so tripp emailed me this and read it this morning:
All women have that tendency of acting like a 13 yr old at times. But then again, men have that tendency as well. But again, this is why it's absolutely critical that you dig down deep within yourself and find who you are, find your own worth. This is why I beat that issue so much.
The more your secure in your own skin, the less you have to tell yourself how valuable you are . . .
then I listened to Swinggcat's beliefs and badboy's Attraction and Adam Lyons Qualification.
then it came to me that all I have to do is elicit her investing in me by proving herself and she will backwards rationalize as her wanting to work hard and invest in me emotional investment.
wow
yesterday was gary's how to be a player last cd3 great stuff.
and anger got to me last night.
so I had to take action.
first I did that and thought abit selfish about myself being prize loving myself sinceI took care of neediness last night.
so I get in car listened to flavor in the ear remix and Im feeling it sick and email my best friends I get positive responses and my state is up and now Im getting started I then get dressed and put on my shades and I look like clooney in oceans eleven.
then my swagger came the walk Saffron taought us shoulders one, and the whole saturday night spderman walk from rob brinded made me do it
the whole "you will feel lucky to be with me" vibe came to me again.
so I found out im in state
so my whole seduction means comes back.
play from a position of strength...- swinggcat gary brodsky reminds me again in my head.
so now my walk and my talk tells me Im the shit.
I text zey hey dork and she responds ,Im like oh shite she is receptive to that. wow cool.
then I go to the bank and get IOIs from afar, or soft signs from a banker woman constantly looking at me, she is a cougar on the prey.
anywyas I came up that its my state i project. being cool as fuck being the shit. voice the walk bodylanguage.
I think the bust your balls and soft signs were crucial to this plus affirmations of swinggcatt and badboy "youd be lucky to be with me" the subcommunication vibe of my swagger.
then I started to speak subcommunication
instaed of "I miss you " or "I like you"
subcommunication is to : make them laugh, make them feel good spike BT with humor. without directly conveying verbally you like them, women speak that language and if you talk to them in that language then you get rapport fast and its like you are secret society in her mind.
NOTE: this isnt indirect ,its talking through subcommunication.
this is awareness of what franco calls soft signs reading soft signs and applying this in your seduction makes it more powerful, non verbally.
this is cornerstone of eliciting IOIs by your projection and you knwing how to talk to women, through their gut or subcommunication not through logic normal vague insecrue non preselected way of talking with women.
its tricky
its RAKE type game
russel brand and this can get her chasing .
I like this thing I use when I get shit test to prove myself
"I dont explicate I demonstrate"
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Wednesday, February 23, 2011
Letter to Trip to myself and Stop the LSE attitude and get back into being REAL with Myself
Hey man
I'm be honest that ive been thinking the whole day.
and yes i feel like ive denigrated myself w begging w gloria and her lse made me feel like lse.its like energy traps you energy vampires.
My fb from nyc is super needy too.and in the past id never paid attention. today ukrainian girl seemed uneedy and abit grouchy cause she has the flu and im far away and wtf i mean i cant be fucking needy.when i feel needy i get upset and give love to my chihuahua or im super cool w friends.
But when i was super good i was uneedy and game was easier prizing being prize reversal role of her chasing me was smoother.here im heavyily texting not getting anywhere no meet ups bunch of mindgames more i try to get her to invest in my position is like overcompensating overconfident. so im upset that yeah i have to be the real me the cool me and screen girls better.
Zey called me up saying she was near my work and i was somewhere else she left a voicemail.later i texted her and she was like i went by your work today.lol. and as i responded she soesnt respond back to texts and is non compliant. its so stupid cause i know i dont have to deal with shit like this if my personal life is straight.my career my school and gym and nutrition.mange my time wisely. think about me first and stop being needy.its fucking upsetting that im strugling to close this older woman who is hot but all act the same pattern of 13yr olds. i want to close and i get her not responding my texts or not wanting to meet up.at this point im like fuck this shit.im fucking goodlooking i can game good if i pushed harder in daygame sets. go to gym. focus on me rather than my family.cause dude i get nightmares on dying and how old we are and how life is short man.like even healthiest man in world died of a heart attack.im be 33 and in 40 i cant be cold appraoching man.
I cant going to clubs or shit like that. inever had youth.ive always been true to my career and school and family behave and act and marry who they wanted me to. ofcourse i have to be passive aggressive with them cause i live here but give little not all my time.when im about to die in accident or old age or whenever i dont want to blame my parents or make excuses. i want to say thank you God for everything and thats it...
I'm be honest that ive been thinking the whole day.
and yes i feel like ive denigrated myself w begging w gloria and her lse made me feel like lse.its like energy traps you energy vampires.
My fb from nyc is super needy too.and in the past id never paid attention. today ukrainian girl seemed uneedy and abit grouchy cause she has the flu and im far away and wtf i mean i cant be fucking needy.when i feel needy i get upset and give love to my chihuahua or im super cool w friends.
But when i was super good i was uneedy and game was easier prizing being prize reversal role of her chasing me was smoother.here im heavyily texting not getting anywhere no meet ups bunch of mindgames more i try to get her to invest in my position is like overcompensating overconfident. so im upset that yeah i have to be the real me the cool me and screen girls better.
Zey called me up saying she was near my work and i was somewhere else she left a voicemail.later i texted her and she was like i went by your work today.lol. and as i responded she soesnt respond back to texts and is non compliant. its so stupid cause i know i dont have to deal with shit like this if my personal life is straight.my career my school and gym and nutrition.mange my time wisely. think about me first and stop being needy.its fucking upsetting that im strugling to close this older woman who is hot but all act the same pattern of 13yr olds. i want to close and i get her not responding my texts or not wanting to meet up.at this point im like fuck this shit.im fucking goodlooking i can game good if i pushed harder in daygame sets. go to gym. focus on me rather than my family.cause dude i get nightmares on dying and how old we are and how life is short man.like even healthiest man in world died of a heart attack.im be 33 and in 40 i cant be cold appraoching man.
I cant going to clubs or shit like that. inever had youth.ive always been true to my career and school and family behave and act and marry who they wanted me to. ofcourse i have to be passive aggressive with them cause i live here but give little not all my time.when im about to die in accident or old age or whenever i dont want to blame my parents or make excuses. i want to say thank you God for everything and thats it...
Wednesday, January 19, 2011
B-H-R-R Bait Hook Reel Release -L.A. Tripp, Mystery and my good friend Adrian
Bait Hook Reel Release
Author: Mystery
Seduction / Outer Game / Attraction Building /
Average Rating: 4.46 [Total Votes: 13]
You cannot indicate your interest (IOI) to a woman until she has first indicated her interest to you.
The ATTRACT STAGE has 3 phases:
1) OPEN - to get you into her group and in front of the girl
2) F2M female to male attract - to get her attracted to you and
3) M2F male to female attract to show that you have grown attracted to her for legitimized reasons.
Assuming you have completed phases 1 and 2, its time to move onto phase 3.
You may have already read about QUALIFYING principles. Many concepts about qualifying are incorporated into phase 3 of MM. The idea is to make a woman demonstrate a higher value to you (BAIT her into telling you INTERESTING THINGS about herself - not "What do you do?") so when she replies (HOOKing her to give you information) you can IOI her (REEL her in) only to push her off (RELEASE her from the pressure of being hit on). This occurs several times.
So the phase 3 sequence is: BAIT, HOOK, REEL, RELEASE.
Here is an example for you to use in-field right away.
You: What nationality are you?
Her: FRENCH
You: Seriously? No WAY!!! The girl I had the biggest crush on in high school was French! I can't even talk to you now.
Everytime she gives you a DHV (demonstration of higher value) you IOI her. This way she will believe your IOIs and when you fully SOI her, she will feel like she deserves it. This allows your attraction for her to letitimately GROW over several minutes instead of just IOIing her because she first IOI'd you.
Since an important aspect of MM is to restructure routines to be in context with YOUR IDENTITY in particular, take the time to write up some personalized phase 3 routines with this format. Afterall, I'm pretty sure YOU didn't have your first crush on a girl who was French right? Write 3 to 5 routines right now.
Here is one more example I used literally the night before writing this:
Me: If you could be anything in the world with no chance of failure, what would you want to be? And don't say "Princess" haa.
Her: Um, an actress.
Me: Really? When I was little I wanted to grow up and be a magician. And you know what I am now? A magician! So you want to be an actress. I'm living proof that our dreams can come true. It would be so cool if you were an actress. I LOVE THAT! We need to figure out how to make that happen. I bet you'd be an amazing actress. But what if you get more attention than I? I can't even hang out with you now.
Again, make yours congruent with your identity. You do not have to be a magician to do MM, but you do need a strong identity as I have.
I learned something from a good friend of mine yesterday. He said, "You are what you repeatedly do." Well, I performed some magic for the woman I later met (about 25 minutes after meeting her). I love to perform magic and find myself doing so many times every week. That makes me a magician. What do YOU do?
There are some F2M routines that are exceptions to the phase 3 format such as when you are complimenting a woman's beauty, but since that is potentially dangerous, I'll leave ANATOMICAL COMPLIMENTS for another time.
Mystery
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Author: Mystery
Seduction / Outer Game / Attraction Building /
Average Rating: 4.46 [Total Votes: 13]
You cannot indicate your interest (IOI) to a woman until she has first indicated her interest to you.
The ATTRACT STAGE has 3 phases:
1) OPEN - to get you into her group and in front of the girl
2) F2M female to male attract - to get her attracted to you and
3) M2F male to female attract to show that you have grown attracted to her for legitimized reasons.
Assuming you have completed phases 1 and 2, its time to move onto phase 3.
You may have already read about QUALIFYING principles. Many concepts about qualifying are incorporated into phase 3 of MM. The idea is to make a woman demonstrate a higher value to you (BAIT her into telling you INTERESTING THINGS about herself - not "What do you do?") so when she replies (HOOKing her to give you information) you can IOI her (REEL her in) only to push her off (RELEASE her from the pressure of being hit on). This occurs several times.
