PICKUP
Basically, i was walking with my wingman Dean in Union Square in Manahattan. The last set of girls i fucked from cold approach where between ages of 18-22. This girl was in mid to late 20′s, proffesional girl with a PHD in ..umm i forgot. But anyways, I saw her walking ,and i went direct on her. I covered the three check points ( spoke to her for about 20 mins). Then we parted ways. I got her number and that was it. So an hour later, i texted her to say hi. SHe replied and said she is still in union square, so i met back up with her in Starbucks. We sat down for about 15 mins and talked. My Game plan was to basically get go for make out. So i decided to take her for a walk after the coffee, and thats where i did first kiss make out. After that, I basically had enough rapport and connection to get a solid number, but then i asked her what is she doing now, and she said “nothing”. This was my queu that i can try and fuk her same day sinc i already kissed her. It was around 9 oclock that time, so i decided to take her to a lounge with me that was close to that area. After 20 mins, I took her in a cab to queens. And then we went to my house. I had not muchlast minute resistance. then i fucked, and got blow job.
THE END.
I appreciate all you guys who are still in this game. Keep your heads up.
In Justin Wayne's Lay Reports on September 7, 2010 at 4:40 am
Hey Guys,
Yesterday, I was able to meet a random woman on the streets in the daytime and take here from Manhattan all the way to Queens to close the deal (SEX).
THE PICKUP
Basically, i was walking with my wingman Dean in Union Square in Manahattan. The last set of girls i fucked from cold approach where between ages of 18-22. This girl was in mid to late 20′s, proffesional girl with a PHD in ..umm i forgot. But anyways, I saw her walking ,and i went direct on her. I covered the three check points ( spoke to her for about 20 mins). Then we parted ways. I got her number and that was it. So an hour later, i texted her to say hi. SHe replied and said she is still in union square, so i met back up with her in Starbucks. We sat down for about 15 mins and talked. My Game plan was to basically get go for make out. So i decided to take her for a walk after the coffee, and thats where i did first kiss make out. After that, I basically had enough rapport and connection to get a solid number, but then i asked her what is she doing now, and she said “nothing”. This was my queu that i can try and fuk her same day sinc i already kissed her. It was around 9 oclock that time, so i decided to take her to a lounge with me that was close to that area. After 20 mins, I took her in a cab to queens. And then we went to my house. I had not muchlast minute resistance. then i fucked, and got blow job.
THE END.
I appreciate all you guys who are still in this game. Keep your heads up.
Tuesday, January 18, 2011
womanese and Seducing strangers in 6 minutes and VEGAS LR tipping point
Saturday, December 27, 2008
5 Typical things women say to men and what they mean.
Hey guys,
I often say that women give the best pick up advice, as long as you don’t listen to what they tell you to do. Women give their advice through their reactions. They also give their advice to you through what they say, you just have to know how to translate it.
So today in part one of my 3 part series on “Speaking Womanese” we’re going to look at some typical things women say when meeting new men, and what they actually mean.
1. “ I have a boyfriend”.
This particular phrase can mean a variety of things based on when and how it is brought up in the conversation. The first realization you have to make about girls telling you they have boyfriends, is that it’s not always true. Often times the girl will say she has a boyfriend just to avoid having to be rude or waste her time entertaining a guy she’s not interested in all night. Women will also say things like “we’re lesbians” or “we’re together” to get rid of you in a socially acceptable way.
If a woman tells you she has a boyfriend REALLY early on in the conversation (like in the first 3 minutes or less) she really means “I’m not interested in you romantically”. Women hate social awkwardness, so if she’s really not into the conversation and she can tell you’re hitting on her, saying she has a boyfriend is a nice friendly way out of the discomfort.
If a woman tells you she has a boyfriend when you are trying to escalate the interaction(by getting a phone number or trying to get her to leave with you) it generally means one of two things. Either she has let the interaction go further than she intended and she wants to let you know you don’t have a chance. Or she is trying to let you know that this may be a one time thing.
If a woman casually mentions a boyfriend by saying something like “my boyfriend and I” or “we like to..” then she is generally just letting you know the situation but may still be open to escalating the interaction. At which point it becomes an issue of morality outside the scope of this newsletter ☺
2. “We’re not having sex tonight!”
If a woman tells you she’s not going to have sex with you, she’s already thinking about it. Women throw up the “we’re not having sex tonight.” objection because they realize that things are starting to heat up between the two of you. They do this because they have to be able to maintain plausible deniability. Maintaining plausible deniability means that you always take responsibility for escalation. This goes for everything from making the first approach, to giving her an excuse she can tell her friends about why she left the club with you. Everything is your responsibility. The girl has to be able to explain to her friends that she wasn’t going back to your place to get fucked senseless. She was going over to save some money on drinks “or “ have a nightcap before she headed home.” But then “one thing led to another…”
So when she says “we’re not having sex tonight” she means “ I want you to convince me that there won’t be any consequences for me if I have sex with you tonight.” This is where showing a girl that you don’t kiss and tell is crucial. You have to show the girl that you are not going to hurt her reputation or lose respect for her if she sleeps with you.
If a woman tells you she’s not having sex with you tonight, you should always respond “ I was just about to tell you the same thing.” Ideally though you want to tell the girl that you’re not having sex with her first. I always treat that statement like the finish line of a race you want to get to first.
3. “ I don’t (kiss, have sex, have a threesome with midgets) on the (first night, first date, 3rd date).
When a woman gives you a rule like “ I don’t kiss on the first date.” Or “ I don’t have sex until the 3rd date.” She is sending a clear message. She is not sure about you. She doesn’t necessarily know if she sees you in her life long term or if you’re just some guy she’ll go on a couple of dates with and forget. So because of this she’s starting to lay down rules. Now some girls actually do have rules about their dating lives, but most don’t. Most women simply go with what’s bringing in the most good emotions. If she’s starting to get all logical she’s not that into you…
If a woman says something like this, it’s a great opportunity to inject some humor and flip the script on the girl. If a girl ever gives me a rule, I just respond “ Cool is that you’re only rule or do you have more before I get to tell you mine?” Now sometimes she’ll have some more rules, but once she’s done I’ll give her a ridiculous list of rules that I have until she’s laughing so hard she’s forgotten what we were talking about. The more random and funny the better. Some of my favorites are enforcing a casual dress Fridays where she’s not allowed to wear pants, reminding her that Tuesday is “Feed Jon Grapes and Fan him day” and more.
4. “ You’re a (jerk, player, asshole)
When a woman playfully insults you or accuses you of being a jerk, player, dirty old man, whatever… she’s actually saying “ I’m kinda attracted to you and I want to see if you’re really cool, or pretending.” Because men can lie, women have to have a way of figuring out which guys are actually cool, and which guys are faking it. So when you are getting attraction from girls early on, they will often “test” you.
The best way to deal with tests from women is to agree and exaggerate. What most guys do wrong is they disagree and then try to show a girl how they’re not a jerk or a player. This is bad because it sets an underlying theme of you trying to live up to her expectations instead of vice versa. So instead you always agree when a woman accuses or insults you. Then you exaggerate the comment to absurdity. So for example if a girl accuses you of being a player, you can say “ Yeah I’m actually pretty booked up right now but I can slot you in next Thursday if you promise to be good. “ or “ Yeah, I was actually recently voted the 6th biggest player in a mid major city by people magazine.”
5. “Let’s Just be Friends.”
When a girl you’ve just met tells you that she just wants to be friends, what she really means is that she’s not interested in you at all. Most people, especially attractive women don’t make friends from failed pickup attempts. The fact that she’s suggesting being friends means that she’s not interested in you romantically. Plus she’s worried that you’re expecting something more. If a girl tells you she just wants to be friends you’re pretty much out of luck. In rare circumstances you can escape the friend zone, but you are officially out of the “Ultimate Relationship Proposition” category. So if you actually do want to be friends with her(without it being part of a long term seduction plan) then continue to get her phone number and try to hang out with her. Just be sure to mention that you are only trying to be her friend, lest she suspect you’re trying to get in her pants. It also may be a good idea to hang out with her in a mixed group of your friends and her friends. This will help it feel less like a date the first couple of times you guys hang out. Female friends are a huge blessing. I highly recommend that everyone reading this makes friends with at least 5 women you’re interested in.
Ok, so that sums up what women really mean when they say things like “ we’re not having sex tonight” or “ Let’s Just Be Friends.” Next time I’m going to be breaking down how women communicate using body language, eye contact and spatial relevance.
Till next time,
S
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Can You Really Seduce A Stranger In A 6 Minutes
Hey guys,
Wanted to drop you a quick line today to talk about what's possible.
When I first got started in The Secret Underground Internet Seduction Community, I thought it was really difficult just to start a conversation with a stranger. Well 6 years later things are a little different, and I want to share this story from Vegas with everyone, not to brag, but to show you that ANYTHING is possible. Even consistent 6 minute seductions.
As many of you may know, I made the horrible decision to stay in Vegas for 4 days in between my first two 12 Months To Mastery bootcamps.(To learn why this was a bad idea check out my blog post on The Vegas Tipping point at http://sinnsofattraction.blogspot.com/2009/01/vegas-tipping-point.html ) Well Tuesday night Priest and I decided to hit the best party in town. Pure at Caesar's Palace. At Pure I did a number of approaches and nothing was going that well. Priest and I had a 2 set going but my girl was being way too ADD and she wasn't hot enough to get away with it :) So at around 2:30, I decide if we're going to keep gaming, we should be gaming at our hotel.
That's lesson number 1 for those of you looking to get laid fast! Know your logistics and keep them as favorable as possible. It's much harder to pull a girl from a club to a different hotel. If you can just go up an elevator, the pull becomes much easier.
So we head back to The Hard Rock. The Circle Bar was actually fairly lively for a Tuesday at 3 AM. There were a few sets and I start to look for girls who look bored, sexual, or like they want to trade up. Girls often settle for guys earlier in the night and then decide they don't like them later on. I want to find those girls. What I do to find these girls is make a rotation of the bar. However, you don't want it to look like you're "on the prowl" so you have to make a confused face like you're looking for a friend of yours. This is key to retaining social value.
The next part of super fast lays, is eye contact. You want to make searing, burning eye contact with as many girls as possible. Just make sure you still keep a smile on your face. You're looking for one of two responses. You want to approach girls who quickly break eye contact by looking down. This is a sign of sexual submission. Or you want to find girls who look away and then look back. There was a group of 3 hotties and as I was walking by, the blonde looked at me and then looked back as I walked by. I take an extra step, check my phone just cause I'm procrastinating and walk over.
I want to mention the next key point for super fast lays. Fashion and stereotyping. I was wearing a black pinstriped blazer with zippers all over it. Under that I had on a T-shirt I found in Australia with Sienna Miller flipping the bird topless, a pair of True Religion distressed jeans and my old school New Rocks. There's nothing spectacular about the outfit but it stands out without being weird. As usual I was the best dressed guy in the venue and the girls notice. If you don't get stared at or opened because of your fashion, you're doing something wrong. There are tons of great resources out there from style.com, to kinowear.com. There's no excuse for bad style, or not having an overall theme/stereotype to your look. Gone are the days when we can pretend fashion and presentation doesn't matter to getting laid. It does matter, and it's fully within your control.
After the eye contact I walked back over and said "hi" the girl immediately started telling me that she worked as a cocktail waitress at Treasure Island, she never goes out, and she's only here cause her brother's girlfriend (The Asian girl to her left) dragged her out. This is what's known as her qualifying herself to me off the opener. I now know she's attracted, it's 3 AM and she's with her brother's girlfriend. All signs are go, for the 10 minute lay. Then she asks me if I'm gay.
I get the gay thing once or twice a week, it's not a horrible problem as it allows me to escalate super fast. I say " I'm not gay and I'll prove it. Close your eyes." and then I kiss her. She practically sucks my face off. So I decide it's super on, and I'm gonna go for the 5 minute pull. I say " What are you guys up to right now?" She responds that they're waiting for her brother. I say "cool, shit I forgot my cigarettes upstairs. I'm gonna go get them." She starts to freak out her that I'm leaving, which is exactly what I wanted. this is a very subtle use of a take-away. Here I use it to gain emotional momentum to get her to come upstairs with me. She says " no, don't go! We'll get one down here." I say " Naw I only smoke Marlboro's, come upstairs with me to grab em. We'll be back before your brother gets here." She asks her friends if they're cool with that and away we go. Here, I just create some excuse for plausible deniability. As you can see it wasn't even that good of an excuse. But it worked.
Meet to elevator 3 minutes.
In the Elevator I ramp arousal. This is another key to quickies. I slam the girl against the wall, makeout with her and feel her up. Then as soon as we get to floor 4, I walk out of the elevator fast. This is a HUGE sexual push/pull. She gets aroused and starts to feel good and then it's gone. We get into the room and I throw her on the bed and pin her arms above her head. I go for the boobs then she says " When are you gonna fuck me? Before or after we smoke a cigarette? I laugh and we have sex. I look at the clock as I'm inside her and it's literally 6 minutes from when I checked my phone before going into the set.
I never would have imagined this was possible 6 years ago. But these situations happen to me all the time now. And they can happen to you too. The lesson to take out of this is not just controlling logistics in your favor, using eye contact to screen approaches, or ramping arousal as you're pulling. The real idea is that results like this are possible. A lot of times we read things like the "7 hour rule" or a girl tells us she doesn't sleep with guys right away and we get discouraged. The truth is seductions like this happen all over the world EVERY night of the week. It's just up to you to get out there and make it happen.
Til next time,
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Wednesday, January 14, 2009
The Vegas Tipping Point
Hey guys,
I want to talk about the Vegas Tipping Point. I'm not sure if this is an original thought or I stole it from Bill Simmons, but I believe Vegas has a shelf life of 48-72 hours. By the by I was just in vegas for 12 days. Not as bad as the several weeks I spent there back in late 05 but I digress. My cycle in Vegas goes something like this.
Thursday Night: Yeah Vegas!!!! I wanna drink, gamble, smoke cigarettes, see boobs, and eat horrible food. I also want to hit on as many girls as possible.
Friday Morning: Jesus I feel like death, oh well let's get a buffet lunch and lounge around til it's time to start drinking. Yeah Vegas!
Saturday Morning: Kill me, I can't believe I have to party for another night. Oh well I get to go home tomorrow at least.
Sunday Morning: Get me out of here so I can lay down and drink a tall glass of milk in a very dark room.
Add in the fact that I have to teach bootcamp until Sunday night and often have to stay until Mon morning and you can see why that cycle 4 times in 12 days is evil. I hit the tipping point of wanting to go home Monday morning when Entropy and Doc left. I should have gone home as well but had the genius idea to save a couple hundred bucks and stay in Vegas for 4 days rather than buy extra plane tickets. I was wrong. So very wrong. I did get a 6 minute lay with a cocktail waitress on Tues night and we made some good contacts, but I hate Vegas now. I never want to go back and I go back in 17 days...
This time though I'm flying in early Fri morning and leaving Sunday afternoon. This time I will obey the Tipping point.
My dad used to tell me Vegas was only for 24-48 hours. Now I understand why.
I really don't understand what it is, but my guess is it's a combination of lack of sleep, constant stimulation, everything bad in the world all available in one place, no nature, and 02 being pumped into you at all times.
Bad times my friends, bad times indeed.
As a final illustration of my point I'll offer Entropy's last night. We were all too tired to go clubbing, so we drank in my room instead. Myself, Priest and Entropy drank two and a half bottles of vodka and a handle of Jack Daniels. Then at 3:30 AM we decided it's a good idea to go gambling. Since I always lose at the Hard Rock where we were staying, we go to Wild Bill's across the street. I then proceed to break my "no trips to an ATM while gambling" rule lose a lot of money and drink more. We then ate nachos and potato skins. This was a "chill" night in Vegas. Entropy was still drunk when he got on a plane 3 hours later.
I stayed for 9 more days of shit like that.
S
5 Typical things women say to men and what they mean.
Hey guys,
I often say that women give the best pick up advice, as long as you don’t listen to what they tell you to do. Women give their advice through their reactions. They also give their advice to you through what they say, you just have to know how to translate it.
So today in part one of my 3 part series on “Speaking Womanese” we’re going to look at some typical things women say when meeting new men, and what they actually mean.
1. “ I have a boyfriend”.
This particular phrase can mean a variety of things based on when and how it is brought up in the conversation. The first realization you have to make about girls telling you they have boyfriends, is that it’s not always true. Often times the girl will say she has a boyfriend just to avoid having to be rude or waste her time entertaining a guy she’s not interested in all night. Women will also say things like “we’re lesbians” or “we’re together” to get rid of you in a socially acceptable way.
If a woman tells you she has a boyfriend REALLY early on in the conversation (like in the first 3 minutes or less) she really means “I’m not interested in you romantically”. Women hate social awkwardness, so if she’s really not into the conversation and she can tell you’re hitting on her, saying she has a boyfriend is a nice friendly way out of the discomfort.
If a woman tells you she has a boyfriend when you are trying to escalate the interaction(by getting a phone number or trying to get her to leave with you) it generally means one of two things. Either she has let the interaction go further than she intended and she wants to let you know you don’t have a chance. Or she is trying to let you know that this may be a one time thing.
If a woman casually mentions a boyfriend by saying something like “my boyfriend and I” or “we like to..” then she is generally just letting you know the situation but may still be open to escalating the interaction. At which point it becomes an issue of morality outside the scope of this newsletter ☺
2. “We’re not having sex tonight!”
If a woman tells you she’s not going to have sex with you, she’s already thinking about it. Women throw up the “we’re not having sex tonight.” objection because they realize that things are starting to heat up between the two of you. They do this because they have to be able to maintain plausible deniability. Maintaining plausible deniability means that you always take responsibility for escalation. This goes for everything from making the first approach, to giving her an excuse she can tell her friends about why she left the club with you. Everything is your responsibility. The girl has to be able to explain to her friends that she wasn’t going back to your place to get fucked senseless. She was going over to save some money on drinks “or “ have a nightcap before she headed home.” But then “one thing led to another…”
So when she says “we’re not having sex tonight” she means “ I want you to convince me that there won’t be any consequences for me if I have sex with you tonight.” This is where showing a girl that you don’t kiss and tell is crucial. You have to show the girl that you are not going to hurt her reputation or lose respect for her if she sleeps with you.
If a woman tells you she’s not having sex with you tonight, you should always respond “ I was just about to tell you the same thing.” Ideally though you want to tell the girl that you’re not having sex with her first. I always treat that statement like the finish line of a race you want to get to first.
3. “ I don’t (kiss, have sex, have a threesome with midgets) on the (first night, first date, 3rd date).
