I think franctionation fucks me up and makes pickup harder on myself in the middle of comfort qualification.
cause I have to re engage her.they come back more aggressive stripper wanting a dance, fiending for money.
here in miami girls dance and then make rounds ask everybody in the club for tips if you dont tip they scream at you and give you an attitude to stay home.
My response was "I didnt see you dance" or "you arent my type" or
Im unreactive as she is screaming at me she tells me to be cheap to stay home.(latina and black women do this)
set jordanian from chicago
she is 33 yrs old recently moved from chicago ex bf cheated on her and she moved here months ago.
I ran cosmo routine and all and she seemed PRO, I find out she did this since 19 and traveled,
she at end tried to make me a customer to get a dance.
She talked about random shit and I made her talk about herself. it was a battle of topics. she didnt want to talk about herself.
I was talking abot what she likes in a man and shed talk but change topics
She complained about money I send her off she d come back she come as a different person
as if she forgotten all about our conversation
, at the end I told her to meet up outside and she was NO.
I said Laters. she want complying with sexy whisper in my ear cali pimp style.
I think franctionation fucks me up and makes pickup harder on myself cause I have to re engage her.they come back more stripper wanting a dance.I dont know what to say whne they complain about money.
philly noise ring girl
was super cool at start was receptive to Emotions and touching and all
and we were talking about eating afterwards.She agreed , she was feeling attraction and was chillin.
then she told me that she is visitng and that first night stripping in miami and that she travels drives from philly and she is going back tomorrow and she needs to amke money and place is DEAD.
I sent her to make money (fractionate ) there are like 3 chumps
she came back waaay later after her chillin at the bar with her friend (girl from phillly she drove with )
and going to the dressing room an
and she told me that she needed money.and when she came back she said I need you to help me , Im leaving soon
if you can get a dance with me ,
I said I told you im not a customer but lets go get a bite to eat like we planned. you know I dont want nothing from you just you seem cool girl and this conversation we have meeting you is rare thing you know , Cmon lets go eat my treat. :).
she said NO. Im just asking for a last dance cause Im leaving.
help me make money I need, tonoght was a shitty night.
I said nah Im not down with that dance thing Im not typical customer guy who comes in to watch chicks I came here to kill time remember.
No dance then fine,I'm leaving bye.
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I think fractionation in the middle of comfort is fucking me up.
another thing is that I have to get there late as fuck or shift change
its like the game goes smooth they get into it m then when they talk about money issues
I send them off to talk to other guys, they come back a different person.
then its an uphill battle.
they become pushy for a dance and they lie saying that they are being themselves and all
but they get super logical afterwards about money and financial situation sucks.
its like they are desperate for money eventhough its an off night they push hard.
not sure if I should start screening girls from pros and non pros
but this is what happened.
ny suggestions help
Miami is 7-8 times harder than Georgia.
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Wednesday, March 30, 2011
Thursday, March 24, 2011
sara NLP pattern incredible connection email used Topos text and it worked.
Hey Sarah,
I had to ask you …Have you ever felt when… you instantly met someone …
you felt attracted to when you first met ? ..
And You knew that you were going to like and trust this person for a long time?
Eventhough you knew each other for a short while …but it seemed like you known this person your.. whole life…
Like you felt a special connection with that person you just met.
When we first met ... I felt a chemistry between us.
I wouldnt be contacting you if this wasnt true for me .
So ofcourse I want to see you again , eventhough you are such a BAD girl ; )
... but even if we don't , you're awesome and I want us to be friends.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
when was last time you were fascinated someone? you know that feeling.
you that feeling that you liked him, you know that feeling that feeling that ITS ON..?
you know that feeling? what that what it was like?
REALLY cause intereting my friend was saying
mind needs a way telling which feelings what you really want and.think about what you may or may not do
,if you could put youreself back there whats that FIRST feeling on the inside that let you knew
MMMmmmm (craving juicy horny lick your lips,)
you wanted to create an openning for this guy
you could feel your opening .............on a very speacial way
that you felt this excitement and maybe even put your finger on the source of this excitement
you knew you wanted to , what was that feeling?
touch her face.
you seem like a fun girl right you like to enjoy opening yourself. right
do you model or into acting? wow cause i totally see you doing something now , you know how guys are right' ;)
how about you say something fun like . like
"hi guys Im ___, hope you like me, have a good day"
nice...you sound sexy now say it like you mean it you can be a wild fun girl for abit right/
"hey guys Im __ , Im BAD naughty georgia girl"
Its like there different part you want to reach out and touch tonight.
openings and nude errections.
