The PDF on closing is legit. Janka is really thorough in explaining exactly what he does. I've never read anything else like it from a pickup guru. Pretty much all the other gurus look like total n00b virgins when you look at them in comparison to Janka.
Seriously, you wanna get good at game:
- Get in shape
- Get your fashion and grooming straight
- Get your inner game straight (Don't use pickup gurus as a source for this)
- Study Janka and 60 YoC*
- Approach
That's all you need to get good. Really. It's not a popular message because it involves effort instead of a magic bullet, but, that's how you get good.
(*If you're a total noob, also read the David D ebooks Double Your Dating and Attractin is Not a Choice. Still very good for basic mindset shifts. Also study David Shade for mindest/sexuality, and Hypnotica is good as well. Everyone else is garbage,.)
Quote:
Everyone else is garbage
..yea that's a horrible overstatement, lol
60 and Janka are dope and in my top 5, but Rob Judge, Chase Amante, Mark Manson, and Assanova are surely not garbage
I'd stay away from David Deangelo and Hypnotica...
and scrap the david shade and go with Sex God Method
Yes that was absolutely an overstatement but it was one with purpose.
The point is what I highlighted is all you need to get started. People get bogged down by reading too many authors and that ends up preventing them from taking action.
"The truth is simple. If it were complicated, everone would understand it.
- Hale Dwoskin
(Who said that at the beginning of a 20 CD set It's a true statement though.)
Pickup is really pretty simple.
Yes others have some good/insightful things to say. But, keeping it simple.... until you've gotten consistent results..... is the best way to go instead of studying more and more and more.
I had one question for the book though.
What happens if you live with mom?
Like for us age 18 - 24 (I'm 21 btw.)
EDIT: This is an awesome book. COMBINE THIS WITH THE CBT/ THE WORK/SEDONA = Win
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Tuesday, March 1, 2011
Monday, February 14, 2011
Swinggcats emails me about closing the girl right there
You've got a belief problem, my friend.
I think location means a lot. In fact, I live in Hollywood. All I have to do is role out of bed and I'm in the clubs and bars I frequent. This makes a big difference.
But here's where things take a turn for the weird...
Years ago, I started having freaky experiences. Every once in a while when a girl was really into me or ready to go I'd discard location issues and have sex with her right there. I remember the first few times I had sex with a girl in a nightclub bathroom. I thought to myself, "Wow... this girl is really adventurous. I wish all girls were this way."
Then things got freakier and I slept with a girl in the middle of a club.
In recent years, things have changed. This shit happens to me all the time.
Quick story... This past weekend, I was leaving a bar with a friend of mine and I spotted a tall blonde sitting on a parking curb next her BMW. (She had locked the keys in her car.) So I sat down next to her, told her she was cute. She told me that she thought I was cute too. So I hugged her, started making out with her. Then I told her to lean back and I started eating her pussy. Then I told her to stand up and turn around and I started having sex with her from behind. As I was doing her male passersby were cheering me on. It really is that easy.
Yes, it's true, you could potentially get in some trouble for this kinda lewd conduct. But I think the benefits of being daring far out way the consequences.
And calibrate... not every girl is gonna be down for this. But if she's really into you or looking to get laid try. Go for the make out. If she's into that, try to lead her into the bathroom or have sex with her right there. If she already likes you, trying this won't kill the attraction - even if she resists. My point: it never hurts to try and a lot of times it works.
I think location means a lot. In fact, I live in Hollywood. All I have to do is role out of bed and I'm in the clubs and bars I frequent. This makes a big difference.
But here's where things take a turn for the weird...
Years ago, I started having freaky experiences. Every once in a while when a girl was really into me or ready to go I'd discard location issues and have sex with her right there. I remember the first few times I had sex with a girl in a nightclub bathroom. I thought to myself, "Wow... this girl is really adventurous. I wish all girls were this way."
Then things got freakier and I slept with a girl in the middle of a club.
In recent years, things have changed. This shit happens to me all the time.
Quick story... This past weekend, I was leaving a bar with a friend of mine and I spotted a tall blonde sitting on a parking curb next her BMW. (She had locked the keys in her car.) So I sat down next to her, told her she was cute. She told me that she thought I was cute too. So I hugged her, started making out with her. Then I told her to lean back and I started eating her pussy. Then I told her to stand up and turn around and I started having sex with her from behind. As I was doing her male passersby were cheering me on. It really is that easy.
Yes, it's true, you could potentially get in some trouble for this kinda lewd conduct. But I think the benefits of being daring far out way the consequences.
And calibrate... not every girl is gonna be down for this. But if she's really into you or looking to get laid try. Go for the make out. If she's into that, try to lead her into the bathroom or have sex with her right there. If she already likes you, trying this won't kill the attraction - even if she resists. My point: it never hurts to try and a lot of times it works.
Tuesday, January 18, 2011
How to Escalate physically, build sexual tension and get dates back to your house.
Dates part 2: How to build sexual tension, escalate physically and get her back to your place.
On the last part of this mailbag , I talked about how to set up dates and what the overall vibe should be. This time we’re going to discuss how to escalate things further.
The most important thing about building sexual tension, and getting her back to your place is breaking the physical barriers early on. You need to re-establish touching as soon as you see her. When you see her you need to give her a big hug and then push her away. You want to retain the reset model of touching where you break all physical contact after every escalation. But you don’t want to waste any time in escalating the touching. You should be holding hands when you’re walking or driving to the first venue. You also want to look for random opportunities to kiss her if it didn’t feel right at the beginning.
One of my favorite ways to build sexual tension is through the use of the almost kiss. I learned this from Future and it is still my favorite way to kiss a girl. Somewhere on my date I will look at her while she’s talking I’ll say “ You know it’s really hard for me to pay attention to what you’re saying when I keep thinking about kissing you. But I know we’re not ready for that yet so I tell you what we’re going to do. We’re going to Almost kiss. Then I get them to pinky swear not kiss me and I promise not to kiss them. Then you get really close to their lips for about 2 seconds. This is great for building sexual tension because a few minutes later you can call it back and say you’re ready for another almost kiss.
Another thing you want to do to build sexual tension is alternate sexual indicators of interest with regular qualification statements and comfort frames. Dates are all about comfort so the first and foremost focus of our interaction should be on making the girl as comfortable with us as possible by letting her get to know us. B y demonstrating who we are and where we came from she gets to know us and feels more comfortable around us as she’s starting to get an idea of how you are going to act at any given time. We also need to get her to become comfortable with our touch and our indicators of interest. That means we are going to be cycling qualification and compliments into our comfort material. We need to hit on the girl a lot and demonstrate that we are attracted to her both physically and for her non-physcial attributes. Then we need to introduce sexuality. Qualification is the mchanism we use to move between comfort and seduction. This fractionating between hitting on her sexually, qualifying her and building comfort is what leads to getting laid on dates.
The nest key step in getting girls back to your place is handling logisitics. You need to have a reason to bring her back to your place. I always loan girls books at the end of the date or offer to let them come up to use the bathroom and get a glass of water if I couldn’t get them up any other way. This is where having a cool movie, a great new piece of music even a cool or different type of wine or liquor like Absinthe comes into play. We want to create plausible deniability so that she doesn’t feel guilty for coming up. It’s also important to use a false time constraint when bringing a girl home if only to make her think she can’t spend the night ☺
Lastly you need to let her know that you are interested in having sex with her. And it’s her fault for being so sexy… This is what prepping is all about. Prepping statements cimply let a woman know what you are planning to do later with her. Saying something like “ You have no idea what I’m thinking about doing to you right now.. Stop being cute. Gives both a prep and a release to keep up the tension. But you have made a sexual indicator of interest. The more of these you can do the better. This is the art of coquetting. I leraned this from all the exotic dancers I dated. You sexually pull them in then push them away and take away their sexuality with a a tease and comfort building conversations. Make sure you demonstrate interest in her and sex with her.
Now you guys know how to set up and start dates, the amount of venues to take them through, what to talk about while on a date and how to escalate, build sexual tension and get girls home with you.
On the last part of this mailbag , I talked about how to set up dates and what the overall vibe should be. This time we’re going to discuss how to escalate things further.