When a woman gives you a rule like “ I don’t kiss on the first date.” Or “ I don’t have sex until the 3rd date.” She is sending a clear message. She is not sure about you. She doesn’t necessarily know if she sees you in her life long term or if you’re just some guy she’ll go on a couple of dates with and forget. So because of this she’s starting to lay down rules. Now some girls actually do have rules about their dating lives, but most don’t. Most women simply go with what’s bringing in the most good emotions. If she’s starting to get all logical she’s not that into you…
If a woman says something like this, it’s a great opportunity to inject some humor and flip the script on the girl. If a girl ever gives me a rule, I just respond “ Cool is that you’re only rule or do you have more before I get to tell you mine?” Now sometimes she’ll have some more rules, but once she’s done I’ll give her a ridiculous list of rules that I have until she’s laughing so hard she’s forgotten what we were talking about. The more random and funny the better. Some of my favorites are enforcing a casual dress Fridays where she’s not allowed to wear pants, reminding her that Tuesday is “Feed Jon Grapes and Fan him day” and more.
4. “ You’re a (jerk, player, asshole)
When a woman playfully insults you or accuses you of being a jerk, player, dirty old man, whatever… she’s actually saying “ I’m kinda attracted to you and I want to see if you’re really cool, or pretending.” Because men can lie, women have to have a way of figuring out which guys are actually cool, and which guys are faking it. So when you are getting attraction from girls early on, they will often “test” you.
The best way to deal with tests from women is to agree and exaggerate. What most guys do wrong is they disagree and then try to show a girl how they’re not a jerk or a player. This is bad because it sets an underlying theme of you trying to live up to her expectations instead of vice versa. So instead you always agree when a woman accuses or insults you. Then you exaggerate the comment to absurdity. So for example if a girl accuses you of being a player, you can say “ Yeah I’m actually pretty booked up right now but I can slot you in next Thursday if you promise to be good. “ or “ Yeah, I was actually recently voted the 6th biggest player in a mid major city by people magazine.”
5. “Let’s Just be Friends.”
When a girl you’ve just met tells you that she just wants to be friends, what she really means is that she’s not interested in you at all. Most people, especially attractive women don’t make friends from failed pickup attempts. The fact that she’s suggesting being friends means that she’s not interested in you romantically. Plus she’s worried that you’re expecting something more. If a girl tells you she just wants to be friends you’re pretty much out of luck. In rare circumstances you can escape the friend zone, but you are officially out of the “Ultimate Relationship Proposition” category. So if you actually do want to be friends with her(without it being part of a long term seduction plan) then continue to get her phone number and try to hang out with her. Just be sure to mention that you are only trying to be her friend, lest she suspect you’re trying to get in her pants. It also may be a good idea to hang out with her in a mixed group of your friends and her friends. This will help it feel less like a date the first couple of times you guys hang out. Female friends are a huge blessing. I highly recommend that everyone reading this makes friends with at least 5 women you’re interested in.
Ok, so that sums up what women really mean when they say things like “ we’re not having sex tonight” or “ Let’s Just Be Friends.” Next time I’m going to be breaking down how women communicate using body language, eye contact and spatial relevance.
Till next time,
S
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Can You Really Seduce A Stranger In A 6 Minutes
Hey guys,
Wanted to drop you a quick line today to talk about what's possible.
When I first got started in The Secret Underground Internet Seduction Community, I thought it was really difficult just to start a conversation with a stranger. Well 6 years later things are a little different, and I want to share this story from Vegas with everyone, not to brag, but to show you that ANYTHING is possible. Even consistent 6 minute seductions.
As many of you may know, I made the horrible decision to stay in Vegas for 4 days in between my first two 12 Months To Mastery bootcamps.(To learn why this was a bad idea check out my blog post on The Vegas Tipping point at http://sinnsofattraction.blogspot.com/2009/01/vegas-tipping-point.html ) Well Tuesday night Priest and I decided to hit the best party in town. Pure at Caesar's Palace. At Pure I did a number of approaches and nothing was going that well. Priest and I had a 2 set going but my girl was being way too ADD and she wasn't hot enough to get away with it :) So at around 2:30, I decide if we're going to keep gaming, we should be gaming at our hotel.
That's lesson number 1 for those of you looking to get laid fast! Know your logistics and keep them as favorable as possible. It's much harder to pull a girl from a club to a different hotel. If you can just go up an elevator, the pull becomes much easier.
So we head back to The Hard Rock. The Circle Bar was actually fairly lively for a Tuesday at 3 AM. There were a few sets and I start to look for girls who look bored, sexual, or like they want to trade up. Girls often settle for guys earlier in the night and then decide they don't like them later on. I want to find those girls. What I do to find these girls is make a rotation of the bar. However, you don't want it to look like you're "on the prowl" so you have to make a confused face like you're looking for a friend of yours. This is key to retaining social value.
The next part of super fast lays, is eye contact. You want to make searing, burning eye contact with as many girls as possible. Just make sure you still keep a smile on your face. You're looking for one of two responses. You want to approach girls who quickly break eye contact by looking down. This is a sign of sexual submission. Or you want to find girls who look away and then look back. There was a group of 3 hotties and as I was walking by, the blonde looked at me and then looked back as I walked by. I take an extra step, check my phone just cause I'm procrastinating and walk over.
I want to mention the next key point for super fast lays. Fashion and stereotyping. I was wearing a black pinstriped blazer with zippers all over it. Under that I had on a T-shirt I found in Australia with Sienna Miller flipping the bird topless, a pair of True Religion distressed jeans and my old school New Rocks. There's nothing spectacular about the outfit but it stands out without being weird. As usual I was the best dressed guy in the venue and the girls notice. If you don't get stared at or opened because of your fashion, you're doing something wrong. There are tons of great resources out there from style.com, to kinowear.com. There's no excuse for bad style, or not having an overall theme/stereotype to your look. Gone are the days when we can pretend fashion and presentation doesn't matter to getting laid. It does matter, and it's fully within your control.
After the eye contact I walked back over and said "hi" the girl immediately started telling me that she worked as a cocktail waitress at Treasure Island, she never goes out, and she's only here cause her brother's girlfriend (The Asian girl to her left) dragged her out. This is what's known as her qualifying herself to me off the opener. I now know she's attracted, it's 3 AM and she's with her brother's girlfriend. All signs are go, for the 10 minute lay. Then she asks me if I'm gay.
I get the gay thing once or twice a week, it's not a horrible problem as it allows me to escalate super fast. I say " I'm not gay and I'll prove it. Close your eyes." and then I kiss her. She practically sucks my face off. So I decide it's super on, and I'm gonna go for the 5 minute pull. I say " What are you guys up to right now?" She responds that they're waiting for her brother. I say "cool, shit I forgot my cigarettes upstairs. I'm gonna go get them." She starts to freak out her that I'm leaving, which is exactly what I wanted. this is a very subtle use of a take-away. Here I use it to gain emotional momentum to get her to come upstairs with me. She says " no, don't go! We'll get one down here." I say " Naw I only smoke Marlboro's, come upstairs with me to grab em. We'll be back before your brother gets here." She asks her friends if they're cool with that and away we go. Here, I just create some excuse for plausible deniability. As you can see it wasn't even that good of an excuse. But it worked.
Meet to elevator 3 minutes.
In the Elevator I ramp arousal. This is another key to quickies. I slam the girl against the wall, makeout with her and feel her up. Then as soon as we get to floor 4, I walk out of the elevator fast. This is a HUGE sexual push/pull. She gets aroused and starts to feel good and then it's gone. We get into the room and I throw her on the bed and pin her arms above her head. I go for the boobs then she says " When are you gonna fuck me? Before or after we smoke a cigarette? I laugh and we have sex. I look at the clock as I'm inside her and it's literally 6 minutes from when I checked my phone before going into the set.
I never would have imagined this was possible 6 years ago. But these situations happen to me all the time now. And they can happen to you too. The lesson to take out of this is not just controlling logistics in your favor, using eye contact to screen approaches, or ramping arousal as you're pulling. The real idea is that results like this are possible. A lot of times we read things like the "7 hour rule" or a girl tells us she doesn't sleep with guys right away and we get discouraged. The truth is seductions like this happen all over the world EVERY night of the week. It's just up to you to get out there and make it happen.
Til next time,
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Wednesday, January 14, 2009
The Vegas Tipping Point
Hey guys,
I want to talk about the Vegas Tipping Point. I'm not sure if this is an original thought or I stole it from Bill Simmons, but I believe Vegas has a shelf life of 48-72 hours. By the by I was just in vegas for 12 days. Not as bad as the several weeks I spent there back in late 05 but I digress. My cycle in Vegas goes something like this.
Thursday Night: Yeah Vegas!!!! I wanna drink, gamble, smoke cigarettes, see boobs, and eat horrible food. I also want to hit on as many girls as possible.
Friday Morning: Jesus I feel like death, oh well let's get a buffet lunch and lounge around til it's time to start drinking. Yeah Vegas!
Saturday Morning: Kill me, I can't believe I have to party for another night. Oh well I get to go home tomorrow at least.
Sunday Morning: Get me out of here so I can lay down and drink a tall glass of milk in a very dark room.
Add in the fact that I have to teach bootcamp until Sunday night and often have to stay until Mon morning and you can see why that cycle 4 times in 12 days is evil. I hit the tipping point of wanting to go home Monday morning when Entropy and Doc left. I should have gone home as well but had the genius idea to save a couple hundred bucks and stay in Vegas for 4 days rather than buy extra plane tickets. I was wrong. So very wrong. I did get a 6 minute lay with a cocktail waitress on Tues night and we made some good contacts, but I hate Vegas now. I never want to go back and I go back in 17 days...
This time though I'm flying in early Fri morning and leaving Sunday afternoon. This time I will obey the Tipping point.
My dad used to tell me Vegas was only for 24-48 hours. Now I understand why.
I really don't understand what it is, but my guess is it's a combination of lack of sleep, constant stimulation, everything bad in the world all available in one place, no nature, and 02 being pumped into you at all times.
Bad times my friends, bad times indeed.
As a final illustration of my point I'll offer Entropy's last night. We were all too tired to go clubbing, so we drank in my room instead. Myself, Priest and Entropy drank two and a half bottles of vodka and a handle of Jack Daniels. Then at 3:30 AM we decided it's a good idea to go gambling. Since I always lose at the Hard Rock where we were staying, we go to Wild Bill's across the street. I then proceed to break my "no trips to an ATM while gambling" rule lose a lot of money and drink more. We then ate nachos and potato skins. This was a "chill" night in Vegas. Entropy was still drunk when he got on a plane 3 hours later.
I stayed for 9 more days of shit like that.
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Thursday, December 16, 2010
FR: SNL fuckup at CVS franco and JESSE Charger comments on sticking points
It was Saturday, around midnight I was coming from a party and went to local CVS/Walgreens to buy a marker.
I went in and was for a few minutes as I turn at the end of the aisle a girl with her PJ on makes sexual eye contact and I smile and she smiles back.
she was entering the aisle as I was turning so distance between each other was less than 3 feet away from personal space.She hold eye contact as I hold it as well and I smiled back. I at first didnt realize it until seconds later that I should have apparoched.
then as Im fighting with myself to talk with her and what to say or go direct or whatever stupidity that was keeping me.
I went towards the cashier to pay and she is with her cart at the aisle and she is looking at me from a far playing wiht her hair or IOIing.
it was 12:15 am.
I wait abit as Im looking for change or whatever and pay.
I go out and think what to do , and was texting myself as asking myself what to do in midst of uncertainty.
I felt I was now being creepy if I approached her as I'm outside the store, but it was clear at that moment that that type of IOI and sexual energy from her and me towards her at this time of night is looking for company aka sex.
I see her leave in her car and as I at the light she gets next to my car in her car,we get to the light and next to each other in our cars and its obvious that I should do something.
I get a text from a friend out of the blue and tell him whats going on, he LOL'd cause he never had that happen to him.
Anyways,
I didnt open nor approached , I hesitated and didnt know if I was creepying her out.
I know masculinity was what was going to take to make this work and waht she was waiting for.
next she turns and say fuck it,
Then she reepears next to me in her car, I didnt find courage to turn my head or what to do again we are at stop light already blocks away from the store.
then we drive near the motels section of miami and she gets in front of me and turns to right. then as I drive I she she turned and was waiting or had been waiting half a block.
Anywyas I was confused whether she thought I was following her or theres something wrong with my inner game or way of thinking when some girl opens that window to have sex or IOI's without my doing anything.
Afterwards I wanted to beat myself up cause I didnt do anything which was stupid of me cause this never happened to me.
Typical community advice poisons men's minds by saying we have to try hard to get women.When there can be situation where you dont have to do anythign but talk to her and pace and lead to sex.
I think it would have been awful calibration if i NEGGED the woman for looking at me sexually rather than use that energy of sex and escalate.
Still I would like to hear anyone would have done in this situation feel free to comment aby observations
thanks
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>Typical community advice poisons men's minds by saying we have to try hard to get women.When there >can be situation where you dont have to do anythign but talk to her and pace and lead to sex.
Exactly. What happened was a "dead approach invitation." What she was doing was giving you an approach invitation. When a woman gives an approach invitation you have a few seconds to respond. At that point instead of messing with your own brain thinking "what kind of technique" I can use on this girl you simply get rapport and open.
>I think it would have been awful calibration if i NEGGED the woman for looking at me sexually rather >than use that energy of sex and escalate.
Agree. If you neg a woman who is giving you an approach invitation you are doing a miscalibration. She is doing something positive, she is showing interest. Negging her on that is a mistake.
>Still I would like to hear anyone would have done in this situation feel free to comment aby observations
>thanks[/quote]
One can be busy with other stuff and not have the time to react on approach invitations. The best way of dealing with approach invitations is to either respond with rapport under seconds or not respond ad all and forget her. If you do not respond fast on approach invitation you have lost the chance but that does not need to become an obsession!Cheers, Franco
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Well how about just "hi"? Always works for me...
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Originally Posted by Sandee
I hesitated cause the night before I tried taking a girl I met to a Motel here in miami to have sex and she freaked out when I took her there, eventhough minutes before at the beach that night I was fingering and making out with her.
Weird or my miscalibration?
I think that this particular situation was because you pushed to fast, but without possibility of real close... The girl probably knew the sex was coming, but the way you approached the seduction may have been too pushy (not enought pulling).
Also what I'd suggest to you, in general, (and this might contradict a lot of other literature) is when you are under too much pressure, just let the opportunity pass and relax. You are just not ready at this specific time. The best think to do it to start from small talk with somebody with who you can communicate to avoid and to get used to pressure, so later you can do a normal approach.
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I wanted to edit the name of this post to
"FR:missed casual encounter for sex at latenight drugstrore"
I would have said hi,
I know this I fucked up , but I know its on and we are at a drugstore and she is horny...and we are both in cars so I never had this issue.
I'm sure I didnt need to makeout necesarily, but needed to subcommunicate sex is going to happen but not verbalize it and timebridge to share a late night dessert together and BOOM close..
in the past,pregame I pick-up a girl from a pharmacy and she was outside waiting , I offered her a ride cause it was late and bad neighbourhood.
she gave me a hesitant physical shit test and I acted cool.I was casual not wanting anything just chillin', minutes in the car I bought and invited her beer from the store, we cruised around for 20 minutes and I remember I AFC'd and I asked her where you want to go? and she said anywhere,I dont mind...I assumed and took her straight to motel and she fucked me hard and wanted more and more.That was one of the night I will never forget.
I never saw her again cause when a week later passed by , she was with a man.her BF or husband whatever.
I never had a chance to ask her for her phone.
I also had a woman whom I met and she gave me physical shit test before going up to her place,we both didnt have time for a date and just met her, I texted her to meetup and called her, I told her that "its too bad that we wont be able to see each other that we are both busy? " she then went horny sexual on the phone about her wanting to suck my cock...I just responded
"you are something arent you what am I going to do with you ? "
( in a deep sexual tone of voice ) I told her where she lives by and she told me, then I asked her
"how many minutes do you need to get ready?" she said 15, I said cool and hanged up.
I took a shower , I made sure to look sexy, got there called her...she wasnt that cute but she was ready to go by her vibe and on the phone.
she was stalling and I just spoke with a deep voice and noticed her congruence testing me non verbally,physical shit test ,
I just stared at her with eye contact with a sly sexy smile...and she invited me up....I was talking to her for abit about myself and as she opened the door to her appartment she got on her knees and wanted to suck on my dick, I unziped my jeans and she was sucking it like it was delicious candy.
we had sex and I remmember I made her squirt and she wanted anal, iwas partially leading but she was just out of control horny and I LOVED IT! We dirty talked and I aksed her if she wanted to cocks inside her and I used a dildo to DP her while I was inside her...she said it was amazing..
afterwards. I never saw her again.eventhough I exchanged emails her telling that we should do it again sometime...but she was supposed to move to midwest soon so we lost touch.
Last encounters like this when you asked about her afterwards or kindah seeking rapport....it make it look really needy and clingy.
The girl would get turned off I guess, So I dont do that.
Im surprised anyone hasnt posted any comments here,has this not ever happend to anyone? a casual encounter for sex ?
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Sandee, I'm going to answer your first post.
Now that you're thinking about this girl in retrospect, it's obvious she was down for sex and she was giving you lots of huge, blatant IOIs and signals.
And you're kicking yourself that you did nothing to respond, playing it cold instead.
I think you had a mismatch in energies. She was in a very outward state, and you were in a very inward state, inside your head. You probably weren't smiling and thinking about an intellectual task at hand.
It would be like as if you were doing math problems and deep in thought, and then suddenly found yourself teleported into a dance club. You'd be thrown off, and freeze up.
It's best if when you're out you have that "inner smile" and checking out the chicks and horny and ready for anything and everything to go down.
But it's so rare and strange that girl is just ready to fuck like a female dog in heat, that we get lazy about being in an outward state.
So what's my advice to you ultimately in this case? My suggestion is that perhaps the problem occurred BEFORE you ever got to the CVS.
So is there anyway your state and mindset could have been different when you casually go out, so that when this opportunity arises, you're mentally ready to take advantage of it?
I went in and was for a few minutes as I turn at the end of the aisle a girl with her PJ on makes sexual eye contact and I smile and she smiles back.
she was entering the aisle as I was turning so distance between each other was less than 3 feet away from personal space.She hold eye contact as I hold it as well and I smiled back. I at first didnt realize it until seconds later that I should have apparoched.
then as Im fighting with myself to talk with her and what to say or go direct or whatever stupidity that was keeping me.
I went towards the cashier to pay and she is with her cart at the aisle and she is looking at me from a far playing wiht her hair or IOIing.
it was 12:15 am.