I CONTROL MY ENERGY GOES!!!!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Even though you may or may not anticipate meeting that special someone
someday, it's certainly not necessary for you to feel incredible
attracted to someone you just met. You really shouldn't do that,
powerfully. But imagine what it would be like if you were to feel an
overwhelming and growing attraction to someone you thought you hardly
knew(point) but then you suddenly realize for whatever mysterious
reason, that this person seems like someone you have always known to the
point where you feel deep inside that this person is just right for you
and you get that warm comfortable feeling right in there such that as
you begin to feel so turned on you are feeling it in that . . oooooo
special way where you start to imagine yourself with him, really
enjoying each other in a way two people who feel really connected and
sharing together in that special way can really want to enjoy the other.
Me, I find that is something you just don't feel it right away but if
you could imagine what it would be like, you might understand how
someone you care about could go have that experience. Without any pause,
you can go wild with it and your mine.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Did you ever instantly now you were going to like and trust someone for
a long, long time? Maybe you only knew them for a short while but it
seemed that you had known them your whole life, as if there was a
timeless connection between you and them? I'm wondering as you are
listen so carefully, if you can remember the feeling of that, and just
how wonderful it was because sometimes life has a way of making us
remember those things, right prior to discovering that we can experience
those feelings again with someone. Me well, I don't think that kind of
thing can be forced. No essay or words or can allow that to happen
_____ but as you begin to recognize now how much you want to be with
someone who is so good for you
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Did you ever . . instantly know you were going to like and trust someone
for a long, long time? (pt). Like maybe even though you only knew them
for a short while . . it seemed like you had known them your whole
life, as if there were this timeless connection between you and them
(her to you). I mean, you know that feeling of incredible bonding,
when all barriers just drop away and melt and you just feel totally
comfortable and at ease with them (pt). And its like maybe you were
even able to
----------------------------------------------------------
I have an intuition about you (I know something about you). When you
really FEEL THAT CONNECTION WITH SOMEONE. You know that mysterious,
timeless link that just makes you feel like you've known someone forever
... like you were meant to know them ... and it's almost like YOU'RE
LOOKING RIGHT AT YOUR FUTURE .. like YOUR FUTURE IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF
YOU ... when you FEEL THAT .. it all starts out as an actually physical
click ... a tug that takes place right THERE (Slowly bring your hand
down and touch her in the solar plexus). Can you FEEL THAT (squeeze her
hand with your free hand) is maybe how that can happen.. NOW ... WITH
ME .. I just find that's such a great feeling. What I find really
interesting is .. what can happen is when you FEEL THAT CONNECTION, that
warm, safe and comfortable feeling right there,
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Hey, did you ever meet someone and just instantly know that you had to
get to know this person better? (point) Maybe as you went inside and
really got all excited about how much fun it'd be to get to know them
and how curious and intrigued you were feeling ... AS YOU REMEMBER THOSE
FEELINGS AS WE'RE TALKING, I'm just curious, do you first imagine how
much fun they'd be to hang out with, and then get intrigue, or do you
get intrigued first and then imagine how much fun this person would be
-------------------------------------------------------
what happens is you spend some time with this person and then you
go home and you then you picture this person and your mine, in that
special place and you mine, where you keep people you care deeply for.
And then what you do is you start to imagine being with this person in
different situations and in all sorts of different ways like maybe
introducing him to your friends or having all sorts of fun and
interesting adventures together.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
SOULMATE
You know, how you can have thoughts that you cause you to feel
fascination ______. Like, I was thinking about how, for many people
falling in love can sometimes take months. But have you ever thought
about what it would be like for you to fall in love instantaneously
where you feel like you were talking to your soulmate(point). I mean,
Imagine there being someone who was selected for you, picked out long
before you were born. I mean if you were to feel that way, now.. I
think you may be surprised to find yourself beginning to almost feel
magically enchanted; and you might find yourself wanting to be with this
person in a very special way _____. Because, when a person feels they
have met there soulmate like when you imagine this person being your
dream lover(pt), I think you would feel a mysterious yet powerful
loving connection taking place
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Have you ever been attracted to someone who wasn't even your type
physically. Like I have this friend Nancy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I had to ask you …Have you ever felt when… you instantly met someone …
you felt attracted to when you first met ? ..
And You knew that you were going to like and trust this person for a long time?
Eventhough you knew each other for a short while …but it seemed like you known this person your.. whole life…
Like you felt a special connection with that person you just met.
When we first met ... I felt a chemistry between us.
I wouldnt be contacting you if this wasnt true for me .
So ofcourse I want to see you again , eventhough you are such a BAD girl ; )
... but even if we don't , you're awesome and I want us to be friends.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
when was last time you were fascinated someone? you know that feeling.
you that feeling that you liked him, you know that feeling that feeling that ITS ON..?
you know that feeling? what that what it was like?