The most important thing about building sexual tension, and getting her back to your place is breaking the physical barriers early on. You need to re-establish touching as soon as you see her. When you see her you need to give her a big hug and then push her away. You want to retain the reset model of touching where you break all physical contact after every escalation. But you don’t want to waste any time in escalating the touching. You should be holding hands when you’re walking or driving to the first venue. You also want to look for random opportunities to kiss her if it didn’t feel right at the beginning.
One of my favorite ways to build sexual tension is through the use of the almost kiss. I learned this from Future and it is still my favorite way to kiss a girl. Somewhere on my date I will look at her while she’s talking I’ll say “ You know it’s really hard for me to pay attention to what you’re saying when I keep thinking about kissing you. But I know we’re not ready for that yet so I tell you what we’re going to do. We’re going to Almost kiss. Then I get them to pinky swear not kiss me and I promise not to kiss them. Then you get really close to their lips for about 2 seconds. This is great for building sexual tension because a few minutes later you can call it back and say you’re ready for another almost kiss.
Another thing you want to do to build sexual tension is alternate sexual indicators of interest with regular qualification statements and comfort frames. Dates are all about comfort so the first and foremost focus of our interaction should be on making the girl as comfortable with us as possible by letting her get to know us. B y demonstrating who we are and where we came from she gets to know us and feels more comfortable around us as she’s starting to get an idea of how you are going to act at any given time. We also need to get her to become comfortable with our touch and our indicators of interest. That means we are going to be cycling qualification and compliments into our comfort material. We need to hit on the girl a lot and demonstrate that we are attracted to her both physically and for her non-physcial attributes. Then we need to introduce sexuality. Qualification is the mchanism we use to move between comfort and seduction. This fractionating between hitting on her sexually, qualifying her and building comfort is what leads to getting laid on dates.
The nest key step in getting girls back to your place is handling logisitics. You need to have a reason to bring her back to your place. I always loan girls books at the end of the date or offer to let them come up to use the bathroom and get a glass of water if I couldn’t get them up any other way. This is where having a cool movie, a great new piece of music even a cool or different type of wine or liquor like Absinthe comes into play. We want to create plausible deniability so that she doesn’t feel guilty for coming up. It’s also important to use a false time constraint when bringing a girl home if only to make her think she can’t spend the night ☺
Lastly you need to let her know that you are interested in having sex with her. And it’s her fault for being so sexy… This is what prepping is all about. Prepping statements cimply let a woman know what you are planning to do later with her. Saying something like “ You have no idea what I’m thinking about doing to you right now.. Stop being cute. Gives both a prep and a release to keep up the tension. But you have made a sexual indicator of interest. The more of these you can do the better. This is the art of coquetting. I leraned this from all the exotic dancers I dated. You sexually pull them in then push them away and take away their sexuality with a a tease and comfort building conversations. Make sure you demonstrate interest in her and sex with her.
Now you guys know how to set up and start dates, the amount of venues to take them through, what to talk about while on a date and how to escalate, build sexual tension and get girls home with you.
Thursday, January 6, 2011
sandros FIRST DATE 95% CLOSING RATE Step by STEp
I always did this plan for first date :
first meet up at park and spank her in the ass as you meet up with her, i always show up 5 minutes late to blame her for making me get lost...we chat for a bit and then take her to low lighting wine bar , we drink 2 or 3 glasses of wine or depending on conversation or rhythm of the seduction IF ITS ON.
at times I have ordered an apetizer and thats it, no food no dinner.
I always get a make out in the wine bar and have her talking more and more and have her laughing..i always seed about anything I have at home and how I love to eat desserts as a late night snack...then when its time to pay , I pay and tell her you get dessert :)
then I take her out as we leave and I will lift her up and make her say "whoa!" and then kiss her as she is coming down...
I take a cab, I never walk...depends Ive had girls that in second meet up I never had a date and ended up straight to sex in my place.
I dont tell her where we are going only tell her we are going for dessert as we get off if she asks...
I go to a store,bodega,qwik mart etc etc by my apt, it has Haagen daaz I really dont care the flavor but i already know the girls favorite from an earlier convo by phone or text or that night.
MOST GIRLS WILL LIKE MINT CHOCALATE CHIP from benjerry i dk why but most chicks like that...
I choose strawberry cause its universal.
I MAKE HER BUY IT and MAKE HER PAY, I never pay and I use social pressure to pay...
this is to get her to invest and make her backwards rationalize that she likes me enought to buy me my favorite dessert.
after she pays I walk toward my place and tell her that we will eat dessert and I will kick you out cause I have to get up early next day...and say it with a smile :)
girls at time resist not going up but when I tell them that they go , we either end up making out at elevator and go to sex or kiss and then hold hands to apt..
in apt she gets on my bed takes off her shoes ...and I bring 2 spoons...
one for each and I as i open the ice cream I give her the first in her mouth as Im sexually eye contact and go for the kiss again.
here I can play as I can go back and forth back and forth...usually ends up either not finishing the ice cream and its melting as Im already having sex with her...
there was only one time where I didnt have and cause she was abit scared or whatever but I at the end where I took her to her train station I made her really happy that she say
"you make me feel like a little girl again" like I bring good emotions..and thouse good emotions are addicting, especially when there are alot of women who are bored and want to feel powerful emotions....and she called me next day wanting to see me and basically She withing few minutes at my place poured wine allover my chest and licked it off....then she told me that she wanted me to fuck her in the ass....
thats different form of seduction itself...
I for one am struggling cause girls Im meeting dont really want to connect at that level and Im used to meeting girls who want to connect, so Im trying to see how reckless game can work as I adjust to new miami enviroment.
this is detailed and sorry for the long post but I can asure you that this will get you laid 95% first date.
thanks
first meet up at park and spank her in the ass as you meet up with her, i always show up 5 minutes late to blame her for making me get lost...we chat for a bit and then take her to low lighting wine bar , we drink 2 or 3 glasses of wine or depending on conversation or rhythm of the seduction IF ITS ON.
at times I have ordered an apetizer and thats it, no food no dinner.
I always get a make out in the wine bar and have her talking more and more and have her laughing..i always seed about anything I have at home and how I love to eat desserts as a late night snack...then when its time to pay , I pay and tell her you get dessert :)
then I take her out as we leave and I will lift her up and make her say "whoa!" and then kiss her as she is coming down...
I take a cab, I never walk...depends Ive had girls that in second meet up I never had a date and ended up straight to sex in my place.
I dont tell her where we are going only tell her we are going for dessert as we get off if she asks...
I go to a store,bodega,qwik mart etc etc by my apt, it has Haagen daaz I really dont care the flavor but i already know the girls favorite from an earlier convo by phone or text or that night.
MOST GIRLS WILL LIKE MINT CHOCALATE CHIP from benjerry i dk why but most chicks like that...
I choose strawberry cause its universal.
I MAKE HER BUY IT and MAKE HER PAY, I never pay and I use social pressure to pay...
this is to get her to invest and make her backwards rationalize that she likes me enought to buy me my favorite dessert.
after she pays I walk toward my place and tell her that we will eat dessert and I will kick you out cause I have to get up early next day...and say it with a smile :)
girls at time resist not going up but when I tell them that they go , we either end up making out at elevator and go to sex or kiss and then hold hands to apt..
in apt she gets on my bed takes off her shoes ...and I bring 2 spoons...
one for each and I as i open the ice cream I give her the first in her mouth as Im sexually eye contact and go for the kiss again.
here I can play as I can go back and forth back and forth...usually ends up either not finishing the ice cream and its melting as Im already having sex with her...
there was only one time where I didnt have and cause she was abit scared or whatever but I at the end where I took her to her train station I made her really happy that she say
"you make me feel like a little girl again" like I bring good emotions..and thouse good emotions are addicting, especially when there are alot of women who are bored and want to feel powerful emotions....and she called me next day wanting to see me and basically She withing few minutes at my place poured wine allover my chest and licked it off....then she told me that she wanted me to fuck her in the ass....
thats different form of seduction itself...