So the phase 3 sequence is: BAIT, HOOK, REEL, RELEASE.
Here is an example for you to use in-field right away.
You: What nationality are you?
Her: FRENCH
You: Seriously? No WAY!!! The girl I had the biggest crush on in high school was French! I can't even talk to you now.
Everytime she gives you a DHV (demonstration of higher value) you IOI her. This way she will believe your IOIs and when you fully SOI her, she will feel like she deserves it. This allows your attraction for her to letitimately GROW over several minutes instead of just IOIing her because she first IOI'd you.
Since an important aspect of MM is to restructure routines to be in context with YOUR IDENTITY in particular, take the time to write up some personalized phase 3 routines with this format. Afterall, I'm pretty sure YOU didn't have your first crush on a girl who was French right? Write 3 to 5 routines right now.
Here is one more example I used literally the night before writing this:
Me: If you could be anything in the world with no chance of failure, what would you want to be? And don't say "Princess" haa.
Her: Um, an actress.
Me: Really? When I was little I wanted to grow up and be a magician. And you know what I am now? A magician! So you want to be an actress. I'm living proof that our dreams can come true. It would be so cool if you were an actress. I LOVE THAT! We need to figure out how to make that happen. I bet you'd be an amazing actress. But what if you get more attention than I? I can't even hang out with you now.
Again, make yours congruent with your identity. You do not have to be a magician to do MM, but you do need a strong identity as I have.
I learned something from a good friend of mine yesterday. He said, "You are what you repeatedly do." Well, I performed some magic for the woman I later met (about 25 minutes after meeting her). I love to perform magic and find myself doing so many times every week. That makes me a magician. What do YOU do?
There are some F2M routines that are exceptions to the phase 3 format such as when you are complimenting a woman's beauty, but since that is potentially dangerous, I'll leave ANATOMICAL COMPLIMENTS for another time.
Mystery
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Sunday, December 19, 2010
failed 3am best review breakdown by LA TRIPP and FRANCO
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 3:56 AM, sandy wrote:
Hey Tripp, let me know if we could talk this week man, cool.
It has to do with different topics...
please read this FR cause I was abit tipsy when I wrote it.
Im fucking up with fast seductions man, and I need your help. WWYD?
Fast is all about amping up the ATTRACTION fast and enough comfort to keep her with you. This includes a lot of kino, escalated from almost none to quite a bit.
Lets talk soon bro,
FR
I was in bar 3am and one girl and ALL chodes hovering and
I approached went ok made mistakes buying drink to try to lock in
Yes, definitely a bad move. You've just been slotted with every other chode/AFC.
we took shots I did takeaways and locked in it looked l like she was gaming,then she said she was looking for the bartender that told her that he wanted to fuck her in a direct way....She siad guys being direct turned her on
Apparently you managed to show enough interest to still build some attraction in her. She was blatantly telling you what you needed to do to fuck her. So, you could have fucked her.
.....I was like that sounds cool but he isnt here tonight ...:)
Not too bad for a response. You should've shown your value a bit more though, with something like, "You don't need him, I'm the man tonight." Saying tonight or even for the night shows you aren't looking for something permanent, because likely she wasn't either.
she said she wasnt happy and unemployed.
She wasn't happy. You could've made her happy. The unemployed thing didn't need to be responded to.
I DIDNT KNOW HOW TO RESPOND WO COMING OFF TOO SUBSERVIANT and TURN IT INTO A POSITIVE THING
LOL, well there you go.
so I just said" Im student now so its kidah hard on myself too ,just waiting to finish"
Yeah . . . bad choice, lol.
as I went into asking if she read cosmo to transition to transition into sex talk she says NO! and she is more of GQ girl and grew up with liking guys stuff... I DIDNT KNOW HOW TO RECOVER !
"Oh, so you're a tomboy, eh?" Likely she would've agreed. "So, you like to play in the dirt . . . and get rough." Right there transitions into sex talk.
I said Im going to restroom be back and she said she go out for a smoke..
Yeah, bad move. lol.
I came back and chodes were surrounding her.. CHODE LEERING and PEERING
Of course, as they always do when the girl is hot.
I intro myself and they left play pool...for now ...but they keep looking over in spectator mode.
Your value was lost.
since I noticed her IOI another guy chode amogs
to spike her BT I took out my fake 80's DG sunglasses and put it on her
and seed the timebridge with friend and afterhours,
"I want you to come with me it will be fun", she said no I cant I live nearby and I m just hanging out ..... ( yeah hanging out at 3am
what are you talking about?!)
Because you had lost your value in her eyes/mind.
THE AMOG SCENE : then I fluff talk but she kept looking around and "whsperer amog" comes to side he doesnt know her, whisperes in her ear she looks at me and she laughs and looks at him... I then interupt and introduce myslef ..he doesnt comply and walks off but keeps looking at her while he is playing darts ...
So your value, at this moment, was higher than his. She had more interest in you. But, your value still isn't high enough since she's not focused on you.
She had already told you previously to be direct with her. My guess is you weren't direct enough.
I start preping and SOI, she then starts feeling tension from getting all female attention from the venue and she keeps looking at pool table and darts side while Im talking to her...
She was getting female attention?
I then say " HEY! look at me Im talking to you! HELLO!" kind of in a dominant way ( NOT SURE ITF THIS IS OK OR FUCK UP)
Actually, in this type of situation, this would show weakness on your part. Insecurity, and lack of self control.
she says like "yes" she looks right at me ...I go into story on female sex or natural women patter type improv I was doing and
A little interest on her part possibly, but more so trying to keep things calm.
I told her to "OK, lets go gt out of here"
she was like " Im staying here sorry Im not thet type of girl"
Yeah, she had no comfort or attraction built toward you, otherwise you could've pulled her out.
I was like " Shut up! shut up right now! I think your are cute and want to be with you"
Direct, but too late.
whisperer taps on her shoulder to come play darts ...
keeps whisperering again and I say "dude whats up man! " in a pissed way a little but subcommunication of wtf are you doing?!
You were showing MAJOR insecurity, man.
he wonders off but keeps looking...
she looks at me hard eye contact like sexual tension building but says
" last time I had a one night stand I ended up in a relationship , Im just going to play darts and pool with the boys"
She's trying to ease you off. Yet, because she's not getting you kicked out, she's hoping you might calm down and be a real alpha and give her a more genuine reason to leave with you.
amoggs came to check in and say "is everything alright?" I said yes and she just looked and he left but kept leering...
I said " Do you want to come with me? I really like to fuck you in the ass" and smiled with a smirk ala benicio del toro in traffic
she stared at me for congruence test and said
"I'd really like that ...but Im not going to do that "
" So, Im going to go play pool now.."
I was like " You are soo full of shit ; ) " and I left...kindah of upset and yet didnt pull....
The directness came too late. And, the directness was too vulgar, actually. You don't get that vulgar with the directness that soon. Especially not after you've shown so much insecurity. You can do better than this, bro.
FRANCO Comments:
Hello Sandros,
First of all get rid of negative frames like "failed seduction" they stuff your mind with emotions which impair your game.
There is no failure: only feedback.
let´s examine the feedback we can get from this case:
papa sandros wrote:
This FR is very very RAW I worte it out of bein a littel upset and tipsy...and its unedited.
>then she said she was looking for the bartender that told >her that he wanted to fuck her in a direct way....She siad >guys being direct turned her on.....I was like that sounds >cool but he isnt here tonight ...
This can mean two things:
1. She is telling you how to seduce her = she wants you to be a direct mother fucker in order to have her agree to have sex with you.
or ( this is more likely to be true)
2. She is a cock teaser..
The strategy is different depending on which one of the two.
>she said she wasnt happy and unemployed.
>I DIDNT KNOW HOW TO RESPOND WO COMING OFF TOO >SUBSERVIANT and TURN IT INTO A POSITIVE THING
When a girl gives you a too over sexual clue stop talking about anything connected with sex. If she is a cock teaser she will use that to betaise you.
Instead work on the principle: "Don´t explicate, demonstrate"
I would comment to this like
"Oh nice to hear that the guy wants you to have a great time"
And then I would stop any discussion connected with sex and focus on isolating her.
The asshole part of me I would put out when we are in isolation.
>so I just said" Im student now so its kidah hard on myself >too ,just waiting to finish"
>as I went into asking if she read cosmo to transition to >transition into sex talk she says NO! and she is more of GQ >girl and grew up with liking guys stuff... I DIDNT KNOW >HOW TO RECOVER !
She is telling you she is a masculine girl, maybe Daddy´s daughter.
This is the kind of girl who likes to be taken by a muscular gym teacher who teaches her how to pump iron and then fucks her.
If... she is not cock teasing you.. see there are Freak girls around who enjoy getting the guys to the edge of their sexual desire and then.. disappear.
>I said Im going to restroom be back and she said she go out >for a smoke..
>I came back and chodes were surrounding her.. CHODE >LEERING and PEERING
Giving her the attention she was craving for when she went to the bar. Notice: I said attention, not sex.
>I intro myself and they left play pool...for now ...but they >keep looking over in spectator mode.
>since I noticed her IOI another guy chode amogs
>to spike her BT I took out my fake 80's DG sunglasses and >put it on her
>and seed the timebridge with friend and afterhours,
>"I want you to come with me it will be fun", she said no I >cant I live nearby and I m just hanging out ..... ( yeah >hanging out at 3am
>what are you talking about?!)
Ok you could have said: "I am sure you have a nice kitchen. Let´s go to have a look at your kitchen" See the only way to f.close her is to have her away from the place she gets attention.. if she refuses isolation in spite of a very self-confident approach from you that means she will be there all the night fishing for attention and "maybe" go for the sex .. or go home alone.
