Showing posts with label awaken. Show all posts
Showing posts with label awaken. Show all posts

Tuesday, September 21, 2010

Opening in New York daytime conversations

Opening Conversations with Women in New York City During the Day-daygame calibration cheat sheet
I want to acknowledge John “Awaken”Keegan for being my mentor in approaching and meeting women in the daytime. Also importantly Paul Janka for his undivided support and sharing his experiences with me in person. “Doc Holliday” who I respect greatly for helping me along the way with daytime expertise and showing me what I truly want for myself ,is the most important thing.
I really don’t follow or judge by what popularity says but by results and experience to grasp the knowledge of meeting women and changing your life, Thank You.
That being said,I am your friend Sandros, just left new york city.
Some people will say this is the easiest place to get laid and some people would say that the bitchiest women live here.
I began to notice on this trip how different from many places in the US. I live now in Miami and opening conversations can be easy or can be challenging, I think everyone can relate to that.
New York, wherever you are people are all over the place ,all types people from everywhere in the world with different cultures..etc
If you lived here in New York we see that each person is a world of itself, they are to themselves even when you enter a subway , you see that everybody is into themselves and nobody looks at anyone or has random conversations with a stranger .It is mostly considered rude and abruptive behavior if you attempt to do the opposite.From a New Yorker point of view , this is what is socially acceptable in that scenario according to the mindset of everyday people dealing with stress and emotions of living in the city.
So you see, when you open a girl in New York, if she's a local,student, a model or someone who lives there. They are programmed to act this way. If she’s from out of town spending a weekend , anything goes and this theory does not apply to them.E ven though Paul Janka recommends not going after out of towners in the day*. It can be done but the phone number exchange or the instant date then becomes a problem of complexity in logistics. At night it is very different.
New York girls unless they are in a certain store or environment could be receptive to a normal conversation (with an indirect opener as known in community stereotype), but it when it comes to street game where everywhere and anywhere counts, you should bear in mind what I say.
It isn't a shit test but it is a reaction of safety.
Sometimes direct can be too much for the inexperienced ,wrongly doing so with too much intent can creep her off and she may feel cornered. Avoid that.
You basically have to make yourself open to be social and accepting to transition into a normal conversation to make her feel safe also known as mirroring rapport. Of course there are exceptions to approach invitation. I hope this can help you if you decide to stop by New York.


-Sandros

Thursday, March 19, 2009

FR; a week of 30 day challenge... tired as fuck

some dude said :

Recomended to every begginer together with Magic Bullets and Routine Book + something about learning process like Sinn's Game Acceleration Doctrine and Brad P Forbidden Truth and you will be rockin' in one year.

Ive been going out and didnt have internet and sarged tonight I was super tired and have to meet up with an attorney early so didnt go out.

Im doing the RSD 30 day challenge

FR: straight days

had fun but money is issue,practiced and momentum is so key girls want to meet in the moment no d2's...

go LMR and lost it so I reviewing damage control .

anyways , gain some lose some....

I wrote up 2 times and lost my internet connection so they were deleted....

Im sad to see Doc leave ...

st patty was beautiful packed with orange hair girls ...

nice!


Im not about it, yes its a skill not want anything but i know one has to lead...
plus I get AMOGed alot..

" HEy what are you doing ? "

so the 30 day challenge is tiring and last night didnt go out cause I was with my close friend who is leaving soon.my best friend. natural


so I got to review and go back ....

I put up awaken's site... as I mentioned before he is day game KING!

He is super good but I like the concept of SNL's and momenum at night game as well.

He helped me alot .. I mean alot I couldnt approach shit on street.

Other than retired Doc , I cant see anyone coming close to Awaken...

check him out and his cool audio...

His site is on the right side bar of this blog.....

Im out!

Wednesday, February 11, 2009

Day Game review infield in nyc - Direct vs Indirect

Hey I like doing daygame alot I get talkative I walk use bodylanguage to know what opener to use ...

First when I started I go out and kick myself for not appraoching and take it hard..

Im very analytical but when infield I just go for it,then it comes to me...

I learned from Doc Holliday early in this before he retired to go direct ....

I had the chance of meeting this guy who goes by AWAKEN ,
he is here in nyc....
His style is more different and somethings I havent had the guts to do he does and gets away with it ...kind of wygant- janka style but more touching. He is SICK that he does subway PU's that I almost piss in my pants when he had a british woman kept moving the convo therefore it was like she was gaming him....shit like that is what makes nyc fabulous.

I started with indirect in daygame got alot of numbers alot of flakes and I use it when they are moving targets or they are near me and I just aks them based on situational...

It depends street,supermarket,etc... you have to think on your feet and sometimes it doesnt go anywhere...

that's the down side

Direct is like Doc describes better but not alot of women react to it.....

Im not sure if its low sexual self esteem when you hit direct on a 6 or 7 HB....
I hit one that from the back was blonde big boobs I went direct and did eyecontact with a light smile
(Ala Saffron, that fucker lol)

She didnt know what the fuck to do I carried the convo and was sweedish but said she was in a hurry and walked away...no number close .

anyways I dont overthink infield so I opened a another one when I saw pizza for a buck frozen section and she was near .

