Justin Wayne’s Free Lay Report : XYZ (One Day Full Close)
In Justin Wayne's Lay Reports on September 7, 2010 at 4:40 am
Hey Guys,
Yesterday, I was able to meet a random woman on the streets in the daytime and take here from Manhattan all the way to Queens to close the deal (SEX).
THE PICKUP
Basically, i was walking with my wingman Dean in Union Square in Manahattan. The last set of girls i fucked from cold approach where between ages of 18-22. This girl was in mid to late 20′s, proffesional girl with a PHD in ..umm i forgot. But anyways, I saw her walking ,and i went direct on her. I covered the three check points ( spoke to her for about 20 mins). Then we parted ways. I got her number and that was it. So an hour later, i texted her to say hi. SHe replied and said she is still in union square, so i met back up with her in Starbucks. We sat down for about 15 mins and talked. My Game plan was to basically get go for make out. So i decided to take her for a walk after the coffee, and thats where i did first kiss make out. After that, I basically had enough rapport and connection to get a solid number, but then i asked her what is she doing now, and she said “nothing”. This was my queu that i can try and fuk her same day sinc i already kissed her. It was around 9 oclock that time, so i decided to take her to a lounge with me that was close to that area. After 20 mins, I took her in a cab to queens. And then we went to my house. I had not muchlast minute resistance. then i fucked, and got blow job.
THE END.
I appreciate all you guys who are still in this game. Keep your heads up.
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The Truth about Stranger Approaching-by justin wayne..bonus email
The Truth about Stranger Approaching
In Dating/Pick-Up Theory on December 16, 2010 at 6:24 am
The Basic Explanation
Stranger Approach is something that no man should ever rely on. Even with the best ‘Pick Up SKills’, it can still lead to depression if not done right.
Despite my success, I’ve experienced depression while I was getting a lot of girls around a year ago. The main reason is this. No matter how good you are, you will always be ‘treated’ as a stranger, which is not healthy feedback for your mind. You will always fail more than you succeed in stranger approach. This is for reasons sometimes beyond our control.
Therefore, you will never truly feel like a winner if you had to climb mountains to get a girl. Why? because you will always be coming from a place of scarcity if you use the hardest approach to meet women.
The funny thing is, if naturals mostly meet girls in their social circle, then why would people who are not natural try to do stranger approach which is 10 times harder???
Thats why most people never really get good at it. Its not meant for you to get laid every day. It’s merely to help you become a man of social value to people and actually develop cool social circles.
Here’s a perfect song for this. Even the LEGEND Jim Morrison from THE DOORS sang about how much it sucks being a stranger when trying to meet people.
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bonus email :
Firstly, I want you to know thats it is only natural to feel 'off guard'. Stranger approaching is NOT normal and is considered 'weird' to normal people. Stranger approach, as you may have noticed, takes a certain mindset to carry out. That is why I look at it as a sport since you are playing against some odds which enhance the feeling of success.
The reason why it is a "performance" and NOT a way simple way of life, it's because we are not programmed to consistently meet and trust people who we do not know. Even if we program ourselves to do it, the people who were are approaching will still be conditioned to not truly connect with strangers in any meaningful way. This is why it has to be a 'performance'.
Some people think that performing means coming off fake. This is not necessarily the case. Even if someone looks perfectly natural doing random stranger approach game, they are still 'performing'. They are simply performing well.
That being understood. I remember you mentioning that you have a lot of experience gaming in NY and Miami. I guarantee that anyone who is not a NEWBIE is definitely not afraid to 'approach' a girl and simply just open. That's an easy task for anyone who have at least approached dozens of strangers. Especially since you can simply walk away if you approached ONLY for the sake of practicing opening.
It has now come to my attention that what most people (who are not newbies) do NOT fear the Approach. They fear the PERFORMANCE that they have to do after the open. It is relatively easy to say "hi". It is difficult to perform after saying hi.
Let's think about it. After you approach the girl to say hi, then you have to barrel through many potential challenges and social awkwardness that you have already faced far too many times in the back of your mind. She may look at you as if she is uncomfortable, she may be slightly rude to you, she may be friendly but still not interested in you and you find out later, She may get a phone call. OR, you may sound nervous, you may forget what you were going to say, you may be lost for words, you may say something stupid. Etc.
Performing is the act of trying to get the girl in which 99% is after the opener. Performing is what you must face in real time. It is wat makes you feel like you 'invested' or 'wasted' your time.
Approach Anxiety = Only for NEWBIES
Performance Anxiety = For most people who are actually trying to get the girl.
There is also a strange notion that "naturals" can just do random street approach and get laid like rockstars. MAJORLY FALSE.
Naturals do more warm approaching. The most difficult thing a natural would do is a WARM Approach in a social venue where it is NOT awkward to approach women. Naturals inherently know that at first glance, doing random stranger approaches on the street is not the ideal thing to do. Truth be told. It is not. Most naturals meet girls though social circles and a bar of friend etc.
Naturals do not randomly approach stranger and get laid. When they try, they too look and feel awkward in many cases too. It is not that they are social awkward people, it is just that they are going against social nature. Random Stranger approaching goes against it.
So stranger approach is a performance because it is not Natural to approach random people and make a true romantic connection with them. This is why it has to be looked as a science and art from in my humble opinion. The science has to do with the ratio of what works and what doesn't. The art is how you convey what you are suppose to.
So do not beat yourself up because you do not approach a girl when you are going through your normal activities. Even I do not approach all the time. It feels awkward for me too when I am not in the MODE or mindset. I mostly get laid when i change my mindset to perform. Since stranger approaching is out of the ordinary and goes against our very nature. I pass beautiful women in my life all the time too.
Stranger Approaching can be learned. But like anything else, it is not for everyone. That is why I will always let people know the truth about it. It worked for me after digging very deep.
This is why I suggest to society at large that Random Stranger Approaching should be only viewed as a niche and will always be a "niche". Just like any other challenging sport such as Free Running.
Also, if you want to feel sane, please do stranger approaching in moderation. I always tell my students to NOT practice every day, It will make you come off weird. Unless you have a great social circle of people who you are always in touch with.