>THE AMOG SCENE : then I fluff talk but she kept looking >around and "whsperer amog" comes to side he doesnt know >her, whisperes in her ear she looks at me and she laughs >and looks at him...
Well she is playing the field for attention. See, remember this: for women and especially of the Freak type attention is far more important than sex.
You need to remember on what she focuses in her game..
>I then interupt and introduce myslef ..he doesnt comply >and walks off but keeps looking at her while he is playing >darts ...
>I start preping and SOI, she then starts feeling tension from >getting all female attention from the venue and she keeps >looking at pool table and darts side while Im talking to her...
>I then say " HEY! look at me Im talking to you! HELLO!" kind >of in a dominant way ( NOT SURE ITF THIS IS OK OR FUCK >UP)
>she says like "yes" she looks right at me ...I go into story on >female sex or natural women patter type improv I was doing >and
>I told her to "OK, lets go gt out of here"
>she was like " Im staying here sorry Im not thet type of girl"
She is fishing for attention. She is the same girl who told you that the bartender told he wants to fuck her and that she likes direct men.
So: she is cock teasing you. Using the sex hook to get attention..
>I was like " Shut up! shut up right now! I think your are >cute and want to be with you"
>whisperer taps on her shoulder to come play darts ...
>keeps whisperering again and I say "dude whats up man! " in >a pissed way a little but subcommunication of wtf are you >doing?!
>he wonders off but keeps looking...
>she looks at me hard eye contact like sexual tension >building but says
>" last time I had a one night stand I ended up in a >relationship , Im just going to play darts and pool with the >boys"
Ok she wants to make sure that if she has sex you will not become the jealous possessive boy who stalks her..
amoggs came to check in and say "is everything alright?" I said yes and she just looked and he left but kept leering...
>I said " Do you want to come with me? I really like to fuck >you in the ass" and smiled with a smirk ala benicio del toro >in traffic
>she stared at me for congruence test and said
>"I'd really like that ...but Im not going to do that "
Ok she told you plain that she is enjoying the teasing game she is doing in the bar and the attention of the boys and having fun cock teasing guys.
Next time a girl tries to cock tease you with sex what you have to do is to shift the game to something boring and neutral like financial news and politics and then escalate on her with your kino without saying a word about sex.
She asks: "What you are doing?" when you touch her hand
You say: "I think next year the financial forecast is getting better" and put your hand on her ass..
If you do not verbalize SEX or anything else she will be forced to submit to kino of push you away which will ruin her need for communication and need for cock teasing you..
>" So, Im going to go play pool now.."
>I was like " You are soo full of shit ; ) " and I left...kindah >of upset and yet didnt pull....
Now nice to be cock teased.. next time you will be better with cock teasers.
Cheers, Franco
http://www.francoseduction.com/manual-of-seduction
Hey Tripp, let me know if we could talk this week man, cool.
It has to do with different topics...
please read this FR cause I was abit tipsy when I wrote it.
Im fucking up with fast seductions man, and I need your help. WWYD?
Fast is all about amping up the ATTRACTION fast and enough comfort to keep her with you. This includes a lot of kino, escalated from almost none to quite a bit.
Lets talk soon bro,
FR
I was in bar 3am and one girl and ALL chodes hovering and
I approached went ok made mistakes buying drink to try to lock in
Yes, definitely a bad move. You've just been slotted with every other chode/AFC.
we took shots I did takeaways and locked in it looked l like she was gaming,then she said she was looking for the bartender that told her that he wanted to fuck her in a direct way....She siad guys being direct turned her on
Apparently you managed to show enough interest to still build some attraction in her. She was blatantly telling you what you needed to do to fuck her. So, you could have fucked her.
.....I was like that sounds cool but he isnt here tonight ...:)
Not too bad for a response. You should've shown your value a bit more though, with something like, "You don't need him, I'm the man tonight." Saying tonight or even for the night shows you aren't looking for something permanent, because likely she wasn't either.
she said she wasnt happy and unemployed.
She wasn't happy. You could've made her happy. The unemployed thing didn't need to be responded to.
I DIDNT KNOW HOW TO RESPOND WO COMING OFF TOO SUBSERVIANT and TURN IT INTO A POSITIVE THING
LOL, well there you go.
so I just said" Im student now so its kidah hard on myself too ,just waiting to finish"
Yeah . . . bad choice, lol.
as I went into asking if she read cosmo to transition to transition into sex talk she says NO! and she is more of GQ girl and grew up with liking guys stuff... I DIDNT KNOW HOW TO RECOVER !
"Oh, so you're a tomboy, eh?" Likely she would've agreed. "So, you like to play in the dirt . . . and get rough." Right there transitions into sex talk.
I said Im going to restroom be back and she said she go out for a smoke..
Yeah, bad move. lol.
I came back and chodes were surrounding her.. CHODE LEERING and PEERING
Of course, as they always do when the girl is hot.
I intro myself and they left play pool...for now ...but they keep looking over in spectator mode.
Your value was lost.
since I noticed her IOI another guy chode amogs
to spike her BT I took out my fake 80's DG sunglasses and put it on her
and seed the timebridge with friend and afterhours,
"I want you to come with me it will be fun", she said no I cant I live nearby and I m just hanging out ..... ( yeah hanging out at 3am
what are you talking about?!)
Because you had lost your value in her eyes/mind.
THE AMOG SCENE : then I fluff talk but she kept looking around and "whsperer amog" comes to side he doesnt know her, whisperes in her ear she looks at me and she laughs and looks at him... I then interupt and introduce myslef ..he doesnt comply and walks off but keeps looking at her while he is playing darts ...
So your value, at this moment, was higher than his. She had more interest in you. But, your value still isn't high enough since she's not focused on you.
She had already told you previously to be direct with her. My guess is you weren't direct enough.
I start preping and SOI, she then starts feeling tension from getting all female attention from the venue and she keeps looking at pool table and darts side while Im talking to her...
She was getting female attention?
I then say " HEY! look at me Im talking to you! HELLO!" kind of in a dominant way ( NOT SURE ITF THIS IS OK OR FUCK UP)
Actually, in this type of situation, this would show weakness on your part. Insecurity, and lack of self control.
she says like "yes" she looks right at me ...I go into story on female sex or natural women patter type improv I was doing and
A little interest on her part possibly, but more so trying to keep things calm.
I told her to "OK, lets go gt out of here"
she was like " Im staying here sorry Im not thet type of girl"
Yeah, she had no comfort or attraction built toward you, otherwise you could've pulled her out.
I was like " Shut up! shut up right now! I think your are cute and want to be with you"
Direct, but too late.
whisperer taps on her shoulder to come play darts ...
keeps whisperering again and I say "dude whats up man! " in a pissed way a little but subcommunication of wtf are you doing?!
You were showing MAJOR insecurity, man.
he wonders off but keeps looking...
she looks at me hard eye contact like sexual tension building but says
" last time I had a one night stand I ended up in a relationship , Im just going to play darts and pool with the boys"
She's trying to ease you off. Yet, because she's not getting you kicked out, she's hoping you might calm down and be a real alpha and give her a more genuine reason to leave with you.
amoggs came to check in and say "is everything alright?" I said yes and she just looked and he left but kept leering...
I said " Do you want to come with me? I really like to fuck you in the ass" and smiled with a smirk ala benicio del toro in traffic
she stared at me for congruence test and said
"I'd really like that ...but Im not going to do that "
" So, Im going to go play pool now.."
I was like " You are soo full of shit ; ) " and I left...kindah of upset and yet didnt pull....
The directness came too late. And, the directness was too vulgar, actually. You don't get that vulgar with the directness that soon. Especially not after you've shown so much insecurity. You can do better than this, bro.
FRANCO Comments:
Hello Sandros,
First of all get rid of negative frames like "failed seduction" they stuff your mind with emotions which impair your game.
There is no failure: only feedback.
let´s examine the feedback we can get from this case:
papa sandros wrote:
This FR is very very RAW I worte it out of bein a littel upset and tipsy...and its unedited.
>then she said she was looking for the bartender that told >her that he wanted to fuck her in a direct way....She siad >guys being direct turned her on.....I was like that sounds >cool but he isnt here tonight ...
This can mean two things:
1. She is telling you how to seduce her = she wants you to be a direct mother fucker in order to have her agree to have sex with you.
or ( this is more likely to be true)
2. She is a cock teaser..
The strategy is different depending on which one of the two.
>she said she wasnt happy and unemployed.
>I DIDNT KNOW HOW TO RESPOND WO COMING OFF TOO >SUBSERVIANT and TURN IT INTO A POSITIVE THING
When a girl gives you a too over sexual clue stop talking about anything connected with sex. If she is a cock teaser she will use that to betaise you.
Instead work on the principle: "Don´t explicate, demonstrate"
I would comment to this like
"Oh nice to hear that the guy wants you to have a great time"
And then I would stop any discussion connected with sex and focus on isolating her.
The asshole part of me I would put out when we are in isolation.
>so I just said" Im student now so its kidah hard on myself >too ,just waiting to finish"
>as I went into asking if she read cosmo to transition to >transition into sex talk she says NO! and she is more of GQ >girl and grew up with liking guys stuff... I DIDNT KNOW >HOW TO RECOVER !
She is telling you she is a masculine girl, maybe Daddy´s daughter.
This is the kind of girl who likes to be taken by a muscular gym teacher who teaches her how to pump iron and then fucks her.
If... she is not cock teasing you.. see there are Freak girls around who enjoy getting the guys to the edge of their sexual desire and then.. disappear.
>I said Im going to restroom be back and she said she go out >for a smoke..
>I came back and chodes were surrounding her.. CHODE >LEERING and PEERING
Giving her the attention she was craving for when she went to the bar. Notice: I said attention, not sex.
>I intro myself and they left play pool...for now ...but they >keep looking over in spectator mode.