I wait abit as Im looking for change or whatever and pay.
I go out and think what to do , and was texting myself as asking myself what to do in midst of uncertainty.
I felt I was now being creepy if I approached her as I'm outside the store, but it was clear at that moment that that type of IOI and sexual energy from her and me towards her at this time of night is looking for company aka sex.
I see her leave in her car and as I at the light she gets next to my car in her car,we get to the light and next to each other in our cars and its obvious that I should do something.
I get a text from a friend out of the blue and tell him whats going on, he LOL'd cause he never had that happen to him.
Anyways,
I didnt open nor approached , I hesitated and didnt know if I was creepying her out.
I know masculinity was what was going to take to make this work and waht she was waiting for.
next she turns and say fuck it,
Then she reepears next to me in her car, I didnt find courage to turn my head or what to do again we are at stop light already blocks away from the store.
then we drive near the motels section of miami and she gets in front of me and turns to right. then as I drive I she she turned and was waiting or had been waiting half a block.
Anywyas I was confused whether she thought I was following her or theres something wrong with my inner game or way of thinking when some girl opens that window to have sex or IOI's without my doing anything.
Afterwards I wanted to beat myself up cause I didnt do anything which was stupid of me cause this never happened to me.
Typical community advice poisons men's minds by saying we have to try hard to get women.When there can be situation where you dont have to do anythign but talk to her and pace and lead to sex.
I think it would have been awful calibration if i NEGGED the woman for looking at me sexually rather than use that energy of sex and escalate.
Still I would like to hear anyone would have done in this situation feel free to comment aby observations
thanks
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>Typical community advice poisons men's minds by saying we have to try hard to get women.When there >can be situation where you dont have to do anythign but talk to her and pace and lead to sex.
Exactly. What happened was a "dead approach invitation." What she was doing was giving you an approach invitation. When a woman gives an approach invitation you have a few seconds to respond. At that point instead of messing with your own brain thinking "what kind of technique" I can use on this girl you simply get rapport and open.
>I think it would have been awful calibration if i NEGGED the woman for looking at me sexually rather >than use that energy of sex and escalate.
Agree. If you neg a woman who is giving you an approach invitation you are doing a miscalibration. She is doing something positive, she is showing interest. Negging her on that is a mistake.
>Still I would like to hear anyone would have done in this situation feel free to comment aby observations
>thanks[/quote]
One can be busy with other stuff and not have the time to react on approach invitations. The best way of dealing with approach invitations is to either respond with rapport under seconds or not respond ad all and forget her. If you do not respond fast on approach invitation you have lost the chance but that does not need to become an obsession!Cheers, Franco
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Well how about just "hi"? Always works for me...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandee
I hesitated cause the night before I tried taking a girl I met to a Motel here in miami to have sex and she freaked out when I took her there, eventhough minutes before at the beach that night I was fingering and making out with her.
Weird or my miscalibration?
I think that this particular situation was because you pushed to fast, but without possibility of real close... The girl probably knew the sex was coming, but the way you approached the seduction may have been too pushy (not enought pulling).
Also what I'd suggest to you, in general, (and this might contradict a lot of other literature) is when you are under too much pressure, just let the opportunity pass and relax. You are just not ready at this specific time. The best think to do it to start from small talk with somebody with who you can communicate to avoid and to get used to pressure, so later you can do a normal approach.
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I wanted to edit the name of this post to
"FR:missed casual encounter for sex at latenight drugstrore"
I would have said hi,
I know this I fucked up , but I know its on and we are at a drugstore and she is horny...and we are both in cars so I never had this issue.
I'm sure I didnt need to makeout necesarily, but needed to subcommunicate sex is going to happen but not verbalize it and timebridge to share a late night dessert together and BOOM close..
in the past,pregame I pick-up a girl from a pharmacy and she was outside waiting , I offered her a ride cause it was late and bad neighbourhood.
she gave me a hesitant physical shit test and I acted cool.I was casual not wanting anything just chillin', minutes in the car I bought and invited her beer from the store, we cruised around for 20 minutes and I remember I AFC'd and I asked her where you want to go? and she said anywhere,I dont mind...I assumed and took her straight to motel and she fucked me hard and wanted more and more.That was one of the night I will never forget.
I never saw her again cause when a week later passed by , she was with a man.her BF or husband whatever.
I never had a chance to ask her for her phone.
I also had a woman whom I met and she gave me physical shit test before going up to her place,we both didnt have time for a date and just met her, I texted her to meetup and called her, I told her that "its too bad that we wont be able to see each other that we are both busy? " she then went horny sexual on the phone about her wanting to suck my cock...I just responded
"you are something arent you what am I going to do with you ? "
( in a deep sexual tone of voice ) I told her where she lives by and she told me, then I asked her
"how many minutes do you need to get ready?" she said 15, I said cool and hanged up.
I took a shower , I made sure to look sexy, got there called her...she wasnt that cute but she was ready to go by her vibe and on the phone.
she was stalling and I just spoke with a deep voice and noticed her congruence testing me non verbally,physical shit test ,
I just stared at her with eye contact with a sly sexy smile...and she invited me up....I was talking to her for abit about myself and as she opened the door to her appartment she got on her knees and wanted to suck on my dick, I unziped my jeans and she was sucking it like it was delicious candy.
we had sex and I remmember I made her squirt and she wanted anal, iwas partially leading but she was just out of control horny and I LOVED IT! We dirty talked and I aksed her if she wanted to cocks inside her and I used a dildo to DP her while I was inside her...she said it was amazing..
afterwards. I never saw her again.eventhough I exchanged emails her telling that we should do it again sometime...but she was supposed to move to midwest soon so we lost touch.
Last encounters like this when you asked about her afterwards or kindah seeking rapport....it make it look really needy and clingy.
The girl would get turned off I guess, So I dont do that.
Im surprised anyone hasnt posted any comments here,has this not ever happend to anyone? a casual encounter for sex ?
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Sandee, I'm going to answer your first post.
Now that you're thinking about this girl in retrospect, it's obvious she was down for sex and she was giving you lots of huge, blatant IOIs and signals.
And you're kicking yourself that you did nothing to respond, playing it cold instead.
I think you had a mismatch in energies. She was in a very outward state, and you were in a very inward state, inside your head. You probably weren't smiling and thinking about an intellectual task at hand.
It would be like as if you were doing math problems and deep in thought, and then suddenly found yourself teleported into a dance club. You'd be thrown off, and freeze up.
It's best if when you're out you have that "inner smile" and checking out the chicks and horny and ready for anything and everything to go down.
But it's so rare and strange that girl is just ready to fuck like a female dog in heat, that we get lazy about being in an outward state.
So what's my advice to you ultimately in this case? My suggestion is that perhaps the problem occurred BEFORE you ever got to the CVS.
So is there anyway your state and mindset could have been different when you casually go out, so that when this opportunity arises, you're mentally ready to take advantage of it?
Wednesday, December 15, 2010
FR:Girl lonely at a bar at 3am and I get AMOGd by chodes
Hello Sandros,
First of all get rid of negative frames like "failed seduction" they stuff your mind with emotions which impair your game.
There is no failure: only feedback.
let´s examine the feedback we can get from this case:
papa sandros wrote:
This FR is very very RAW I worte it out of bein a littel upset and tipsy...and its unedited.
>then she said she was looking for the bartender that told >her that he wanted to fuck her in a direct way....She siad >guys being direct turned her on.....I was like that sounds >cool but he isnt here tonight ...
This can mean two things:
1. She is telling you how to seduce her = she wants you to be a direct mother fucker in order to have her agree to have sex with you.
or ( this is more likely to be true)
2. She is a cock teaser..
The strategy is different depending on which one of the two.
>she said she wasnt happy and unemployed.
>I DIDNT KNOW HOW TO RESPOND WO COMING OFF TOO >SUBSERVIANT and TURN IT INTO A POSITIVE THING
When a girl gives you a too over sexual clue stop talking about anything connected with sex. If she is a cock teaser she will use that to betaise you.
Instead work on the principle: "Don´t explicate, demonstrate"
I would comment to this like
"Oh nice to hear that the guy wants you to have a great time"
And then I would stop any discussion connected with sex and focus on isolating her.
The asshole part of me I would put out when we are in isolation.
>so I just said" Im student now so its kidah hard on myself >too ,just waiting to finish"
>as I went into asking if she read cosmo to transition to >transition into sex talk she says NO! and she is more of GQ >girl and grew up with liking guys stuff... I DIDNT KNOW >HOW TO RECOVER !
She is telling you she is a masculine girl, maybe Daddy´s daughter.
This is the kind of girl who likes to be taken by a muscular gym teacher who teaches her how to pump iron and then fucks her.
If... she is not cock teasing you.. see there are Freak girls around who enjoy getting the guys to the edge of their sexual desire and then.. disappear.
>I said Im going to restroom be back and she said she go out >for a smoke..
>I came back and chodes were surrounding her.. CHODE >LEERING and PEERING
Giving her the attention she was craving for when she went to the bar. Notice: I said attention, not sex.
>I intro myself and they left play pool...for now ...but they >keep looking over in spectator mode.
>since I noticed her IOI another guy chode amogs
>to spike her BT I took out my fake 80's DG sunglasses and >put it on her
>and seed the timebridge with friend and afterhours,
>"I want you to come with me it will be fun", she said no I >cant I live nearby and I m just hanging out ..... ( yeah >hanging out at 3am
>what are you talking about?!)
Ok you could have said: "I am sure you have a nice kitchen. Let´s go to have a look at your kitchen" See the only way to f.close her is to have her away from the place she gets attention.. if she refuses isolation in spite of a very self-confident approach from you that means she will be there all the night fishing for attention and "maybe" go for the sex .. or go home alone.
>THE AMOG SCENE : then I fluff talk but she kept looking >around and "whsperer amog" comes to side he doesnt know >her, whisperes in her ear she looks at me and she laughs >and looks at him...
Well she is playing the field for attention. See, remember this: for women and especially of the Freak type attention is far more important than sex.
You need to remember on what she focuses in her game..
>I then interupt and introduce myslef ..he doesnt comply >and walks off but keeps looking at her while he is playing >darts ...
>I start preping and SOI, she then starts feeling tension from >getting all female attention from the venue and she keeps >looking at pool table and darts side while Im talking to her...
>I then say " HEY! look at me Im talking to you! HELLO!" kind >of in a dominant way ( NOT SURE ITF THIS IS OK OR FUCK >UP)
>she says like "yes" she looks right at me ...I go into story on >female sex or natural women patter type improv I was doing >and
>I told her to "OK, lets go gt out of here"
>she was like " Im staying here sorry Im not thet type of girl"
See: fishing for attention. She is the same girl who told you that the bartender told he wants to fuck her and that she likes direct men.
So: she is cock teasing you. Using the sex hook to get attention..
>I was like " Shut up! shut up right now! I think your are >cute and want to be with you"
>whisperer taps on her shoulder to come play darts ...
>keeps whisperering again and I say "dude whats up man! " in >a pissed way a little but subcommunication of wtf are you >doing?!
>he wonders off but keeps looking...
>she looks at me hard eye contact like sexual tension >building but says
>" last time I had a one night stand I ended up in a >relationship , Im just going to play darts and pool with the >boys"
Ok she wants to make sure that if she has sex you will not become the jealous possessive boy who stalks her..
amoggs came to check in and say "is everything alright?" I said yes and she just looked and he left but kept leering...
>I said " Do you want to come with me? I really like to fuck >you in the ass" and smiled with a smirk ala benicio del toro >in traffic
>she stared at me for congruence test and said
>"I'd really like that ...but Im not going to do that "
Ok she told you plain that she is enjoying the teasing game she is doing in the bar and the attention of the boys and having fun cock teasing guys.
Next time a girl tries to cock tease you with sex what you have to do is to shift the game to something boring and neutral like financial news and politics and then escalate on her with your kino without saying a word about sex.
She asks: "What you are doing?" when you touch her hand
You say: "I think next year the financial forecast is getting better" and put your hand on her ass..
If you do not verbalize SEX or anything else she will be forced to submit to kino of push you away which will ruin her need for communication and need for cock teasing you..
>" So, Im going to go play pool now.."
>I was like " You are soo full of shit ; ) " and I left...kindah >of upset and yet didnt pull....
Now nice to be cock teased.. next time you will be better with cock teasers.
Jesse comments:
[QUOTE=Jesse Charger;4747]Cool, she's giving you tips how to get her.
Just ignore it. don't react.
You handled this okay. Just ignore him.
Breaking rapport tonality? Loud? That's the way to go.
Have you touched her yet? You should be touching her in some way pretty quickly into the interaction.
If you're going to give compliments late in the interaction, they should be either
a) hard core outrageous pimp talk. "Listen, I want to put my babies all up inside you"
OR
b) push pull. "Listen, I want to be with you. wait, what are you doing to me, you're putting me under some sort of spell... keep away from me... no wait... I love you"
Cool.
She likes you, but it's not such hard attraction that she's chasing you down. You need more touching, push pull compliments...
Damn, this guy is annoying me too.
Pimp talk. Great. But you need physical contact with it.
You did pretty well overall.... what about physical contact? Pure verbal game is difficult to get hard attraction with a girl.[/QUOTE]
First of all get rid of negative frames like "failed seduction" they stuff your mind with emotions which impair your game.
There is no failure: only feedback.
let´s examine the feedback we can get from this case:
papa sandros wrote:
This FR is very very RAW I worte it out of bein a littel upset and tipsy...and its unedited.
>then she said she was looking for the bartender that told >her that he wanted to fuck her in a direct way....She siad >guys being direct turned her on.....I was like that sounds >cool but he isnt here tonight ...
This can mean two things:
1. She is telling you how to seduce her = she wants you to be a direct mother fucker in order to have her agree to have sex with you.
or ( this is more likely to be true)
2. She is a cock teaser..
The strategy is different depending on which one of the two.
>she said she wasnt happy and unemployed.
>I DIDNT KNOW HOW TO RESPOND WO COMING OFF TOO >SUBSERVIANT and TURN IT INTO A POSITIVE THING
When a girl gives you a too over sexual clue stop talking about anything connected with sex. If she is a cock teaser she will use that to betaise you.
Instead work on the principle: "Don´t explicate, demonstrate"
I would comment to this like
"Oh nice to hear that the guy wants you to have a great time"
And then I would stop any discussion connected with sex and focus on isolating her.
The asshole part of me I would put out when we are in isolation.
>so I just said" Im student now so its kidah hard on myself >too ,just waiting to finish"
>as I went into asking if she read cosmo to transition to >transition into sex talk she says NO! and she is more of GQ >girl and grew up with liking guys stuff... I DIDNT KNOW >HOW TO RECOVER !
She is telling you she is a masculine girl, maybe Daddy´s daughter.
This is the kind of girl who likes to be taken by a muscular gym teacher who teaches her how to pump iron and then fucks her.
If... she is not cock teasing you.. see there are Freak girls around who enjoy getting the guys to the edge of their sexual desire and then.. disappear.
>I said Im going to restroom be back and she said she go out >for a smoke..
>I came back and chodes were surrounding her.. CHODE >LEERING and PEERING
Giving her the attention she was craving for when she went to the bar. Notice: I said attention, not sex.
>I intro myself and they left play pool...for now ...but they >keep looking over in spectator mode.
>since I noticed her IOI another guy chode amogs
>to spike her BT I took out my fake 80's DG sunglasses and >put it on her
>and seed the timebridge with friend and afterhours,
>"I want you to come with me it will be fun", she said no I >cant I live nearby and I m just hanging out ..... ( yeah >hanging out at 3am
>what are you talking about?!)
Ok you could have said: "I am sure you have a nice kitchen. Let´s go to have a look at your kitchen" See the only way to f.close her is to have her away from the place she gets attention.. if she refuses isolation in spite of a very self-confident approach from you that means she will be there all the night fishing for attention and "maybe" go for the sex .. or go home alone.
>THE AMOG SCENE : then I fluff talk but she kept looking >around and "whsperer amog" comes to side he doesnt know >her, whisperes in her ear she looks at me and she laughs >and looks at him...
Well she is playing the field for attention. See, remember this: for women and especially of the Freak type attention is far more important than sex.
You need to remember on what she focuses in her game..
>I then interupt and introduce myslef ..he doesnt comply >and walks off but keeps looking at her while he is playing >darts ...
>I start preping and SOI, she then starts feeling tension from >getting all female attention from the venue and she keeps >looking at pool table and darts side while Im talking to her...
>I then say " HEY! look at me Im talking to you! HELLO!" kind >of in a dominant way ( NOT SURE ITF THIS IS OK OR FUCK >UP)
>she says like "yes" she looks right at me ...I go into story on >female sex or natural women patter type improv I was doing >and
>I told her to "OK, lets go gt out of here"
>she was like " Im staying here sorry Im not thet type of girl"
See: fishing for attention. She is the same girl who told you that the bartender told he wants to fuck her and that she likes direct men.
So: she is cock teasing you. Using the sex hook to get attention..
>I was like " Shut up! shut up right now! I think your are >cute and want to be with you"
>whisperer taps on her shoulder to come play darts ...
>keeps whisperering again and I say "dude whats up man! " in >a pissed way a little but subcommunication of wtf are you >doing?!
>he wonders off but keeps looking...
>she looks at me hard eye contact like sexual tension >building but says
>" last time I had a one night stand I ended up in a >relationship , Im just going to play darts and pool with the >boys"
Ok she wants to make sure that if she has sex you will not become the jealous possessive boy who stalks her..
amoggs came to check in and say "is everything alright?" I said yes and she just looked and he left but kept leering...
>I said " Do you want to come with me? I really like to fuck >you in the ass" and smiled with a smirk ala benicio del toro >in traffic
>she stared at me for congruence test and said
>"I'd really like that ...but Im not going to do that "
Ok she told you plain that she is enjoying the teasing game she is doing in the bar and the attention of the boys and having fun cock teasing guys.
Next time a girl tries to cock tease you with sex what you have to do is to shift the game to something boring and neutral like financial news and politics and then escalate on her with your kino without saying a word about sex.
She asks: "What you are doing?" when you touch her hand
You say: "I think next year the financial forecast is getting better" and put your hand on her ass..
If you do not verbalize SEX or anything else she will be forced to submit to kino of push you away which will ruin her need for communication and need for cock teasing you..
>" So, Im going to go play pool now.."
>I was like " You are soo full of shit ; ) " and I left...kindah >of upset and yet didnt pull....
Now nice to be cock teased.. next time you will be better with cock teasers.
Jesse comments:
[QUOTE=Jesse Charger;4747]Cool, she's giving you tips how to get her.
Just ignore it. don't react.