I for one am struggling cause girls Im meeting dont really want to connect at that level and Im used to meeting girls who want to connect, so Im trying to see how reckless game can work as I adjust to new miami enviroment.
this is detailed and sorry for the long post but I can asure you that this will get you laid 95% first date.
thanks
Wednesday, January 5, 2011
how to tease a girl so she throws herself at you by Roosh
Sandros,
Years ago a friend told me that if you slap someone with your bare
hand, you will feel as much pain as the person you slapped. And
it's true because the nerve receptors in your hand cannot tell the
difference if it's doing the slapping or if it's being slapped.
(This is probably why my mom preferred to beat me with a broom.)
Let me explain how this concept applies to game.
I was at a club with a girl I had been on one date with. We hadn't
had sex yet but I definitely wanted to. When I look back in my
dating history at girls that really got me going, I noticed they
were all very good at teasing me.
These girls knew how to restrain themselves and postpone some
pleasure now for more pleasure later. I understood this concept and
was beginning to use it on girls, but I would often give in early
because I was impatient and horny.
I didn't fully understand that the anticipation of intimacy is more
arousing than intimacy itself. Therefore anticipation of a kiss is
more arousing than the kiss itself. You can suck face with someone
for one hour, but after time you will get less from that kiss until
your lips go numb and you don't feel like kissing anymore. In fact
the best way to make a girl horny is to kiss her LESS and build
sexual tension that begs to be relieved in the bedroom.
My date and I already kissed before so there wasn't going to be any
major surprise in this club, but what I would do is get very close
to her lips and barely brush against them with mine without kissing
her, and then pull back. Her head would follow me back, until she
realized I wasn't going to kiss her. She would smile and I would
smile, and we'd take a sip of our drink and dance a little more.
That night I did the pull-back game for almost TWO HOURS without
kissing her once, until I was ready to explode (remember that when
you tease someone, you tease yourself by the same amount). But she
had no idea that I was going through a harder time than she was
because I did my best to put on a relaxed fascade.
Let me sidetrack real quick and mention that this idea works with
emotions too. It's impossible not to feel the emotions you try to
make others feel. If you want a girl to fall in love with you, and
you seduce her successfully, you will also fall in love with her.
Knowing this is incredible because it says that you can feel
whatever emotion you try to create in others.
For example if I want to feel passion, I just have to make someone
else feel it. If I want to feel love, I just have to make someone
else feel love. Unfortunately many people unknowingly use this for
negative emotions such as jealousy, fear, and anger, wondering why
they are can't find someone who makes them feel happy.
Back to the story. I drove my date home and in my bedroom she gave
me absolutely no resistance. She let me do whatever I wanted to do
and for that night her body was mine in any way I desired.
After that incredible night, does it mean I can stop teasing her?
Of course not! No matter how far along the relationship we are,
both of us have to keep the sexual tension tight to keep the good
feelings going. The moment either of us stops putting in work to
induce maximal pleasure is the moment the relationship will become
stale. Because anyone can just keep making out. But not many cannot.
The only way I learned how to tease a girl was by taking notes on
all the girls I was hooking up and having sex with. If what they
did felt really good to me, I figured it would feel good to a girl
as well. Most of what I learned about how to please women and
satisfy them actually comes from girls.
Before you can get to the point where you are teasing and kissing a
girl, you need to know how to build attraction. I used to live in
my own personal hell because there would be a girl I liked but I
had no idea how to build attraction, no idea how to kiss her, and
no idea how to get her in bed. I had the desire, but I didn't have
the knowledge because my toolbox was completely empty. It took me
years to learn that knowledge, and another year to put it down in
writing.
My book Bang is a 60,000 word reference guide that describes
exactly how to have sex with girls you like, starting from the
optimal mindset you need to bang a lot of women. Now you're free to
study other materials in your game journey, but I'm confident that
Bang is all you need to reach your maximum potential. Click below
to order my book today and remember that is comes with a
no-questions-asked money back guarantee...
http://www.bangfieldguide.com/newsletter/go/order
Also if you liked this newsletter, please forward it on to a friend. Thanks!
Roosh
Years ago a friend told me that if you slap someone with your bare
hand, you will feel as much pain as the person you slapped. And
it's true because the nerve receptors in your hand cannot tell the
difference if it's doing the slapping or if it's being slapped.
(This is probably why my mom preferred to beat me with a broom.)
Let me explain how this concept applies to game.
I was at a club with a girl I had been on one date with. We hadn't
had sex yet but I definitely wanted to. When I look back in my
dating history at girls that really got me going, I noticed they
were all very good at teasing me.
These girls knew how to restrain themselves and postpone some
pleasure now for more pleasure later. I understood this concept and
was beginning to use it on girls, but I would often give in early
because I was impatient and horny.
I didn't fully understand that the anticipation of intimacy is more
arousing than intimacy itself. Therefore anticipation of a kiss is
more arousing than the kiss itself. You can suck face with someone
for one hour, but after time you will get less from that kiss until
your lips go numb and you don't feel like kissing anymore. In fact
the best way to make a girl horny is to kiss her LESS and build
sexual tension that begs to be relieved in the bedroom.
My date and I already kissed before so there wasn't going to be any
major surprise in this club, but what I would do is get very close
to her lips and barely brush against them with mine without kissing
her, and then pull back. Her head would follow me back, until she
realized I wasn't going to kiss her. She would smile and I would
smile, and we'd take a sip of our drink and dance a little more.
That night I did the pull-back game for almost TWO HOURS without
kissing her once, until I was ready to explode (remember that when
you tease someone, you tease yourself by the same amount). But she
had no idea that I was going through a harder time than she was
because I did my best to put on a relaxed fascade.
Let me sidetrack real quick and mention that this idea works with
emotions too. It's impossible not to feel the emotions you try to
make others feel. If you want a girl to fall in love with you, and
you seduce her successfully, you will also fall in love with her.
Knowing this is incredible because it says that you can feel
whatever emotion you try to create in others.
For example if I want to feel passion, I just have to make someone
else feel it. If I want to feel love, I just have to make someone
else feel love. Unfortunately many people unknowingly use this for
negative emotions such as jealousy, fear, and anger, wondering why
they are can't find someone who makes them feel happy.
Back to the story. I drove my date home and in my bedroom she gave
me absolutely no resistance. She let me do whatever I wanted to do
and for that night her body was mine in any way I desired.
After that incredible night, does it mean I can stop teasing her?
Of course not! No matter how far along the relationship we are,
both of us have to keep the sexual tension tight to keep the good
feelings going. The moment either of us stops putting in work to
induce maximal pleasure is the moment the relationship will become
stale. Because anyone can just keep making out. But not many cannot.
The only way I learned how to tease a girl was by taking notes on
all the girls I was hooking up and having sex with. If what they
did felt really good to me, I figured it would feel good to a girl
as well. Most of what I learned about how to please women and
satisfy them actually comes from girls.
Before you can get to the point where you are teasing and kissing a
girl, you need to know how to build attraction. I used to live in
my own personal hell because there would be a girl I liked but I
had no idea how to build attraction, no idea how to kiss her, and
no idea how to get her in bed. I had the desire, but I didn't have
the knowledge because my toolbox was completely empty. It took me
years to learn that knowledge, and another year to put it down in
writing.
My book Bang is a 60,000 word reference guide that describes
exactly how to have sex with girls you like, starting from the
optimal mindset you need to bang a lot of women. Now you're free to
study other materials in your game journey, but I'm confident that
Bang is all you need to reach your maximum potential. Click below
to order my book today and remember that is comes with a
no-questions-asked money back guarantee...
http://www.bangfieldguide.com/newsletter/go/order
Also if you liked this newsletter, please forward it on to a friend. Thanks!
Roosh
Thursday, December 16, 2010
Having sex with girls outside of your place, Im STUCK! Logistics
Im having this issue.
When its time to close and she seems horny and have sex its usually not at the seduction location.
Than when I am thinking about taking her to a place like to enter the motel, she freaks out and gets major LMR.
I cant take her to my place cause Im temporaily sharing it with someone while school starts again for me to move out on my own.
Also I tried in the car but it isnt comfortable at all.
in the past I never got LMR like this but its predictable a girl would get freaked out when she enters a motel and starts feeling like a slut.
last girls didnt care about motel they were really horny and I just took them.
but Im now finding that a problem when I have made out and touched her sexually and she is turned on and it isnt at the seduction location.