I asked her if they were good she said she didnt know

I told her they look like there good and that accent from jesrsey she said upstate , I said cool :)

Im in residency here so Im not to familiar with the area she asked me where and if I was a nurse
I said "you silly I should hit you with this pizza upside your head goofball"
(playfuly delivered she laughed)

Her: "aha Im taking my lawyer test ,,,"

we kept talking and she walked away....

I re entered and was comfortable and friendly and did the mehow reverse number close since it was ninjaesque....

She said I was funny and I shoould have said that she liked it but I said that you you are fun too...

ALWAYSS GIVE VALUE and REWARD HER FOR COMPLYING

then she said she had a BF I said "thats cool we are just socializing gettin to know each other :)"

she was very attractive..


OK you read this and you will see the pros and cons based on infield you decide what to use.

I use indirect for warmups after my 3rd set I go Direct cause Im in talkative state and it flows easier after the energy power of delivery of DIRECT it becomes a regular convo but we both know its cause Im attracted to her.....

The problem with daygame is TIME CONSTRAINT! I couldnt pull out the nlp "poem of glory"
ala valentines day...LOL!

sandro

Tuesday, February 10, 2009

AHA! Missed 2 SNL's chances but work on sticking points

I was in Philly , got texted by Northern Nights he is cool cat with alot of knowledge in business and game..dude has a sick identity in nyc and is always surrounded with models and naked models LOL!

When I looked over CJ's stuff I found sticking point analysis, I didnt get it but now going for the close seeing a consistent mistake of trying too hard to close...

My state was pumped and was up to go to phillly for a conference, I was talkative and warmed up....

when we got to philly I opene a woman there standing,

I hardy think of openers anymore cause

WHY OVERTHINK IT IF YOU WILL THROW IT AWAY!

I have an intuition now what to say based on going out and being talkative state....
plus if you overthink you will get stuck and not appraoch...same thing with opener.

So thats solved whether daygame or nightgame it just needs to hook and start something going ... SIMPLE!

In that morning, I got number closed by her and maybe I wont see her again who knows she was going out of town and I was going into town...ok.

So I was starting my day and usually it takes me 3 approaches to get in state, I go indirect genuinely then transition with usual game no interest whatsover....

after that Its easy to go direct but thats for another post.....

IM A WARM UP TYPE OF GUY

(check my dennis rodman warm up game when theres period of not going out and to get started in right mindframe, its cheating.)

So I couldnt close and lost 2 chances :

1- Didnt re-open on time and her BT was up another guy wihtout game and who didnt close her challenged her for a shot in the bar and he isolated her but didnt escalate just by her complying to isolate with him and using the excuse of the shot fter her BT was up was an easy and slick close....
when this happens and I see this, I get upset at myself cause I had this happen to me in Boston and the girl was all over me and some chode made out with her...entropy was telling me HEY GO RE OPEN and I didnt, I paid a price....

Next day she showed up and they were talking a bit but she of showed disinterest in him.
HAHA... I could have closed but here's my next lesson.

I was time constraint andI should have re opened with a question where to go out and build comfort and attraction with future projections then take her... spike her BT and escalate.
DUDE she was ready to go boy she just need more comfort and escalation...


2-there was another one I saw gaming a chode, she was qualifying herself and was doing over the top IOI's her game is super tight..he still didnt make a move nor was aware of wat she was doing...NEVER HELP A CHODE! It was pianfiul to watch andits my falu to be in specttor mode but I learn how behavior works when woman act like hunters and some are shy.....

I laughed and she noticed I knew what she was doing...she tried to number close him and he didnt make a move.CHODE!!!!

anyways... She was horny as hell since she was attracted to the guy, and her BT was up and she kept talking about hooking up and shit so I saw her in the hotel and she was with friends..so I taked to her exchanged numbers and she went up to watch "the bachelor"

ok, I text her 30 minutes later with "hey what are you up to now? " which is against community advice....

She responded: "Im in my room watching the bachelor"

I said:" Lets watch a movie after : ) "

she said: "Im, in my pj s already"

I said: " haha...(her name) in pjs...that I have to see " little ambiguity

she said : "well sometother time"

I said:"when is it gonna happen?.....u know what I mean"


I KIND OF FUCKED UP HERE BUT I RAN THE RISK VS TEXT THREAD TO NOWHERE

she said: "Oh I m going to go to sleep, sorry"

I said:"OK, anyways? we will be discrete"

I threw this out there cause I didnt have time to build comfort with frames and threw this out as damage control and break the sexual tension since she wasnt complying.... its common sense to step back cause if I dont it will seen too pushy...
I broke it like its not a big deal and that its mixed understanding w ambuguity...

She was tipsy and I was tipsy.....haha!
its the Jack Nicholson hotel game Paul Janka mentioned it to me LOL!!!!
then AWAKEN my day game wing reminded me that ....

JACK is famous and that Im not....... LMAO

then he said :

"You should have run comfort stupid, why are you soo fucking horny motherfucker !"






I should have taken more time to build comfort and attraction.

comfort for compliance w frames qualification and then build attraction in this case...
but hey it was a trip and I learned to be more subtle...

BE MORE SUBTLE that you intend to have sex with her....plausible deniability

conceal your intentions..... but I learned that I caould have done different and given anohter situation i can do better and review game plan....

YAY! PROGRESSS!!!!


ALWAYS BE CLOSING BUT DONT CLOSE TOO FAST OR TOO SOON BE AWARE OF HER EMOTIONAL LEVEL !


peac out--------------->