>since I noticed her IOI another guy chode amogs
>to spike her BT I took out my fake 80's DG sunglasses and >put it on her
>and seed the timebridge with friend and afterhours,
>"I want you to come with me it will be fun", she said no I >cant I live nearby and I m just hanging out ..... ( yeah >hanging out at 3am
>what are you talking about?!)
Ok you could have said: "I am sure you have a nice kitchen. Let´s go to have a look at your kitchen" See the only way to f.close her is to have her away from the place she gets attention.. if she refuses isolation in spite of a very self-confident approach from you that means she will be there all the night fishing for attention and "maybe" go for the sex .. or go home alone.
>THE AMOG SCENE : then I fluff talk but she kept looking >around and "whsperer amog" comes to side he doesnt know >her, whisperes in her ear she looks at me and she laughs >and looks at him...
Well she is playing the field for attention. See, remember this: for women and especially of the Freak type attention is far more important than sex.
You need to remember on what she focuses in her game..
>I then interupt and introduce myslef ..he doesnt comply >and walks off but keeps looking at her while he is playing >darts ...
>I start preping and SOI, she then starts feeling tension from >getting all female attention from the venue and she keeps >looking at pool table and darts side while Im talking to her...
>I then say " HEY! look at me Im talking to you! HELLO!" kind >of in a dominant way ( NOT SURE ITF THIS IS OK OR FUCK >UP)
>she says like "yes" she looks right at me ...I go into story on >female sex or natural women patter type improv I was doing >and
>I told her to "OK, lets go gt out of here"
>she was like " Im staying here sorry Im not thet type of girl"
She is fishing for attention. She is the same girl who told you that the bartender told he wants to fuck her and that she likes direct men.
So: she is cock teasing you. Using the sex hook to get attention..
>I was like " Shut up! shut up right now! I think your are >cute and want to be with you"
>whisperer taps on her shoulder to come play darts ...
>keeps whisperering again and I say "dude whats up man! " in >a pissed way a little but subcommunication of wtf are you >doing?!
>he wonders off but keeps looking...
>she looks at me hard eye contact like sexual tension >building but says
>" last time I had a one night stand I ended up in a >relationship , Im just going to play darts and pool with the >boys"
Ok she wants to make sure that if she has sex you will not become the jealous possessive boy who stalks her..
amoggs came to check in and say "is everything alright?" I said yes and she just looked and he left but kept leering...
>I said " Do you want to come with me? I really like to fuck >you in the ass" and smiled with a smirk ala benicio del toro >in traffic
>she stared at me for congruence test and said
>"I'd really like that ...but Im not going to do that "
Ok she told you plain that she is enjoying the teasing game she is doing in the bar and the attention of the boys and having fun cock teasing guys.
Next time a girl tries to cock tease you with sex what you have to do is to shift the game to something boring and neutral like financial news and politics and then escalate on her with your kino without saying a word about sex.
She asks: "What you are doing?" when you touch her hand
You say: "I think next year the financial forecast is getting better" and put your hand on her ass..
If you do not verbalize SEX or anything else she will be forced to submit to kino of push you away which will ruin her need for communication and need for cock teasing you..
>" So, Im going to go play pool now.."
>I was like " You are soo full of shit ; ) " and I left...kindah >of upset and yet didnt pull....
Now nice to be cock teased.. next time you will be better with cock teasers.
Cheers, Franco
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Thursday, December 16, 2010
Daytime women who avoid eye contact..physical shit test ?
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I usually do more seduction and try not to overthink too much with too much theory. Been busy with an important exam coming up so been studying that.
BUT I like to go out during daytime here in Miami.
2 days ago I ran into a strange situation.
I had to run errands. this is art of where I go to talk with strangers etc..
daygame etc
I usually do more inital eye contact and use my deep voice as per Jesse's voice excersize video. i dont joke too much but use alot of eye contact and very sly semi sexual and smirk..and see if she gives non verbal IOIs then I open my mouth about random stuff.
but today somethign I noticed...
Cashier semi attractive big tits 27 yr old latin/cuban woman 8*, though very limited in talking with clients...She would give me eye contact, I tried even throwing in a joke and she kept looking elsewhere or down but not directly at me, like breaking rapport in subtle way.
next bank teller ,
blonde 20 yr old really young sexy latin/cuban another *8..
I was talking to her to pay something, I noticed she was doing superficial rapport and not checking me out at all. I then start throwing a story in to "DHV" ,still she ignored not even pay attention to what I was saying.
Also avoided eye contact all together and ran superficial rapport. She avoid further talk.
Im unsure if I should let it go/withdraw NEXT or break rapport to make her uneasy and move interaction forward.
Like to hear from Jesse and you guys who have experienced this and noticed.
I dont usually get this but Im not sure if it has to deal with type of woman, or the mindset of detecting that reaction when the girl is not reacting at all towards you period.
I usually get noticed by women, they hold eye contact or even initate eye contact with me and hold it.
but most latin or Cuban women intially to me ,they avoid eye contact or look down like avoiding at all cost eventhough we are talking.
Its something not to obesess about but Id like to hear your thoughts on how you see this and can be talked about.
is it a physical sh*t test for you to do something or is it basically not interested and NEXT....
this would be very intersting to hear.
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Well, as always the world doesnt turn around you Sandee, so occasional miss eye contact is acceptable. If you really want to have a person make eye contact with you, you can always try some unconventional stuff, like creating awkward situation or pauses...
Dont over think this.
Btw, I missed your intro. Did you do it?
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Well, as always the world doesnt turn around you Sandee, so occasional miss eye contact is acceptable. If you really want to have a person make eye contact with you, you can always try some unconventional stuff, like creating awkward situation or pauses...
Dont over think this.
Btw, I missed your intro. Did you do it?
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Sandee, many girls will specifically look away or look down when they feel ATTRACTED to you. So it's really tough to gauge attraction levels when a girl is not making eye contact. She could be feeling nothing OR she could be feeling sexual heat and that's her automated response to deal with it - avert her eyes.
You don't want to get into a habit of looking for eye contact either, ideally. A woman gives you eye contact and you feel validated. Your state spikes and you feel better.
The next girl doesn't give you eye contact, and you wonder what's wrong. Your state slips.
Your state goes up and down, and you start gaming just to get eye contact rather than opening. Not at all saying that is what's happening here, but just something to watch for!
Persistence is your friend here. If a girl is averting her eyes, you need to keep talking to her (with a touch if you can) so that she has time to become comfortable, and then she'll start making eye contact back.
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Its one of thouse things that when I started using non verbal sexual cuing with women, a whole perspective opened up....
as you explain this very well, YES, as I started getting these women that "avoid personal rapport/avoid eye contact", My inner self went into short circuit.
YES, You are dead on brother!
that is whats happening, I got to stop doing that.
Persistance, definately will try to be more.
You totally understand me Jesse, Thank you bro
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by Franco » Sun Nov 28, 2010 6:18 am
Hello Sandros,
Yes physical shit tests do exist.
I analyze your descriptions of non verbal situations:
>casheir semi attractive big tits 32 yrs old latin/cuban woman 8*, though >very limited in talking with clients...She would give me eye contact, I tried >even throwing in a joke and she kept looking elsewhere or down but not >directly at me, like breaking rapport in subtle way.
Usually if she does not like you she looks to the side. It´s an instinctive reaction. Men do the same: if you see a UG on your way instinctively you turn your head to the other side. This reactions of hers: first giving EC and then looking elsewhere or down tells me more that she is either shy or was caught off guard by your approach.
>next bank teller ,
>blonde 20 yr old really young sexy latin/cuban another *8..
>I was talking to her to pay something, I noticed she was doing superficial >rapport and not checking me out at all. I then start throwing a story in to >"DHV" ,still she ignored not even pay attention to what I was saying.
>Also avoided eye contact all together and ran superficial rapport. She >avoid further talk.
This one is being professional: she gave you the clear message "Don´t mess with me. I am working and being a professional here."
In my opinion the first one had comfort issues when you approached and you got her off guard. So work on comfort. The second one you can next: she gave you the clear message that she is working and does not want/cannot let you in.
>Im unsure if I should let it go/withdraw NEXT or break rapport ish type of >push pull compliment to gauge attention and push the interaction when >this happens.
Risk taking is always good still.. you need to also be good in investing your energy to avoid loss of time. Time is gold in business and... sarging. I would say with the first one you can try to build more comfort and with the second one risk taking would carry a cost of opportunity which is too big especially if there are other nice girls around.
Cheers, Franco
http://www.francoseduction.com/manual-of-seduction
Like to hear from Franco and you guys who have experienced this and noticed.
I dont usually get this but Im not sure if it has to deal with type of woman, or the mindset of detecting that reaction when the girl is not reacting at all towards you period.
I usually get noticed by women, they hold eye contact or even initate eye contact with me and hold it.
but most latin women intially they avoid eye contact or look down like avoiding at all cost eventhough we are talking.
Its something not to obesess about but Id like to hear your thoughts on how you see this and can be talked about.
is it a physical shite test for you to do something or is it basically not interested and NEXT....
this would be very intersting to hear.
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by papa sandros » Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:48 am
Thank you Franco,
I find it weird. but it makes sense. Some women dont want so I NEXT.
YEs the field taught me stuff and Im glad you can tell me its true about physical shit test.
Thank you talk soon
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Hey Tripp,
sorry Ive been away.
Np. I've been super busy too.
Ive been studying for an exam and went to interviews.Its alot of stuff.
That's good though.
I think we have a couple of minutes left to talk.
1. Daygame: I do daygame usually when Im doing things. Ive been having better louder sound in my voice due to rehersing karaoke.lol.
Good. A more solid voice is always a good thing.
I noticed here in Miami, latin women arent that friendly.
couple of things happen with hired guns here is: They avoid eye contact.women whether cashier or bank teller or supermarket checkout girl.