Ultimately, whether you become great at Random Stranger Approach or not, focus on being apart of social circles where you can be given a fair chance and also come have normal interaction with people without trying to get something from them. It is good for your social mental psyche.
It is normal and ok to feel this way.
Nothing is wrong with you.
Hope this helps.
PS. I wrote this long because I felt its time for me to start giving more advice so people can understand what I am about. I will take your name out of it for confidentiality. Great question. Let me know if you have any other questions.
In Dating/Pick-Up Theory on December 16, 2010 at 6:24 am
The Basic Explanation
Stranger Approach is something that no man should ever rely on. Even with the best ‘Pick Up SKills’, it can still lead to depression if not done right.
Despite my success, I’ve experienced depression while I was getting a lot of girls around a year ago. The main reason is this. No matter how good you are, you will always be ‘treated’ as a stranger, which is not healthy feedback for your mind. You will always fail more than you succeed in stranger approach. This is for reasons sometimes beyond our control.
Therefore, you will never truly feel like a winner if you had to climb mountains to get a girl. Why? because you will always be coming from a place of scarcity if you use the hardest approach to meet women.
The funny thing is, if naturals mostly meet girls in their social circle, then why would people who are not natural try to do stranger approach which is 10 times harder???
Thats why most people never really get good at it. Its not meant for you to get laid every day. It’s merely to help you become a man of social value to people and actually develop cool social circles.
Here’s a perfect song for this. Even the LEGEND Jim Morrison from THE DOORS sang about how much it sucks being a stranger when trying to meet people.
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bonus email :
Firstly, I want you to know thats it is only natural to feel 'off guard'. Stranger approaching is NOT normal and is considered 'weird' to normal people. Stranger approach, as you may have noticed, takes a certain mindset to carry out. That is why I look at it as a sport since you are playing against some odds which enhance the feeling of success.
The reason why it is a "performance" and NOT a way simple way of life, it's because we are not programmed to consistently meet and trust people who we do not know. Even if we program ourselves to do it, the people who were are approaching will still be conditioned to not truly connect with strangers in any meaningful way. This is why it has to be a 'performance'.
Some people think that performing means coming off fake. This is not necessarily the case. Even if someone looks perfectly natural doing random stranger approach game, they are still 'performing'. They are simply performing well.
That being understood. I remember you mentioning that you have a lot of experience gaming in NY and Miami. I guarantee that anyone who is not a NEWBIE is definitely not afraid to 'approach' a girl and simply just open. That's an easy task for anyone who have at least approached dozens of strangers. Especially since you can simply walk away if you approached ONLY for the sake of practicing opening.
It has now come to my attention that what most people (who are not newbies) do NOT fear the Approach. They fear the PERFORMANCE that they have to do after the open. It is relatively easy to say "hi". It is difficult to perform after saying hi.
Let's think about it. After you approach the girl to say hi, then you have to barrel through many potential challenges and social awkwardness that you have already faced far too many times in the back of your mind. She may look at you as if she is uncomfortable, she may be slightly rude to you, she may be friendly but still not interested in you and you find out later, She may get a phone call. OR, you may sound nervous, you may forget what you were going to say, you may be lost for words, you may say something stupid. Etc.
Performing is the act of trying to get the girl in which 99% is after the opener. Performing is what you must face in real time. It is wat makes you feel like you 'invested' or 'wasted' your time.
Approach Anxiety = Only for NEWBIES
Performance Anxiety = For most people who are actually trying to get the girl.
There is also a strange notion that "naturals" can just do random street approach and get laid like rockstars. MAJORLY FALSE.
Naturals do more warm approaching. The most difficult thing a natural would do is a WARM Approach in a social venue where it is NOT awkward to approach women. Naturals inherently know that at first glance, doing random stranger approaches on the street is not the ideal thing to do. Truth be told. It is not. Most naturals meet girls though social circles and a bar of friend etc.
Naturals do not randomly approach stranger and get laid. When they try, they too look and feel awkward in many cases too. It is not that they are social awkward people, it is just that they are going against social nature. Random Stranger approaching goes against it.
So stranger approach is a performance because it is not Natural to approach random people and make a true romantic connection with them. This is why it has to be looked as a science and art from in my humble opinion. The science has to do with the ratio of what works and what doesn't. The art is how you convey what you are suppose to.
So do not beat yourself up because you do not approach a girl when you are going through your normal activities. Even I do not approach all the time. It feels awkward for me too when I am not in the MODE or mindset. I mostly get laid when i change my mindset to perform. Since stranger approaching is out of the ordinary and goes against our very nature. I pass beautiful women in my life all the time too.
Stranger Approaching can be learned. But like anything else, it is not for everyone. That is why I will always let people know the truth about it. It worked for me after digging very deep.
This is why I suggest to society at large that Random Stranger Approaching should be only viewed as a niche and will always be a "niche". Just like any other challenging sport such as Free Running.
Also, if you want to feel sane, please do stranger approaching in moderation. I always tell my students to NOT practice every day, It will make you come off weird. Unless you have a great social circle of people who you are always in touch with.
Ultimately, whether you become great at Random Stranger Approach or not, focus on being apart of social circles where you can be given a fair chance and also come have normal interaction with people without trying to get something from them. It is good for your social mental psyche.
It is normal and ok to feel this way.
Nothing is wrong with you.
Hope this helps.
PS. I wrote this long because I felt its time for me to start giving more advice so people can understand what I am about. I will take your name out of it for confidentiality. Great question. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Friday, December 10, 2010
performance anxiety sticking point in daygame: answers Justin Wayne and others
Daygame hesitation sticking points :I noticed a pattern
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I only do daygame.
and most scenarios have to do with either being somewhere and seeing a woman hot doing random errands and I get clueless at times to open them.
I dont go to coffee shops and bookstores just for pickup, I got ton of stuff to do and I think I should have an ability to be somewhere and get a chance to get to know a girl.
A scenario is today I saw was :
Gas station I was pumping gas and the car
the car behind me a hot woman comes out and goes in to pay and then goes to pump her gas into her car , she looks elsewhere doesnt notice me..I try to go open and hesitate...dont open F-K!