She gets honry or throws sexualinnuendo at me and is horny and cant figure what to do .....and if we driving somewhere and I drive in to motel.
Its kindah funny but frustrating......
I'd like to ask any experienced guys out there who have had to deal with such problem.
once I move out , and get girls to my place would be smoother pickup.
Im encountering this issues cause in the past if I let it pass and leave it for a date, her attraction dissapates and i dont hear from girls...So I decided once its on and they get all sexual then I should go for the Fast seduction.
any insight would help thanks.-
PS: I'm probably not keeping her sexually aroused on the drive to the motel.
#2 (permalink) 12-01-2010, 09:54 AM
Jesse Charger
Forum Administrator
Join Date: May 2009
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The only perfect solution to this is to get your own place.
One solution: you pull her into your car and just finger her or do oral sex. And then the NEXT time you meet up with her, pull her to a cheap motel. She'll be cool with it by then. It does add extra steps.
Or just don't tell her where you're going, just say "Let's Go". When you get to the motel, tell her that you LIVE in the motel temporarily because you're moving just to get her inside the door. That's just BS to turn off her objections. She'll see once you get inside that you're not living there, but at least you're inside.
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I noiced doc holliday uses the bathrroom and I treid that and it doesnt work at times, most consistent is your place ala janka.
Adam lyons posted a video and he mentioned changin plans and watching a movie pull....
but only time I had work is when girl was already attracted...I remeber HB susan saradon FB, who told me she wanted to go somewhere with me provate, we did it in a hotel. also the black girl in DR , I picked her up due to safety and I dorve around abit and bought her beer we talk for 15 minutes and drove to motel and she fucked me.
so these scenarios are possible...just have to lead and pump her state.
LA Tripp pointed out :
Good. I know society would have you think escalation is creepy, but it's only creepy if you do it in a creepy way. Escalation is normal and life won't progress without it ;)
i think alot of sticking points in my head would clear out once I move the fuck out.
Yes, moving out will help a lot, this is true. However, you still have to take responsibility and personal power over your life. And that starts within your own head. Who leads your life? Who makes your decisions for what directions you will go? Who decides what you wear, what you watch, what you listen to, where you go, what you eat, who your friends are, what you will do with your life? The answer to all of those questions SHOULD be YOU.
Also, I know you said about logistics in closing doesnt matter. Which is true based on arrousing the girl and pulling back.
Nope, based on arrousing, spiking her BT. Pulling back is just to calibrate and raise the BT more.
I just fucking wonder I am going to have to experiment closing women to the motel , i might have to frame it as "an adventure we both want" and spiking her BT by usisng positive framing how spontaneous and adventurous we can both be.
Yes, it ALL depends on the frame which YOU set with the girl.
CJ says :
. Ask her “What’s on the agenda for later?”
This one needs some explaining. A lot of PUAs think this is about Logistics. It isn’t. In fact, Logistics aren’t nearly as important as everyone believes. Shocking? Not really
Do you think that’d change things a bit?
Logistics matter LESS and LESS the more interested and turned on she is… I used to let logistics derail me. Now, I hardly even pay attention.
Can they fuck you up? Sure. They used to fuck me up all the time. Then, I discovered “Drunk-n-Lonely Texting.”
Focus on getting her to really, really see you as a liberator of her sexual frustrations and SHE will handle the logistics for you.
The purpose of the question is to establish in her mind that you have probably sexual intent AND you are seeking a way to create an opportunity.
comments :
TheWolfHowls - pay attention. This is exactly how I feel about the whole logistic deal, as you know. Like I said before, if you keep thinking in this logistic frame of mind, you are most likely creating barriers that didn't exist in the first place.
As for the rest of the post, it's not that I really disagree with what he is saying, but I hate the way it is presented. But you all already knew that
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Its just to much stuff to remember, these logistics only cloud the mind with unnecessary do do!
What most guys dont realize is its really simple! There is no need to over complicate things, with step by step scenario guides..
Wow.. This post was a total head fuck.. I need a glass of water
When its time to close and she seems horny and have sex its usually not at the seduction location.
Than when I am thinking about taking her to a place like to enter the motel, she freaks out and gets major LMR.
I cant take her to my place cause Im temporaily sharing it with someone while school starts again for me to move out on my own.
Also I tried in the car but it isnt comfortable at all.
in the past I never got LMR like this but its predictable a girl would get freaked out when she enters a motel and starts feeling like a slut.
last girls didnt care about motel they were really horny and I just took them.
but Im now finding that a problem when I have made out and touched her sexually and she is turned on and it isnt at the seduction location.
She gets honry or throws sexualinnuendo at me and is horny and cant figure what to do .....and if we driving somewhere and I drive in to motel.
Its kindah funny but frustrating......
I'd like to ask any experienced guys out there who have had to deal with such problem.
once I move out , and get girls to my place would be smoother pickup.
Im encountering this issues cause in the past if I let it pass and leave it for a date, her attraction dissapates and i dont hear from girls...So I decided once its on and they get all sexual then I should go for the Fast seduction.
any insight would help thanks.-
PS: I'm probably not keeping her sexually aroused on the drive to the motel.
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The only perfect solution to this is to get your own place.
One solution: you pull her into your car and just finger her or do oral sex. And then the NEXT time you meet up with her, pull her to a cheap motel. She'll be cool with it by then. It does add extra steps.
Or just don't tell her where you're going, just say "Let's Go". When you get to the motel, tell her that you LIVE in the motel temporarily because you're moving just to get her inside the door. That's just BS to turn off her objections. She'll see once you get inside that you're not living there, but at least you're inside.
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I noiced doc holliday uses the bathrroom and I treid that and it doesnt work at times, most consistent is your place ala janka.
Adam lyons posted a video and he mentioned changin plans and watching a movie pull....
but only time I had work is when girl was already attracted...I remeber HB susan saradon FB, who told me she wanted to go somewhere with me provate, we did it in a hotel. also the black girl in DR , I picked her up due to safety and I dorve around abit and bought her beer we talk for 15 minutes and drove to motel and she fucked me.
so these scenarios are possible...just have to lead and pump her state.
LA Tripp pointed out :
Good. I know society would have you think escalation is creepy, but it's only creepy if you do it in a creepy way. Escalation is normal and life won't progress without it ;)
i think alot of sticking points in my head would clear out once I move the fuck out.
Yes, moving out will help a lot, this is true. However, you still have to take responsibility and personal power over your life. And that starts within your own head. Who leads your life? Who makes your decisions for what directions you will go? Who decides what you wear, what you watch, what you listen to, where you go, what you eat, who your friends are, what you will do with your life? The answer to all of those questions SHOULD be YOU.
Also, I know you said about logistics in closing doesnt matter. Which is true based on arrousing the girl and pulling back.
Nope, based on arrousing, spiking her BT. Pulling back is just to calibrate and raise the BT more.
I just fucking wonder I am going to have to experiment closing women to the motel , i might have to frame it as "an adventure we both want" and spiking her BT by usisng positive framing how spontaneous and adventurous we can both be.
Yes, it ALL depends on the frame which YOU set with the girl.
CJ says :
. Ask her “What’s on the agenda for later?”
This one needs some explaining. A lot of PUAs think this is about Logistics. It isn’t. In fact, Logistics aren’t nearly as important as everyone believes. Shocking? Not really
Do you think that’d change things a bit?
Logistics matter LESS and LESS the more interested and turned on she is… I used to let logistics derail me. Now, I hardly even pay attention.
Can they fuck you up? Sure. They used to fuck me up all the time. Then, I discovered “Drunk-n-Lonely Texting.”
Focus on getting her to really, really see you as a liberator of her sexual frustrations and SHE will handle the logistics for you.
The purpose of the question is to establish in her mind that you have probably sexual intent AND you are seeking a way to create an opportunity.
comments :
TheWolfHowls - pay attention. This is exactly how I feel about the whole logistic deal, as you know. Like I said before, if you keep thinking in this logistic frame of mind, you are most likely creating barriers that didn't exist in the first place.
As for the rest of the post, it's not that I really disagree with what he is saying, but I hate the way it is presented. But you all already knew that
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Its just to much stuff to remember, these logistics only cloud the mind with unnecessary do do!
What most guys dont realize is its really simple! There is no need to over complicate things, with step by step scenario guides..