Hmm. Avoiding eye contact is very bad for a hired gun. That means those employees don't give a shit about their job. "Hired guns" are just that, girls that are hired because of their looks but are also required to be social. Of course, the jobs you mention here, most of those girls look at those jobs as just "filler", basically meaningless. A paycheck and that's it. When you think of "hired guns", think more of strippers and waitresses. Things like that. Those women had a purpose when they got those jobs. To look good to make money.
Even though I throw my voice and eliciting IOI's by bodylanguage.
Ok, how do you mean you're eliciting IOI's by body language? What are you doing?
They avoid eye contact, its like superficial rapport.
this has happend several ocassions.
So today went to bank teller to explain about an account I had in NY and that I owed money to the bank, I moved here in FL.
Well, talking to a bank teller about an old account you owe money on . . . isn't exactly high value, lol.
She was really pretty, I did bodylanguage and smiled but not too much...threw in 2 DHVs to create attraction "I had this account when I lived in NY,now moved here to Miami but was away US, so Im trying to catch up from traveling" since She wasnt really listening to me...still no reaction....Whoa...whats wrong?
From what it sounds to me, probably wondering how you traveled if you owe money on a bank account. Or thinks you're irresponsible to travel while owing money on a bank account. Just my take from what I'm reading, bro.
its daygame and I was thinking ok,its usually rapport based attraction...
she had green eyes, I thought mysterys are they real or throw in a joke but at that point it was time to bounce.
I don't see that working in this particular situation.
the other ones gave no chance of even building rapport nor eye contact..
its weird. then I bumped into this article which explained how women here are.http://www.seductionscience.com/2010/south-beach-miami/
""The women are not particularly friendly. Not mean. But not really friendly either. Picking up by being a laid back, “nice guy” won’t cut it. Expect blow out after blow out and stay in the set no matter what until you turn them around. It’s intense and a rush, but don’t expect to just breeze on in and pull girls with little effort.""
I dont like nightgame and I havent been doing any nightgame either.
I did have few intereactions w women to hook up online but thats fools mate.
Ok, I understand not liking night game since it's not for everyone, but the LEARNING curve is MUCH faster when learning night game. But, why do you not like fool's mate?
I wanted your thoughts on daygame and some suggestions from sticking points. here mentioned and would be great addition to talk.
Daygame uses the same attraction switches as night game, but it's a much different pace. Night game is about the fastest pace you'll find. Day game is much slower in a way, but you also have to realize that during the day, women have this "to do" list in their head, so may not be too open to talking then either. They are thinking, "I need to get this and this and this done. I don't have time to talk." Other women are just leisurely taking their time because they HAVE plenty of time. You have to calibrate to each of those.
Im taking my exam 1st week in December, was going to take it in november cause its very broad.
Lets talk soon,
thanks,
We should be able to talk soon. I may be able to squeeze 30 minutes in this week. I've got a really busy week. And I've got my first book signing this Saturday, plus Thanksgiving Thursday and all that.
I usually do more seduction and try not to overthink too much with too much theory. Been busy with an important exam coming up so been studying that.
BUT I like to go out during daytime here in Miami.
2 days ago I ran into a strange situation.
I had to run errands. this is art of where I go to talk with strangers etc..
daygame etc
I usually do more inital eye contact and use my deep voice as per Jesse's voice excersize video. i dont joke too much but use alot of eye contact and very sly semi sexual and smirk..and see if she gives non verbal IOIs then I open my mouth about random stuff.
but today somethign I noticed...
Cashier semi attractive big tits 27 yr old latin/cuban woman 8*, though very limited in talking with clients...She would give me eye contact, I tried even throwing in a joke and she kept looking elsewhere or down but not directly at me, like breaking rapport in subtle way.
next bank teller ,
blonde 20 yr old really young sexy latin/cuban another *8..
I was talking to her to pay something, I noticed she was doing superficial rapport and not checking me out at all. I then start throwing a story in to "DHV" ,still she ignored not even pay attention to what I was saying.
Also avoided eye contact all together and ran superficial rapport. She avoid further talk.
Im unsure if I should let it go/withdraw NEXT or break rapport to make her uneasy and move interaction forward.
Like to hear from Jesse and you guys who have experienced this and noticed.
I dont usually get this but Im not sure if it has to deal with type of woman, or the mindset of detecting that reaction when the girl is not reacting at all towards you period.
I usually get noticed by women, they hold eye contact or even initate eye contact with me and hold it.
but most latin or Cuban women intially to me ,they avoid eye contact or look down like avoiding at all cost eventhough we are talking.
Its something not to obesess about but Id like to hear your thoughts on how you see this and can be talked about.
is it a physical sh*t test for you to do something or is it basically not interested and NEXT....
this would be very intersting to hear.
Thanks
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Well, as always the world doesnt turn around you Sandee, so occasional miss eye contact is acceptable. If you really want to have a person make eye contact with you, you can always try some unconventional stuff, like creating awkward situation or pauses...
Dont over think this.
Btw, I missed your intro. Did you do it?
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Well, as always the world doesnt turn around you Sandee, so occasional miss eye contact is acceptable. If you really want to have a person make eye contact with you, you can always try some unconventional stuff, like creating awkward situation or pauses...
Dont over think this.
Btw, I missed your intro. Did you do it?
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Sandee, many girls will specifically look away or look down when they feel ATTRACTED to you. So it's really tough to gauge attraction levels when a girl is not making eye contact. She could be feeling nothing OR she could be feeling sexual heat and that's her automated response to deal with it - avert her eyes.
You don't want to get into a habit of looking for eye contact either, ideally. A woman gives you eye contact and you feel validated. Your state spikes and you feel better.
The next girl doesn't give you eye contact, and you wonder what's wrong. Your state slips.
Your state goes up and down, and you start gaming just to get eye contact rather than opening. Not at all saying that is what's happening here, but just something to watch for!
Persistence is your friend here. If a girl is averting her eyes, you need to keep talking to her (with a touch if you can) so that she has time to become comfortable, and then she'll start making eye contact back.
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Its one of thouse things that when I started using non verbal sexual cuing with women, a whole perspective opened up....
as you explain this very well, YES, as I started getting these women that "avoid personal rapport/avoid eye contact", My inner self went into short circuit.
YES, You are dead on brother!
that is whats happening, I got to stop doing that.
Persistance, definately will try to be more.
You totally understand me Jesse, Thank you bro
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by Franco » Sun Nov 28, 2010 6:18 am
Hello Sandros,
Yes physical shit tests do exist.
I analyze your descriptions of non verbal situations:
>casheir semi attractive big tits 32 yrs old latin/cuban woman 8*, though >very limited in talking with clients...She would give me eye contact, I tried >even throwing in a joke and she kept looking elsewhere or down but not >directly at me, like breaking rapport in subtle way.
Usually if she does not like you she looks to the side. It´s an instinctive reaction. Men do the same: if you see a UG on your way instinctively you turn your head to the other side. This reactions of hers: first giving EC and then looking elsewhere or down tells me more that she is either shy or was caught off guard by your approach.
>next bank teller ,
>blonde 20 yr old really young sexy latin/cuban another *8..
>I was talking to her to pay something, I noticed she was doing superficial >rapport and not checking me out at all. I then start throwing a story in to >"DHV" ,still she ignored not even pay attention to what I was saying.
>Also avoided eye contact all together and ran superficial rapport. She >avoid further talk.
This one is being professional: she gave you the clear message "Don´t mess with me. I am working and being a professional here."
In my opinion the first one had comfort issues when you approached and you got her off guard. So work on comfort. The second one you can next: she gave you the clear message that she is working and does not want/cannot let you in.
>Im unsure if I should let it go/withdraw NEXT or break rapport ish type of >push pull compliment to gauge attention and push the interaction when >this happens.
Risk taking is always good still.. you need to also be good in investing your energy to avoid loss of time. Time is gold in business and... sarging. I would say with the first one you can try to build more comfort and with the second one risk taking would carry a cost of opportunity which is too big especially if there are other nice girls around.
Cheers, Franco
http://www.francoseduction.com/manual-of-seduction
Like to hear from Franco and you guys who have experienced this and noticed.
I dont usually get this but Im not sure if it has to deal with type of woman, or the mindset of detecting that reaction when the girl is not reacting at all towards you period.
I usually get noticed by women, they hold eye contact or even initate eye contact with me and hold it.
but most latin women intially they avoid eye contact or look down like avoiding at all cost eventhough we are talking.
Its something not to obesess about but Id like to hear your thoughts on how you see this and can be talked about.
is it a physical shite test for you to do something or is it basically not interested and NEXT....
this would be very intersting to hear.
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by papa sandros » Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:48 am
Thank you Franco,
I find it weird. but it makes sense. Some women dont want so I NEXT.
YEs the field taught me stuff and Im glad you can tell me its true about physical shit test.
Thank you talk soon
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TRipps :
Hey Tripp,
sorry Ive been away.
Np. I've been super busy too.
Ive been studying for an exam and went to interviews.Its alot of stuff.
That's good though.
I think we have a couple of minutes left to talk.
1. Daygame: I do daygame usually when Im doing things. Ive been having better louder sound in my voice due to rehersing karaoke.lol.
Good. A more solid voice is always a good thing.
I noticed here in Miami, latin women arent that friendly.
couple of things happen with hired guns here is: They avoid eye contact.women whether cashier or bank teller or supermarket checkout girl.
Hmm. Avoiding eye contact is very bad for a hired gun. That means those employees don't give a shit about their job. "Hired guns" are just that, girls that are hired because of their looks but are also required to be social. Of course, the jobs you mention here, most of those girls look at those jobs as just "filler", basically meaningless. A paycheck and that's it. When you think of "hired guns", think more of strippers and waitresses. Things like that. Those women had a purpose when they got those jobs. To look good to make money.
Even though I throw my voice and eliciting IOI's by bodylanguage.
