BISHOP SS Student student and his history

Originally Posted by marsacko
lol..only read the beginning..dude...after the "shut the fuck up with the sorry" i would have quit the interview...or punched im in the face without saying sorry afterwards...is this somekind of NLP guru?



He started out as a Speed SuckDogShit student around the late 1990's who would post detailed lay reports. He had a book and CD product called "Bishop's Journal" which was easier to understand and use than Ross' shit.
Then in 2001 or so he went to jail for breaking into his ex-girlfriend's house.
In 2004 he came back on the scene with an inner game product called "Unleashing the phoenix" and a seduction book called "Fire of Seduction."

To my knowledge, he is one of the few PUAs to have no complaints against him regarding refunds or customer service.

I don't know what he's doing these days. He seemed like a pretty cool guy and had some useful and realistic information, IMHO.



I quote Bishop's response on Thundercat's Lair blog in 2005:

"I had every single name and address of those who ordered from me...so I asked Ross to have these alleged people contact me and when I verified they indeed ordered from me, they'd get their money back. That was in 2001 and I have yet to hear from any such customer thatdidn't get their book.

Think, people! Ross is a paralegal...and he loves to file suits...yet in the nearly four years since my alleged fraud, there has been not ONE SINGLE SUIT brought against me for this???
Several of his students are allegedly ripped off, yet he doesn't help them with how to file suit???...Not a single one???...Not a single student comes to my home to confront me??? Why not? Ross knew where I lived, why didn't he send the whole lot of them to my doorstep??? It's because he's lying and he knows it!

I still have all the information of those who purchased the book from me...if anyone reading this was among those who never received their book...contact me."

It does seem suspious that no charges or lawsuits were ever filed. And does it really sound like Ross to simply sever ties with Bishop, instead of helping these guys who were ripped off get justice?

I think this whole shitstorm had to do with the fact that just before all of that, Bishop and Yates Canipe (Ross' business partner then) got into it and Bishop pulled his book from their catalog, and started his own online business.

There's no denying Bishop broke into his ex girlfriend's house, which does seem mental, but this claim by Ross smells funny.



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And unlike most of these PUAs who have a bunch of pics with hot women they might not even know, Bishop has a bunch of pics with this playboy model whos name I found out is Sara Stokes, and you can tell they were at different places together.













Compare the woman in those pics with these, and tell me this isn't the same woman!




I know this doesn't prove he was fucking her. Still, he didn't have a TV show, he wasn't mentioned in The Game, he wasn't a millionaire, she's obviously not just some escort or hooker he hired, so how would he be able to get a Playboy model to hang out with him so much if he wasn't good at pick-up?

I know I seem like I'm verbally sucking his dick. I just think of all the fucking PUAs out there, he seems to be the only one who has babes like Sara with him at multiple events (not just lame ass posed pics with some random chicks) and I have found nothing online about anyone being ripped off or feeling scammed by him.

Ok, enough of this shit. Let's go kill something and celebrate with a group howling.

week in sandros life and thoughts nlp comfort , innergame experiment and rants!

Hey guys,

Ive been reading in my spare time.

I looked backed on what things I did to get stupidly crazy results without really thinking what I was doing.

It had to do alot with Swinggcatt's Beliefs section on his CD set.

Beliefs are so important that once ingrained in your brain, all the bodylanguage and subtl stuff comes off natural and congruent.

Like I said before , Congruence in being an attractive guy is part of the attraction switch. Its powerful that you wont even notice shit tests anymore or wont get them in inital stages once you get attraction.

I had that minor relapse of AFC'ish or better said Low self esteem. weight, lifestyle, and unworthiness due to not living how I want, obstacles presented in terms of school which keep me MENTALLY away from reaching my goals..

Like in persuasion books Ive been reading, sometimes to get what you want requieres sacrifice. Like in my training and excersize, I slacked off a bit and it cost me. Im maintaining focus to reach my goal and build passive value.

dealing with my parents is also one of em. A-ROCK!, I remember you gave me awesome advice to get your objective to play a role and play along. Im learning that and keeping my inner game self unaffected and just keeping my eyes set on my goals and whats important to me in my LIFE.

if you guys can input on this , that would be awesome.


NLP STUFF, SS w comfort game: proper way to use and learn them.

As I realized some things of my game coming back, I can really hit nail in a date.My humor and self esteem and vibing is rolling.
Its weird how I after a rejection , is like a spike of rush instead of feeling down....like a challenge or gets me going...is it weird? :)

Mehow wrote in his book on comfort and NLP.
"First know the structure and after success , then integrate advanced accelarators"

I think this is true.

I was reading an old old old pdf, from a old old old student of Ross Jeffries of Speed Seduction.He was his TOP student.

Bishop.

I dont know if you guys have looked into it, Im actually trying to get some of his pdf and material stuff through torrent sites.
but Its been tough.

He actually goes over his successes in written form and how he used Speed Seduction within his game to seduce women.

to me SS, is sugar coating on confort game. and its obvious that in reading this guys game , its like 20% of SS, and he uncoinciously does the rest.

really intersting, if you guys know about him or can get in his torrent of material , hook it up :)

Ross doesnt explain how to use it, he focus on what its composed off and gives a few examples.

Secret is knowing or calibrating when to use it and how modify it to use to relate w the girl to work.

its basically a stck of patterns that comes from her keywords and anchoring positive feelings to you.

in female psycology she will say "I dont know but when Im around him , I feel excited , I cant figure out why I kindah like him"


SANDROSpua Inner game experiment

Ive understood a bit on attraction switches, beliefs and now Im trying to keep my beliefs consistent.

I have an issue, I can feel good today and I can feel apathetic tomorow, my comfort game mimics the girls at deep levels sometimes , to build deep rapport so I tend to pickup on their bad habits.So Im minimizing deep rapport mindgames I use.

but Ive listend to other affirmations CD and hypnotics CD's.

the problem is that when I normally think or talk to myself, I tend to hear my own voice.... NOT those other people.

So I decided to make my own CD, throwing a set of affirmations and stacking it progressively with a hypnotic voice and different levels of voice tone . So when I talk about ALPHA or I increase my voice, and when I talk about feeling comfortable in challengin situations I say it in a relaxed tone of voice.

Im going to make it as generalized and not sorely focused on seduction but part of it will.

I think it can keep me motivated and make it a habit to think that way so that I can act subconciously.... anywyas its like talking to myself since its my own voice, body and mind will reckognize it as Im AFFIRMING IT.

the law of "ACT as IF " will take in effect.

So I got to go bros,

I havent heard from bathroom pull girl , I trying to figure out what I messed up. differentiating SNL game opporutnity VS D2's

sometimes if you let her emotions wither away and she forgets you, she will lose attraction. thats why In part I did SNL but most of my success where D2's and the girls did all the work to meet up. when I persistet to meet up things would stale or come on too try hard or too sexually strong. sometimes thats good thing , game isnt 100% acurate and all girls arent the same in sexual comfort.

Im going to look into it and work on it.


talk laters,


-S