You handled this okay. Just ignore him.
Breaking rapport tonality? Loud? That's the way to go.
Have you touched her yet? You should be touching her in some way pretty quickly into the interaction.
If you're going to give compliments late in the interaction, they should be either
a) hard core outrageous pimp talk. "Listen, I want to put my babies all up inside you"
OR
b) push pull. "Listen, I want to be with you. wait, what are you doing to me, you're putting me under some sort of spell... keep away from me... no wait... I love you"
Cool.
She likes you, but it's not such hard attraction that she's chasing you down. You need more touching, push pull compliments...
Damn, this guy is annoying me too.
Pimp talk. Great. But you need physical contact with it.
You did pretty well overall.... what about physical contact? Pure verbal game is difficult to get hard attraction with a girl.[/QUOTE]
Saturday, November 27, 2010
Holy Grail of pick-up Holy how to fuck a girl within 30 minutes
Sunday, March 21, 2010
****30 MIN BATHROOM PULL****
LR: bathroom pull
TONIGHT WAS CRAZY!!!!!!
SET 3: ****30 MIN BATHROOM PULL****
I walk a couple of blocks and get to the next club. As I get in there... I just walk around... see if there are any cool people to talk to... saw a girl at the bar with a glass in her hand... she's not going anywhere... I decided to wait a little before I open to make sure I don't get any interrupts... I get EC from her... now I know she is attracted... but instead of opening her... I opener a girl who happened to be close to me that is holding a camera then it becomes a 2 set... cause some other girl walks up to her... then before I knew it the girl who I wanted to open walks up too... she was friends with the girl who had just walked up...
so here I am surrounded by 3 girls... start to small talk with them... nothing too crazy... I had calibrated my from the warm up sets...then camera girl wants to take pictures of me so I go to the back of the bar with the other girls and and get some pictures taken then she takes pictures of the other girls too...
All through this I know my target is attracted to me so right now... I am ready to go create some social proof and demonstrate some alpha qualities. She is about to go downstairs and watch her friends band play... and she thinks I am going to follow her... but I let her go by herself... and look for more sets to open... the club is still pretty empty it is still early... but before I know it the girl comes back... and thats when I start gaming her a little more... We were standing really close to each other... I didn't need any routines... I pretty much just asked some questions and got to know her... she was already attracted so she didn't need much game... then I got bumped by some guy as he was walking by and I used that as an excuse to go sit down...
We sat down pretty close to each other... we kept on talking... she told me she was an artist... showed me an art work she did on her business card then... I showed her some of my music... I also found out logistics about her... she had a roommate... lived in an area not to far from the city... she was good for a pull... I also asked her what was the craziest thing you've ever done... she said nothing too crazy I am a good girl... I said... "yeah yeah yeah... you're a good girl to the people you supposed to be a good girl too... " giving the nothing that... she could be a bad girl with me...
My goal was to get her to leave the club with me without me having to wait till the end of the night... cause I was not in the mood to stay out that late... so I started building sexual tension... this was what made the BATHROOM PULL happen...
By now she was ready to be kissed... so I looked at her lips... gave her the impression that I wanted to kiss her... and said... I can't stop starring at your lips... and leaned a tiny bit closer... she leaned in to kiss me... BUT I pulled away and said... NOT YET!!!! and kept on talking about whatever we were talking about...
Then after 2 minutes I looked at her again... and said I want to kiss you so bad!!! And she leaned in again for the kiss... I pulled away... but this time I was still with in kissing distance from her... and started touching the back of her neck and hair... she was getting turned on... so she went in for the kiss again... nope it didn't happen I turned away... but I started smelling her neck...she was getting horny now... and she went for the kiss 3 times in a ROW... I just steered away from her lips but I escalated by biting her neck and I did a little to her ear too... now... she was getting all hot and bothered... but she wasn't ready yet to go to the bathroom... WHY?
Because I hadn't escalated that far with her yet... see KINO escalation is not the only way to escalate... the community talks about it a lot... but the REAL underrated and probably even more important form of escalation is MENTAL escalation... After today I learned that: if you escalate in her mind without any objections... she will do it back to you in kino...
THAT is exactly what happened when she tried to KISS me 6 TIMES!!!! I escalated in her mind first... I gave her the imagery of us kissing. by doing the "i can't stop starring at your lips" and then "I want to kiss you so bad"
I have coached quite a few workshops with Glenn and I haven't seen guys escalating in girls minds... this is something I am going to make sure it happens for future workshops... escalating in girls' mind's can really speed up your game... and make pulls happen faster...
So...that is why she wasn't ready to fuck me in the bathroom... I did a few more things...
Right there when she tried to kiss me the last few times in a row we were at a peak of sexual tension... Now here I did something called fractionation...
According to wiki
fractionation: take person in and out of state thus intensifying it
I pretty much took her out of state... by going back into normal conversation... so I had this girl all hot and bothered and I broke her state...so she would come back to it later but only at a much more intensified level...
By now I was already going for a bathroom pull... so I knew I needed to get some compliance from her... so I decided to move her around the club... by saying "come on let's go watch the band!!!!"
and I led the way... a few steps ahead and she followed me... on the way I saw a girl I was going on a day2 with the next day and decided to talk to her a bit... while the other girl was watching... after I felt she she saw enough... I said... "come on let's check out the back room" more little hoops, more compliance...
I went in the back room I sat down on the comfortable couches... started talking with the guys from the band she went to see... she was standing for a while but when she sat down next to me... it was a pretty good sign...
so what I did here next... was the same thing I did while we were sitting down before... but by escalating further in her mind...
She was still trying to go in for the kiss... but I denied it every time and escalated elsewhere instead... I had my hand up of her thigh but I knew better not to touch her pussy... before doing some MENTAL ESCALATION... so I started escalating... I waited for her to try and kiss me again... I denied it... and at the same time and said " have you ever had sex in a bathroom before?" she said "no" ...I said "okay" then backed off a little... started talking about something else.... stroked her hair... she held my hand... I held it back... then I put her hand on my leg... and " mmmm I want you " ... she said " I like you" I used this to go aggressive... I said "what do you like about me?" she said "everything" ... I said "do you like my cock?" she said "everything" I said "but you haven't even seen it yet..." she said..."but it's part of you"... I said "yeah how do you know you like it though?" all this while biting her neck and turning her on... this was escalation!!!! Still no kissing her though... she said I do...
I kept going... "would you put your hand around it?'" she said "yes"... I said "would you spit on it?" she said "yes" would put it in your mouth?" she said "yes" ... I said "would you put it inside you?" she said "yes"... I said "do you want me to be inside you" she said "yes"... I said " I want to make you wet" ... by now... I just moving from having my hand or her thighs to just brushing past her pussy... it was lightly... but then with a little more pressure... I said " I wanna fuck you hard" She said " I want you to fuck me hard" I said " What position..." She said "Every position" I said... "Have you ever fucked with your panties pulled to the side?" She said "No" I said " I want to fuck you with your panties pulled to the side and your clothes still on"... THEN SHE WAS LIKE...
I AM GOING TO THE BATHROOM...
and YOU ARE COMING WITH RIGHT?
I was like "okay : )"
So she pretty much led the way to the bathroom... went to an open one downstairs but... I wasn't sure if those locked or not... so I said... there is a really cool one upstairs!!! And and she's like... "ohh you know???" I said "yeah come on..." and she followed me upstairs by now the place was crowded... we waited till one girl got out.. and I went inside... she followed... closed the door... locked it... and what's the first thing she wants to do??? MAKE OUT! Okay she could make out with me now... no she did... I wiped out my COCK... she sucked it... took off my wallet... go a condom... gave it to her... she wrapped in on... ***I throw my wallet on the floor!*** I pulled her panties to the side... she does some crazy yoga stretch I put my cock in... but I don't have enough leverage so I have to sit down... MEANWHILE people start banging on the door!!!!! We just hear... BAMMM BAMMM BAAAM.... we just ignore it and I put both toilet seats down... I sit and she gets on top... she is loving it and moaning... she rides me so hard that her legs somehow hit the part the toilet flushes... and the top cover falls down and we hear something else break... but then we GET distracted more LOUD ASS KNOCKS ON THE DOOR... BAAAAAMMMM BAAAAMMM BAAAAAMMM... voices that say..."OPEN UP!!! OOOPEN... but we just keep doing... I fuck her from behind now... and she is moaning SOOOO LOUD... that I think people outside just give up trying to get us out... we didn't stay long after that... "I suggested we just go to her place and fuck there" so I
zip up and she pulls her panties up and we finally open the bathroom door... to find only 2 people waiting... WTF? anyway we get out of the club... I ask how far her place is and what train we would have to take... and how long are we going to have to wait for the train... she gets where I am going with this and says should we take a cab : )... GREAT!
She paid for the CAB : )... i said I would get her lunch or something. But I wanted her to get the cab to get her invest more... also establish that I am the prize...
Anyway got to her place... WANNA TAKE OUT A CONDOM... and I CAN'T FIND MY WALLET... SHIT!!! She has a condom... so we fuck for a while then... I START TO GET REALLY WORRIED I LEFT MY WALLET IN THE BATHROOM BACK AT THE PLACE... so I try to call up the VENUE... and nothing...
By now I start getting ready to leave and I give her my number... and she is like what do I put you in my phone as... and that's when we realized we didn't exchange names yet!!! WTF! It all happened so fast!!! So we had a nice to meet you moment... Then I get her to call her friends... they don't answer... I call the girl I was talking with... she says she is out already but she will see me tomorrow...
So I end up going back to the club... to see if I left my WALLET with my credit card in there...
WHEN I GET THERE... The BOUNCER LOOKS AT ME... and acts as if he had just seen some supernatural force !!!! He's like all surprised and says,,, YOU!!!!!!!!!!!! "Hi I lost my wallet in here"
WERE YOU THE MOTHAFUCKA WHO BANGED SOME CHICK IN THE BATHROOM????
I'm like "y-eeah.."
HEY!!! THIS IS THE GUY WHO BROKE OUR BATHROOM !!! YOU JUST GAVE US MORE WORK TO DO... HOW DID YOUR WALLET END UP IN THERE!!! .... HE CALLS THE OTHER BOUNCER... POINTS TO ME AND SAYS... HERE IS THAT MUTHAFUCKER!!!!! HE'S LIKE... WOOOW MAN!!! YOU ARE THE GUY WHO FUCKED THAT GIRL IN THE BATHROOM... NAAHH MANNN YOU BROKE MY BATHROOM...!!! AND THEN YOU FLOODED THE WHOLE FLOOR NAAAHH MAN... WHATT THE FUCK!!!! SERIOUSLY WHAT THE FUCK????
I was like "dude... im sorry... "
they were saying this half serious and the other half was just in amazement and I could see their were like "respect!!!"
then he says to the other bouncer..."DON"T LET HIM GO ANYWHERE!" and he goes inside.
BY now everyone in line knew that I fucked a girl in the bathroom and EVERYONE was looking at me... every girl in line was pretty much eye fucking me... and every guy was like... you're the SHIT... but I was just hoping I would get my wallet cause I had my credit card in it... and honestly I didn't know if the bouncers were gonna call the cops of what... so they made me wait 30 minutes... i get to see the bouncer run some lame ass game on some girl... I also spoke to him and I told him... that I didn't flood the bathroom... he said that my wallet was in the toilet... I told him that I left it on the floor and it must have been the guys who were banging on the door that put my wallet in the toilet...
but then out comes the other bouncer... with another guy... they are like "this is the guy"... but then he gives me wallet... I check my credit card is in there... all good... i guess they dried my wallet too... it looked fine to me... they are like... all looking at me and shaking their heads... but they were like alright man... you can go... the one bouncer was like on my side already... he was like "he just left it on the floor". so everything was pretty cool...
but like I said it was a FUCKING CRAZY NIGHT!!!!
Posted by hyper at 11:12 PM 5 comments:
Irving said...
dude that's freaking insane. I want to train with you and Brad P so bad.
March 23, 2010 1:01 PM
hyper said...
Awesome. Lets get your game to the next level!
March 23, 2010 5:09 PM
Irving said...
I'm graduating at the end of this year, and have had a long and horrible dry spell ever since the start of 2007.
March 23, 2010 8:25 PM
hyper said...
Fuck that dude you deserve better. you need to talk to drew right now. He he will determine what is the next best step for you to take to get your game to the next level there are many ways we can help but we gotta figure out which one is the best for you.
here is his contact info (it is also available on the main website)
E-Mail: Drew@BradP.com
Phone: +1 (702) 516-8879
March 23, 2010 10:42 PM
Gooze said...
Hey Hyper, that was some sick shit!I'll be in the Chicago workshop in July. Looking forward to your fashion post. Cheers!
March 30, 2010 6:25 AM
****30 MIN BATHROOM PULL****
LR: bathroom pull
TONIGHT WAS CRAZY!!!!!!
SET 3: ****30 MIN BATHROOM PULL****
I walk a couple of blocks and get to the next club. As I get in there... I just walk around... see if there are any cool people to talk to... saw a girl at the bar with a glass in her hand... she's not going anywhere... I decided to wait a little before I open to make sure I don't get any interrupts... I get EC from her... now I know she is attracted... but instead of opening her... I opener a girl who happened to be close to me that is holding a camera then it becomes a 2 set... cause some other girl walks up to her... then before I knew it the girl who I wanted to open walks up too... she was friends with the girl who had just walked up...
so here I am surrounded by 3 girls... start to small talk with them... nothing too crazy... I had calibrated my from the warm up sets...then camera girl wants to take pictures of me so I go to the back of the bar with the other girls and and get some pictures taken then she takes pictures of the other girls too...
All through this I know my target is attracted to me so right now... I am ready to go create some social proof and demonstrate some alpha qualities. She is about to go downstairs and watch her friends band play... and she thinks I am going to follow her... but I let her go by herself... and look for more sets to open... the club is still pretty empty it is still early... but before I know it the girl comes back... and thats when I start gaming her a little more... We were standing really close to each other... I didn't need any routines... I pretty much just asked some questions and got to know her... she was already attracted so she didn't need much game... then I got bumped by some guy as he was walking by and I used that as an excuse to go sit down...
We sat down pretty close to each other... we kept on talking... she told me she was an artist... showed me an art work she did on her business card then... I showed her some of my music... I also found out logistics about her... she had a roommate... lived in an area not to far from the city... she was good for a pull... I also asked her what was the craziest thing you've ever done... she said nothing too crazy I am a good girl... I said... "yeah yeah yeah... you're a good girl to the people you supposed to be a good girl too... " giving the nothing that... she could be a bad girl with me...
My goal was to get her to leave the club with me without me having to wait till the end of the night... cause I was not in the mood to stay out that late... so I started building sexual tension... this was what made the BATHROOM PULL happen...
By now she was ready to be kissed... so I looked at her lips... gave her the impression that I wanted to kiss her... and said... I can't stop starring at your lips... and leaned a tiny bit closer... she leaned in to kiss me... BUT I pulled away and said... NOT YET!!!! and kept on talking about whatever we were talking about...
Then after 2 minutes I looked at her again... and said I want to kiss you so bad!!! And she leaned in again for the kiss... I pulled away... but this time I was still with in kissing distance from her... and started touching the back of her neck and hair... she was getting turned on... so she went in for the kiss again... nope it didn't happen I turned away... but I started smelling her neck...she was getting horny now... and she went for the kiss 3 times in a ROW... I just steered away from her lips but I escalated by biting her neck and I did a little to her ear too... now... she was getting all hot and bothered... but she wasn't ready yet to go to the bathroom... WHY?
Because I hadn't escalated that far with her yet... see KINO escalation is not the only way to escalate... the community talks about it a lot... but the REAL underrated and probably even more important form of escalation is MENTAL escalation... After today I learned that: if you escalate in her mind without any objections... she will do it back to you in kino...
THAT is exactly what happened when she tried to KISS me 6 TIMES!!!! I escalated in her mind first... I gave her the imagery of us kissing. by doing the "i can't stop starring at your lips" and then "I want to kiss you so bad"
I have coached quite a few workshops with Glenn and I haven't seen guys escalating in girls minds... this is something I am going to make sure it happens for future workshops... escalating in girls' mind's can really speed up your game... and make pulls happen faster...
So...that is why she wasn't ready to fuck me in the bathroom... I did a few more things...
Right there when she tried to kiss me the last few times in a row we were at a peak of sexual tension... Now here I did something called fractionation...
According to wiki
fractionation: take person in and out of state thus intensifying it
I pretty much took her out of state... by going back into normal conversation... so I had this girl all hot and bothered and I broke her state...so she would come back to it later but only at a much more intensified level...
By now I was already going for a bathroom pull... so I knew I needed to get some compliance from her... so I decided to move her around the club... by saying "come on let's go watch the band!!!!"
and I led the way... a few steps ahead and she followed me... on the way I saw a girl I was going on a day2 with the next day and decided to talk to her a bit... while the other girl was watching... after I felt she she saw enough... I said... "come on let's check out the back room" more little hoops, more compliance...
I went in the back room I sat down on the comfortable couches... started talking with the guys from the band she went to see... she was standing for a while but when she sat down next to me... it was a pretty good sign...
so what I did here next... was the same thing I did while we were sitting down before... but by escalating further in her mind...
She was still trying to go in for the kiss... but I denied it every time and escalated elsewhere instead... I had my hand up of her thigh but I knew better not to touch her pussy... before doing some MENTAL ESCALATION... so I started escalating... I waited for her to try and kiss me again... I denied it... and at the same time and said " have you ever had sex in a bathroom before?" she said "no" ...I said "okay" then backed off a little... started talking about something else.... stroked her hair... she held my hand... I held it back... then I put her hand on my leg... and " mmmm I want you " ... she said " I like you" I used this to go aggressive... I said "what do you like about me?" she said "everything" ... I said "do you like my cock?" she said "everything" I said "but you haven't even seen it yet..." she said..."but it's part of you"... I said "yeah how do you know you like it though?" all this while biting her neck and turning her on... this was escalation!!!! Still no kissing her though... she said I do...
I kept going... "would you put your hand around it?'" she said "yes"... I said "would you spit on it?" she said "yes" would put it in your mouth?" she said "yes" ... I said "would you put it inside you?" she said "yes"... I said "do you want me to be inside you" she said "yes"... I said " I want to make you wet" ... by now... I just moving from having my hand or her thighs to just brushing past her pussy... it was lightly... but then with a little more pressure... I said " I wanna fuck you hard" She said " I want you to fuck me hard" I said " What position..." She said "Every position" I said... "Have you ever fucked with your panties pulled to the side?" She said "No" I said " I want to fuck you with your panties pulled to the side and your clothes still on"... THEN SHE WAS LIKE...