REALLY cause intereting my friend was saying
mind needs a way telling which feelings what you really want and.think about what you may or may not do
,if you could put youreself back there whats that FIRST feeling on the inside that let you knew
MMMmmmm (craving juicy horny lick your lips,)
you wanted to create an openning for this guy
you could feel your opening .............on a very speacial way
that you felt this excitement and maybe even put your finger on the source of this excitement
you knew you wanted to , what was that feeling?
touch her face.
you seem like a fun girl right you like to enjoy opening yourself. right
do you model or into acting? wow cause i totally see you doing something now , you know how guys are right' ;)
how about you say something fun like . like
"hi guys Im ___, hope you like me, have a good day"
nice...you sound sexy now say it like you mean it you can be a wild fun girl for abit right/
"hey guys Im __ , Im BAD naughty georgia girl"
Its like there different part you want to reach out and touch tonight.
openings and nude errections.
I CONTROL MY ENERGY GOES!!!!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Even though you may or may not anticipate meeting that special someone
someday, it's certainly not necessary for you to feel incredible
attracted to someone you just met. You really shouldn't do that,
powerfully. But imagine what it would be like if you were to feel an
overwhelming and growing attraction to someone you thought you hardly
knew(point) but then you suddenly realize for whatever mysterious
reason, that this person seems like someone you have always known to the
point where you feel deep inside that this person is just right for you
and you get that warm comfortable feeling right in there such that as
you begin to feel so turned on you are feeling it in that . . oooooo
special way where you start to imagine yourself with him, really
enjoying each other in a way two people who feel really connected and
sharing together in that special way can really want to enjoy the other.
Me, I find that is something you just don't feel it right away but if
you could imagine what it would be like, you might understand how
someone you care about could go have that experience. Without any pause,
you can go wild with it and your mine.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Did you ever instantly now you were going to like and trust someone for
a long, long time? Maybe you only knew them for a short while but it
seemed that you had known them your whole life, as if there was a
timeless connection between you and them? I'm wondering as you are
listen so carefully, if you can remember the feeling of that, and just
how wonderful it was because sometimes life has a way of making us
remember those things, right prior to discovering that we can experience
those feelings again with someone. Me well, I don't think that kind of
thing can be forced. No essay or words or can allow that to happen
_____ but as you begin to recognize now how much you want to be with
someone who is so good for you
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Did you ever . . instantly know you were going to like and trust someone
for a long, long time? (pt). Like maybe even though you only knew them
for a short while . . it seemed like you had known them your whole
life, as if there were this timeless connection between you and them
(her to you). I mean, you know that feeling of incredible bonding,
when all barriers just drop away and melt and you just feel totally
comfortable and at ease with them (pt). And its like maybe you were
even able to
----------------------------------------------------------
I have an intuition about you (I know something about you). When you
really FEEL THAT CONNECTION WITH SOMEONE. You know that mysterious,
timeless link that just makes you feel like you've known someone forever
... like you were meant to know them ... and it's almost like YOU'RE
LOOKING RIGHT AT YOUR FUTURE .. like YOUR FUTURE IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF
YOU ... when you FEEL THAT .. it all starts out as an actually physical
click ... a tug that takes place right THERE (Slowly bring your hand
down and touch her in the solar plexus). Can you FEEL THAT (squeeze her
hand with your free hand) is maybe how that can happen.. NOW ... WITH
ME .. I just find that's such a great feeling. What I find really
interesting is .. what can happen is when you FEEL THAT CONNECTION, that
warm, safe and comfortable feeling right there,
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Hey, did you ever meet someone and just instantly know that you had to
get to know this person better? (point) Maybe as you went inside and
really got all excited about how much fun it'd be to get to know them
and how curious and intrigued you were feeling ... AS YOU REMEMBER THOSE
FEELINGS AS WE'RE TALKING, I'm just curious, do you first imagine how
much fun they'd be to hang out with, and then get intrigue, or do you
get intrigued first and then imagine how much fun this person would be
-------------------------------------------------------
what happens is you spend some time with this person and then you
go home and you then you picture this person and your mine, in that
special place and you mine, where you keep people you care deeply for.