Library: Im standing looking for a book standing infront of bookshelf looking at books,I notice a cute girl looking at me ,
I look and notice her looking at me and catch her eye.....I hesitate and look away back into looking into bookshelf and she leaves....F-K!
Outside Supermarket:
I was driving by talking w my brother in my car a notice a woman who is corner who walks out of a local mini mart...I drive by slow and she then stands in the corner to cross , she stares and then I smile she smiles back with a sexual vibe and I drive away....its like we exchanged sexual eye contact....
I noticed from this and other posts before that Im constantly hesitating to open, Its ok to be caught off guard but now its becoming more and more often these scenarios and Im not doing something about it and its frustrating.
I would like any suggestions on this issue Im having.
Thanks guys
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Hey Sandros
I've been studying hard for finals too. Its good to hear from you again.
Firstly, I want you to know thats it is only natural to feel 'off guard'. Stranger approaching is NOT normal and is considered 'weird' to normal people. Stranger approach, as you may have noticed, takes a certain mindset to carry out. That is why I look at it as a sport since you are playing against some odds which enhance the feeling of success.
The reason why it is a "performance" and NOT a way simple way of life, it's because we are not programmed to consistently meet and trust people who we do not know. Even if we program ourselves to do it, the people who were are approaching will still be conditioned to not truly connect with strangers in any meaningful way. This is why it has to be a 'performance'.
Some people think that performing means coming off fake. This is not necessarily the case. Even if someone looks perfectly natural doing random stranger approach game, they are still 'performing'. They are simply performing well.
That being understood. I remember you mentioning that you have a lot of experience gaming in NY and Miami. I guarantee that anyone who is not a NEWBIE is definitely not afraid to 'approach' a girl and simply just open. That's an easy task for anyone who have at least approached dozens of strangers. Especially since you can simply walk away if you approached ONLY for the sake of practicing opening.
It has now come to my attention that what most people (who are not newbies) do NOT fear the Approach. They fear the PERFORMANCE that they have to do after the open. It is relatively easy to say "hi". It is difficult to perform after saying hi.
Let's think about it. After you approach the girl to say hi, then you have to barrel through many potential challenges and social awkwardness that you have already faced far too many times in the back of your mind. She may look at you as if she is uncomfortable, she may be slightly rude to you, she may be friendly but still not interested in you and you find out later, She may get a phone call. OR, you may sound nervous, you may forget what you were going to say, you may be lost for words, you may say something stupid. Etc.
Performing is the act of trying to get the girl in which 99% is after the opener. Performing is what you must face in real time. It is wat makes you feel like you 'invested' or 'wasted' your time.
Approach Anxiety = Only for NEWBIES
Performance Anxiety = For most people who are actually trying to get the girl.
There is also a strange notion that "naturals" can just do random street approach and get laid like rockstars. MAJORLY FALSE.
Naturals do more warm approaching. The most difficult thing a natural would do is a WARM Approach in a social venue where it is NOT awkward to approach women. Naturals inherently know that at first glance, doing random stranger approaches on the street is not the ideal thing to do. Truth be told. It is not. Most naturals meet girls though social circles and a bar of friend etc.
Naturals do not randomly approach stranger and get laid. When they try, they too look and feel awkward in many cases too. It is not that they are social awkward people, it is just that they are going against social nature. Random Stranger approaching goes against it.
So stranger approach is a performance because it is not Natural to approach random people and make a true romantic connection with them. This is why it has to be looked as a science and art from in my humble opinion. The science has to do with the ratio of what works and what doesn't. The art is how you convey what you are suppose to.
So do not beat yourself up because you do not approach a girl when you are going through your normal activities. Even I do not approach all the time. It feels awkward for me too when I am not in the MODE or mindset. I mostly get laid when i change my mindset to perform. Since stranger approaching is out of the ordinary and goes against our very nature. I pass beautiful women in my life all the time too.
Stranger Approaching can be learned. But like anything else, it is not for everyone. That is why I will always let people know the truth about it. It worked for me after digging very deep.
This is why I suggest to society at large that Random Stranger Approaching should be only viewed as a niche and will always be a "niche". Just like any other challenging sport such as Free Running.
Also, if you want to feel sane, please do stranger approaching in moderation. I always tell my students to NOT practice every day, It will make you come off weird. Unless you have a great social circle of people who you are always in touch with.
Ultimately, whether you become great at Random Stranger Approach or not, focus on being apart of social circles where you can be given a fair chance and also come have normal interaction with people without trying to get something from them. It is good for your social mental psyche.
It is normal and ok to feel this way.
Nothing is wrong with you.
Hope this helps.
Justin WAyne
PS. I wrote this long because I felt its time for me to start giving more advice so people can understand what I am about. I will take your name out of it for confidentiality. Great question. Let me know if you have any other questions
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Originally Posted by Illustrator
Hesitation comes from fear. Kill the fear you kill the hesitation.
Thanks man.GREAT Advice.
Quote:
Originally Posted by RedSeraph
You have an advantage in that you are trying to make these approaches during the day, to strangers you will likely never see again. Keeping that in mind, if you mess up, there really isn't any damage done, no one to be embarrassed to. So you have nothing to lose just snapping to say SOMETHING, ANYTHING to these ladies, and crashing and burning, just to get used to opening quickly and thinking on your feet. This should motivate you to act first and think later. Get the experience.
You are right I shouldn't feel nervous.I should say this to myself. Thanks
Quote:
Originally Posted by LastMan
Obvious question:
Have you ever not had this problem? Or does the 'daygame' you 'do' consist entirely of missed oppurtunities?
Not really, in the past I would do standard cold approach, but since I started noticing girls checking me out and giving me IOIs and started using more eye contact to initiate (something Ive been experimenting) I get into these situations and hesitate..cause Ive never read or heard anyone talk about girls giving you interest in Pickup ,its always about you doing a bunch of cold appraoches. Also in NY its mainly street game by foot , but here in Mia.. here it isnt common for a stranger to appraoch, its not social thing to do that.
you can say that Im in the middle of "I know I can appraoch" and " Ok she gives interest" "this is a gas station, now what ?" or " She is eye fucking me, OK what am I supposed to do".
Like performance anxiety of some sort.
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TEQUILA MAN SAYS:
Yeah, Sandee, I call it stalling. We ALL do it.