Ok, how do you mean you're eliciting IOI's by body language? What are you doing?
They avoid eye contact, its like superficial rapport.
this has happend several ocassions.
So today went to bank teller to explain about an account I had in NY and that I owed money to the bank, I moved here in FL.
Well, talking to a bank teller about an old account you owe money on . . . isn't exactly high value, lol.
She was really pretty, I did bodylanguage and smiled but not too much...threw in 2 DHVs to create attraction "I had this account when I lived in NY,now moved here to Miami but was away US, so Im trying to catch up from traveling" since She wasnt really listening to me...still no reaction....Whoa...whats wrong?
From what it sounds to me, probably wondering how you traveled if you owe money on a bank account. Or thinks you're irresponsible to travel while owing money on a bank account. Just my take from what I'm reading, bro.
its daygame and I was thinking ok,its usually rapport based attraction...
she had green eyes, I thought mysterys are they real or throw in a joke but at that point it was time to bounce.
I don't see that working in this particular situation.
the other ones gave no chance of even building rapport nor eye contact..
its weird. then I bumped into this article which explained how women here are.http://www.seductionscience.com/2010/south-beach-miami/
""The women are not particularly friendly. Not mean. But not really friendly either. Picking up by being a laid back, “nice guy” won’t cut it. Expect blow out after blow out and stay in the set no matter what until you turn them around. It’s intense and a rush, but don’t expect to just breeze on in and pull girls with little effort.""
I dont like nightgame and I havent been doing any nightgame either.
I did have few intereactions w women to hook up online but thats fools mate.
Ok, I understand not liking night game since it's not for everyone, but the LEARNING curve is MUCH faster when learning night game. But, why do you not like fool's mate?
I wanted your thoughts on daygame and some suggestions from sticking points. here mentioned and would be great addition to talk.
Daygame uses the same attraction switches as night game, but it's a much different pace. Night game is about the fastest pace you'll find. Day game is much slower in a way, but you also have to realize that during the day, women have this "to do" list in their head, so may not be too open to talking then either. They are thinking, "I need to get this and this and this done. I don't have time to talk." Other women are just leisurely taking their time because they HAVE plenty of time. You have to calibrate to each of those.
Im taking my exam 1st week in December, was going to take it in november cause its very broad.
Lets talk soon,
thanks,
We should be able to talk soon. I may be able to squeeze 30 minutes in this week. I've got a really busy week. And I've got my first book signing this Saturday, plus Thanksgiving Thursday and all that.
Having sex with girls outside of your place, Im STUCK! Logistics
Im having this issue.
When its time to close and she seems horny and have sex its usually not at the seduction location.
Than when I am thinking about taking her to a place like to enter the motel, she freaks out and gets major LMR.
I cant take her to my place cause Im temporaily sharing it with someone while school starts again for me to move out on my own.
Also I tried in the car but it isnt comfortable at all.
in the past I never got LMR like this but its predictable a girl would get freaked out when she enters a motel and starts feeling like a slut.
last girls didnt care about motel they were really horny and I just took them.
but Im now finding that a problem when I have made out and touched her sexually and she is turned on and it isnt at the seduction location.
She gets honry or throws sexualinnuendo at me and is horny and cant figure what to do .....and if we driving somewhere and I drive in to motel.
Its kindah funny but frustrating......
I'd like to ask any experienced guys out there who have had to deal with such problem.
once I move out , and get girls to my place would be smoother pickup.
Im encountering this issues cause in the past if I let it pass and leave it for a date, her attraction dissapates and i dont hear from girls...So I decided once its on and they get all sexual then I should go for the Fast seduction.
any insight would help thanks.-
PS: I'm probably not keeping her sexually aroused on the drive to the motel.
#2 (permalink) 12-01-2010, 09:54 AM
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The only perfect solution to this is to get your own place.
One solution: you pull her into your car and just finger her or do oral sex. And then the NEXT time you meet up with her, pull her to a cheap motel. She'll be cool with it by then. It does add extra steps.
Or just don't tell her where you're going, just say "Let's Go". When you get to the motel, tell her that you LIVE in the motel temporarily because you're moving just to get her inside the door. That's just BS to turn off her objections. She'll see once you get inside that you're not living there, but at least you're inside.
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I noiced doc holliday uses the bathrroom and I treid that and it doesnt work at times, most consistent is your place ala janka.
Adam lyons posted a video and he mentioned changin plans and watching a movie pull....
but only time I had work is when girl was already attracted...I remeber HB susan saradon FB, who told me she wanted to go somewhere with me provate, we did it in a hotel. also the black girl in DR , I picked her up due to safety and I dorve around abit and bought her beer we talk for 15 minutes and drove to motel and she fucked me.
so these scenarios are possible...just have to lead and pump her state.
LA Tripp pointed out :
Good. I know society would have you think escalation is creepy, but it's only creepy if you do it in a creepy way. Escalation is normal and life won't progress without it ;)
i think alot of sticking points in my head would clear out once I move the fuck out.
Yes, moving out will help a lot, this is true. However, you still have to take responsibility and personal power over your life. And that starts within your own head. Who leads your life? Who makes your decisions for what directions you will go? Who decides what you wear, what you watch, what you listen to, where you go, what you eat, who your friends are, what you will do with your life? The answer to all of those questions SHOULD be YOU.
Also, I know you said about logistics in closing doesnt matter. Which is true based on arrousing the girl and pulling back.
Nope, based on arrousing, spiking her BT. Pulling back is just to calibrate and raise the BT more.
I just fucking wonder I am going to have to experiment closing women to the motel , i might have to frame it as "an adventure we both want" and spiking her BT by usisng positive framing how spontaneous and adventurous we can both be.
Yes, it ALL depends on the frame which YOU set with the girl.
CJ says :
. Ask her “What’s on the agenda for later?”
This one needs some explaining. A lot of PUAs think this is about Logistics. It isn’t. In fact, Logistics aren’t nearly as important as everyone believes. Shocking? Not really
Do you think that’d change things a bit?
Logistics matter LESS and LESS the more interested and turned on she is… I used to let logistics derail me. Now, I hardly even pay attention.
Can they fuck you up? Sure. They used to fuck me up all the time. Then, I discovered “Drunk-n-Lonely Texting.”
Focus on getting her to really, really see you as a liberator of her sexual frustrations and SHE will handle the logistics for you.
The purpose of the question is to establish in her mind that you have probably sexual intent AND you are seeking a way to create an opportunity.
comments :
TheWolfHowls - pay attention. This is exactly how I feel about the whole logistic deal, as you know. Like I said before, if you keep thinking in this logistic frame of mind, you are most likely creating barriers that didn't exist in the first place.
As for the rest of the post, it's not that I really disagree with what he is saying, but I hate the way it is presented. But you all already knew that
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Its just to much stuff to remember, these logistics only cloud the mind with unnecessary do do!
What most guys dont realize is its really simple! There is no need to over complicate things, with step by step scenario guides..
Wow.. This post was a total head fuck.. I need a glass of water
When its time to close and she seems horny and have sex its usually not at the seduction location.
Than when I am thinking about taking her to a place like to enter the motel, she freaks out and gets major LMR.
I cant take her to my place cause Im temporaily sharing it with someone while school starts again for me to move out on my own.
Also I tried in the car but it isnt comfortable at all.
in the past I never got LMR like this but its predictable a girl would get freaked out when she enters a motel and starts feeling like a slut.
last girls didnt care about motel they were really horny and I just took them.
but Im now finding that a problem when I have made out and touched her sexually and she is turned on and it isnt at the seduction location.
She gets honry or throws sexualinnuendo at me and is horny and cant figure what to do .....and if we driving somewhere and I drive in to motel.
Its kindah funny but frustrating......
I'd like to ask any experienced guys out there who have had to deal with such problem.
once I move out , and get girls to my place would be smoother pickup.
Im encountering this issues cause in the past if I let it pass and leave it for a date, her attraction dissapates and i dont hear from girls...So I decided once its on and they get all sexual then I should go for the Fast seduction.
any insight would help thanks.-
PS: I'm probably not keeping her sexually aroused on the drive to the motel.
#2 (permalink) 12-01-2010, 09:54 AM
Jesse Charger
Forum Administrator
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 640
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The only perfect solution to this is to get your own place.
One solution: you pull her into your car and just finger her or do oral sex. And then the NEXT time you meet up with her, pull her to a cheap motel. She'll be cool with it by then. It does add extra steps.
Or just don't tell her where you're going, just say "Let's Go". When you get to the motel, tell her that you LIVE in the motel temporarily because you're moving just to get her inside the door. That's just BS to turn off her objections. She'll see once you get inside that you're not living there, but at least you're inside.
---------------------------------------------------------------
I noiced doc holliday uses the bathrroom and I treid that and it doesnt work at times, most consistent is your place ala janka.
Adam lyons posted a video and he mentioned changin plans and watching a movie pull....
but only time I had work is when girl was already attracted...I remeber HB susan saradon FB, who told me she wanted to go somewhere with me provate, we did it in a hotel. also the black girl in DR , I picked her up due to safety and I dorve around abit and bought her beer we talk for 15 minutes and drove to motel and she fucked me.
so these scenarios are possible...just have to lead and pump her state.
LA Tripp pointed out :
Good. I know society would have you think escalation is creepy, but it's only creepy if you do it in a creepy way. Escalation is normal and life won't progress without it ;)
i think alot of sticking points in my head would clear out once I move the fuck out.
Yes, moving out will help a lot, this is true. However, you still have to take responsibility and personal power over your life. And that starts within your own head. Who leads your life? Who makes your decisions for what directions you will go? Who decides what you wear, what you watch, what you listen to, where you go, what you eat, who your friends are, what you will do with your life? The answer to all of those questions SHOULD be YOU.
Also, I know you said about logistics in closing doesnt matter. Which is true based on arrousing the girl and pulling back.