And then what you do is you start to imagine being with this person in
different situations and in all sorts of different ways like maybe
introducing him to your friends or having all sorts of fun and
interesting adventures together.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
SOULMATE
You know, how you can have thoughts that you cause you to feel
fascination ______. Like, I was thinking about how, for many people
falling in love can sometimes take months. But have you ever thought
about what it would be like for you to fall in love instantaneously
where you feel like you were talking to your soulmate(point). I mean,
Imagine there being someone who was selected for you, picked out long
before you were born. I mean if you were to feel that way, now.. I
think you may be surprised to find yourself beginning to almost feel
magically enchanted; and you might find yourself wanting to be with this
person in a very special way _____. Because, when a person feels they
have met there soulmate like when you imagine this person being your
dream lover(pt), I think you would feel a mysterious yet powerful
loving connection taking place
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Have you ever been attracted to someone who wasn't even your type
physically. Like I have this friend Nancy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Monday, February 28, 2011
old topo post on sexual ladder for redstack
So this last week has been crazy.
I really don't know where to start...I just spent the last 4 nights in a row with
the On The Mat guys (onthemat.com) living the dream (so to speak).
It was UFC 94 with Algasim, Soco, Jtime, and the OTM guys and then complete chaos!
The big problem that I see with community guys, non-community guys, naturals is they don't go sexual.
theREDstack solves that.
I can't stress it enough,
IF YOU DON'T GET SEXUAL RIGHT AWAY, YOU'RE WASTING TIME!
I can't tell you how many times I see guys out there with a hot girl next to them and they are afraid to talk to them.
Then I see PUAs out there talking to a hot ass chick and walking away with just some stupid attraction tricks and maybe some rapport.
Let's get it straight guys...
Women like sex...just as much as us, they just see it different.
theREDstack and the Mentor Program will get you there.
Think of going sexual as touching right from the start. If you don't do it, then the ANXIETY of being Sexual builds, you'll never know how to do it!
Jtime and Algasim pretty much are familiar with me doing this and have evolved their own theories on it too. So this weekend we actually recorded a lot of audio about all this stuff.
On Sat we did a Skype interview with FreeSpirit in England that explains some of this that will be released here in the next month.
Here is something that Algasm and I were talking about on the call...we were talking about running sexual ladders.
We came up with a bunch that would run up sexuality right from the start.
Now this is pretty much what theREDstackdoes...but with the stack there is about 60 plus pages of CUSTOM MATERIAL!
But here is a sample of one of those sexual ladders that I wanted to share with you!
Opener-
Hey guys, what is something that you think is different about men and women?
(they think or try an answer)
Ok so here is the thing...
(bait with a qualifier you can frame off of)
Wait you guys aren't the types of girls that might freak-out about stuff right away right?
(wait for them to comply, then qualify them into not being judgmental)
Ok, first let me ask.... (target) you, how old are you?
(they answer)
Oh, I can't ask you, you won't get it.
(they will push back at this, so now make them qualify themselves in the way that you want them to be...in this case sexual)
So alright have you actually had a long term relationship?
(she will probably say "yes")
Ok, but you're totally the girl that can really keep a guy at first, like you're really good in bed and all that stuff, but it always dies off, really quickly...
(this is a cold read, plus every woman is afraid that she can't maintain attraction with a guy. So wait for her reply and continue on)
So that right there is the difference between men and women...
Come here for a second...
(no need to isolate, majorly, just make it so you are only talking to her)
Ok so I got to know...how old were you when you lost your virginity?
(most girls say 14-15, just a tip for some cold reads later, but let her answer)
Ok so you know what, I can tell you haven't had good sex yet.
(if she says she has then recover by saying, "But it took a long time for you to start having it")
Here is the thing though, most guys, just don't know how to be totally crazy with you.
Most guys don't know how to treat you like a woman.
If you are interested in theREDstack, SHOOT ME an EMAIL and I would love to talk with you about it. It is literally the best thing out there and NOBODY else out there can do!
So pretty much there is a lot of theory that I can put into that, but for the most part, work that something like that, and see how easily women open up to it.
A lot of Audio and Video on the Way! Keep your eyes peeled on my BLOG!
Talk to you soon...
I there will be more!
I really don't know where to start...I just spent the last 4 nights in a row with
the On The Mat guys (onthemat.com) living the dream (so to speak).
It was UFC 94 with Algasim, Soco, Jtime, and the OTM guys and then complete chaos!
The big problem that I see with community guys, non-community guys, naturals is they don't go sexual.
theREDstack solves that.
I can't stress it enough,
IF YOU DON'T GET SEXUAL RIGHT AWAY, YOU'RE WASTING TIME!
I can't tell you how many times I see guys out there with a hot girl next to them and they are afraid to talk to them.
Then I see PUAs out there talking to a hot ass chick and walking away with just some stupid attraction tricks and maybe some rapport.
Let's get it straight guys...
Women like sex...just as much as us, they just see it different.
theREDstack and the Mentor Program will get you there.
Think of going sexual as touching right from the start. If you don't do it, then the ANXIETY of being Sexual builds, you'll never know how to do it!