ForeverMan and Jesse should have some good advice.
TM
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I only do daygame.
and most scenarios have to do with either being somewhere and seeing a woman hot doing random errands and I get clueless at times to open them.
I dont go to coffee shops and bookstores just for pickup, I got ton of stuff to do and I think I should have an ability to be somewhere and get a chance to get to know a girl.
A scenario is today I saw was :
Gas station I was pumping gas and the car
the car behind me a hot woman comes out and goes in to pay and then goes to pump her gas into her car , she looks elsewhere doesnt notice me..I try to go open and hesitate...dont open F-K!
Library: Im standing looking for a book standing infront of bookshelf looking at books,I notice a cute girl looking at me ,
I look and notice her looking at me and catch her eye.....I hesitate and look away back into looking into bookshelf and she leaves....F-K!
Outside Supermarket:
I was driving by talking w my brother in my car a notice a woman who is corner who walks out of a local mini mart...I drive by slow and she then stands in the corner to cross , she stares and then I smile she smiles back with a sexual vibe and I drive away....its like we exchanged sexual eye contact....
I noticed from this and other posts before that Im constantly hesitating to open, Its ok to be caught off guard but now its becoming more and more often these scenarios and Im not doing something about it and its frustrating.
I would like any suggestions on this issue Im having.
Thanks guys
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Hey Sandros
I've been studying hard for finals too. Its good to hear from you again.
Firstly, I want you to know thats it is only natural to feel 'off guard'. Stranger approaching is NOT normal and is considered 'weird' to normal people. Stranger approach, as you may have noticed, takes a certain mindset to carry out. That is why I look at it as a sport since you are playing against some odds which enhance the feeling of success.
The reason why it is a "performance" and NOT a way simple way of life, it's because we are not programmed to consistently meet and trust people who we do not know. Even if we program ourselves to do it, the people who were are approaching will still be conditioned to not truly connect with strangers in any meaningful way. This is why it has to be a 'performance'.
Some people think that performing means coming off fake. This is not necessarily the case. Even if someone looks perfectly natural doing random stranger approach game, they are still 'performing'. They are simply performing well.
That being understood. I remember you mentioning that you have a lot of experience gaming in NY and Miami. I guarantee that anyone who is not a NEWBIE is definitely not afraid to 'approach' a girl and simply just open. That's an easy task for anyone who have at least approached dozens of strangers. Especially since you can simply walk away if you approached ONLY for the sake of practicing opening.
It has now come to my attention that what most people (who are not newbies) do NOT fear the Approach. They fear the PERFORMANCE that they have to do after the open. It is relatively easy to say "hi". It is difficult to perform after saying hi.
Let's think about it. After you approach the girl to say hi, then you have to barrel through many potential challenges and social awkwardness that you have already faced far too many times in the back of your mind. She may look at you as if she is uncomfortable, she may be slightly rude to you, she may be friendly but still not interested in you and you find out later, She may get a phone call. OR, you may sound nervous, you may forget what you were going to say, you may be lost for words, you may say something stupid. Etc.
Performing is the act of trying to get the girl in which 99% is after the opener. Performing is what you must face in real time. It is wat makes you feel like you 'invested' or 'wasted' your time.
Approach Anxiety = Only for NEWBIES
Performance Anxiety = For most people who are actually trying to get the girl.
There is also a strange notion that "naturals" can just do random street approach and get laid like rockstars. MAJORLY FALSE.
Naturals do more warm approaching. The most difficult thing a natural would do is a WARM Approach in a social venue where it is NOT awkward to approach women. Naturals inherently know that at first glance, doing random stranger approaches on the street is not the ideal thing to do. Truth be told. It is not. Most naturals meet girls though social circles and a bar of friend etc.
Naturals do not randomly approach stranger and get laid. When they try, they too look and feel awkward in many cases too. It is not that they are social awkward people, it is just that they are going against social nature. Random Stranger approaching goes against it.
So stranger approach is a performance because it is not Natural to approach random people and make a true romantic connection with them. This is why it has to be looked as a science and art from in my humble opinion. The science has to do with the ratio of what works and what doesn't. The art is how you convey what you are suppose to.
So do not beat yourself up because you do not approach a girl when you are going through your normal activities. Even I do not approach all the time. It feels awkward for me too when I am not in the MODE or mindset. I mostly get laid when i change my mindset to perform. Since stranger approaching is out of the ordinary and goes against our very nature. I pass beautiful women in my life all the time too.
Stranger Approaching can be learned. But like anything else, it is not for everyone. That is why I will always let people know the truth about it. It worked for me after digging very deep.
This is why I suggest to society at large that Random Stranger Approaching should be only viewed as a niche and will always be a "niche". Just like any other challenging sport such as Free Running.
Also, if you want to feel sane, please do stranger approaching in moderation. I always tell my students to NOT practice every day, It will make you come off weird. Unless you have a great social circle of people who you are always in touch with.
Ultimately, whether you become great at Random Stranger Approach or not, focus on being apart of social circles where you can be given a fair chance and also come have normal interaction with people without trying to get something from them. It is good for your social mental psyche.
It is normal and ok to feel this way.
Nothing is wrong with you.
Hope this helps.
Justin WAyne
PS. I wrote this long because I felt its time for me to start giving more advice so people can understand what I am about. I will take your name out of it for confidentiality. Great question. Let me know if you have any other questions
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MORE CONTRIBUTORS
Originally Posted by Illustrator
Hesitation comes from fear. Kill the fear you kill the hesitation.
Thanks man.GREAT Advice.
Quote:
Originally Posted by RedSeraph
You have an advantage in that you are trying to make these approaches during the day, to strangers you will likely never see again. Keeping that in mind, if you mess up, there really isn't any damage done, no one to be embarrassed to. So you have nothing to lose just snapping to say SOMETHING, ANYTHING to these ladies, and crashing and burning, just to get used to opening quickly and thinking on your feet. This should motivate you to act first and think later. Get the experience.
You are right I shouldn't feel nervous.I should say this to myself. Thanks
Quote:
Originally Posted by LastMan
Obvious question:
Have you ever not had this problem? Or does the 'daygame' you 'do' consist entirely of missed oppurtunities?