Wow.. This post was a total head fuck.. I need a glass of water
Wednesday, September 1, 2010
how to calibrate sexual escalation on the girl
I think the tittle is abit misleading but in reality it has to do with your style of game.
I have friends and Ive started with learning and we still have different game,shows you that you have to be yourself to make game work. i know it sounds like shit but lets get back to topic.
I have closed different types of girls and until you have a setback or achallenge you wont realize how valuable it is to know how to go sexual.
there are great posts and books to show you this...
Id say you have to figure it out based on yours style of game, your plan to have her with her if its a date and what type fo girl she is, how her state is at that moment.
All what I just mentioned equal to success my friends.
to calibrate it is to know when an how to do it.
here is what tripp says:
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-Well, logistics aren't key, but sexual tension is. Logistics play a bigger role the lower her BT is.
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Im having this issue.
When its time to close and have sex when I am about to enter the motel, she freaks out and gets major LMR.
I cant take her to my place cause Im temporaily sharing it with someone while school starts again for me to move the fuck out on my own.
Also I tried in the car but it isnt comfortable at all.
in the past I never got LMR like this but its predictable a girl would get freaked out when she enters a motel and starts feeling like a slut.
last girls didnt care about motel they were really horny and I just took them.
but Im now finding that a problem when I have made out and touched her sexually and she is turned on and then we driving somewhere and I drive in to motel.
Its kindah funny but fucking frustrating......
I'd like to ask any experienced guys out there who have had to deal with such problem.
once I move the fuck out , and get girls to my place would be smoother pickup.
any insight would help thanks.-
PS:
I'm probably not keeping her sexually aroused on the drive to the motel.
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Subject: Re: CLOSING outside of your place, I have a problem Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:15 pm
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-Is it just this one girl that has given you this problem, or is it multiple girls?
You say last girls didn't care and you just took them.
Also, is it uncomfortable for YOU to take them in your truck? Or for them?
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Alpha: "Come here, now."
AFC: "Would you mind coming here please, if it's not too much trouble?"
You have one shot, and it's in the first 3 seconds.
Make her qualify herself to YOU.
Don't back down from the girl. CHALLENGE her!
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Subject: Re: CLOSING outside of your place, I have a problem Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:38 am
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L.A. Tripp wrote:
Is it just this one girl that has given you this problem, or is it multiple girls?
Only her . I think its ASD, I have some fault caus eI might have not calibrated the escalation by arousing her enough and after the long date I took her to motel and she was hesitant and talking nonsense how she takes a while to trust somoene to get intimate and seriosuly taking all into logic.
i think that when it came time for me to get off the car and get the room , gave her a chance for her ASD to hit turbo.- I have to see if the car pull could work with someother women. in the past it was easy to use plausible deniability to pull a girl to yourplace and in 20 minutes she was naked having sex. Now its like Logistics plus Momentum of sexual tension are KEY in any Pull.
You say last girls didn't care and you just took them.
before Game I do recall picking up a girl walking in a bad neighbourhood and getting her to my car and after 10 minutes or so of talking casually , no deep comfort just superficial stuff, no bt spiking either.. i suggest to go somewhere private and we went to a motel and she was horny about it....dropped her off and we never talked again...when I stopped by weeks later I saw her with a man and she saw my car and she smiled at me infront of him but nothing happened, I left it at that.
Also, is it uncomfortable for YOU to take them in your truck? Or for them?
well its kindah for me... I think i could get a BJ...I mean it could work, never tried it...it could escalate into then transitioning to motel after car.
sexual technique of whatever isnt really car possible, I think its because I was in dominican republic once and the girl I was with had her pants down and sucking my dick in a dark alley and the cops showed up.....anywyas I had to pay the cops money..only in a 3rd world country and the girl was pissed at me, I dont know dude. It be fucked up if that happend to me here in the US.
L.A. Tripp
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Subject: Re: CLOSING outside of your place, I have a problem Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:58 am
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-Well, logistics aren't key, but sexual tension is. Logistics play a bigger role the lower her BT is.
Since it's just this one girl, don't sweat it. Just friend zone her, hang out with her, see who she knows, etc.
The whole cop thing, lol, damn. Well, I've had a security guard catch me, but that's because he was seriously watching me, TRYING to catch me. But again, that's in your head and you're ALLOWING IT to fuck with your mind. So, once again, YOU have to exert control over that and stop letting it mess with you.
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http://tripp-author.weebly.com for my new book!
http://latripp.blogspot.com/
www.latripp.weebly.com
Alpha: "Come here, now."
AFC: "Would you mind coming here please, if it's not too much trouble?"
You have one shot, and it's in the first 3 seconds.
Make her qualify herself to YOU.
Don't back down from the girl. CHALLENGE her!
I have friends and Ive started with learning and we still have different game,shows you that you have to be yourself to make game work. i know it sounds like shit but lets get back to topic.
I have closed different types of girls and until you have a setback or achallenge you wont realize how valuable it is to know how to go sexual.
there are great posts and books to show you this...
Id say you have to figure it out based on yours style of game, your plan to have her with her if its a date and what type fo girl she is, how her state is at that moment.
All what I just mentioned equal to success my friends.
to calibrate it is to know when an how to do it.
here is what tripp says:
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-Well, logistics aren't key, but sexual tension is. Logistics play a bigger role the lower her BT is.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Im having this issue.
When its time to close and have sex when I am about to enter the motel, she freaks out and gets major LMR.
I cant take her to my place cause Im temporaily sharing it with someone while school starts again for me to move the fuck out on my own.
Also I tried in the car but it isnt comfortable at all.
in the past I never got LMR like this but its predictable a girl would get freaked out when she enters a motel and starts feeling like a slut.
last girls didnt care about motel they were really horny and I just took them.
but Im now finding that a problem when I have made out and touched her sexually and she is turned on and then we driving somewhere and I drive in to motel.
Its kindah funny but fucking frustrating......
I'd like to ask any experienced guys out there who have had to deal with such problem.
once I move the fuck out , and get girls to my place would be smoother pickup.
any insight would help thanks.-
PS:
I'm probably not keeping her sexually aroused on the drive to the motel.
L.A. Tripp
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Number of posts: 4531
Age: 37
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Points: 1442
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Subject: Re: CLOSING outside of your place, I have a problem Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:15 pm
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-Is it just this one girl that has given you this problem, or is it multiple girls?
You say last girls didn't care and you just took them.
Also, is it uncomfortable for YOU to take them in your truck? Or for them?
_________________
http://tripp-author.weebly.com for my new book!
http://latripp.blogspot.com/
www.latripp.weebly.com
Alpha: "Come here, now."
AFC: "Would you mind coming here please, if it's not too much trouble?"
You have one shot, and it's in the first 3 seconds.
Make her qualify herself to YOU.
Don't back down from the girl. CHALLENGE her!
sandros
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Age: 32
Location: miami
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Registration date: 2009-11-23
Subject: Re: CLOSING outside of your place, I have a problem Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:38 am
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L.A. Tripp wrote:
Is it just this one girl that has given you this problem, or is it multiple girls?
Only her . I think its ASD, I have some fault caus eI might have not calibrated the escalation by arousing her enough and after the long date I took her to motel and she was hesitant and talking nonsense how she takes a while to trust somoene to get intimate and seriosuly taking all into logic.
i think that when it came time for me to get off the car and get the room , gave her a chance for her ASD to hit turbo.- I have to see if the car pull could work with someother women. in the past it was easy to use plausible deniability to pull a girl to yourplace and in 20 minutes she was naked having sex. Now its like Logistics plus Momentum of sexual tension are KEY in any Pull.
You say last girls didn't care and you just took them.
before Game I do recall picking up a girl walking in a bad neighbourhood and getting her to my car and after 10 minutes or so of talking casually , no deep comfort just superficial stuff, no bt spiking either.. i suggest to go somewhere private and we went to a motel and she was horny about it....dropped her off and we never talked again...when I stopped by weeks later I saw her with a man and she saw my car and she smiled at me infront of him but nothing happened, I left it at that.