Jtime and Algasim pretty much are familiar with me doing this and have evolved their own theories on it too. So this weekend we actually recorded a lot of audio about all this stuff.
On Sat we did a Skype interview with FreeSpirit in England that explains some of this that will be released here in the next month.
Here is something that Algasm and I were talking about on the call...we were talking about running sexual ladders.
We came up with a bunch that would run up sexuality right from the start.
Now this is pretty much what theREDstackdoes...but with the stack there is about 60 plus pages of CUSTOM MATERIAL!
But here is a sample of one of those sexual ladders that I wanted to share with you!
Opener-
Hey guys, what is something that you think is different about men and women?
(they think or try an answer)
Ok so here is the thing...
(bait with a qualifier you can frame off of)
Wait you guys aren't the types of girls that might freak-out about stuff right away right?
(wait for them to comply, then qualify them into not being judgmental)
Ok, first let me ask.... (target) you, how old are you?
(they answer)
Oh, I can't ask you, you won't get it.
(they will push back at this, so now make them qualify themselves in the way that you want them to be...in this case sexual)
So alright have you actually had a long term relationship?
(she will probably say "yes")
Ok, but you're totally the girl that can really keep a guy at first, like you're really good in bed and all that stuff, but it always dies off, really quickly...
(this is a cold read, plus every woman is afraid that she can't maintain attraction with a guy. So wait for her reply and continue on)
So that right there is the difference between men and women...
Come here for a second...
(no need to isolate, majorly, just make it so you are only talking to her)
Ok so I got to know...how old were you when you lost your virginity?
(most girls say 14-15, just a tip for some cold reads later, but let her answer)
Ok so you know what, I can tell you haven't had good sex yet.
(if she says she has then recover by saying, "But it took a long time for you to start having it")
Here is the thing though, most guys, just don't know how to be totally crazy with you.
Most guys don't know how to treat you like a woman.
If you are interested in theREDstack, SHOOT ME an EMAIL and I would love to talk with you about it. It is literally the best thing out there and NOBODY else out there can do!
So pretty much there is a lot of theory that I can put into that, but for the most part, work that something like that, and see how easily women open up to it.
A lot of Audio and Video on the Way! Keep your eyes peeled on my BLOG!
Talk to you soon...
I there will be more!
Sunday, January 23, 2011
Teases and Qualification by El Topo
Lesson 2 – Applications and Initial
Steps for Seduction
Teases and Qualification
So with the last post, I got some emails about qualification.
There were more than a few people that were up in arms about me saying that Qualification was NOT always necessary for achieving rapport.
The truth is that Qualification can lead you to rapport, but I think it would be terribly naive to think that it is the only way to Rapport.
Qualification is a tool of attraction that is trying to make it possible to Transition to Rapport.
This lesson will be about turning your Teases and Negs to move towards seduction and help lay the foundation for seduction and to Qualify towards seduction.
The long-winded theoretical part will be at the bottom, examples first (again all for you MMAPUA)
Email me at
eltopoPUA@gmail.com
with whatever questions
Some Negs/Teases
Let’s start with some easy ones to elicit sex…
-Do you always treat shy church boys like this?
-You know, I bet you are one of those girls that totally gets off on intimidating guys.
-You have a really interesting face… the last girl I knew like that was always getting herself in trouble.
-I can tell you being quite and acting cute is just a front, I bet with your last boyfriend, you were a handful.
-I can tell just from talking to you I can be getting myself into trouble, it is girls like you that always bring out the worst in me.
-You’re gonna make me blush with those (comment on a characteristic of her) of yours, but I don’t want you to do something that might embarrass us here.
For those of you more brazen, you can get away with these pretty easily…just ask Algasim…
-You are one of those girls that is such a tease… I bet you totally pissed off your last guy you met… but you like that type of BS…
-You’re a girl that totally cheats…. No really it is totally cool, if you’re not satisfied, I can understand.
-If you keep talking that way I will have to make you squirt (or treat you like a women, or bend you over right now and take care of business)
-Hey I am just a shy boy, you don’t want to take advantage of me with your dirty mind.
-You’re totally the type of girl that can never live up to how she portrays herself.
-You’re one of those girls that can never get a guy off.
-You are totally one of those girls that gets intimidated by a guy who knows what they’re doing.
-I bet you are really insecure about yourself…like when you have sex do you have it with the lights on or off?
-You’re a really visual person, I bet you really like to watch…
-I bet you’re one of those girls with weird tits once you take off your bra.
-you’re one of those girls that attracts guys that are assholes, but the funny thing is that you’re still sexually frustrated.
-you’re one of those girls that really gets along with older/younger guys, but you actually don’t actually really feel like a woman.