Not really, in the past I would do standard cold approach, but since I started noticing girls checking me out and giving me IOIs and started using more eye contact to initiate (something Ive been experimenting) I get into these situations and hesitate..cause Ive never read or heard anyone talk about girls giving you interest in Pickup ,its always about you doing a bunch of cold appraoches. Also in NY its mainly street game by foot , but here in Mia.. here it isnt common for a stranger to appraoch, its not social thing to do that.
you can say that Im in the middle of "I know I can appraoch" and " Ok she gives interest" "this is a gas station, now what ?" or " She is eye fucking me, OK what am I supposed to do".
Like performance anxiety of some sort.
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TEQUILA MAN SAYS:
Yeah, Sandee, I call it stalling. We ALL do it.
ForeverMan and Jesse should have some good advice.
TM
Justin Wayne college girl NY LR and Girl with BFs
Justin Wayne : “NY College Girl (Video)”
In Dating/Pick-Up Theory, Justin Wayne's Lay Reports on December 10, 2010 at 10:30 am
Hey Guys,
I know it has been a while since I posted. I hardly have time to post Lay Reports since it takes energy and I AM NOT APPROACHING OFTEN maybe once a week at best when I have to teach on weekends. Recording girls is very hard . Most of the times I don’t get good footage since i have to focus on both the girl and the right shots. I have to really get them in a certain state of freedom to get them to kiss me on video when I pull out my phone.
Initial PickUp
It was like 2 Sundays ago. I was coaching on a 1 on 1 session. I was in Union Sq. My student went on an instant date and I did not want to follow him since the logistics would of been weird for me to eavesdrop. I recently got a new spy cam. I am still gettin used to it. Anyways, that day i felt sooo shitty. I haven’t been approaching like i used to over a year and a half ago. I was with E and a promoter friend. They are always in Union Sq. It was like 8 pm. It was also freezing. I saw tried two stop to girls but they didnt stop. I finally stopped a third girl. She is an NY college student.
She was very skeptical since E was standing in the middle of the sidewalk stopping random girls. She asked me “Do you know him??? Are you trying to sell me something too??” Despite the fact that i opened her Neutral, she smelled BS.
I told her I knew him and he is a “promoter” acquaintance of mines. We spoke for 5-8 minutes. She said she had to go because she was cold. We exchanged numbers and i ended very strong and romantic, just so she wont get the wrong idea.
Phone Crap
SO i texted her, she repsonded to the first text but not the second. I then called her a week later before i decided to delete. I left a voicemail and then deleted it. SHe texted me and told me she as really busy. I said “ok , lets meet up”. She said she will let me know. I called her for the final time, she picked up, we vibed for 5 minutes and then i set the date on the phone.
Date/Close
I met up with her. Took her all the way to queens. Closed the deal. (the date info is in the video and im too lazy to type now)
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Justin Wayne’s thoughts on “Girls with Boyfriends’
In Dating/Pick-Up Theory, Justin Wayne's Lay Reports on December 10, 2010 at 9:49 am
Earlier this week, actually this past Saturday. I was training students at my bootcamps. It was cold, so instead of doing day game in the streets, I took in into one of the Malls in Manhattan.
After that, I performed a demo for one of the students who wanted to understand how to create momentum. I saw a brunette girl. I approached. I spoke to her for about 10 minuted while they waited. This was like 10 in the night outside of Macy’s. I was freezing my ass off. I met her the next day and closed the deal by her friends house since she lives with her boyfriend.
Within the first minute she mentioned a story about her “boyfriend”. Just a friendly reminder, i would say between 70% – 80% of the girls I’ve slept with from stranger approaches had boyfriends.
As my student observed, I focused NOT on what she said, but what she is willing to do WITH ME.
Some girls will just mention that they have a boyfriend. The only way for you to know if they like you are not is by moving forward. I NEVER look at boyfriends as an obstacle now. It does not mean that I will get every girl because I DONT. NO ONE DOES.
However, I understand that many girls will be willing to cheat on their boyfriends in certain situations. One question you should ask is “what phase of the relationship is she in?”
Many of the times you might meet a girl when she just met her ‘new’ boyfriend where she does not feel entitled for him yet. Other times, she may only be with him because he is the best option she has at that moment. She may also be with him but they have problems. ETC.
All these situations are where girls cheat. If she is extremely happy, it is unlikely that she will cheat during that phase. It can happen, but would be less frequent.
I remember when I used to be baffled to see how many of the girls I slept with were cheating on their boyfriends with me.
Truth is, most cute girls will be taken. It is up to your personal code of ethics to decide whether you will sleep with her or not. Most cases, if the relationship isnt that serious, it wouldn’t be that bad. But hey, that’s my opinion…
As I always say… “My objective is not to be RIGHT, but it is to find the TRUTH… because only the truth will set me free”
In Dating/Pick-Up Theory, Justin Wayne's Lay Reports on December 10, 2010 at 10:30 am
Hey Guys,
I know it has been a while since I posted. I hardly have time to post Lay Reports since it takes energy and I AM NOT APPROACHING OFTEN maybe once a week at best when I have to teach on weekends. Recording girls is very hard . Most of the times I don’t get good footage since i have to focus on both the girl and the right shots. I have to really get them in a certain state of freedom to get them to kiss me on video when I pull out my phone.
Initial PickUp
It was like 2 Sundays ago. I was coaching on a 1 on 1 session. I was in Union Sq. My student went on an instant date and I did not want to follow him since the logistics would of been weird for me to eavesdrop. I recently got a new spy cam. I am still gettin used to it. Anyways, that day i felt sooo shitty. I haven’t been approaching like i used to over a year and a half ago. I was with E and a promoter friend. They are always in Union Sq. It was like 8 pm. It was also freezing. I saw tried two stop to girls but they didnt stop. I finally stopped a third girl. She is an NY college student.
She was very skeptical since E was standing in the middle of the sidewalk stopping random girls. She asked me “Do you know him??? Are you trying to sell me something too??” Despite the fact that i opened her Neutral, she smelled BS.
I told her I knew him and he is a “promoter” acquaintance of mines. We spoke for 5-8 minutes. She said she had to go because she was cold. We exchanged numbers and i ended very strong and romantic, just so she wont get the wrong idea.