I AM GOING TO THE BATHROOM...
and YOU ARE COMING WITH RIGHT?
I was like "okay : )"
So she pretty much led the way to the bathroom... went to an open one downstairs but... I wasn't sure if those locked or not... so I said... there is a really cool one upstairs!!! And and she's like... "ohh you know???" I said "yeah come on..." and she followed me upstairs by now the place was crowded... we waited till one girl got out.. and I went inside... she followed... closed the door... locked it... and what's the first thing she wants to do??? MAKE OUT! Okay she could make out with me now... no she did... I wiped out my COCK... she sucked it... took off my wallet... go a condom... gave it to her... she wrapped in on... ***I throw my wallet on the floor!*** I pulled her panties to the side... she does some crazy yoga stretch I put my cock in... but I don't have enough leverage so I have to sit down... MEANWHILE people start banging on the door!!!!! We just hear... BAMMM BAMMM BAAAM.... we just ignore it and I put both toilet seats down... I sit and she gets on top... she is loving it and moaning... she rides me so hard that her legs somehow hit the part the toilet flushes... and the top cover falls down and we hear something else break... but then we GET distracted more LOUD ASS KNOCKS ON THE DOOR... BAAAAAMMMM BAAAAMMM BAAAAAMMM... voices that say..."OPEN UP!!! OOOPEN... but we just keep doing... I fuck her from behind now... and she is moaning SOOOO LOUD... that I think people outside just give up trying to get us out... we didn't stay long after that... "I suggested we just go to her place and fuck there" so I
zip up and she pulls her panties up and we finally open the bathroom door... to find only 2 people waiting... WTF? anyway we get out of the club... I ask how far her place is and what train we would have to take... and how long are we going to have to wait for the train... she gets where I am going with this and says should we take a cab : )... GREAT!
She paid for the CAB : )... i said I would get her lunch or something. But I wanted her to get the cab to get her invest more... also establish that I am the prize...
Anyway got to her place... WANNA TAKE OUT A CONDOM... and I CAN'T FIND MY WALLET... SHIT!!! She has a condom... so we fuck for a while then... I START TO GET REALLY WORRIED I LEFT MY WALLET IN THE BATHROOM BACK AT THE PLACE... so I try to call up the VENUE... and nothing...
By now I start getting ready to leave and I give her my number... and she is like what do I put you in my phone as... and that's when we realized we didn't exchange names yet!!! WTF! It all happened so fast!!! So we had a nice to meet you moment... Then I get her to call her friends... they don't answer... I call the girl I was talking with... she says she is out already but she will see me tomorrow...
So I end up going back to the club... to see if I left my WALLET with my credit card in there...
WHEN I GET THERE... The BOUNCER LOOKS AT ME... and acts as if he had just seen some supernatural force !!!! He's like all surprised and says,,, YOU!!!!!!!!!!!! "Hi I lost my wallet in here"
WERE YOU THE MOTHAFUCKA WHO BANGED SOME CHICK IN THE BATHROOM????
I'm like "y-eeah.."
HEY!!! THIS IS THE GUY WHO BROKE OUR BATHROOM !!! YOU JUST GAVE US MORE WORK TO DO... HOW DID YOUR WALLET END UP IN THERE!!! .... HE CALLS THE OTHER BOUNCER... POINTS TO ME AND SAYS... HERE IS THAT MUTHAFUCKER!!!!! HE'S LIKE... WOOOW MAN!!! YOU ARE THE GUY WHO FUCKED THAT GIRL IN THE BATHROOM... NAAHH MANNN YOU BROKE MY BATHROOM...!!! AND THEN YOU FLOODED THE WHOLE FLOOR NAAAHH MAN... WHATT THE FUCK!!!! SERIOUSLY WHAT THE FUCK????
I was like "dude... im sorry... "
they were saying this half serious and the other half was just in amazement and I could see their were like "respect!!!"
then he says to the other bouncer..."DON"T LET HIM GO ANYWHERE!" and he goes inside.
BY now everyone in line knew that I fucked a girl in the bathroom and EVERYONE was looking at me... every girl in line was pretty much eye fucking me... and every guy was like... you're the SHIT... but I was just hoping I would get my wallet cause I had my credit card in it... and honestly I didn't know if the bouncers were gonna call the cops of what... so they made me wait 30 minutes... i get to see the bouncer run some lame ass game on some girl... I also spoke to him and I told him... that I didn't flood the bathroom... he said that my wallet was in the toilet... I told him that I left it on the floor and it must have been the guys who were banging on the door that put my wallet in the toilet...
but then out comes the other bouncer... with another guy... they are like "this is the guy"... but then he gives me wallet... I check my credit card is in there... all good... i guess they dried my wallet too... it looked fine to me... they are like... all looking at me and shaking their heads... but they were like alright man... you can go... the one bouncer was like on my side already... he was like "he just left it on the floor". so everything was pretty cool...
but like I said it was a FUCKING CRAZY NIGHT!!!!
Posted by hyper at 11:12 PM 5 comments:
Irving said...
dude that's freaking insane. I want to train with you and Brad P so bad.
March 23, 2010 1:01 PM
hyper said...
Awesome. Lets get your game to the next level!
March 23, 2010 5:09 PM
Irving said...
I'm graduating at the end of this year, and have had a long and horrible dry spell ever since the start of 2007.
March 23, 2010 8:25 PM
hyper said...
Fuck that dude you deserve better. you need to talk to drew right now. He he will determine what is the next best step for you to take to get your game to the next level there are many ways we can help but we gotta figure out which one is the best for you.
here is his contact info (it is also available on the main website)
E-Mail: Drew@BradP.com
Phone: +1 (702) 516-8879
March 23, 2010 10:42 PM
Gooze said...
Hey Hyper, that was some sick shit!I'll be in the Chicago workshop in July. Looking forward to your fashion post. Cheers!
March 30, 2010 6:25 AM
Thursday, November 25, 2010
example of LR: Insta-Fuck
OMEGA posted this LR which is great to have a closer mentality,how to keep at it and calibrating to avoid being needy for the sex.
ENJOY!!!
LR: INSTAFUCK
I'm VERY glad to be able to post this LR, because it teaches a valuable lesson
to many of you, and will destroy limiting beliefs I KNOW some of you have.
There is both little and much in this Lay Report.
Total time from meet to fuck»: About 3 minutes
Total amount of conversation: Less than one minute
The setting:
Naughty is in the bathroom with the girls I tried to three-some the other day
and their drunk friend at a party. I can't get in, so I'm standing around in the
bathroom line, just making some casual comments to some of the girls
standing there. Some are responding OK. A girl comes out from the coat
room and says, "Oh my God, these people are like having sex» in the closet!"
The "Seduction":
A bit later, another girl, an HB-8, "HB Insta-Fuck," walks out of the coat room
with her bra in her hand. She opens me. I respond and am mildly funny. When
she mentions something about not having her bra on, I SOI her, "But that
could be a good thing." She smiles, says, "Yeah, that could be a good thing,"
and puts her bra down her pants. I say, "Well, I guess that's a good place for
underwear," and kino her there. She says something nice. I say, "Awww,
you're so sweet. Here, you can kiss me," and I give her my cheek to kiss. She
kisses my cheek, so I say, "Aww, that was nice. Here, I'll kiss you back then,"
and I kiss her on the lips. Tongueing ensues. Followed by full-on make-out.
My eyes are closed, but I hear the girls around me going, "Oh my God!" I am
grabbing her ass. She starts playing with my balls over my pants, so I know I
need to escalate. I start rubbing her pussy through her pants. Right there in
front of God and everybody.
Here is where the only real knowledge of game or strategy came in. I figure
that if I don't escalate, it might stall out or she might break off eventually. So,
as soon as I can get my tongue free, I SOI her again. I whisper, "I have a
condom." She says, "Really?" I say, "Yeah... wanna use it?"
We go into the coat room to the closet, but there are people in there making
out, so I take her hand to go look for some place to fuck» her. She's like, "Hold
on, I have to find so-and-so." I try to get her to forget about it and come with
me to find a place to fuck», but then I was like, whatever, I let her go (partly so
I didn't look needy, although I don't know if that was really necessary, but
whatever) and I go looking for a place to fuck» her. I find a door that is closed,
and three dudes standing around, and I say, "Hey, what's behind that door?"
One of them says, "I don't know, dude, let's find out," and opens it, and it's
some other bedroom. I'm like, "Oh, OK. Just another bedroom. Cool." Go back
and find HB Insta-Fuck. She's still looking for someone. I'm like, "Hey come
here for a second. Let me show you something."
HB Insta-Fuck: What?
Doggy Style: It's a surprise.
Luckily, the three stooges are gone. I take her inside and am closing the door
and...
HB Insta-Fuck: What? What's the surprise?
Doggy Style: This...
We kiss a bit in the total darkness, she immediately gets down on the bed and
we start making out. I whisper another SOI to her, "I'm gonna make you
cum." She starts taking her pants off.
HB Insta-Fuck: Is anybody gonna come in here?
Doggy Style: Noo... no... it's a private room, so nobody will come in.
We take our pants down around our ankles and no sooner is that done than
some dumb bitch opens the door with a pissy look on her face, looks at us,
and has this righteous/indignant look on her face, and then just walks away
without even closing it.
This was clearly intentional, given the way she did it, but I don't know what it
was about.
Who cares? I'm about to fuck» this girl.
I close the door, put on a condom, and fuck» her. I ask her if she's ever fucked
a total stranger before. I'm like, "Isn't that great? Just to fuck»? And not worry
about all the bullshit, but just FUCK»!"
She starts rambling about how big my cock is, and how great I am, and blah
blah blah. I'm average or below average, guys. It's all in her head.
Afterwards, she asks my name. We exchange names, and I talk to her for a
couple of minutes. I'm like, "So were you fucking some other dude right
before you fucked me?" She says no, that she made out with this dude, but no
actual penetration. "I just wasn't feeling it with him," she says. She was also
there with some AFC guy friend. She referred to him as a friend, but he and
his friend seemed kind of pissed off later when I saw her again and tongued
her in front of him. She gave me her number, so I did a LOT of future-pacing
her being really excited when I call her. It'll be interesting to see if it takes.
I want everybody reading this to realize something.
THIS SHIT HAPPENS.
I remember a time way back when, and I was at Rush and Division with two
guys from this board. (You know who you are, lol!) There was a really cute girl
there, drunk as shit on her 21st birthday, there with her sister (the official
cock-block, but also pretty drunk). ANY ONE OF US could have just taken that
girl into the bathroom and fucked her if the obstacle had just been occupied.
But the guys just did not BELIEVE that it was possible. So I want everybody to
repeat after me...
IT IS POSSIBLE TO FUCK» A GIRL WITHIN ONE MINUTE OF MEETING HER.
What I did tonight was not about game.
What I did tonight was about my BELIEFS.
I did not open a mixed set.
I did not display high value.
I did not AMOG.
I did not neutralize obstacles.
I did not build attraction.
I did not build rapport.
I did not do c&f or push-pull.
I did not worry about ASD, LMR, LSD, FBI, or any other acronym (except
maybe for SOI, more on that later).
All I did was CALIBRATE and ESCALATE. In layman's terms, I saw that she was
horny, and I didn't beat around the fucking bush like that LAME-ASS, AFC
CHUMP who got her all horny for ME to FUCK».
Let me repeat that. ANY ASSHOLE could have had that pussy last night. And
this girl was cute. Cute enough I hope I see her again (wish I'd gotten a
picture). The only difference was that I was the only asshole who BELIEVED I
COULD, and HAD THE BALLS (and my ever-present two condoms - one for
back-up) to just take this girl by the hand, lead her into a room, and fuck» her
without even knowing her name or anything else in the world about her.
Why do I have the belief that I can do something like that?
Because I'm a PUA.
Period.
Last but not least, this is the beginning of me learning the power of SOI-ing. I
am hereby committing to pushing my boundaries further with verbally SOI-
ing. I sat in on Naughty gaming the cuter of the two girls I almost three-
somed. I never SOIed these girls. Naughty did. The response he got was
amazing (to me, anyway). I knew this was a sticking point in my game, and
watching him in action, and seeing the response he got inspired me. I SOI-ed
the almost-three-some-HB6 (Naughty says HB7) just because I saw how
receptive she was, and that was a big confidence-booster. I was thinking
about that when HB Insta-Fuck opened me. That was what led me to tell her
that her bra being off "could be a good thing," etc. I really think that verbally
SOI-ing is a GREAT way to plant a seed in a girl's mind as to what could
happen if she plays nice.
So boys... Learn to SOI. Learn to calibrate. And escalate. And most
importantly...
BELIEVE THAT THIS SHIT CAN HAPPEN.
YOU ARE PUAs NOW... THERE ARE NO MORE LIMITS.
Love,
--Doggy Style
(AKA: Omega
ENJOY!!!
LR: INSTAFUCK
I'm VERY glad to be able to post this LR, because it teaches a valuable lesson
to many of you, and will destroy limiting beliefs I KNOW some of you have.
There is both little and much in this Lay Report.
Total time from meet to fuck»: About 3 minutes
Total amount of conversation: Less than one minute
The setting:
Naughty is in the bathroom with the girls I tried to three-some the other day
and their drunk friend at a party. I can't get in, so I'm standing around in the
bathroom line, just making some casual comments to some of the girls
standing there. Some are responding OK. A girl comes out from the coat
room and says, "Oh my God, these people are like having sex» in the closet!"
The "Seduction":
A bit later, another girl, an HB-8, "HB Insta-Fuck," walks out of the coat room
with her bra in her hand. She opens me. I respond and am mildly funny. When
she mentions something about not having her bra on, I SOI her, "But that
could be a good thing." She smiles, says, "Yeah, that could be a good thing,"
and puts her bra down her pants. I say, "Well, I guess that's a good place for
underwear," and kino her there. She says something nice. I say, "Awww,
you're so sweet. Here, you can kiss me," and I give her my cheek to kiss. She
kisses my cheek, so I say, "Aww, that was nice. Here, I'll kiss you back then,"
and I kiss her on the lips. Tongueing ensues. Followed by full-on make-out.
My eyes are closed, but I hear the girls around me going, "Oh my God!" I am
grabbing her ass. She starts playing with my balls over my pants, so I know I
need to escalate. I start rubbing her pussy through her pants. Right there in
front of God and everybody.
Here is where the only real knowledge of game or strategy came in. I figure
that if I don't escalate, it might stall out or she might break off eventually. So,
as soon as I can get my tongue free, I SOI her again. I whisper, "I have a
condom." She says, "Really?" I say, "Yeah... wanna use it?"
We go into the coat room to the closet, but there are people in there making
out, so I take her hand to go look for some place to fuck» her. She's like, "Hold
on, I have to find so-and-so." I try to get her to forget about it and come with
me to find a place to fuck», but then I was like, whatever, I let her go (partly so
I didn't look needy, although I don't know if that was really necessary, but
whatever) and I go looking for a place to fuck» her. I find a door that is closed,
and three dudes standing around, and I say, "Hey, what's behind that door?"
One of them says, "I don't know, dude, let's find out," and opens it, and it's
some other bedroom. I'm like, "Oh, OK. Just another bedroom. Cool." Go back
and find HB Insta-Fuck. She's still looking for someone. I'm like, "Hey come
here for a second. Let me show you something."
HB Insta-Fuck: What?
Doggy Style: It's a surprise.
Luckily, the three stooges are gone. I take her inside and am closing the door
and...
HB Insta-Fuck: What? What's the surprise?
Doggy Style: This...
We kiss a bit in the total darkness, she immediately gets down on the bed and
we start making out. I whisper another SOI to her, "I'm gonna make you
cum." She starts taking her pants off.
HB Insta-Fuck: Is anybody gonna come in here?
Doggy Style: Noo... no... it's a private room, so nobody will come in.
We take our pants down around our ankles and no sooner is that done than
some dumb bitch opens the door with a pissy look on her face, looks at us,
and has this righteous/indignant look on her face, and then just walks away
without even closing it.
This was clearly intentional, given the way she did it, but I don't know what it
was about.
Who cares? I'm about to fuck» this girl.
I close the door, put on a condom, and fuck» her. I ask her if she's ever fucked
a total stranger before. I'm like, "Isn't that great? Just to fuck»? And not worry
about all the bullshit, but just FUCK»!"
She starts rambling about how big my cock is, and how great I am, and blah
blah blah. I'm average or below average, guys. It's all in her head.
Afterwards, she asks my name. We exchange names, and I talk to her for a
couple of minutes. I'm like, "So were you fucking some other dude right
before you fucked me?" She says no, that she made out with this dude, but no
actual penetration. "I just wasn't feeling it with him," she says. She was also
there with some AFC guy friend. She referred to him as a friend, but he and
his friend seemed kind of pissed off later when I saw her again and tongued
her in front of him. She gave me her number, so I did a LOT of future-pacing
her being really excited when I call her. It'll be interesting to see if it takes.
I want everybody reading this to realize something.
THIS SHIT HAPPENS.
I remember a time way back when, and I was at Rush and Division with two
guys from this board. (You know who you are, lol!) There was a really cute girl
there, drunk as shit on her 21st birthday, there with her sister (the official
cock-block, but also pretty drunk). ANY ONE OF US could have just taken that
girl into the bathroom and fucked her if the obstacle had just been occupied.
But the guys just did not BELIEVE that it was possible. So I want everybody to
repeat after me...
IT IS POSSIBLE TO FUCK» A GIRL WITHIN ONE MINUTE OF MEETING HER.
What I did tonight was not about game.
What I did tonight was about my BELIEFS.
I did not open a mixed set.
I did not display high value.
I did not AMOG.
I did not neutralize obstacles.
I did not build attraction.
I did not build rapport.
I did not do c&f or push-pull.
I did not worry about ASD, LMR, LSD, FBI, or any other acronym (except
maybe for SOI, more on that later).
All I did was CALIBRATE and ESCALATE. In layman's terms, I saw that she was
horny, and I didn't beat around the fucking bush like that LAME-ASS, AFC
CHUMP who got her all horny for ME to FUCK».
Let me repeat that. ANY ASSHOLE could have had that pussy last night. And
this girl was cute. Cute enough I hope I see her again (wish I'd gotten a
picture). The only difference was that I was the only asshole who BELIEVED I
COULD, and HAD THE BALLS (and my ever-present two condoms - one for
back-up) to just take this girl by the hand, lead her into a room, and fuck» her
without even knowing her name or anything else in the world about her.
Why do I have the belief that I can do something like that?
Because I'm a PUA.
Period.