-You’re one of those girls that is really beautiful, but you can’t keep someone attracted.
So with the teases you are really trying to get them to push back at you and assert some dominance over them. With the above the push back is set up to facilitate sexuality, and for them to accept a sexual role or stereotype.
Qualifiers
Now we will move to the qualifiers. Qualifiers will do a few things here. If you look at some of the more aggressive negs and teases, you will notice that they actually have more to do with challenging their identity, this builds more investment, hence making rapport easier to take flight. So with the qualifiers you can really gain some ground. First start thinking of qualifiers as something that allows you to inflict Bait and allows you to lead a topic to talk about. In other words ask questions that lead into a leveraging conversation and have it make them work for their identity. Also there is an element of cold reading that comes into play here too.
Also this is not qualification like the normal hoop theory that DOES work, but it show how to lead with qualification. It is just a little bit of a different take on it all. You see Bait and Cold Reading are pretty good tools to keep in the arsenal too.
Here are some qualifiers that lead into some Bait or begin with some Bait.
End with Bait
So can I ask you something? What is something that you really don’t like about guys you’ve dated?
(doesn’t matter if she answers, continue on)
The thing is that guys these days don’t know how to lead anymore, I bet you are the type of girl that only attracts assholes?
You know what that means right….
(then you can answer with something like, ‘that means I can’t talk to you anymore…you have father issues…bla bla bla’)
What is something about you that you find really embarrassing?
(she answer or doesn’t)
You know what, I can tell that you should not ever play poker, I bet your hands get sweaty don’t they…
Yeah you’re no good for me. But here is the thing, I bet you really have a lot of trouble keeping guys…
Like you are totally someone who is really attractive, but you are always afraid of maintaining attraction.
(this will actually rock a girl’s world, she will really push back with this)
Begin with Bait
-
How old are you?
(she answers)
Awe, I can’t ask you this then, you’re too young/old, it will be too much for you.
(she will pull back and want you to ask her)
Ok so have you been in a pretty heavy relationship before?
One where it is more physical than emotional?
Ok so I can tell that even if you had been in one, you were actually someone who had to hold back in it, cause guys don’t make you feel comfortable enough to open up completely.
Who is one of your really close friends?
Ahh actually you can’t be trusted if you have a friend with a first name like that it is too plain/eccentric…wait what is your first name…we may have to clear things up.
Alright, so here is the deal… what is something that you makes you really happy?
So with me, I am actually someone who can’t stand being bored. I have always got to be doing something…
Don’t get all ADD on me and think you can relate.
I bet you are one of those girls where you actually pisses guys off cause you get distracted in the bedroom too…
Ok so you don’t?
So what is your strong point?
First lets clear things up….
What is Attraction?
Attraction is gaining interest towards you.
How does Attraction work?
Attraction works off being reactive. There is almost like a mechanical flow to it. You push someone in the right way and they push you back.
So you tease someone and they smile and defend themselves.
Attraction does not get you laid, but is necessary for the whole process of things.
What are Phases of Attraction?
Some people say it comes first, but Attraction is always happening. It never stops. It happen at the beginning of a set and it is happening in the ‘seduction’ phase too. For now just keep an open mind towards that. We will get to implementing Attraction while seducing. For now lets focus on attracting with some seduction.
What are some tools for Attraction?
Things that cause attraction are:
-Energy Level or State
-Multi-Threading and Fractionating
-Being Dismissive
-Teases/Negs
-Disinterest
-Holding Frame
-Value
-Utilization of Bait
-Push Pull
-State Compliance
-Interactive based Routines
-Dominance
-Movement
-Touching
-Confusion
So now lets look at Rapport in the same way
What is Rapport?
Rapport is when you are both on equal levels. It is when there is emotional investment on both sides and that is how you are interacting. It doesn’t need to be deep, but it could be as little as someone trying to explain themselves to you, or as much as someone desperately telling you about who they would live and die for. But anywhere within that is good.
How does Rapport work?
Rapport works off of emotions. This is where people share parts of themselves to each other. It still has reactions, but they are towards parts of someone’s identity. The easiest way to describe this is Attraction’s reactions are surface level and Rapport’s are something which actually means something to someone. This is why Qualification was used to get there. The funny thing is that in order to gain investment in someone we were initially told to lie about ourselves to gain investment. Qualification is not the only way to gain rapport, in fact it can be gained much easier through other veins.
What are Phases of Rapport?
If Attraction is always moving and helping things push forward than Rapport is really the constant. Rapport is always there, from the moment you approach a set you need to make them feel comfortable (that was one of the reasons for the False Time Constraint and Over the Shoulder, that was one of the reasons for being Indirect). Now at the beginning Attraction is cycling really fast, but what an artist needs to do is let it slow down when the target hooks on that. That is what calibration is for.