Nope, based on arrousing, spiking her BT. Pulling back is just to calibrate and raise the BT more.
I just fucking wonder I am going to have to experiment closing women to the motel , i might have to frame it as "an adventure we both want" and spiking her BT by usisng positive framing how spontaneous and adventurous we can both be.
Yes, it ALL depends on the frame which YOU set with the girl.
CJ says :
. Ask her “What’s on the agenda for later?”
This one needs some explaining. A lot of PUAs think this is about Logistics. It isn’t. In fact, Logistics aren’t nearly as important as everyone believes. Shocking? Not really
Do you think that’d change things a bit?
Logistics matter LESS and LESS the more interested and turned on she is… I used to let logistics derail me. Now, I hardly even pay attention.
Can they fuck you up? Sure. They used to fuck me up all the time. Then, I discovered “Drunk-n-Lonely Texting.”
Focus on getting her to really, really see you as a liberator of her sexual frustrations and SHE will handle the logistics for you.
The purpose of the question is to establish in her mind that you have probably sexual intent AND you are seeking a way to create an opportunity.
comments :
TheWolfHowls - pay attention. This is exactly how I feel about the whole logistic deal, as you know. Like I said before, if you keep thinking in this logistic frame of mind, you are most likely creating barriers that didn't exist in the first place.
As for the rest of the post, it's not that I really disagree with what he is saying, but I hate the way it is presented. But you all already knew that
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09-30-2010 09:00 AM #3 flight23
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Its just to much stuff to remember, these logistics only cloud the mind with unnecessary do do!
What most guys dont realize is its really simple! There is no need to over complicate things, with step by step scenario guides..
Wow.. This post was a total head fuck.. I need a glass of water
Wednesday, September 1, 2010
how to calibrate sexual escalation on the girl
I think the tittle is abit misleading but in reality it has to do with your style of game.
I have friends and Ive started with learning and we still have different game,shows you that you have to be yourself to make game work. i know it sounds like shit but lets get back to topic.
I have closed different types of girls and until you have a setback or achallenge you wont realize how valuable it is to know how to go sexual.
there are great posts and books to show you this...
Id say you have to figure it out based on yours style of game, your plan to have her with her if its a date and what type fo girl she is, how her state is at that moment.
All what I just mentioned equal to success my friends.
to calibrate it is to know when an how to do it.
here is what tripp says:
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-Well, logistics aren't key, but sexual tension is. Logistics play a bigger role the lower her BT is.
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Im having this issue.
When its time to close and have sex when I am about to enter the motel, she freaks out and gets major LMR.
I cant take her to my place cause Im temporaily sharing it with someone while school starts again for me to move the fuck out on my own.
Also I tried in the car but it isnt comfortable at all.
in the past I never got LMR like this but its predictable a girl would get freaked out when she enters a motel and starts feeling like a slut.
last girls didnt care about motel they were really horny and I just took them.
but Im now finding that a problem when I have made out and touched her sexually and she is turned on and then we driving somewhere and I drive in to motel.
Its kindah funny but fucking frustrating......
I'd like to ask any experienced guys out there who have had to deal with such problem.
once I move the fuck out , and get girls to my place would be smoother pickup.
any insight would help thanks.-
PS:
I'm probably not keeping her sexually aroused on the drive to the motel.
L.A. Tripp
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Age: 37
Location: Evansville, IN
Points: 1442
Reputation: 12
Registration date: 2008-03-14
Subject: Re: CLOSING outside of your place, I have a problem Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:15 pm
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-Is it just this one girl that has given you this problem, or is it multiple girls?
You say last girls didn't care and you just took them.
Also, is it uncomfortable for YOU to take them in your truck? Or for them?
_________________
http://tripp-author.weebly.com for my new book!
http://latripp.blogspot.com/
www.latripp.weebly.com
Alpha: "Come here, now."
AFC: "Would you mind coming here please, if it's not too much trouble?"
You have one shot, and it's in the first 3 seconds.
Make her qualify herself to YOU.
Don't back down from the girl. CHALLENGE her!
sandros
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Age: 32
Location: miami
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Registration date: 2009-11-23
Subject: Re: CLOSING outside of your place, I have a problem Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:38 am
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L.A. Tripp wrote:
Is it just this one girl that has given you this problem, or is it multiple girls?
Only her . I think its ASD, I have some fault caus eI might have not calibrated the escalation by arousing her enough and after the long date I took her to motel and she was hesitant and talking nonsense how she takes a while to trust somoene to get intimate and seriosuly taking all into logic.
i think that when it came time for me to get off the car and get the room , gave her a chance for her ASD to hit turbo.- I have to see if the car pull could work with someother women. in the past it was easy to use plausible deniability to pull a girl to yourplace and in 20 minutes she was naked having sex. Now its like Logistics plus Momentum of sexual tension are KEY in any Pull.
You say last girls didn't care and you just took them.
before Game I do recall picking up a girl walking in a bad neighbourhood and getting her to my car and after 10 minutes or so of talking casually , no deep comfort just superficial stuff, no bt spiking either.. i suggest to go somewhere private and we went to a motel and she was horny about it....dropped her off and we never talked again...when I stopped by weeks later I saw her with a man and she saw my car and she smiled at me infront of him but nothing happened, I left it at that.
Also, is it uncomfortable for YOU to take them in your truck? Or for them?
well its kindah for me... I think i could get a BJ...I mean it could work, never tried it...it could escalate into then transitioning to motel after car.
sexual technique of whatever isnt really car possible, I think its because I was in dominican republic once and the girl I was with had her pants down and sucking my dick in a dark alley and the cops showed up.....anywyas I had to pay the cops money..only in a 3rd world country and the girl was pissed at me, I dont know dude. It be fucked up if that happend to me here in the US.
L.A. Tripp
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Number of posts: 4531
Age: 37
Location: Evansville, IN
Points: 1442
Reputation: 12
Registration date: 2008-03-14
Subject: Re: CLOSING outside of your place, I have a problem Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:58 am
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-Well, logistics aren't key, but sexual tension is. Logistics play a bigger role the lower her BT is.
Since it's just this one girl, don't sweat it. Just friend zone her, hang out with her, see who she knows, etc.
The whole cop thing, lol, damn. Well, I've had a security guard catch me, but that's because he was seriously watching me, TRYING to catch me. But again, that's in your head and you're ALLOWING IT to fuck with your mind. So, once again, YOU have to exert control over that and stop letting it mess with you.
_________________
http://tripp-author.weebly.com for my new book!
http://latripp.blogspot.com/
www.latripp.weebly.com
Alpha: "Come here, now."
AFC: "Would you mind coming here please, if it's not too much trouble?"
You have one shot, and it's in the first 3 seconds.
Make her qualify herself to YOU.
Don't back down from the girl. CHALLENGE her!
I have friends and Ive started with learning and we still have different game,shows you that you have to be yourself to make game work. i know it sounds like shit but lets get back to topic.
I have closed different types of girls and until you have a setback or achallenge you wont realize how valuable it is to know how to go sexual.
there are great posts and books to show you this...
Id say you have to figure it out based on yours style of game, your plan to have her with her if its a date and what type fo girl she is, how her state is at that moment.
All what I just mentioned equal to success my friends.
to calibrate it is to know when an how to do it.
here is what tripp says:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
+
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-Well, logistics aren't key, but sexual tension is. Logistics play a bigger role the lower her BT is.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Im having this issue.
When its time to close and have sex when I am about to enter the motel, she freaks out and gets major LMR.
I cant take her to my place cause Im temporaily sharing it with someone while school starts again for me to move the fuck out on my own.
Also I tried in the car but it isnt comfortable at all.
in the past I never got LMR like this but its predictable a girl would get freaked out when she enters a motel and starts feeling like a slut.
last girls didnt care about motel they were really horny and I just took them.
but Im now finding that a problem when I have made out and touched her sexually and she is turned on and then we driving somewhere and I drive in to motel.
Its kindah funny but fucking frustrating......
I'd like to ask any experienced guys out there who have had to deal with such problem.
once I move the fuck out , and get girls to my place would be smoother pickup.
any insight would help thanks.-
PS:
I'm probably not keeping her sexually aroused on the drive to the motel.
L.A. Tripp
Admin
Number of posts: 4531
Age: 37
Location: Evansville, IN
Points: 1442
Reputation: 12
Registration date: 2008-03-14
Subject: Re: CLOSING outside of your place, I have a problem Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:15 pm
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-Is it just this one girl that has given you this problem, or is it multiple girls?
You say last girls didn't care and you just took them.
Also, is it uncomfortable for YOU to take them in your truck? Or for them?
_________________
http://tripp-author.weebly.com for my new book!
http://latripp.blogspot.com/
www.latripp.weebly.com
Alpha: "Come here, now."
AFC: "Would you mind coming here please, if it's not too much trouble?"
You have one shot, and it's in the first 3 seconds.
Make her qualify herself to YOU.
Don't back down from the girl. CHALLENGE her!
sandros
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Number of posts: 26
Age: 32
Location: miami
Points: 36
Reputation: 0
Registration date: 2009-11-23
Subject: Re: CLOSING outside of your place, I have a problem Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:38 am
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L.A. Tripp wrote:
Is it just this one girl that has given you this problem, or is it multiple girls?
Only her . I think its ASD, I have some fault caus eI might have not calibrated the escalation by arousing her enough and after the long date I took her to motel and she was hesitant and talking nonsense how she takes a while to trust somoene to get intimate and seriosuly taking all into logic.
i think that when it came time for me to get off the car and get the room , gave her a chance for her ASD to hit turbo.- I have to see if the car pull could work with someother women. in the past it was easy to use plausible deniability to pull a girl to yourplace and in 20 minutes she was naked having sex. Now its like Logistics plus Momentum of sexual tension are KEY in any Pull.