Also, is it uncomfortable for YOU to take them in your truck? Or for them?
well its kindah for me... I think i could get a BJ...I mean it could work, never tried it...it could escalate into then transitioning to motel after car.
sexual technique of whatever isnt really car possible, I think its because I was in dominican republic once and the girl I was with had her pants down and sucking my dick in a dark alley and the cops showed up.....anywyas I had to pay the cops money..only in a 3rd world country and the girl was pissed at me, I dont know dude. It be fucked up if that happend to me here in the US.
L.A. Tripp
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Number of posts: 4531
Age: 37
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Reputation: 12
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Subject: Re: CLOSING outside of your place, I have a problem Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:58 am
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-Well, logistics aren't key, but sexual tension is. Logistics play a bigger role the lower her BT is.
Since it's just this one girl, don't sweat it. Just friend zone her, hang out with her, see who she knows, etc.
The whole cop thing, lol, damn. Well, I've had a security guard catch me, but that's because he was seriously watching me, TRYING to catch me. But again, that's in your head and you're ALLOWING IT to fuck with your mind. So, once again, YOU have to exert control over that and stop letting it mess with you.
_________________
http://tripp-author.weebly.com for my new book!
http://latripp.blogspot.com/
www.latripp.weebly.com
Alpha: "Come here, now."
AFC: "Would you mind coming here please, if it's not too much trouble?"
You have one shot, and it's in the first 3 seconds.
Make her qualify herself to YOU.
Don't back down from the girl. CHALLENGE her!
Tuesday, May 11, 2010
Review of delivery of sarcasm = atraction, baiting for a posistive response
http://www.tvsquad.com/2010/05/11/don-cheadle-jimmy-kimmel-make-fun-of-matt-damon-video/
Don cheadle and jimmy kimmel make fun of Matt damon.
Absurd and improv , the delivery is solid non reactive.
More abusrd the more on subtle level you are joking.DElivery should be modeled.
I see myself doing this on a girl me and her friend talking about her, it would raise attraction. Definately a role play to use.
I noticed ABC - Always be closing.
I'd get IOI's and pace lead push forward, I d fall short of the phone number and not get it , I should definately go for closing .
Like innsales when someone calls to ask about a price and if you just give them an answer then it stails, you give the answer and transition to a magicians choice of double bind or eleict them to open themselves on how you transition. something favorable that lead into them getting interested and you getting them invested by your display of trust and clarity on you ebing to help them on what they want, from there you can use double binds and leading towards the sale or close.
You fabricate your questions based on what response you want.
You have to want it first to get them in state wanting it too.very subtle and not pushy.
Baiting them to want to meet up for an appointment.
using yes ladder.
I love topo's theory
"woman!"
guy is calibrated.
Topo is using emotiaonl investment and persuasion using stacks to frame and yes ladder to accept your beleif into their reality, verbally.
basically you hand them a magician's choice
Don cheadle and jimmy kimmel make fun of Matt damon.
Absurd and improv , the delivery is solid non reactive.
More abusrd the more on subtle level you are joking.DElivery should be modeled.
I see myself doing this on a girl me and her friend talking about her, it would raise attraction. Definately a role play to use.
I noticed ABC - Always be closing.
I'd get IOI's and pace lead push forward, I d fall short of the phone number and not get it , I should definately go for closing .
Like innsales when someone calls to ask about a price and if you just give them an answer then it stails, you give the answer and transition to a magicians choice of double bind or eleict them to open themselves on how you transition. something favorable that lead into them getting interested and you getting them invested by your display of trust and clarity on you ebing to help them on what they want, from there you can use double binds and leading towards the sale or close.
You fabricate your questions based on what response you want.
You have to want it first to get them in state wanting it too.very subtle and not pushy.
Baiting them to want to meet up for an appointment.
using yes ladder.
I love topo's theory
"woman!"
guy is calibrated.
Topo is using emotiaonl investment and persuasion using stacks to frame and yes ladder to accept your beleif into their reality, verbally.
basically you hand them a magician's choice
Sunday, May 2, 2010
Sandros observations- in10nse archives - pimp game ,sexual rapport , and end game
I remembered reading in10nse speed rapport, its kindah weird and too mechanical over explained but its golden...
I recall the audio with j mathews and first minutes of it was pretty solid.
I decided to look it once more....
I happened to look at the archives which is the Masf posts.
As I was reading that and the intro...all unedited and uncensored...
It was clear this guy has solid game and does similar in SS patterns and seduction.
he doesnt have a model for it and follows both SS and MM.
MM or M3 model is a logistical map for me and emotional guide of my game . how dynamic in the stages you must change her emotional responses to get momentum and her backwards rationalizing that she likes you.
Enough'
So why I beleive him?
Cause Swinggcats best friend
Swinggcat to me is the best darn malicious guy there is in terms of dating and seduction.
MAster of Push pull...
I related to his style.
Push pull are elements in closing and microlooping.
So I definately recommend anyone checking him out.
Swinggcatt recommends or mentions...I definately check it out.
What most impressed me as I breifly looked at his stuff was .....
at the time he read pimp game.....
In10nse worte a great book review and shared with everyone....he tried to internalize the concepts.....
I remembered I wanted to interview an actual pimp to model his beleifs with women.
not only can you do that by reading a book made by a pimp, in10nse get in to the book that he tries to share it with his peers.
the guy has a good heart and the drive. I like that alot and relate to him.
i think that affected his strategy of game.....in10nse awesomely worte a forbidden october man sequence which was simplified by JK Ellis even anchors.
in10nse does great job with combining SRT - sexual rapport modelling.
so he is master of comfort and closing---he combines powerful and psycological approach with NLP, persuasion, all combined.
not to be only read but to be used.
ofcourse he asks FRanco for adivce with relationships...
Nice! :)
PS : I remembered adrian wanting to comoone the 2 : SS and MM
in10nse GAME combined both.
***** Five stars must read, plus REAL WORLD SEDUCTION, PAUL JANKA, FRANCO,TD's Secret SOciety and BT SPIKING posts.Lovedrops' theory on social game.BAD BOY's Ebook.
I recall the audio with j mathews and first minutes of it was pretty solid.
I decided to look it once more....
I happened to look at the archives which is the Masf posts.
As I was reading that and the intro...all unedited and uncensored...
It was clear this guy has solid game and does similar in SS patterns and seduction.
he doesnt have a model for it and follows both SS and MM.
MM or M3 model is a logistical map for me and emotional guide of my game . how dynamic in the stages you must change her emotional responses to get momentum and her backwards rationalizing that she likes you.
Enough'
So why I beleive him?
Cause Swinggcats best friend
Swinggcat to me is the best darn malicious guy there is in terms of dating and seduction.
MAster of Push pull...
I related to his style.
Push pull are elements in closing and microlooping.
So I definately recommend anyone checking him out.
Swinggcatt recommends or mentions...I definately check it out.
What most impressed me as I breifly looked at his stuff was .....
at the time he read pimp game.....
In10nse worte a great book review and shared with everyone....he tried to internalize the concepts.....
I remembered I wanted to interview an actual pimp to model his beleifs with women.
not only can you do that by reading a book made by a pimp, in10nse get in to the book that he tries to share it with his peers.
the guy has a good heart and the drive. I like that alot and relate to him.
i think that affected his strategy of game.....in10nse awesomely worte a forbidden october man sequence which was simplified by JK Ellis even anchors.
in10nse does great job with combining SRT - sexual rapport modelling.
so he is master of comfort and closing---he combines powerful and psycological approach with NLP, persuasion, all combined.
not to be only read but to be used.
ofcourse he asks FRanco for adivce with relationships...
Nice! :)
PS : I remembered adrian wanting to comoone the 2 : SS and MM
in10nse GAME combined both.
***** Five stars must read, plus REAL WORLD SEDUCTION, PAUL JANKA, FRANCO,TD's Secret SOciety and BT SPIKING posts.Lovedrops' theory on social game.BAD BOY's Ebook.
Thursday, April 22, 2010
closing take you home frame routine pattern
I came up from the apocalypse opener and after comfort it can work I have to field test it.
Its a closing temperature gage to either move forward or not yet.
you insert strawberry routine
I shouldnt take you thome to mom, actually.....eye contact you shouldnt be thinking about going home with me....