There are many forms this can take, but you can take, you can open with attraction and make it feel comfortable, you can open with sexuality and make it feel comfortable, you can piss someone off and make it feel comfortable, there are all sorts of ways to bring it to the table. Either way rapport is the point what controls the shift of it all…it is what controls the tipping point.
Ways to Implement Rapport
-Cold Reading
-Framing
-Emotional Connection
-Stories
-Vulnerability
-Telling a Secret
-Isolation
-Intimate Compliance
-Emotional Compliance
-Making Mistakes acting Nervous
The reason why Seduction can be a catalyst for Rapport is because to give someone a ‘sexual identity’ they become invested. If you are into using framing then you need to do that right from the start. Your frames should be built from the start.
So here is how to set some sexual identity frames with Teases and Qualifiers. You can say them pretty much right away. If you think you need a ladder, you can try that, but you don’t need it.
The main thing is you are using Attraction tools to build an identity so you are using Push Pull to get them to play to this identity.
That way your Rapport will be based off of seduction and you can start grounding to implement other nicer frames….
Steps for Seduction
Teases and Qualification
So with the last post, I got some emails about qualification.
There were more than a few people that were up in arms about me saying that Qualification was NOT always necessary for achieving rapport.
The truth is that Qualification can lead you to rapport, but I think it would be terribly naive to think that it is the only way to Rapport.
Qualification is a tool of attraction that is trying to make it possible to Transition to Rapport.
This lesson will be about turning your Teases and Negs to move towards seduction and help lay the foundation for seduction and to Qualify towards seduction.
The long-winded theoretical part will be at the bottom, examples first (again all for you MMAPUA)
Email me at
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with whatever questions
Some Negs/Teases
Let’s start with some easy ones to elicit sex…
-Do you always treat shy church boys like this?
-You know, I bet you are one of those girls that totally gets off on intimidating guys.
-You have a really interesting face… the last girl I knew like that was always getting herself in trouble.
-I can tell you being quite and acting cute is just a front, I bet with your last boyfriend, you were a handful.
-I can tell just from talking to you I can be getting myself into trouble, it is girls like you that always bring out the worst in me.
-You’re gonna make me blush with those (comment on a characteristic of her) of yours, but I don’t want you to do something that might embarrass us here.
For those of you more brazen, you can get away with these pretty easily…just ask Algasim…
-You are one of those girls that is such a tease… I bet you totally pissed off your last guy you met… but you like that type of BS…
-You’re a girl that totally cheats…. No really it is totally cool, if you’re not satisfied, I can understand.
-If you keep talking that way I will have to make you squirt (or treat you like a women, or bend you over right now and take care of business)
-Hey I am just a shy boy, you don’t want to take advantage of me with your dirty mind.
-You’re totally the type of girl that can never live up to how she portrays herself.
-You’re one of those girls that can never get a guy off.
-You are totally one of those girls that gets intimidated by a guy who knows what they’re doing.
-I bet you are really insecure about yourself…like when you have sex do you have it with the lights on or off?
-You’re a really visual person, I bet you really like to watch…
-I bet you’re one of those girls with weird tits once you take off your bra.
-you’re one of those girls that attracts guys that are assholes, but the funny thing is that you’re still sexually frustrated.
-you’re one of those girls that really gets along with older/younger guys, but you actually don’t actually really feel like a woman.
-You’re one of those girls that is really beautiful, but you can’t keep someone attracted.
So with the teases you are really trying to get them to push back at you and assert some dominance over them. With the above the push back is set up to facilitate sexuality, and for them to accept a sexual role or stereotype.
Qualifiers
Now we will move to the qualifiers. Qualifiers will do a few things here. If you look at some of the more aggressive negs and teases, you will notice that they actually have more to do with challenging their identity, this builds more investment, hence making rapport easier to take flight. So with the qualifiers you can really gain some ground. First start thinking of qualifiers as something that allows you to inflict Bait and allows you to lead a topic to talk about. In other words ask questions that lead into a leveraging conversation and have it make them work for their identity. Also there is an element of cold reading that comes into play here too.
Also this is not qualification like the normal hoop theory that DOES work, but it show how to lead with qualification. It is just a little bit of a different take on it all. You see Bait and Cold Reading are pretty good tools to keep in the arsenal too.
Here are some qualifiers that lead into some Bait or begin with some Bait.
End with Bait
So can I ask you something? What is something that you really don’t like about guys you’ve dated?