Phone Crap
SO i texted her, she repsonded to the first text but not the second. I then called her a week later before i decided to delete. I left a voicemail and then deleted it. SHe texted me and told me she as really busy. I said “ok , lets meet up”. She said she will let me know. I called her for the final time, she picked up, we vibed for 5 minutes and then i set the date on the phone.
Date/Close
I met up with her. Took her all the way to queens. Closed the deal. (the date info is in the video and im too lazy to type now)
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Justin Wayne’s thoughts on “Girls with Boyfriends’
In Dating/Pick-Up Theory, Justin Wayne's Lay Reports on December 10, 2010 at 9:49 am
Earlier this week, actually this past Saturday. I was training students at my bootcamps. It was cold, so instead of doing day game in the streets, I took in into one of the Malls in Manhattan.
After that, I performed a demo for one of the students who wanted to understand how to create momentum. I saw a brunette girl. I approached. I spoke to her for about 10 minuted while they waited. This was like 10 in the night outside of Macy’s. I was freezing my ass off. I met her the next day and closed the deal by her friends house since she lives with her boyfriend.
Within the first minute she mentioned a story about her “boyfriend”. Just a friendly reminder, i would say between 70% – 80% of the girls I’ve slept with from stranger approaches had boyfriends.
As my student observed, I focused NOT on what she said, but what she is willing to do WITH ME.
Some girls will just mention that they have a boyfriend. The only way for you to know if they like you are not is by moving forward. I NEVER look at boyfriends as an obstacle now. It does not mean that I will get every girl because I DONT. NO ONE DOES.
However, I understand that many girls will be willing to cheat on their boyfriends in certain situations. One question you should ask is “what phase of the relationship is she in?”
Many of the times you might meet a girl when she just met her ‘new’ boyfriend where she does not feel entitled for him yet. Other times, she may only be with him because he is the best option she has at that moment. She may also be with him but they have problems. ETC.
All these situations are where girls cheat. If she is extremely happy, it is unlikely that she will cheat during that phase. It can happen, but would be less frequent.
I remember when I used to be baffled to see how many of the girls I slept with were cheating on their boyfriends with me.
Truth is, most cute girls will be taken. It is up to your personal code of ethics to decide whether you will sleep with her or not. Most cases, if the relationship isnt that serious, it wouldn’t be that bad. But hey, that’s my opinion…
As I always say… “My objective is not to be RIGHT, but it is to find the TRUTH… because only the truth will set me free”
Tuesday, December 7, 2010
Day game model by Krauser pua
http://krauserpua.com/day-game-model/
Day Game Model
Kill Momentum —-> Vibe —-> Invest Her —-> Commit Her —-> Deep Rapport —-> Verbal Escalation —-> Close
Stage One: Kill Momentum
1. Pre-game: A good night sleep, comfortable mid/high status clothes, clear sense of purpose which is: I am going for the same day lay. The only time I won’t go for it is if an insurmountable obstacle arises (time constraints, refused extractions etc)
2. Pre-approach: You must be demonstrating value before the girl even notices you, primarily by having a great time with your wing and keeping each other out of your head. Think of yourself as kids walking to the sweet shop to buy a bag of your favourite sweets. It’s all fun, and you are selecting. As the girl walks past you you’re the most fun on the street, with a playful happy vibe. You should be getting people noticing you and looking.
3. Target Acquisition: Find the girl that makes your blood bubble. If you have to intellectualise that she’s hot, she’s not your girl so don’t bother. You need to feel the pull of DNA-matching. That’s your trigger, start jogging after her.
4. Spontaneous Opener: You can have a set structure of principles in opening but try not to use the same opener twice in one day. As you catch up to her ask yourself why you noticed her. What is it that caught your attention? Find one thing about her that is noticeable and then slot that into your opener:
5. Delivery: Begin with a pre-framed tease such as “Can I give you a compliment?”, “Hi, Can I say something?” or “Ok, How good is your English?” smile, then deliver the opener. Let it hit. If she really hooks let her talk, if she doesn’t move to the:
6. Gentle Tease: This is the push after the pull of the oepner. Make it creative, lighthearted and playful. This is the final piece of early attraction, showing her a slightly hard edge to pique her interest and push her a little into the defensive crouch rather than just handing her 100% validation. Example of 4-6 together:
Hi. I just have to tell you something…. I was just over there, drinking my coffee, when you walked past and my head just turned like this [gesture]. I thought to myself why did I notice her, out of all the girls. Obviously your cute but it wasn’t that. Then I was running over and I realised. You dress weird.”
7. Early Qualification: Pause and look expectantly. She should spontaneously start qualifying and playfully pushing you away (verbally) such as: “No! They’re nice shoes. I bought them in Camden. I like the colour.” Reward with an non-sexual IOI and build on the tease, like you’re not quite convinced she’s cool. Play it as long as it’s fresh and she’s increasing the giggling. A good early qualification buys you a ton of time to work.
8. Conversational Question: Ask a question that roots her in the interaction, such as “So what brings you out today?” or “You’re foreign right?” and she’ll tell you how she came to be here today while also giving some logistical information. Let her talk and begin to reduce your energy. Hold strong eye contact and don’t gesture. If there’s a real time constraint you’ll usually get it here. This is where you hook or don’t and it relies upon ploughing through the next stage
9. Plough: Have a few minutes of conversation ready that you can just launch into incase you can’t use what she just gave you for a natural conversation. Relax and chill out. Any time she adds something, let her speak – don’t ever destroy rapport. If you start trying to dominate the conversation or squeeze in your new DHV story it’s just gonna look try-hard. You are building towards her enjoying speaking to you. You are looking for a signal of arrested momentum such as:
(i) cross her legs and locking in
(ii) lighting a cigarette
(iii) readjusting her bag / putting away her phone
(iv) ceasing to look in the direction she was going. Once her momentum is stopped, she’ll open up and you can move into vibing.