I wonder what thoughts are running thruogh you mind right now for you to imagine esensually
what would happen .... ....(well do you want to come home with me?)
yes, cool I have a great set of cool CD's i have show you.briefly but ecause i have to get up early , I have to kick you out.
i get this but you get dessert DEAL ?
no, I have to tell you something, i have a late night cookie habit, theres this great ice cream I love to eat but i cant eat it all (in the cab?)
What kind of person are you????!!!!!
.if we share it will be half the calories
yeah i know, why did i even mention that :) dont get any ideas im not that easy.....
Its a closing temperature gage to either move forward or not yet.
you insert strawberry routine
I shouldnt take you thome to mom, actually.....eye contact you shouldnt be thinking about going home with me....
I wonder what thoughts are running thruogh you mind right now for you to imagine esensually
what would happen .... ....(well do you want to come home with me?)
yes, cool I have a great set of cool CD's i have show you.briefly but ecause i have to get up early , I have to kick you out.
i get this but you get dessert DEAL ?
no, I have to tell you something, i have a late night cookie habit, theres this great ice cream I love to eat but i cant eat it all (in the cab?)
What kind of person are you????!!!!!
.if we share it will be half the calories
yeah i know, why did i even mention that :) dont get any ideas im not that easy.....
entropy-solid game , CLOSING!, flake how to react,sticking point of LSE
I credit entropy for my success,
i love his LR's and I leanred from him.
I made a mistake of not writting down what rotuines I used , I have to review SNL and his LRs.
trusdt and comfort frame I have to perfect it.
I have other logistical sticking points with car and me driving thing and sexual secaltion.
how I close is pump BT and disqualify and get her invested in buying me ice cream....
once that I used to enjoy the view and other shit but her its harder.
Its kindah lik emission imporssible.
But "this isnt mission difficult, its mission impossible"
so , I have to ask someone. to review and reanalyze infield.
I know i can do it and If i push myself I can.
I noticed in the past I didnt pay attention on too much whether or not she did or didnt do or even flaking, in the past I was reactive adn when I got good , it shown non needy....and that really intreged girls.
so even flakes, I shouldnt putt to much empahsis on her flaking or not responding, definate sticking point I cathc my LSE trying to do , and there is a connection.
never react to her and be like a cool friend yet sexual.
Adam remebered how I had rapport with girls, I was calibrated due to rapport with girls, thought and ran comfort like a girl but ran SNL frames and cosmo routine and qualifyed hard after ...after cosmo routoine it was like a walk in the park and basically pacing and leading, social pressure and disqualification of plausible denialbiloity with escaltion...and INVESTING her into it later to time bridge and creating a smoke or art of distraction to distract and you act non needy not intersted and either tired or fun, to spike her BT.
for closing its entropy : spiking BT, ozzie transformation , swingcatt LR's.
essential of investing for a close is ADAM! :)
BE A MAN TAKE THE FIRST MOVE, dont care of outcome but TAKE INITIATIVE in smart way.
i love his LR's and I leanred from him.
I made a mistake of not writting down what rotuines I used , I have to review SNL and his LRs.
trusdt and comfort frame I have to perfect it.
I have other logistical sticking points with car and me driving thing and sexual secaltion.
how I close is pump BT and disqualify and get her invested in buying me ice cream....
once that I used to enjoy the view and other shit but her its harder.
Its kindah lik emission imporssible.
But "this isnt mission difficult, its mission impossible"
so , I have to ask someone. to review and reanalyze infield.
I know i can do it and If i push myself I can.
I noticed in the past I didnt pay attention on too much whether or not she did or didnt do or even flaking, in the past I was reactive adn when I got good , it shown non needy....and that really intreged girls.
so even flakes, I shouldnt putt to much empahsis on her flaking or not responding, definate sticking point I cathc my LSE trying to do , and there is a connection.
never react to her and be like a cool friend yet sexual.
Adam remebered how I had rapport with girls, I was calibrated due to rapport with girls, thought and ran comfort like a girl but ran SNL frames and cosmo routine and qualifyed hard after ...after cosmo routoine it was like a walk in the park and basically pacing and leading, social pressure and disqualification of plausible denialbiloity with escaltion...and INVESTING her into it later to time bridge and creating a smoke or art of distraction to distract and you act non needy not intersted and either tired or fun, to spike her BT.
for closing its entropy : spiking BT, ozzie transformation , swingcatt LR's.
essential of investing for a close is ADAM! :)
BE A MAN TAKE THE FIRST MOVE, dont care of outcome but TAKE INITIATIVE in smart way.
Monday, April 12, 2010
sexual escalation defined by sandros
Hey guys I wasnt going to share this since this is a private blog.
I spent alot of time to come up with solutions to my game.
I want to credit some people:
Sinn= the guy is a better coach than a person.very specific and realisitc.suggest to work with him if you are actually going out.SNL's stuff are GOLD exept where he goes direct sexual in set without proper logistics set up he also didnt talk on plausible deniability which I think is STANDARD PUA, CJ uses it on every time. franco talks about this mistake ion which Jon suggests using this infield which can backfire, I rather go with more solid game appraoch, not fool hardedely risking it soo much.
Entropy= he is a great coach but at times vague, like a natural.
Saffron= He tried to explain things to me which at that time I wasnt ready to listen or understand. thats how advanced he was.LRs and audio breakdown changed me.
vin di carlo= dating diablo plus first pages of his sexual tension are thigns I would have written about the subject.
CJ : His LR's are GOLD nuggets hidden, the subcomms and breakdown of them are the formula. his sexual framing in vibing does work.
ADAM Lyons; Adam is really good his ebook or dvd or anything written doesnt have sexual escation game he uses, he gets girl into them and he leads them in a non sexual way once he gets to seduction location he denies anything sexual as he escaltes arousal physical.he does kiss them at PU venue then he pulls back. he brings em home and denies sex just to get them to escalate on him.SNEAKY but it works.GREAT tEACHER but too abstract when he talks or explains.
Swingcatt: his LR are BEST, his book is best seduction book ever next to franco's.
MYSTERY isnt shit compared to him, 2.0 is really awesome.as I noticed how he qualifies em and gets her to chase him ....like saffron learn to do the same.
FRANCO: very analytical at times but the guy dominates all areas of seduction.his MINDSET superseeds within process of seduction.found him after I got good. his books are helpful. I could delete all ebooks and keep his and swinggcats material, entropys, eltopo, sinn, CJ and I would be better off.
he uses screening and controls asd. has a emotional intellligence of the pickup goes in detail to explain SUPER EASY to learn. He is my next go to guy to get awesonely good.
BRAD P aka casey 'rocker" = this guy is a tall thin white guy , nerdish. he dresses like a rockstar and found success teacing and learning more about seduction.
I learned more from his getting physcal and same night seductions CD sets.
I agree with his forbidden truth on reading too much pu is bad for you.
Ozzie (RSD) Transformations:
how his pu lines work to disarm ASD, when you are timebridgeing, he talks about next location as non sexual , "im going here and you cant stay im kicking you out.lol"
"i have to get early tomorrow, dont get any ideas"
Doc holiday: his groundhog day pdf w his LRs in LR book from Sinn , uses deep comfort.I mixed in after wine place, adams line "I get the check and you get dessert"
be congruent like swinggcatt stop at grocery store beofre place and get her to buy it!!!! make her invest ala ADAM LYONS, then shes invested she cant back off....its social pressure and awkward so she has to COMPLY :)
JEFFY: Jeffy when he talks in his vids about his adventures with that girl and how he fights a guy , he pumps her buuying temperature to get her to comply, he gets her emoitonally up before asking her to comply, in a high state as franco mentions women change their mind all the time, so when you pump her buying temperature when its tim e to close you can get her compliance easier, it distracts her from sexual asd or
being logical..... when you are talking try to be funny more you make her laugh and mixed in emoitons, the more she will like being with you, lively.
He talks about push pull too.
Im trying to remmember what I did:
push- pull subtle qualifier ,
magicians choice to calibrate any answer from her,
reverse frames get her to want it more to chase me
RJ's object before she does,
false disqualify with a social pressure ala adam lyons,
underlying frame was to not talk about the obvious or matrix that we were going to have sex.