Last but not least, this is the beginning of me learning the power of SOI-ing. I
am hereby committing to pushing my boundaries further with verbally SOI-
ing. I sat in on Naughty gaming the cuter of the two girls I almost three-
somed. I never SOIed these girls. Naughty did. The response he got was
amazing (to me, anyway). I knew this was a sticking point in my game, and
watching him in action, and seeing the response he got inspired me. I SOI-ed
the almost-three-some-HB6 (Naughty says HB7) just because I saw how
receptive she was, and that was a big confidence-booster. I was thinking
about that when HB Insta-Fuck opened me. That was what led me to tell her
that her bra being off "could be a good thing," etc. I really think that verbally
SOI-ing is a GREAT way to plant a seed in a girl's mind as to what could
happen if she plays nice.
So boys... Learn to SOI. Learn to calibrate. And escalate. And most
importantly...
BELIEVE THAT THIS SHIT CAN HAPPEN.
YOU ARE PUAs NOW... THERE ARE NO MORE LIMITS.
Love,
--Doggy Style
(AKA: Omega
Wednesday, November 24, 2010
Sinns Fast seduction with eye contact LR in Vegas,Talks about Miami
Saturday, January 17, 2009
Can You Really Seduce A Stranger in 6 Minutes?
Hey guys,
Wanted to drop you a quick line today to talk about what's possible.
When I first got started in The Secret Underground Internet Seduction Community, I thought it was really difficult just to start a conversation with a stranger. Well 6 years later things are a little different, and I want to share this story from Vegas with everyone, not to brag, but to show you that ANYTHING is possible. Even consistent 6 minute seductions.
As many of you may know, I made the horrible decision to stay in Vegas for 4 days in between my first two 12 Months To Mastery bootcamps.(To learn why this was a bad idea check out my blog post on The Vegas Tipping point at http://sinnsofattraction.blogspot.com/2009/01/vegas-tipping-point.html ) Well Tuesday night Priest and I decided to hit the best party in town. Pure at Caesar's Palace. At Pure I did a number of approaches and nothing was going that well. Priest and I had a 2 set going but my girl was being way too ADD and she wasn't hot enough to get away with it :) So at around 2:30, I decide if we're going to keep gaming, we should be gaming at our hotel.
That's lesson number 1 for those of you looking to get laid fast! Know your logistics and keep them as favorable as possible. It's much harder to pull a girl from a club to a different hotel. If you can just go up an elevator, the pull becomes much easier.
So we head back to The Hard Rock. The Circle Bar was actually fairly lively for a Tuesday at 3 AM. There were a few sets and I start to look for girls who look bored, sexual, or like they want to trade up. Girls often settle for guys earlier in the night and then decide they don't like them later on. I want to find those girls. What I do to find these girls is make a rotation of the bar. However, you don't want it to look like you're "on the prowl" so you have to make a confused face like you're looking for a friend of yours. This is key to retaining social value.
The next part of super fast lays, is eye contact. You want to make searing, burning eye contact with as many girls as possible. Just make sure you still keep a smile on your face. You're looking for one of two responses. You want to approach girls who quickly break eye contact by looking down. This is a sign of sexual submission. Or you want to find girls who look away and then look back. There was a group of 3 hotties and as I was walking by, the blonde looked at me and then looked back as I walked by. I take an extra step, check my phone just cause I'm procrastinating and walk over.
I want to mention the next key point for super fast lays. Fashion and stereotyping. I was wearing a black pinstriped blazer with zippers all over it. Under that I had on a T-shirt I found in Australia with Sienna Miller flipping the bird topless, a pair of True Religion distressed jeans and my old school New Rocks. There's nothing spectacular about the outfit but it stands out without being weird. As usual I was the best dressed guy in the venue and the girls notice. If you don't get stared at or opened because of your fashion, you're doing something wrong. There are tons of great resources out there from style.com, to kinowear.com. There's no excuse for bad style, or not having an overall theme/stereotype to your look. Gone are the days when we can pretend fashion and presentation doesn't matter to getting laid. It does matter, and it's fully within your control.
After the eye contact I walked back over and said "hi" the girl immediately started telling me that she worked as a cocktail waitress at Treasure Island, she never goes out, and she's only here cause her brother's girlfriend(The Asian girl to her left) dragged her out. This is what's known as her qualifying herself to me off the opener. I now know she's attracted, it's 3 AM and she's with her brother's girlfriend. All signs are go, for the 10 minute lay. Then she asks me if I'm gay.
I get the gay thing once or twice a week, it's not a horrible problem as it allows me to escalate super fast. I say " I'm not gay and I'll prove it. Close your eyes." and then I kiss her. She practically sucks my face off. So I decide it's super on, and I'm gonna go for the 5 minute pull. I say " What are you guys up to right now?" She responds that they're waiting for her brother. I say "cool, shit I forgot my cigarettes upstairs. I'm gonna go get them." She starts to freak out her that I'm leaving, which is exactly what I wanted. this is a very subtle use of a take-away. Here I use it to gain emotional momentum to get her to come upstairs with me. She says " no, don't go! We'll get one down here." I say " Naw I only smoke Marlboro's, come upstairs with me to grab em. We'll be back before your brother gets here." She asks her friends if they're cool with that and away we go. Here, I just create some excuse for plausible deniability. As you can see it wasn't even that good of an excuse. But it worked.
Meet to elevator 3 minutes.
In the Elevator I ramp arousal. This is another key to quickies. I slam the girl against the wall, makeout with her and feel her up. Then as soon as we get to floor 4, I walk out of the elevator fast. This is a HUGE sexual push/pull. She gets aroused and starts to feel good and then it's gone. We get into the room and I throw her on the bed and pin her arms above her head. I go for the boobs then she says " When are you gonna fuck me? Before or after we smoke a cigarette? I laugh and we have sex. I look at the clock as I'm inside her and it's literally 6 minutes from when I checked my phone before going into the set.
I never would have imagined this was possible 6 years ago. But these situations happen to me all the time now. And they can happen to you too. The lesson to take out of this is not just controlling logistics in your favor, using eye contact to screen approaches, or ramping arousal as you're pulling. The real idea is that results like this are possible. A lot of times we read things like the "7 hour rule" or a girl tells us she doesn't sleep with guys right away and we get discouraged. The truth is seductions like this happen all over the world EVERY night of the week. It's just up to you to get out there and make it happen.
Til next time,
S
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Thursday, July 03, 2008
FUR: Handjob Interuptus...
I often complain. Longtime readers of my blog can no doubt remember tons of experiences where I complained about airlines, lack of sleep, etc... But the biggest thing I complain about to my friends is Las Vegas. See I have a love/hate relationship with Vegas. I love it because it allows me to indulge in all of my worst vices. But I hate it because I always end up feeling like a cigarette butt about two days in. So naturally when Moxie was leaving and he suggested going to Vegas for his blow out going away celebration I was in.
Fast forward through 5 days of debauchery and not coming home til the sun was out and we arrive at last Saturday night. We decided that since we were staying at the MGM we should take advantage of logistics and go to Studio 54. This was a mistake. I have NEVER seen so many ugly people in the same place ever. Seriously it was like a retarded leper colony reunion. It was the entire collection of " My father should have pulled out" trading cards. I'm still getting shivers thinking about it. And we got to pay a $20 cover because it was 12:01 and our passes were only good til 12...
So we do what all men in Vegas do when confronted with a time crunch and lack of options. We went to the Hard Rock Circle bar. I'm pretty pissed off at this point so I'm looking to open as quickly as possible. I open a 2 set with a short ugly girl and a hot blonde in a corset. I point out that she's short. They say they're going to meet they're friends and I should come. I meet another 5 girls and Moxie rolls over. Now we're just vibing until I isolate the corset girl and run strawberry fields on her. Then I pull her hair and she asks me what my sign is.
Me: Guess.
Her: Scorpio
Me: No way, I can't believe you guessed scorpio.
Her: Are you a scorpio?
Me: No Libra...
Her: I'm a scorpio we match sexually!
I tell her I'm really bad in bed and then pull her into me and pull her hair. This is something I do a lot. Verbally disqualifying myself sexually while sexually escalating to show her that I will fuck her shit up. It's a sexual version of push/pull except you disqualify yourself instead of her.
Moxie is pretty in with another tall hot blonde in the set and the ugs are getting restless. This was annoying because I had spent damn near 10 minutes talking to the ugs and making sure they were cool. I thought I had built a good rapport. My girl tries to number close me for sex the next morning. I smell a flake so I number close and then we walk with them to the outer ring of the casino. They say they're going to Mandalay Bay. We're down. I make out with my girl. But the ugs are plotting something. I can see it. I try to pull our girls back to the hotel and hear what would become the mantra of the night " I want to but I can't leave my friends." I go back in on the ugs and make them laugh for a few minutes then tell them ask for permission to take their friends away. The short ug I opened says in front of my girl " She can do whatever she wants" but she says it in the way that it actually means " I will hat you forever and tell everyone you're a huge slut if you go with these guys." So no go and eventually I realize we can't go with them cause the ugs won't have it and they won't leave with us either. A logistical blow out. Next set.
The next set I open is a blonde walking by. I open her by poking her in the stomach and then clawing her in. She's super attracted super fast and I'm thinking logistics. I want to make a point here. Whenever you open a single you can get her attracted enough that she will handle the obstacles for you. But you have to ask who they are. I ask her who she's here with. She lives in Vegas but is staying at the Hard Rock with some guy friends, who are hitting on some girls. Cool seems easy right? Wrong! She won't let me go to her room, she won't leave to come to mine, the bathroom has an attendent. Finally I remember a girl I banged out by the pool here one night. We walk past the guy cleaning the floor out the door that should be locked and we lay down on some lounge chairs. She straddles me, I pull her boobs out and whip out the cack. She's jerking me off when security walks by.
Security: Hey guys you can't be out here. Sorry to break it up seems like you were almost there. Most people hide in those cabanas.
I look at the girl she says " we're not going to the cabanas."
Fine as we're walking back to her friends I pull her in the leveator shove her against the wall and make out more. I hit the top floor 11. We get there and then she says we have to go back to her friends. I ask her where her room is. She says on the 4th floor. I hit the 4th floor button. She won't get out of the elevator and eventually I take her back to her friends. Where I get a lecture about how her guy friend wants me to fuck her so he can live vicariously through me. This is not good for ASD. We hang out a bit more but eventually she leaves with the dude, and I can't snag the invite up.
Next Set:
Now it's like 4 AM, I've gotten half a handjob and had two girls who want to fuck me but the gods of logisitics had me cursed. But I would overcome. I open a three set with a HUGE latin chick, a hot latin chick and a hot big tittied short blonde. Any guess as to who the target was?
It was not on at all at first. In fact I did multiple jealousy plots by grabbing girls as they walked by and opening them in front of the blonde. I also met some Hungarian porn stars who told me they were not there to fuck but they did hug me in front of the blonde so that's some social proof...
I keep disqualifying the girl, she's too nice, she's an only child, she's too blonde, she's kinda sexy and I would ruin her for all other men. Finally it starts to hook and we make-out. But not before we have the world's longest almost kiss. Seriously it was like 5 minutes of being lip to lip while we both said we weren't going to kiss. She finally lost. It's 5:30 AM So I go for the pull I get her out to the cab stand with the cab door open before she says " I can't leave my friends". I felt like Jules Winfield in that classic Pulp Fiction scene. I wanted to say
" I don't wanna hear about no goddamn friends. All I wanna hear from yo ass is go back in there chill them obstacles out and wait for me to leave with you which should be happening direct."
Ah butchering Tarantino...
Alas I go do some group stuff. The non fattie hates me. Moxie comes in and somehow fixes this. I really have no idea how but I suspect ninja magic.
The HUGE obstacle is talking to the scariest cholo of all time. I take this as an opportunity to try to pull my girl out to the cab again. I swear this guy must have been wondering why I kept bringing girls out to go back in. I pulled 3 different girls to the cab stand...
The guy the whale is talking to looked like he should be a hispanic rapper called MR Gangsta. He's actually cool as hell. And he wants to take the whale to breakfast. I say cool. We'll go eat room service at the MGM in RM # Whatever... I tell her the room number for safety. Fattie says yes cause let's face it she wants food. But the other latina obstacle and my girl are now worried about the whale. Internally I laugh and say there's nothing to worry about because she could always sit on him. Plus she's got enough blubber that if he shoots her it won't hit anything important. I don't say this. Sinn 5 years ago would so this is progress I suppose... The girls ditch us and the cholo and decide to go back to their hotel to eat. My girl tells me she's just not that kinda girl.
Argh , so I figured I'd post this because everyone can enjoy it. I enjoyed writing it cause it's a cathartic process and I'm finally over it now( I think). People who want to learn game can find a few decent nuggets in here, and the haters can laugh at how I didn't get laid despite three makeouts. Everyone wins!
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Monday, April 28, 2008
LR X 2 Anal sex, death threats and underage girls
It's been an amazing time out here in Vegas with El Topo and our super student. This guy was super serious about getting better and has spent 9 days total with myself, and ET. We've even been engineering a new way of lifestyle development with these one on ones as a way of integrating the habit of pick-up into your own life. It's super exciting stuff and we will be posting more about it later.
Onto the LRs. Since I've been in Vegas I've pulled every night. The first night I even got a death threat from the guy I pulled this set away from. It starts out with ET and I at a famous circular bar in Vegas where we ran into Brad P running a workshop. Brad has a new product called the adventures of Brad P which is awesome and only $ 19 bucks. I'll be posting a more in depth review of it soon. But we also run into former student Eight Rope and some creepy Indian dude( from now on CRID). 8 rope is doing well with his girl but the other one is clearly creeped. Somehow I start talking to her and she's all over my shit. The reason being that I actually escalate. 8 rope later said he was amazed watching me and ET work the set because we were getting them touching us and accepting escalation super fast after they had been talking to them for an hour. This is a lesson on why we have to escalate. Blow me or blow me out!
Anyway the CRID comes back into the set and I let it go as I'm not trying to steal the set. Now the girl moves away from where I had her isolated and rejoins the group to get away from him. She of course comes right next to me as I've already run strawberry Fields, rings on fingers and qualified her. SO it's on with a sexual vibe. there's a key distinction between it being on and it being on with a sexual vibe. if you don't try to communicate sexually with women it will be on but you will get LMR. Trust me I know from personal experience before I met CJ. So here comes the CRID again and now the girls are trying to bounce with us. The girls move away as the CRID grabs the hand of the girl I'm talking to. A minute before this I had explained to him that he creeped the girls out and that's why they were leaving I even gave him examples of how he was being overly aggressive. Some people read reports like this one and think all they have to do is grope and pull. There is a dance to escalation and the real power is in the take aways... I finally decide that since he's creeped them and they're leaving I'm gonna grab them. ET and I walk up say " We have to go to the bathroom and pull them away. Now he starts blowing up Eight rope's cell threatening to and I quote " Kill all of you!" He even continues to call the next day and say that he's with his boys and we can settle this now. Psycho Alert. The dude's a nutcase. Proving yet again why it's usually a bad idea to meet up with people off message boards. If you're reading this dude, you need psychological help and I hope you get it.
We bounce to a lounge in the same hotel and it's really on. We're making out she's trying to get me to dance and her and her friend begin talking about how my girl needs to get laid and how logistics are going to go down. Eight Rope politely excuses himself and we bounce the girls back to our hotel to smoke...
Now it gets tricky as I'm escalating on my girl on the bed and ET's chick wants to watch. but we separate and all goes well especially as this particular girl loved it up the butt. Various inappropriate things happen after this point.
The second night (Sat) I pulled a set and was having her flash people in the cab but lost it when her friend who's 30th Bday it was freaked out and they all had to rush to get her. I say save the drama for your mama and peace out!
Last night I got laid again with a 19 year old I met in the lobby of the Excalibur of all places. This is a big reminder to everyone(myself included) to kick game to girls all the time. You never know where those lays are going to come from and it's important to always have that SNL mindset even if you're chilling in a lobby of a gauche themed hotel. We game them and exchange numbers and through text I progessively escalate
Some ex:
Her: What are you doing tonight?
Me: Besides pinning you up against a wall and making out with you? Undecided...
Her: Yummy... How do you know me so well already?
Me: I'm awesome.
Her: That explains it.
Me: Aww you're making me blush and other things...
It continues like this but I'm a gentleman with class and won't sully my reports on the internet telling people about various chicks I bang with such filth :)
Anyway we meet up at the bar and bounce back to the hotel and the girls won't come up to the room. Fucking underage girls... I made a rule awhile ago to not fuck with girls under 25 as they know what's going down and how SNLs work. It's ok we build comfort at the bar. I escalate.ET brillantly bounces his girl to the lobby " To handle some shit and then up to the room"
I get a text from him that says in the room fucking. I tell the girl they're probably in the room and we should go break up their party. She agrees and we go up there. Now I know I'm not breaking up shit so I have to get her super aroused enough to fuck in the bathroom before we get to the room. So about 20 feet before our room. Which is down the longest hallway known to mankind. I slam her against the wall make out with her and start dirty talking. Now luckily she's wearing a skirt so I start to play with her and then I show her the text from 5 minutes ago and pretend we just got it. I go shit they are fucking we can't go in there... Unless you want to go in the bathroom where we have some privacy. She says she's down and I get a cramp from fucking this chick standing up in front of the mirror American Psycho style.
I guess the major lessons here are to be aware of logistics, use arousal to overcome bad logistics, start sexualizing the interaction as soon as you possibly can and have the balls to take the opportunity when it presents itself. I wasn't going to post LRs anymore but I think I'll go back to it as it gives me easy stuff to write about. I usually get between 5 and 10 a month and I will let you guys decide.
Hit me up with comments
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Thursday, May 01, 2008
LR: Out Alone-Obstacles or Opportunities?
This girl actually just left my apt, about 20 mins ago.
Flashback to last night. Nobody wants to go out. CJ has a date, Printer flakes for no explained reason and doesn't return calls or texts. Fidelio and ET are working and then going home, Shaft is working. S0 here I am in my underwear watching the Hawks and Celts play and wondering if I should go out tonight. Add to it that in my experience Wednesday is the worst day to go out in Dallas and I don't have a car because... well because my car sucks balls. Most guys would see that as enough of a reason to stay home, smoke a bowl and play on the internet. Not me. This to me is a big difference between the guys who get massive results and the guys who just kinda struggle. CJ for awhile had no car, his daughters two weekends a month and lived at his Mom's house. yet he still got good at SNLs because he saw opportunities instead of obstacles. Most guys are too quick to make excuses as to why they can't go out or why they can't approach or why they can't try to pull etc.. There's two sides to every coin and that means that in every situation that seems to suck there's some way to improve and try to get laid. You just have to be looking for it.