(doesn’t matter if she answers, continue on)
The thing is that guys these days don’t know how to lead anymore, I bet you are the type of girl that only attracts assholes?
You know what that means right….
(then you can answer with something like, ‘that means I can’t talk to you anymore…you have father issues…bla bla bla’)
What is something about you that you find really embarrassing?
(she answer or doesn’t)
You know what, I can tell that you should not ever play poker, I bet your hands get sweaty don’t they…
Yeah you’re no good for me. But here is the thing, I bet you really have a lot of trouble keeping guys…
Like you are totally someone who is really attractive, but you are always afraid of maintaining attraction.
(this will actually rock a girl’s world, she will really push back with this)
Begin with Bait
-
How old are you?
(she answers)
Awe, I can’t ask you this then, you’re too young/old, it will be too much for you.
(she will pull back and want you to ask her)
Ok so have you been in a pretty heavy relationship before?
One where it is more physical than emotional?
Ok so I can tell that even if you had been in one, you were actually someone who had to hold back in it, cause guys don’t make you feel comfortable enough to open up completely.
Who is one of your really close friends?
Ahh actually you can’t be trusted if you have a friend with a first name like that it is too plain/eccentric…wait what is your first name…we may have to clear things up.
Alright, so here is the deal… what is something that you makes you really happy?
So with me, I am actually someone who can’t stand being bored. I have always got to be doing something…
Don’t get all ADD on me and think you can relate.
I bet you are one of those girls where you actually pisses guys off cause you get distracted in the bedroom too…
Ok so you don’t?
So what is your strong point?
First lets clear things up….
What is Attraction?
Attraction is gaining interest towards you.
How does Attraction work?
Attraction works off being reactive. There is almost like a mechanical flow to it. You push someone in the right way and they push you back.
So you tease someone and they smile and defend themselves.
Attraction does not get you laid, but is necessary for the whole process of things.
What are Phases of Attraction?
Some people say it comes first, but Attraction is always happening. It never stops. It happen at the beginning of a set and it is happening in the ‘seduction’ phase too. For now just keep an open mind towards that. We will get to implementing Attraction while seducing. For now lets focus on attracting with some seduction.
What are some tools for Attraction?
Things that cause attraction are:
-Energy Level or State
-Multi-Threading and Fractionating
-Being Dismissive
-Teases/Negs
-Disinterest
-Holding Frame
-Value
-Utilization of Bait
-Push Pull
-State Compliance
-Interactive based Routines
-Dominance
-Movement
-Touching
-Confusion
So now lets look at Rapport in the same way
What is Rapport?
Rapport is when you are both on equal levels. It is when there is emotional investment on both sides and that is how you are interacting. It doesn’t need to be deep, but it could be as little as someone trying to explain themselves to you, or as much as someone desperately telling you about who they would live and die for. But anywhere within that is good.
How does Rapport work?
Rapport works off of emotions. This is where people share parts of themselves to each other. It still has reactions, but they are towards parts of someone’s identity. The easiest way to describe this is Attraction’s reactions are surface level and Rapport’s are something which actually means something to someone. This is why Qualification was used to get there. The funny thing is that in order to gain investment in someone we were initially told to lie about ourselves to gain investment. Qualification is not the only way to gain rapport, in fact it can be gained much easier through other veins.
What are Phases of Rapport?
If Attraction is always moving and helping things push forward than Rapport is really the constant. Rapport is always there, from the moment you approach a set you need to make them feel comfortable (that was one of the reasons for the False Time Constraint and Over the Shoulder, that was one of the reasons for being Indirect). Now at the beginning Attraction is cycling really fast, but what an artist needs to do is let it slow down when the target hooks on that. That is what calibration is for.
There are many forms this can take, but you can take, you can open with attraction and make it feel comfortable, you can open with sexuality and make it feel comfortable, you can piss someone off and make it feel comfortable, there are all sorts of ways to bring it to the table. Either way rapport is the point what controls the shift of it all…it is what controls the tipping point.
Ways to Implement Rapport
-Cold Reading
-Framing
-Emotional Connection
-Stories
-Vulnerability
-Telling a Secret
-Isolation
-Intimate Compliance
-Emotional Compliance
-Making Mistakes acting Nervous
The reason why Seduction can be a catalyst for Rapport is because to give someone a ‘sexual identity’ they become invested. If you are into using framing then you need to do that right from the start. Your frames should be built from the start.
So here is how to set some sexual identity frames with Teases and Qualifiers. You can say them pretty much right away. If you think you need a ladder, you can try that, but you don’t need it.
The main thing is you are using Attraction tools to build an identity so you are using Push Pull to get them to play to this identity.
That way your Rapport will be based off of seduction and you can start grounding to implement other nicer frames….
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