I talked the opposite while I move forward by arousing her verbally w push pull and physical touching and pulling back by saying "its too much for me " "what are you doing to me, do you have this effect on guys" "stop being cool you are making me like you" "why are you turning me hot" .
mehow's pdf microllop theroy does come in effect in after Comfort phase to get her hooked
Lee Jenkins female orgasm book:
I recently read his book and its really good, he recommends talk ing or cuddling with the girl after sex for 15 minutes, I dont debreif eventhough at frst I did but debreif is more to acceralate what you did right and learn.
I think his advice prevents buyers remorse which I got from Tara after we had hardcore sex.
Nina hartley's how to make love to a woman: first minutes of the dvd she talks about how women are judge sexually, perfect for sexual framing ala CJ. you internalize this as you say it to people and it becomes your belief.
topos structure of kung fupenis is push pull compliance push pull compliance.
just to move forward to your goal.
his redstack stuff has great stories of rapport w sexual framing it undetactable and very ninjaesque.
his qualifiers and negs are really good ive implemented them into my game.
also his voice is deep as he uses levels of it to create emphasis like a hynpitoc likeness.
marie interview is good for an idea how girls want to feel."it just happend" "meant ot be" to withdrawl any responsibility for escalation or slutiness.
so far this is what i can write about and can recall at this point.
LA Tripp helped me with getting back my mojo to seduction.
he explains it diferently and counts on calibration and disqualifies.
I kindah figured out saffrons game.lol
i still ahve to figure out the "giver taker frame" "let make it memeorable special frame" his own SNL frames that work perfect for non local girls.
I did a phone consult for nothern nights on sexual escalation in detail, since at that time the lovesystems guys didnt talk about it.I gave him a masterclass on it, I will to to look for the audio of it.
I forgot KINO is important, i just became more subbtle at kino so dont talk about it ,eurpoean women not need too much kino...ALWAYS CALIBRATE KINO. I follow adams ladder upfornt with bradp sexual arrousal upfornt to creat attraction.
Like Tim said you want to spike emotions all the time, especially in closing mixed in with comedy.
always refram as posistive and no big deal, move forward and ignore anything negative thinking wihtin the pickup, you contrl her and she is there for you to take over the responsibility of escalation to not look as a slut. you keep moving forward subtle NOT PUSHY.EVER!!!!!!
calibrate shit test in comfort from in attraction. reframe always , no cocky funny in comfort.
I spent alot of time to come up with solutions to my game.
I want to credit some people:
Sinn= the guy is a better coach than a person.very specific and realisitc.suggest to work with him if you are actually going out.SNL's stuff are GOLD exept where he goes direct sexual in set without proper logistics set up he also didnt talk on plausible deniability which I think is STANDARD PUA, CJ uses it on every time. franco talks about this mistake ion which Jon suggests using this infield which can backfire, I rather go with more solid game appraoch, not fool hardedely risking it soo much.
Entropy= he is a great coach but at times vague, like a natural.
Saffron= He tried to explain things to me which at that time I wasnt ready to listen or understand. thats how advanced he was.LRs and audio breakdown changed me.
vin di carlo= dating diablo plus first pages of his sexual tension are thigns I would have written about the subject.
CJ : His LR's are GOLD nuggets hidden, the subcomms and breakdown of them are the formula. his sexual framing in vibing does work.
ADAM Lyons; Adam is really good his ebook or dvd or anything written doesnt have sexual escation game he uses, he gets girl into them and he leads them in a non sexual way once he gets to seduction location he denies anything sexual as he escaltes arousal physical.he does kiss them at PU venue then he pulls back. he brings em home and denies sex just to get them to escalate on him.SNEAKY but it works.GREAT tEACHER but too abstract when he talks or explains.
Swingcatt: his LR are BEST, his book is best seduction book ever next to franco's.
MYSTERY isnt shit compared to him, 2.0 is really awesome.as I noticed how he qualifies em and gets her to chase him ....like saffron learn to do the same.
FRANCO: very analytical at times but the guy dominates all areas of seduction.his MINDSET superseeds within process of seduction.found him after I got good. his books are helpful. I could delete all ebooks and keep his and swinggcats material, entropys, eltopo, sinn, CJ and I would be better off.
he uses screening and controls asd. has a emotional intellligence of the pickup goes in detail to explain SUPER EASY to learn. He is my next go to guy to get awesonely good.
BRAD P aka casey 'rocker" = this guy is a tall thin white guy , nerdish. he dresses like a rockstar and found success teacing and learning more about seduction.
I learned more from his getting physcal and same night seductions CD sets.
I agree with his forbidden truth on reading too much pu is bad for you.
Ozzie (RSD) Transformations:
how his pu lines work to disarm ASD, when you are timebridgeing, he talks about next location as non sexual , "im going here and you cant stay im kicking you out.lol"
"i have to get early tomorrow, dont get any ideas"
Doc holiday: his groundhog day pdf w his LRs in LR book from Sinn , uses deep comfort.I mixed in after wine place, adams line "I get the check and you get dessert"
be congruent like swinggcatt stop at grocery store beofre place and get her to buy it!!!! make her invest ala ADAM LYONS, then shes invested she cant back off....its social pressure and awkward so she has to COMPLY :)
JEFFY: Jeffy when he talks in his vids about his adventures with that girl and how he fights a guy , he pumps her buuying temperature to get her to comply, he gets her emoitonally up before asking her to comply, in a high state as franco mentions women change their mind all the time, so when you pump her buying temperature when its tim e to close you can get her compliance easier, it distracts her from sexual asd or
being logical..... when you are talking try to be funny more you make her laugh and mixed in emoitons, the more she will like being with you, lively.
He talks about push pull too.
Im trying to remmember what I did:
push- pull subtle qualifier ,
magicians choice to calibrate any answer from her,
reverse frames get her to want it more to chase me
RJ's object before she does,
false disqualify with a social pressure ala adam lyons,
underlying frame was to not talk about the obvious or matrix that we were going to have sex.
I talked the opposite while I move forward by arousing her verbally w push pull and physical touching and pulling back by saying "its too much for me " "what are you doing to me, do you have this effect on guys" "stop being cool you are making me like you" "why are you turning me hot" .
mehow's pdf microllop theroy does come in effect in after Comfort phase to get her hooked
Lee Jenkins female orgasm book:
I recently read his book and its really good, he recommends talk ing or cuddling with the girl after sex for 15 minutes, I dont debreif eventhough at frst I did but debreif is more to acceralate what you did right and learn.
I think his advice prevents buyers remorse which I got from Tara after we had hardcore sex.
Nina hartley's how to make love to a woman: first minutes of the dvd she talks about how women are judge sexually, perfect for sexual framing ala CJ. you internalize this as you say it to people and it becomes your belief.
topos structure of kung fupenis is push pull compliance push pull compliance.
just to move forward to your goal.
his redstack stuff has great stories of rapport w sexual framing it undetactable and very ninjaesque.
his qualifiers and negs are really good ive implemented them into my game.
also his voice is deep as he uses levels of it to create emphasis like a hynpitoc likeness.
marie interview is good for an idea how girls want to feel."it just happend" "meant ot be" to withdrawl any responsibility for escalation or slutiness.
so far this is what i can write about and can recall at this point.
LA Tripp helped me with getting back my mojo to seduction.
he explains it diferently and counts on calibration and disqualifies.
I kindah figured out saffrons game.lol
i still ahve to figure out the "giver taker frame" "let make it memeorable special frame" his own SNL frames that work perfect for non local girls.
I did a phone consult for nothern nights on sexual escalation in detail, since at that time the lovesystems guys didnt talk about it.I gave him a masterclass on it, I will to to look for the audio of it.
I forgot KINO is important, i just became more subbtle at kino so dont talk about it ,eurpoean women not need too much kino...ALWAYS CALIBRATE KINO. I follow adams ladder upfornt with bradp sexual arrousal upfornt to creat attraction.
Like Tim said you want to spike emotions all the time, especially in closing mixed in with comedy.
always refram as posistive and no big deal, move forward and ignore anything negative thinking wihtin the pickup, you contrl her and she is there for you to take over the responsibility of escalation to not look as a slut. you keep moving forward subtle NOT PUSHY.EVER!!!!!!
calibrate shit test in comfort from in attraction. reframe always , no cocky funny in comfort.
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