Onto the LR. I decide to roll out to the bars by my house. I'm not expecting it to be a great night but I stop by the bar across the street. It's dead. The guy ET and I know who works there isn't even there so I bail and go to the sports bar across from there. The Stars are getting beaten by the Sharks yet there are no attractive hockey groupies, so I finally decide to go to my local dive. This is a place I never really go as it isn't a great placer for pick-up usually but tonight it's packed. I'm standing line for the bathroom when I hear everyone in the bar clapping and then turn to my right and see a seven foot tall drunk Dirk Nowitzki. He's so drunk he goes into the women's bathroom to piss. I text Fidelio about this and he responds " That's y they lost he's got a vagina". I go out and start opening sets.
The first set is a two set of blondes who I open with Brad P's Lesbian DTR opener. It doesn't really hook and I walk away without plowing. The next set I open I actually just want a cigarette and I ask for one but the girls don't have any. I've noticed that lately I am having way more trouble getting people to give me cigarettes. It started when I was in San Jose a couple of weeks ago, and has continued through Vegas and Dallas... Weird. Anyway I try to stack forward, but to no avail. And now I have two blowouts. I open another two set and get nowhere again when two girls who are in matching business wear walk in. They're very cute and more importantly they're the only set I haven't opened yet in the tiny shitty bar.
So I open them. There is a seat next to them at the bar so I sit down and open situationally by saying that I wish I had worn my white button down shirt too so I wasn't wrecking the sequence. They laugh and then we start talking about the drunk girl who is basically falling down and popping out of her shirt at the same time. I say we should start taking bets on what's going to happen. Her falling down is even money and her boobs popping out is 2 to 1. The target girl suggests that I go for her. I tease her and say we're not going to get along. Then I run rings on fingers and slap her hand. The obstacles boyfriend shows up and is all " Hey what's up dude!" He brought a friend or my girl but she doesn't even look up. She moved seats with the obstacle to sit next to me which I tease her for. We're both really mean and people watchers so we make fun of everyone including her best friend's BF for awhile. It turns out that they met in a sorority. Of course I tease her for that. I run Strawberry fields and she wants me to to run it on her friend. I refuse as her friend is already occupied with the BF and there's no point as I say the same thing EVERY time.
I ask her what's special about her and she tells me she's in commercial real estate. I run a role-play about her being my sugar mama and me lifting weights to show her what she's paying for. This leads into my summer of the ripped abs routine where I put her hands on my abs. TD pointed out to me that I should take more advantage of being in shape and make girls feel my muscles. I've been using this for awhile and it works really well for physical arousal.
Her friend and the boyfriend decide to leave. Earlier I had found out she drove herself so I know she can stay and she does. We have a few more drinks and play the question game. I ground my family a little bit and talk to her about what I'm writing right now. I've been doing some really good sexcalation and I eventually say something like " I wanna makeout with you in the bathroom. We get in the bathroom and I put my hands down here pants, but my friend the bartender bangs on the door and tells us we can't be in there together. I take that as an opportunity to bring her back to my place. We drive the two blocks because she doesn't wanna leave her car there. Get back to my place and all ends well.
She had a super hot body under that business wear. Huge boobs and a nice ass. The funniest part of the night was when the BF was leaving he tried a lame cockblocking attempt by telling her to use a condom and I tell her she's not getting laid. She also busted me on being out alone but I frame controlled it away by making it a joke. She even sent CJ a message from my phone calling him sexy... Sorry CJ :)
So that's 4 nights in a row of going out and pulling and 3 lays in those nights.
S
Anonymous said...
I think this LR just teaches you that life is what you make of it. You can either be a negative bitch or you can make things happen and get a sugar mama lay. Awesome.
-R (arr-ah)
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Friday, September 19, 2008
BJR: She left with another guy...
This actually happened on Monday night.
Last Monday myself, Speer and CJ headed down to a local sports bar to watch the Cowboys play the Eagles on MNF. There's a great bar in Dallas where hot girls actually go to watch football. I know it's weird. It's actually pretty annoying because you have to get there around 2 hours before kickoff to get a good table. So we get there, eat, wait for CJ and watch the game. While there I notice two girls who were Maxim level hot. Ridiculous. The only problem was they were across the patio with no path to walk over to them as they at a table behind a table. Finally one of them gets up to go to the bathroom and I open her direct. She says thank you and walks off. Swing and a miss. Oh well it was the only chance I had and I took it. So I feel pretty good about that.
Then after the game which the Eagles choked away, as Mcnabb had shades of Superbowls past. we head up to one of the social circle venues in Dallas. It's always got hot girls, the approach angles are terrible and there's a lot of dudes. I'm walking around talking to some girls when I see a very cute short girl with big tits in a texas tech shirt. She looks like she's in what i call "frisky" mode as she's walking around talking to a bunch of guys and flirting with them as they walk by. She touches CJ's face and he tells her it'll cost her a dollar. As she walks away I claw her in and tell her she's adorable. She's all over me. She starts telling me I'm sexy and pulling my shirt up in the middle of the club. My mind says extract. So I grab her by the hand and tell her we're taking a walk. She says she wants to grind me against a wall. I say outside.
I get her outside with minimal resistance as I just lead and go for it. The key to In venue lays is having the balls to keep going for it. Just move them out of the club and try to escalate the first private place you find. I find a a little corner behind a Chili's and push her against the wall. Makeout. Shirt off tits out. And pants down. as she's blowing me a car drives by and some black girls laugh at us. I move her further into the little alley. We finish up and I take her back inside. She buys me a drink and then tells me she's going to find her friends and to wait for her. I figure I'll try to pull another girl so I wander off and talk to some other girls. I also feel no approach anxiety as I actually did just get a blowjob.
I run into her on the dance floor an hour later and she's now obviously drunk. she's all over a couple of guys. I leave as I already got mine and this girl seems weird. Then I'm standing with CJ when I see her grinding and making out with a bald guy. I start cracking up until CJ tells me that I've probably made out with a girl who just blew some guy in the parking lot too. I choose to ignore this as it can't help me :)
Later in the night I saw the guy actually pull the girl, so kudos to him. And her for doing two guys in one night. Impressive.
Not really a lot of information in here except that girls will do incredibly slutty things. Which is good information to know.
S
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I went to Sunday Night Football with some friends. I'm 2 for 2 the last times I've gone out to watch football. Which just goes to show that the more you try to find avenues to meet girls you enjoy, the better you're results will get. The first time I wrote about in the BJR I posted awhile back and this time I ended up making out with both girls and taking one of them home. Then I went on a date with the other one last Tues. She's a weird Z list celeb so I'll write all about that when I get home. The date alone deserves it's own post for the wackiness of the situation. Then I headed down to Miami to work with one of my long term coaching students. He's been making huge progress. We worked on day game in South Beach, which as my buddy Trance noted " was like taking a rookie to the Super Bowl." He did great though and got a couple numbers despite being very inexperienced with day game.
I hate Miami a lot, but I have to admit it's probably the best place in the world for doing cold approach. The only places with girls of comparable hotness are Vegas and Stockholm. Vegas is an SNL town which is cool but you'd have a hard time retaining girls since almost everyone you meet will be a tourist. or stripper :) Stockholm can't even begin to compete in the weather department or the sheer size of the city. However Miami is still an unlivable cesspool of pretentious people, superficiality, and general douche-baggery. South Beach still looks like something out of the 70s. The pastel colors and bungalows come straight out of Grand Theft Auto. In fact it still feels like the guy from Vice City is gonna run up on you every time you're on the streets. I like a lot of the venues, but most of the weeknight hot spots are still home to the asshole door guy. It's funny because no matter how big the city there's still a core of club people. You'll always see the same people out on the same nights of the week, promoters and door guys will switch clubs, even bartenders swing between a couple of places a night. This is good news because if you're setting up a social circle, you don't need to befriend everyone, just the right people. That's a huge thing most people miss when they're trying to get their social circles together.
Once my one on one was over I headed up to NY to wrap up some filming on a project Julian Foxx and I are doing together. I met Julian the last time I was here and we really hit it off. We decided to film some stuff and we'll both be talking about that soon enough.
I got in Saturday afternoon and had set up a "sex date" with a girl I met the last time I was here a few weeks ago. I met her when I was out with Fader and a girl he was seeing in Hoboken. I actually had started off trying to hit on another of her friends(a redhead) before I found out she wasn't actually with the guy she was all over. She told me they were brother and sister, which later turned out not to be true. She's a pretty interesting girl. Very into the fetish scene but also a very successful health food store owner... We really hit it off that night, but she had to drive her "brother" home. I blew her off a few time to go out with Fader but kept in touch with her through text. She's ultra sexual and I'm pretty sure she was a stripper at some point judging by the way she danced. So we decided to set up a sex date for Sat night. She even told me she'd have to get rid of her date so she couldn't do anything til after 11. Turns out she had a ton of drama with her ex and ended up going drinking with her "brother". So I roll up to meet them at about 12:30 PM. The "brother" is a really cool guy in a fucked up situation, he's married to a woman he doesn't really love and they have a kid. He's also hooking up with my girl's friend. So he's got a ton of drama as well. I just sit and listen. He tells me he approved of me when we met because I was funny. I always like people better when they think I'm funny :) Anyway he has to go home so he dropped us off at her place. At which point she wanted to dance, so we head to a dance place. I informed her that I don't dance, but rather have seizures to music, and she tells me that's good because she'll have something to hold onto. We go, grind, and makeout with ice. Escalating with ice is a huge sexual suggestion, it assumes the sale and shows you know what women respond to sexually. Finally she looks at me and says " ready to go?". On the ride home she drives straight back to her place and then as we're pulling up, she says " OMG, I didn't even ask you if you wanted to come back here. That's rude of me." I told her it was ok and she just assumed the sell. We go upstairs she shows me her dog and then we both take showers before sex. One weird note is she had an IUD which was very strange and unexpected. Luckily she warned me about it, or I would have freaked out. I didn't get to bed until about 9 AM after she brought me back before going to work.
Can You Really Seduce A Stranger in 6 Minutes?
Hey guys,
Wanted to drop you a quick line today to talk about what's possible.
When I first got started in The Secret Underground Internet Seduction Community, I thought it was really difficult just to start a conversation with a stranger. Well 6 years later things are a little different, and I want to share this story from Vegas with everyone, not to brag, but to show you that ANYTHING is possible. Even consistent 6 minute seductions.
As many of you may know, I made the horrible decision to stay in Vegas for 4 days in between my first two 12 Months To Mastery bootcamps.(To learn why this was a bad idea check out my blog post on The Vegas Tipping point at http://sinnsofattraction.blogspot.com/2009/01/vegas-tipping-point.html ) Well Tuesday night Priest and I decided to hit the best party in town. Pure at Caesar's Palace. At Pure I did a number of approaches and nothing was going that well. Priest and I had a 2 set going but my girl was being way too ADD and she wasn't hot enough to get away with it :) So at around 2:30, I decide if we're going to keep gaming, we should be gaming at our hotel.
That's lesson number 1 for those of you looking to get laid fast! Know your logistics and keep them as favorable as possible. It's much harder to pull a girl from a club to a different hotel. If you can just go up an elevator, the pull becomes much easier.
So we head back to The Hard Rock. The Circle Bar was actually fairly lively for a Tuesday at 3 AM. There were a few sets and I start to look for girls who look bored, sexual, or like they want to trade up. Girls often settle for guys earlier in the night and then decide they don't like them later on. I want to find those girls. What I do to find these girls is make a rotation of the bar. However, you don't want it to look like you're "on the prowl" so you have to make a confused face like you're looking for a friend of yours. This is key to retaining social value.
The next part of super fast lays, is eye contact. You want to make searing, burning eye contact with as many girls as possible. Just make sure you still keep a smile on your face. You're looking for one of two responses. You want to approach girls who quickly break eye contact by looking down. This is a sign of sexual submission. Or you want to find girls who look away and then look back. There was a group of 3 hotties and as I was walking by, the blonde looked at me and then looked back as I walked by. I take an extra step, check my phone just cause I'm procrastinating and walk over.
I want to mention the next key point for super fast lays. Fashion and stereotyping. I was wearing a black pinstriped blazer with zippers all over it. Under that I had on a T-shirt I found in Australia with Sienna Miller flipping the bird topless, a pair of True Religion distressed jeans and my old school New Rocks. There's nothing spectacular about the outfit but it stands out without being weird. As usual I was the best dressed guy in the venue and the girls notice. If you don't get stared at or opened because of your fashion, you're doing something wrong. There are tons of great resources out there from style.com, to kinowear.com. There's no excuse for bad style, or not having an overall theme/stereotype to your look. Gone are the days when we can pretend fashion and presentation doesn't matter to getting laid. It does matter, and it's fully within your control.
After the eye contact I walked back over and said "hi" the girl immediately started telling me that she worked as a cocktail waitress at Treasure Island, she never goes out, and she's only here cause her brother's girlfriend(The Asian girl to her left) dragged her out. This is what's known as her qualifying herself to me off the opener. I now know she's attracted, it's 3 AM and she's with her brother's girlfriend. All signs are go, for the 10 minute lay. Then she asks me if I'm gay.
I get the gay thing once or twice a week, it's not a horrible problem as it allows me to escalate super fast. I say " I'm not gay and I'll prove it. Close your eyes." and then I kiss her. She practically sucks my face off. So I decide it's super on, and I'm gonna go for the 5 minute pull. I say " What are you guys up to right now?" She responds that they're waiting for her brother. I say "cool, shit I forgot my cigarettes upstairs. I'm gonna go get them." She starts to freak out her that I'm leaving, which is exactly what I wanted. this is a very subtle use of a take-away. Here I use it to gain emotional momentum to get her to come upstairs with me. She says " no, don't go! We'll get one down here." I say " Naw I only smoke Marlboro's, come upstairs with me to grab em. We'll be back before your brother gets here." She asks her friends if they're cool with that and away we go. Here, I just create some excuse for plausible deniability. As you can see it wasn't even that good of an excuse. But it worked.
Meet to elevator 3 minutes.
In the Elevator I ramp arousal. This is another key to quickies. I slam the girl against the wall, makeout with her and feel her up. Then as soon as we get to floor 4, I walk out of the elevator fast. This is a HUGE sexual push/pull. She gets aroused and starts to feel good and then it's gone. We get into the room and I throw her on the bed and pin her arms above her head. I go for the boobs then she says " When are you gonna fuck me? Before or after we smoke a cigarette? I laugh and we have sex. I look at the clock as I'm inside her and it's literally 6 minutes from when I checked my phone before going into the set.
I never would have imagined this was possible 6 years ago. But these situations happen to me all the time now. And they can happen to you too. The lesson to take out of this is not just controlling logistics in your favor, using eye contact to screen approaches, or ramping arousal as you're pulling. The real idea is that results like this are possible. A lot of times we read things like the "7 hour rule" or a girl tells us she doesn't sleep with guys right away and we get discouraged. The truth is seductions like this happen all over the world EVERY night of the week. It's just up to you to get out there and make it happen.
Til next time,
S
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Thursday, July 03, 2008
FUR: Handjob Interuptus...
I often complain. Longtime readers of my blog can no doubt remember tons of experiences where I complained about airlines, lack of sleep, etc... But the biggest thing I complain about to my friends is Las Vegas. See I have a love/hate relationship with Vegas. I love it because it allows me to indulge in all of my worst vices. But I hate it because I always end up feeling like a cigarette butt about two days in. So naturally when Moxie was leaving and he suggested going to Vegas for his blow out going away celebration I was in.
Fast forward through 5 days of debauchery and not coming home til the sun was out and we arrive at last Saturday night. We decided that since we were staying at the MGM we should take advantage of logistics and go to Studio 54. This was a mistake. I have NEVER seen so many ugly people in the same place ever. Seriously it was like a retarded leper colony reunion. It was the entire collection of " My father should have pulled out" trading cards. I'm still getting shivers thinking about it. And we got to pay a $20 cover because it was 12:01 and our passes were only good til 12...
So we do what all men in Vegas do when confronted with a time crunch and lack of options. We went to the Hard Rock Circle bar. I'm pretty pissed off at this point so I'm looking to open as quickly as possible. I open a 2 set with a short ugly girl and a hot blonde in a corset. I point out that she's short. They say they're going to meet they're friends and I should come. I meet another 5 girls and Moxie rolls over. Now we're just vibing until I isolate the corset girl and run strawberry fields on her. Then I pull her hair and she asks me what my sign is.
Me: Guess.
Her: Scorpio
Me: No way, I can't believe you guessed scorpio.
Her: Are you a scorpio?
Me: No Libra...
Her: I'm a scorpio we match sexually!
I tell her I'm really bad in bed and then pull her into me and pull her hair. This is something I do a lot. Verbally disqualifying myself sexually while sexually escalating to show her that I will fuck her shit up. It's a sexual version of push/pull except you disqualify yourself instead of her.
Moxie is pretty in with another tall hot blonde in the set and the ugs are getting restless. This was annoying because I had spent damn near 10 minutes talking to the ugs and making sure they were cool. I thought I had built a good rapport. My girl tries to number close me for sex the next morning. I smell a flake so I number close and then we walk with them to the outer ring of the casino. They say they're going to Mandalay Bay. We're down. I make out with my girl. But the ugs are plotting something. I can see it. I try to pull our girls back to the hotel and hear what would become the mantra of the night " I want to but I can't leave my friends." I go back in on the ugs and make them laugh for a few minutes then tell them ask for permission to take their friends away. The short ug I opened says in front of my girl " She can do whatever she wants" but she says it in the way that it actually means " I will hat you forever and tell everyone you're a huge slut if you go with these guys." So no go and eventually I realize we can't go with them cause the ugs won't have it and they won't leave with us either. A logistical blow out. Next set.
The next set I open is a blonde walking by. I open her by poking her in the stomach and then clawing her in. She's super attracted super fast and I'm thinking logistics. I want to make a point here. Whenever you open a single you can get her attracted enough that she will handle the obstacles for you. But you have to ask who they are. I ask her who she's here with. She lives in Vegas but is staying at the Hard Rock with some guy friends, who are hitting on some girls. Cool seems easy right? Wrong! She won't let me go to her room, she won't leave to come to mine, the bathroom has an attendent. Finally I remember a girl I banged out by the pool here one night. We walk past the guy cleaning the floor out the door that should be locked and we lay down on some lounge chairs. She straddles me, I pull her boobs out and whip out the cack. She's jerking me off when security walks by.
Security: Hey guys you can't be out here. Sorry to break it up seems like you were almost there. Most people hide in those cabanas.
I look at the girl she says " we're not going to the cabanas."