Stage Two: Vibing
This is where you DHV through both sub-communicating what a cool guy you are as well as the actual stories. In natural game you are primarily creating a unique conversation feeding from what she gives you. The goal is relax her, then to take her away from her drab day and into a fun world that no other guy has ever shown her. It’s a circle rather than step by step process and should include:
a. light teasing
b. future projection of ridiculous situations in which you get one over on her
c. a light sprinkling of mild sexualisation to remind her this is a man talking to a woman
But consider these as spice sprinkled upon the meal which is getting to know each other superficially. You won’t be prying very deep into her character yet, you are mainly finding interesting ways to exchange the biographical information that is normally done tediously. Once she is smiling and trying to add her own value to the conversation it’s time to bait the trap with Investment.
Stage Three: Invest Her
At the beginning you were carrying the conversation and bringing all of the energy. You are dialiing it down now and flipping the script. She should be thoroughly enjoying the interaction and very happy to have been stopped. She now wants to cling onto this great interaction and make the most of it. Make her earn in, dangle that carrot in front of her nose and walk away (figuratively). You do this by turning closing yourself down into minimalist interaction. Think of yourself as a gradually strengthening black hole, sucking in her energy and giving very little back. This is characterised by:
a. Low flat vocal tone
b. Slow speech with short sentences
c. Strong sexualised eye contact
d. Rewarding her investment with nods and listening noises delivered in a slightly ambigious way like you haven’t made up your mind about her.
e. Occasional querious but earnest challenges like you don’t quite buy what she’s selling / don’t quite agree with her.
This is a smooth gradual process. She shouldn’t even notice the conversation has gone from 90% your voice to 70% her’s. You are now in the screening frame and making her chase. This is the time to start putting in qualified statements of interest to show she is winning you over e.g. “You know what, I really didn’t expect that. Tell me more, this is interesting.” or “Oh no! Why did you say that? I was just starting to like you” (playful). Her body language should be way more active than yours – crossing and uncrossing legs, kicking her feet, readjusting her bag plus all the classic IOIs like hair twirling and sparkling eyes.
Do not match her energy. That’s what every other sucker does, unable to believe he’s still talking to such a hot girl he tries to reciprocate the energy and thus ruins her desire to slip into the submissive frame. Investment ends when she has accepted you as her boss.
Stage Four: Commit Her
She’s now ready to be lead. If no obstacle has come up, go for the instant date. Usually this takes ten minutes but you are looking for milestones not a stopwatch – does she show signs of having become invested? If so, commit her. Don’t go too strong or gamey, just say “Look, have you got ten minutes?…. I’m enjoying this, lets get a coffee / sit on the grass / walk around a bit.” If she rejects you, calibrate according to how you read her forebrain/hindbrain conflict. If the hindbrain wants to come with you, deliver a FTC (“look, it’s just gonna be a couple of minutes till I meet my friends”) then lead her. If she’s not coming, number close with “Ok. Listen, this is what we’ll do. I like you, so when we’ve both got more time I’ll give you a shout. [pull out phone]“
You cannot progress until you have made her leave the last part of her world behind, i.e. bounced her from the approach location. Whether this is an instant date or day 2 is immaterial. It’s her investment that will decide it, not the rapport.
Stage Five: Deep Rapport
At some point in the date you have to sit her down directly in front of you and build a strong connection in a location with few distractions (unlike vibing, which is ok in busy places). Rapport can take a few hours and is little different to how you’d do it on a day 2 after a nightgame number close. I prefer not to kino escalate because it kills the frame of her chasing you, which you set up during Investment. The conversation should be about 80% comfort, 15% attraction (chick crack) and 5% sexualisation. The vibe is that you’re a man, she’s a woman and this is the most natural thing in the world. When you feel she is totally into you and totally comfortable, move on towards creating sexual state.
Stage Six: Verbal Escalation
Her rapport and investment has now given you a huge buffer zone to take the risk of escalation without appearing to chase her. The following four stages are a loop to be repeated as many times as necessary. It’s done late on in the date, and with gradually increasing intensity depending on your calibration.
1. General Sex Talk: Introduce sex talk in the third person / generality such as stories about pandas fucking, the way girls dance to look sexy etc
2. Sexual SOI: Make a personal observation about her that is sexually attractive and then finish it with a “and I find that really attractive” while looking into her eyes. Then back off slightly.
3. Future Projection: Paint the picture of a future scenario that involves you both romantically, e.g. “So imagine we’re going to a dinner party. Like the Ambassador’s party in the Ferrero Roche advert. I’m gonna be dressed really cool. Obviously. A well-cut suit and [describe]. What are you wearing?” Depending on her state, you can sexualise it much further, e.g. “So we’re on holiday in the Solomon Islands. We’re walking down the beach. What colour is your bikini?….. We’re splashing each other in the sea…etc”
4. Sexual Intent: Tell her you want to fuck her, like it’s the most natural thing in the world and you know she wants to fuck you.
The purpose of Verbal Escalation is to make no bones about where this is going but within a vibe like it’s all so natural. Your words and body language (particuarly eyes and vocal tone) are doing the work. There is little to no kino escalation. She is chasing despite you leading, so no kino. She will show her agreement towards the close either verbally or non-verbally:
Verbal: She’ll directly tell you things she likes about you. Don’t expect her to verbalise “let’s fuck”. She is thinking “I want to fuck this guy but I can’t tell him without looking like a slut, so I’ll just try to make it obvious I like him and then hope he takes the lead.” She’ll also stop raising conversation points that indicate obstacles to fucking (e.g. her boyfriend has disappeared, those friends she was meeting for dinner have disappeared too). Also watch for wistful inpatience (“I’ve got nothing to do tonight”, “I’m so bored these days, I wish something exciting would happen”etc)
Non-Verbal: Far more likely. She’ll be either acting or not acting. If she is acting and IOIs you she needs to be extracted right now. Not-acting IOIs to watch for:
(i) Her eyes suddenly spazz out, going all large, round and sparkly
(ii) she can’t stop looking into your eyes, with occasional submissive looks downards
(iii) a constant beaming smile like a dog about to eat dog food
(iv) leg twitching
(v) Her iniating kino in a fairly groping manner.
Once you’ve got confirmation she’s in a sexual state you’ve got an Its On Moment. A window has just opened and you need to jump through before it closes again. Take the leap – even if you get knocked back or LMR you’ll have way more value for next time than if you just sit there like a pussy don’t nothing at all.