You say last girls didn't care and you just took them.
before Game I do recall picking up a girl walking in a bad neighbourhood and getting her to my car and after 10 minutes or so of talking casually , no deep comfort just superficial stuff, no bt spiking either.. i suggest to go somewhere private and we went to a motel and she was horny about it....dropped her off and we never talked again...when I stopped by weeks later I saw her with a man and she saw my car and she smiled at me infront of him but nothing happened, I left it at that.
Also, is it uncomfortable for YOU to take them in your truck? Or for them?
well its kindah for me... I think i could get a BJ...I mean it could work, never tried it...it could escalate into then transitioning to motel after car.
sexual technique of whatever isnt really car possible, I think its because I was in dominican republic once and the girl I was with had her pants down and sucking my dick in a dark alley and the cops showed up.....anywyas I had to pay the cops money..only in a 3rd world country and the girl was pissed at me, I dont know dude. It be fucked up if that happend to me here in the US.
L.A. Tripp
Admin
Number of posts: 4531
Age: 37
Location: Evansville, IN
Points: 1442
Reputation: 12
Registration date: 2008-03-14
Subject: Re: CLOSING outside of your place, I have a problem Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:58 am
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-Well, logistics aren't key, but sexual tension is. Logistics play a bigger role the lower her BT is.
Since it's just this one girl, don't sweat it. Just friend zone her, hang out with her, see who she knows, etc.
The whole cop thing, lol, damn. Well, I've had a security guard catch me, but that's because he was seriously watching me, TRYING to catch me. But again, that's in your head and you're ALLOWING IT to fuck with your mind. So, once again, YOU have to exert control over that and stop letting it mess with you.
_________________
http://tripp-author.weebly.com for my new book!
http://latripp.blogspot.com/
www.latripp.weebly.com
Alpha: "Come here, now."
AFC: "Would you mind coming here please, if it's not too much trouble?"
You have one shot, and it's in the first 3 seconds.
Make her qualify herself to YOU.
Don't back down from the girl. CHALLENGE her!
Thursday, April 22, 2010
tripp feedback review of sticking points
I talked with Tripp and the guy is expert.
I recommend him for any sticking points.
he help me modify my game to the present,
very realisitc.....great fucking coach.
1- ideas to pull cause im temporarily
living w parents house.as iam working on getting back to dental
school. I pulled easily b4 miami but now different.any suggtions so it
doesnt look like mamas boy.lol. Or whatever comes in mind you d
suggest.
dont talk about that part of yourself get her crazy attracted to a point of not caring.
2- girls in group alpha girl shit test me by cockblocking
'hey no guys tonite, its ladies night' eventhough friend is into me.
shrug and not care, unaffected use her social proof and warm approach the target by eye contact and bodylanguage takeaways. then gaze a bit and try to re open her.it a waste of time and try not to be rude.be socially intelligent.
3- i hesitate when things are going good in set.or get a positive
response from a girl. What your mindset.
HAVE NO EXPECTATION OF OUTCOME, NOT CARE.
FOCUS ON LISTENING AND MOVING FORWARD
4- I caught myself
overexplaing and repeating myself in set.girl gets bored fast drifts
away. Or as im running rapport i validate her point of view and then
she turns bodylanguage and ends convo. What you suggst?
try to hook her attention,by tease or creating tension by push pull,
either way just do it at least for practice, stop overthinking when you are there just do it, overanalyze it after.see opportubity you go forward, thats the KEY TAKING THE FIRST STEP
try to make stories like Entropy excersize 3 sentence.
try getting her invested in convo as ADAM LYONS teaches.
5- Flakes and not caring, I get a flake and get reactive that I should teach her a lesson...
WRONG! be the ghost in the airplane show you dont care how she behaves wildly but make her react towards you in the process of seduction.mindset is either way its not a big deal and never take it personal.
6- calibration , keeping calibration.
going out warming up talking to people, building comfort w females will help.
I recommend him for any sticking points.
he help me modify my game to the present,
very realisitc.....great fucking coach.
1- ideas to pull cause im temporarily
living w parents house.as iam working on getting back to dental
school. I pulled easily b4 miami but now different.any suggtions so it
doesnt look like mamas boy.lol. Or whatever comes in mind you d
suggest.
dont talk about that part of yourself get her crazy attracted to a point of not caring.
2- girls in group alpha girl shit test me by cockblocking
'hey no guys tonite, its ladies night' eventhough friend is into me.
shrug and not care, unaffected use her social proof and warm approach the target by eye contact and bodylanguage takeaways. then gaze a bit and try to re open her.it a waste of time and try not to be rude.be socially intelligent.
3- i hesitate when things are going good in set.or get a positive
response from a girl. What your mindset.
HAVE NO EXPECTATION OF OUTCOME, NOT CARE.
FOCUS ON LISTENING AND MOVING FORWARD
4- I caught myself
overexplaing and repeating myself in set.girl gets bored fast drifts
away. Or as im running rapport i validate her point of view and then
she turns bodylanguage and ends convo. What you suggst?
try to hook her attention,by tease or creating tension by push pull,
either way just do it at least for practice, stop overthinking when you are there just do it, overanalyze it after.see opportubity you go forward, thats the KEY TAKING THE FIRST STEP
try to make stories like Entropy excersize 3 sentence.
try getting her invested in convo as ADAM LYONS teaches.
5- Flakes and not caring, I get a flake and get reactive that I should teach her a lesson...
WRONG! be the ghost in the airplane show you dont care how she behaves wildly but make her react towards you in the process of seduction.mindset is either way its not a big deal and never take it personal.
6- calibration , keeping calibration.
going out warming up talking to people, building comfort w females will help.
Wednesday, March 31, 2010
LA TRIPP's awesome post on self esteem
La tripp is someone I met through Jsmooth,
guy is really cool and coahes as well...
Where I came from
Author Message
L.A. Tripp
Subject: Where I came from Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:40 am
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When I got into this game, I came in as a married man who got sex literally every day.
Guys ask me all the time if it truly is a mindset that we need to have when in the field.
My response, "yes it is."
Then I tend to be countered with, "well, you have choices, so of course your mindset is one of abundance."
Guess what, I technically had abundance the first night I entered the field. Yet, I still entered just like every other AFC out there. I didn't know how to approach women, how to build attraction or comfort, how to seduce. I didn't know how to even number close.
"But you were married. You had obviously done all of that already, so why didn't you know?"
You know what? I was married twice before as well, with kids. So, obviously I had done the entire process multiple times. Doesn't matter. I still entered like every other AFC out there. This means, it truly IS a mindset.
I went out with the thinking that I couldn't get any, that I had no options, etc. After a while in the field, like a couple of months, I started realizing something. Although I wasn't attracting any new girls in the field, I had someone at home waiting for me. I was getting laid regardless. It was around this time I finally got my first number and kiss close in the same night. That same girl ended up being my first fuck close after getting into PUA. I still have contact with that girl today, actually. She had even joined me and my wife in the bedroom.
You don't need to know all those details though. Here's the point, it truly is a mindset. You can have options, yet go through your daily life thinking you don't have any options, and you'll display the traits of being needy, clingy, etc, just like every other AFC. Or, you can realize and understand that you DO have options, even if you DON'T have a woman waiting in your bed right at that moment. The fact is, there are tons of women everywhere, available women. And, many of these women are looking for relationships, many are looking for no commitments, etc. You have them, literally, all around you. For your picking, if you wanna think of it that way.
If I can go out and think that I can't get any . . . when someone is at home waiting for me . . . then you can do the same thing, and it's a mistake. Change your mindset, and you'll change your outcome.
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Alpha: "Come here, now."
AFC: "Would you mind coming here please, if it's not too much trouble?"
You have one shot, and it's in the first 3 seconds.
Make her qualify herself to YOU.
Don't back down from the girl. CHALLENGE her!
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Where I came from
Author Message
L.A. Tripp
Subject: Where I came from Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:40 am
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When I got into this game, I came in as a married man who got sex literally every day.
Guys ask me all the time if it truly is a mindset that we need to have when in the field.
My response, "yes it is."
Then I tend to be countered with, "well, you have choices, so of course your mindset is one of abundance."
Guess what, I technically had abundance the first night I entered the field. Yet, I still entered just like every other AFC out there. I didn't know how to approach women, how to build attraction or comfort, how to seduce. I didn't know how to even number close.
"But you were married. You had obviously done all of that already, so why didn't you know?"
You know what? I was married twice before as well, with kids. So, obviously I had done the entire process multiple times. Doesn't matter. I still entered like every other AFC out there. This means, it truly IS a mindset.
I went out with the thinking that I couldn't get any, that I had no options, etc. After a while in the field, like a couple of months, I started realizing something. Although I wasn't attracting any new girls in the field, I had someone at home waiting for me. I was getting laid regardless. It was around this time I finally got my first number and kiss close in the same night. That same girl ended up being my first fuck close after getting into PUA. I still have contact with that girl today, actually. She had even joined me and my wife in the bedroom.
You don't need to know all those details though. Here's the point, it truly is a mindset. You can have options, yet go through your daily life thinking you don't have any options, and you'll display the traits of being needy, clingy, etc, just like every other AFC. Or, you can realize and understand that you DO have options, even if you DON'T have a woman waiting in your bed right at that moment. The fact is, there are tons of women everywhere, available women. And, many of these women are looking for relationships, many are looking for no commitments, etc. You have them, literally, all around you. For your picking, if you wanna think of it that way.
If I can go out and think that I can't get any . . . when someone is at home waiting for me . . . then you can do the same thing, and it's a mistake. Change your mindset, and you'll change your outcome.
_________________
Kick your summer off right at Panama City Beach! Attend my next workshop!
http://latripp.blogspot.com/
www.latripp.weebly.com
Alpha: "Come here, now."
AFC: "Would you mind coming here please, if it's not too much trouble?"
You have one shot, and it's in the first 3 seconds.
Make her qualify herself to YOU.
Don't back down from the girl. CHALLENGE her!
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