Fine as we're walking back to her friends I pull her in the leveator shove her against the wall and make out more. I hit the top floor 11. We get there and then she says we have to go back to her friends. I ask her where her room is. She says on the 4th floor. I hit the 4th floor button. She won't get out of the elevator and eventually I take her back to her friends. Where I get a lecture about how her guy friend wants me to fuck her so he can live vicariously through me. This is not good for ASD. We hang out a bit more but eventually she leaves with the dude, and I can't snag the invite up.
Next Set:
Now it's like 4 AM, I've gotten half a handjob and had two girls who want to fuck me but the gods of logisitics had me cursed. But I would overcome. I open a three set with a HUGE latin chick, a hot latin chick and a hot big tittied short blonde. Any guess as to who the target was?
It was not on at all at first. In fact I did multiple jealousy plots by grabbing girls as they walked by and opening them in front of the blonde. I also met some Hungarian porn stars who told me they were not there to fuck but they did hug me in front of the blonde so that's some social proof...
I keep disqualifying the girl, she's too nice, she's an only child, she's too blonde, she's kinda sexy and I would ruin her for all other men. Finally it starts to hook and we make-out. But not before we have the world's longest almost kiss. Seriously it was like 5 minutes of being lip to lip while we both said we weren't going to kiss. She finally lost. It's 5:30 AM So I go for the pull I get her out to the cab stand with the cab door open before she says " I can't leave my friends". I felt like Jules Winfield in that classic Pulp Fiction scene. I wanted to say
" I don't wanna hear about no goddamn friends. All I wanna hear from yo ass is go back in there chill them obstacles out and wait for me to leave with you which should be happening direct."
Ah butchering Tarantino...
Alas I go do some group stuff. The non fattie hates me. Moxie comes in and somehow fixes this. I really have no idea how but I suspect ninja magic.
The HUGE obstacle is talking to the scariest cholo of all time. I take this as an opportunity to try to pull my girl out to the cab again. I swear this guy must have been wondering why I kept bringing girls out to go back in. I pulled 3 different girls to the cab stand...
The guy the whale is talking to looked like he should be a hispanic rapper called MR Gangsta. He's actually cool as hell. And he wants to take the whale to breakfast. I say cool. We'll go eat room service at the MGM in RM # Whatever... I tell her the room number for safety. Fattie says yes cause let's face it she wants food. But the other latina obstacle and my girl are now worried about the whale. Internally I laugh and say there's nothing to worry about because she could always sit on him. Plus she's got enough blubber that if he shoots her it won't hit anything important. I don't say this. Sinn 5 years ago would so this is progress I suppose... The girls ditch us and the cholo and decide to go back to their hotel to eat. My girl tells me she's just not that kinda girl.
Argh , so I figured I'd post this because everyone can enjoy it. I enjoyed writing it cause it's a cathartic process and I'm finally over it now( I think). People who want to learn game can find a few decent nuggets in here, and the haters can laugh at how I didn't get laid despite three makeouts. Everyone wins!
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Monday, April 28, 2008
LR X 2 Anal sex, death threats and underage girls
It's been an amazing time out here in Vegas with El Topo and our super student. This guy was super serious about getting better and has spent 9 days total with myself, and ET. We've even been engineering a new way of lifestyle development with these one on ones as a way of integrating the habit of pick-up into your own life. It's super exciting stuff and we will be posting more about it later.
Onto the LRs. Since I've been in Vegas I've pulled every night. The first night I even got a death threat from the guy I pulled this set away from. It starts out with ET and I at a famous circular bar in Vegas where we ran into Brad P running a workshop. Brad has a new product called the adventures of Brad P which is awesome and only $ 19 bucks. I'll be posting a more in depth review of it soon. But we also run into former student Eight Rope and some creepy Indian dude( from now on CRID). 8 rope is doing well with his girl but the other one is clearly creeped. Somehow I start talking to her and she's all over my shit. The reason being that I actually escalate. 8 rope later said he was amazed watching me and ET work the set because we were getting them touching us and accepting escalation super fast after they had been talking to them for an hour. This is a lesson on why we have to escalate. Blow me or blow me out!
Anyway the CRID comes back into the set and I let it go as I'm not trying to steal the set. Now the girl moves away from where I had her isolated and rejoins the group to get away from him. She of course comes right next to me as I've already run strawberry Fields, rings on fingers and qualified her. SO it's on with a sexual vibe. there's a key distinction between it being on and it being on with a sexual vibe. if you don't try to communicate sexually with women it will be on but you will get LMR. Trust me I know from personal experience before I met CJ. So here comes the CRID again and now the girls are trying to bounce with us. The girls move away as the CRID grabs the hand of the girl I'm talking to. A minute before this I had explained to him that he creeped the girls out and that's why they were leaving I even gave him examples of how he was being overly aggressive. Some people read reports like this one and think all they have to do is grope and pull. There is a dance to escalation and the real power is in the take aways... I finally decide that since he's creeped them and they're leaving I'm gonna grab them. ET and I walk up say " We have to go to the bathroom and pull them away. Now he starts blowing up Eight rope's cell threatening to and I quote " Kill all of you!" He even continues to call the next day and say that he's with his boys and we can settle this now. Psycho Alert. The dude's a nutcase. Proving yet again why it's usually a bad idea to meet up with people off message boards. If you're reading this dude, you need psychological help and I hope you get it.
We bounce to a lounge in the same hotel and it's really on. We're making out she's trying to get me to dance and her and her friend begin talking about how my girl needs to get laid and how logistics are going to go down. Eight Rope politely excuses himself and we bounce the girls back to our hotel to smoke...
Now it gets tricky as I'm escalating on my girl on the bed and ET's chick wants to watch. but we separate and all goes well especially as this particular girl loved it up the butt. Various inappropriate things happen after this point.
The second night (Sat) I pulled a set and was having her flash people in the cab but lost it when her friend who's 30th Bday it was freaked out and they all had to rush to get her. I say save the drama for your mama and peace out!
Last night I got laid again with a 19 year old I met in the lobby of the Excalibur of all places. This is a big reminder to everyone(myself included) to kick game to girls all the time. You never know where those lays are going to come from and it's important to always have that SNL mindset even if you're chilling in a lobby of a gauche themed hotel. We game them and exchange numbers and through text I progessively escalate
Some ex:
Her: What are you doing tonight?
Me: Besides pinning you up against a wall and making out with you? Undecided...
Her: Yummy... How do you know me so well already?
Me: I'm awesome.
Her: That explains it.
Me: Aww you're making me blush and other things...
It continues like this but I'm a gentleman with class and won't sully my reports on the internet telling people about various chicks I bang with such filth :)
Anyway we meet up at the bar and bounce back to the hotel and the girls won't come up to the room. Fucking underage girls... I made a rule awhile ago to not fuck with girls under 25 as they know what's going down and how SNLs work. It's ok we build comfort at the bar. I escalate.ET brillantly bounces his girl to the lobby " To handle some shit and then up to the room"
I get a text from him that says in the room fucking. I tell the girl they're probably in the room and we should go break up their party. She agrees and we go up there. Now I know I'm not breaking up shit so I have to get her super aroused enough to fuck in the bathroom before we get to the room. So about 20 feet before our room. Which is down the longest hallway known to mankind. I slam her against the wall make out with her and start dirty talking. Now luckily she's wearing a skirt so I start to play with her and then I show her the text from 5 minutes ago and pretend we just got it. I go shit they are fucking we can't go in there... Unless you want to go in the bathroom where we have some privacy. She says she's down and I get a cramp from fucking this chick standing up in front of the mirror American Psycho style.
I guess the major lessons here are to be aware of logistics, use arousal to overcome bad logistics, start sexualizing the interaction as soon as you possibly can and have the balls to take the opportunity when it presents itself. I wasn't going to post LRs anymore but I think I'll go back to it as it gives me easy stuff to write about. I usually get between 5 and 10 a month and I will let you guys decide.
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Thursday, May 01, 2008
LR: Out Alone-Obstacles or Opportunities?
This girl actually just left my apt, about 20 mins ago.
Flashback to last night. Nobody wants to go out. CJ has a date, Printer flakes for no explained reason and doesn't return calls or texts. Fidelio and ET are working and then going home, Shaft is working. S0 here I am in my underwear watching the Hawks and Celts play and wondering if I should go out tonight. Add to it that in my experience Wednesday is the worst day to go out in Dallas and I don't have a car because... well because my car sucks balls. Most guys would see that as enough of a reason to stay home, smoke a bowl and play on the internet. Not me. This to me is a big difference between the guys who get massive results and the guys who just kinda struggle. CJ for awhile had no car, his daughters two weekends a month and lived at his Mom's house. yet he still got good at SNLs because he saw opportunities instead of obstacles. Most guys are too quick to make excuses as to why they can't go out or why they can't approach or why they can't try to pull etc.. There's two sides to every coin and that means that in every situation that seems to suck there's some way to improve and try to get laid. You just have to be looking for it.
Onto the LR. I decide to roll out to the bars by my house. I'm not expecting it to be a great night but I stop by the bar across the street. It's dead. The guy ET and I know who works there isn't even there so I bail and go to the sports bar across from there. The Stars are getting beaten by the Sharks yet there are no attractive hockey groupies, so I finally decide to go to my local dive. This is a place I never really go as it isn't a great placer for pick-up usually but tonight it's packed. I'm standing line for the bathroom when I hear everyone in the bar clapping and then turn to my right and see a seven foot tall drunk Dirk Nowitzki. He's so drunk he goes into the women's bathroom to piss. I text Fidelio about this and he responds " That's y they lost he's got a vagina". I go out and start opening sets.
The first set is a two set of blondes who I open with Brad P's Lesbian DTR opener. It doesn't really hook and I walk away without plowing. The next set I open I actually just want a cigarette and I ask for one but the girls don't have any. I've noticed that lately I am having way more trouble getting people to give me cigarettes. It started when I was in San Jose a couple of weeks ago, and has continued through Vegas and Dallas... Weird. Anyway I try to stack forward, but to no avail. And now I have two blowouts. I open another two set and get nowhere again when two girls who are in matching business wear walk in. They're very cute and more importantly they're the only set I haven't opened yet in the tiny shitty bar.
So I open them. There is a seat next to them at the bar so I sit down and open situationally by saying that I wish I had worn my white button down shirt too so I wasn't wrecking the sequence. They laugh and then we start talking about the drunk girl who is basically falling down and popping out of her shirt at the same time. I say we should start taking bets on what's going to happen. Her falling down is even money and her boobs popping out is 2 to 1. The target girl suggests that I go for her. I tease her and say we're not going to get along. Then I run rings on fingers and slap her hand. The obstacles boyfriend shows up and is all " Hey what's up dude!" He brought a friend or my girl but she doesn't even look up. She moved seats with the obstacle to sit next to me which I tease her for. We're both really mean and people watchers so we make fun of everyone including her best friend's BF for awhile. It turns out that they met in a sorority. Of course I tease her for that. I run Strawberry fields and she wants me to to run it on her friend. I refuse as her friend is already occupied with the BF and there's no point as I say the same thing EVERY time.
I ask her what's special about her and she tells me she's in commercial real estate. I run a role-play about her being my sugar mama and me lifting weights to show her what she's paying for. This leads into my summer of the ripped abs routine where I put her hands on my abs. TD pointed out to me that I should take more advantage of being in shape and make girls feel my muscles. I've been using this for awhile and it works really well for physical arousal.
Her friend and the boyfriend decide to leave. Earlier I had found out she drove herself so I know she can stay and she does. We have a few more drinks and play the question game. I ground my family a little bit and talk to her about what I'm writing right now. I've been doing some really good sexcalation and I eventually say something like " I wanna makeout with you in the bathroom. We get in the bathroom and I put my hands down here pants, but my friend the bartender bangs on the door and tells us we can't be in there together. I take that as an opportunity to bring her back to my place. We drive the two blocks because she doesn't wanna leave her car there. Get back to my place and all ends well.
She had a super hot body under that business wear. Huge boobs and a nice ass. The funniest part of the night was when the BF was leaving he tried a lame cockblocking attempt by telling her to use a condom and I tell her she's not getting laid. She also busted me on being out alone but I frame controlled it away by making it a joke. She even sent CJ a message from my phone calling him sexy... Sorry CJ :)
So that's 4 nights in a row of going out and pulling and 3 lays in those nights.
S
Anonymous said...
I think this LR just teaches you that life is what you make of it. You can either be a negative bitch or you can make things happen and get a sugar mama lay. Awesome.
-R (arr-ah)
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Friday, September 19, 2008
BJR: She left with another guy...
This actually happened on Monday night.
Last Monday myself, Speer and CJ headed down to a local sports bar to watch the Cowboys play the Eagles on MNF. There's a great bar in Dallas where hot girls actually go to watch football. I know it's weird. It's actually pretty annoying because you have to get there around 2 hours before kickoff to get a good table. So we get there, eat, wait for CJ and watch the game. While there I notice two girls who were Maxim level hot. Ridiculous. The only problem was they were across the patio with no path to walk over to them as they at a table behind a table. Finally one of them gets up to go to the bathroom and I open her direct. She says thank you and walks off. Swing and a miss. Oh well it was the only chance I had and I took it. So I feel pretty good about that.
Then after the game which the Eagles choked away, as Mcnabb had shades of Superbowls past. we head up to one of the social circle venues in Dallas. It's always got hot girls, the approach angles are terrible and there's a lot of dudes. I'm walking around talking to some girls when I see a very cute short girl with big tits in a texas tech shirt. She looks like she's in what i call "frisky" mode as she's walking around talking to a bunch of guys and flirting with them as they walk by. She touches CJ's face and he tells her it'll cost her a dollar. As she walks away I claw her in and tell her she's adorable. She's all over me. She starts telling me I'm sexy and pulling my shirt up in the middle of the club. My mind says extract. So I grab her by the hand and tell her we're taking a walk. She says she wants to grind me against a wall. I say outside.
I get her outside with minimal resistance as I just lead and go for it. The key to In venue lays is having the balls to keep going for it. Just move them out of the club and try to escalate the first private place you find. I find a a little corner behind a Chili's and push her against the wall. Makeout. Shirt off tits out. And pants down. as she's blowing me a car drives by and some black girls laugh at us. I move her further into the little alley. We finish up and I take her back inside. She buys me a drink and then tells me she's going to find her friends and to wait for her. I figure I'll try to pull another girl so I wander off and talk to some other girls. I also feel no approach anxiety as I actually did just get a blowjob.
I run into her on the dance floor an hour later and she's now obviously drunk. she's all over a couple of guys. I leave as I already got mine and this girl seems weird. Then I'm standing with CJ when I see her grinding and making out with a bald guy. I start cracking up until CJ tells me that I've probably made out with a girl who just blew some guy in the parking lot too. I choose to ignore this as it can't help me :)
Later in the night I saw the guy actually pull the girl, so kudos to him. And her for doing two guys in one night. Impressive.
Not really a lot of information in here except that girls will do incredibly slutty things. Which is good information to know.
S
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I went to Sunday Night Football with some friends. I'm 2 for 2 the last times I've gone out to watch football. Which just goes to show that the more you try to find avenues to meet girls you enjoy, the better you're results will get. The first time I wrote about in the BJR I posted awhile back and this time I ended up making out with both girls and taking one of them home. Then I went on a date with the other one last Tues. She's a weird Z list celeb so I'll write all about that when I get home. The date alone deserves it's own post for the wackiness of the situation. Then I headed down to Miami to work with one of my long term coaching students. He's been making huge progress. We worked on day game in South Beach, which as my buddy Trance noted " was like taking a rookie to the Super Bowl." He did great though and got a couple numbers despite being very inexperienced with day game.
I hate Miami a lot, but I have to admit it's probably the best place in the world for doing cold approach. The only places with girls of comparable hotness are Vegas and Stockholm. Vegas is an SNL town which is cool but you'd have a hard time retaining girls since almost everyone you meet will be a tourist. or stripper :) Stockholm can't even begin to compete in the weather department or the sheer size of the city. However Miami is still an unlivable cesspool of pretentious people, superficiality, and general douche-baggery. South Beach still looks like something out of the 70s. The pastel colors and bungalows come straight out of Grand Theft Auto. In fact it still feels like the guy from Vice City is gonna run up on you every time you're on the streets. I like a lot of the venues, but most of the weeknight hot spots are still home to the asshole door guy. It's funny because no matter how big the city there's still a core of club people. You'll always see the same people out on the same nights of the week, promoters and door guys will switch clubs, even bartenders swing between a couple of places a night. This is good news because if you're setting up a social circle, you don't need to befriend everyone, just the right people. That's a huge thing most people miss when they're trying to get their social circles together.
Once my one on one was over I headed up to NY to wrap up some filming on a project Julian Foxx and I are doing together. I met Julian the last time I was here and we really hit it off. We decided to film some stuff and we'll both be talking about that soon enough.
I got in Saturday afternoon and had set up a "sex date" with a girl I met the last time I was here a few weeks ago. I met her when I was out with Fader and a girl he was seeing in Hoboken. I actually had started off trying to hit on another of her friends(a redhead) before I found out she wasn't actually with the guy she was all over. She told me they were brother and sister, which later turned out not to be true. She's a pretty interesting girl. Very into the fetish scene but also a very successful health food store owner... We really hit it off that night, but she had to drive her "brother" home. I blew her off a few time to go out with Fader but kept in touch with her through text. She's ultra sexual and I'm pretty sure she was a stripper at some point judging by the way she danced. So we decided to set up a sex date for Sat night. She even told me she'd have to get rid of her date so she couldn't do anything til after 11. Turns out she had a ton of drama with her ex and ended up going drinking with her "brother". So I roll up to meet them at about 12:30 PM. The "brother" is a really cool guy in a fucked up situation, he's married to a woman he doesn't really love and they have a kid. He's also hooking up with my girl's friend. So he's got a ton of drama as well. I just sit and listen. He tells me he approved of me when we met because I was funny. I always like people better when they think I'm funny :) Anyway he has to go home so he dropped us off at her place. At which point she wanted to dance, so we head to a dance place. I informed her that I don't dance, but rather have seizures to music, and she tells me that's good because she'll have something to hold onto. We go, grind, and makeout with ice. Escalating with ice is a huge sexual suggestion, it assumes the sale and shows you know what women respond to sexually. Finally she looks at me and says " ready to go?". On the ride home she drives straight back to her place and then as we're pulling up, she says " OMG, I didn't even ask you if you wanted to come back here. That's rude of me." I told her it was ok and she just assumed the sell. We go upstairs she shows me her dog and then we both take showers before sex. One weird note is she had an IUD which was very strange and unexpected. Luckily she warned me about it, or I would have freaked out. I didn't get to bed until about 9 AM after she brought me back before going to work.
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