Stage Seven: Close
Kiss, hug or whatever in the date location but don’t give her the validation of erogenous touching until the sex location. She has to earn that. There must be a void between her and the sexual validation she now craves and she has to jump that void herself. Don’t be afraid to drag her into a cafe bathroom or back street if your home logisitcs are bad.
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Rivelino says:
September 16, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Wow. This is gold. I am at work so I can’t break this down or analyze in full like I would like right now, but trust me, I will printing this baby out and reading it like a born again reads the Bible.
One immediate question, though: Shouldn’t you give a false time constraint in Stage One?
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Justin Wayne says:
September 16, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Hey Krauser, Its Justin Wayne form NYC. My website administrator told me to view your blog. Keep your head up. I like what i see. i appreciate your honesty and the fact that you demonstrate proof.
Keep it real bro.
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Willy Wonka says:
September 16, 2010 at 3:00 pm
I’m going to have to sticky this/bookmark it or something.
Good shit, Krauser. Keep it up.
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m.m says:
September 16, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Ditto all. I’ve had a quick glance but this seems very consistent with your overall approach. Good to see it conveyed into words. I feel like volumes of books could be written on the “gentle tease”.
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bhodisatta says:
September 17, 2010 at 2:51 pm
Sophisticated.
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stagetwo says:
September 19, 2010 at 5:26 am
this looks great. i have a question for you. is there a way to email you?
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eaglem says:
September 19, 2010 at 2:47 pm
sound simple ……..not
ive read it 3 times dont get this:
Non-Verbal: Far more likely. She’ll be either acting or not acting. If she is acting and IOIs you she needs to be extracted right now. Not-acting IOIs to watch for
what do you mean acting, if shes acting then shes a sexual person and not acting is more like a noob girl with no game?
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krauserpua says:
September 20, 2010 at 8:46 pm
Like in poker – a tell is either conscious (acting) or unconcious (not acting). If she’s acting she’s doing it because she wants something – it could be sex, or it could be more validation – and you have to figure out what that is.
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Rinaldo says:
September 22, 2010 at 1:01 am
I’m struck by the simplicity of all this, and how normal and simple you manner is in the videos you’ve uploaded – I’m a complete beginner, but it’s nice to know that someone can have success without being a complete loud mouthed douchey attention seeker – i.e. that you can be a normal person, just subtly tweaked and enhanced and get results. Of course its easier to say than to do, but this blog gives me hope and is a fantastic resource.
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realdeal says:
September 28, 2010 at 5:10 am
I don’t know but I feel that the model is too filled with theory…how about simplifying it and making it more practical i.e. just put what works (most of the time) and discard the fluff.
best !
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Woodsmoke says:
October 2, 2010 at 5:32 pm
So what you’re saying, Realdeal, is: ‘Please qualify yourself to me Krauser’.
Maybe you go find out what’s fluff on girls in-field, instead?
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realdeal says:
October 5, 2010 at 3:55 am
was I talking to you?
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Mike says:
October 6, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Must agree, damn, this is a good model & free. Thank you for your loads of effort making this, mate!
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Neo says:
October 9, 2010 at 10:32 pm
Thanks for this, very helpful insights.
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next says:
October 12, 2010 at 1:44 pm
“clear sense of purpose which is: I am going for the same day lay”
Why is this important? Assume you can’t, or don’t really want to take the girl to your place the same day (for whatever reason). Should you still play for this goal, and hope to maybe do it in her place or in a toilet. Is it more about having the right mindset than about arranging actual logistics in an optimal fashion (pre-game)?
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Library Desk Graffiti says:
October 20, 2010 at 3:14 am
You nailed in the last sentence: “more about having the right mindset.”
It will manifest itself in your body language, words, and attitude in ways you can’t force.
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realdeal says:
October 28, 2010 at 3:27 am
Any idea how to incorporate modeone into your model?
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Day Game Model
Kill Momentum —-> Vibe —-> Invest Her —-> Commit Her —-> Deep Rapport —-> Verbal Escalation —-> Close
Stage One: Kill Momentum
1. Pre-game: A good night sleep, comfortable mid/high status clothes, clear sense of purpose which is: I am going for the same day lay. The only time I won’t go for it is if an insurmountable obstacle arises (time constraints, refused extractions etc)
2. Pre-approach: You must be demonstrating value before the girl even notices you, primarily by having a great time with your wing and keeping each other out of your head. Think of yourself as kids walking to the sweet shop to buy a bag of your favourite sweets. It’s all fun, and you are selecting. As the girl walks past you you’re the most fun on the street, with a playful happy vibe. You should be getting people noticing you and looking.
3. Target Acquisition: Find the girl that makes your blood bubble. If you have to intellectualise that she’s hot, she’s not your girl so don’t bother. You need to feel the pull of DNA-matching. That’s your trigger, start jogging after her.
4. Spontaneous Opener: You can have a set structure of principles in opening but try not to use the same opener twice in one day. As you catch up to her ask yourself why you noticed her. What is it that caught your attention? Find one thing about her that is noticeable and then slot that into your opener:
5. Delivery: Begin with a pre-framed tease such as “Can I give you a compliment?”, “Hi, Can I say something?” or “Ok, How good is your English?” smile, then deliver the opener. Let it hit. If she really hooks let her talk, if she doesn’t move to the:
6. Gentle Tease: This is the push after the pull of the oepner. Make it creative, lighthearted and playful. This is the final piece of early attraction, showing her a slightly hard edge to pique her interest and push her a little into the defensive crouch rather than just handing her 100% validation. Example of 4-6 together:
Hi. I just have to tell you something…. I was just over there, drinking my coffee, when you walked past and my head just turned like this [gesture]. I thought to myself why did I notice her, out of all the girls. Obviously your cute but it wasn’t that. Then I was running over and I realised. You dress weird.”
7. Early Qualification: Pause and look expectantly. She should spontaneously start qualifying and playfully pushing you away (verbally) such as: “No! They’re nice shoes. I bought them in Camden. I like the colour.” Reward with an non-sexual IOI and build on the tease, like you’re not quite convinced she’s cool. Play it as long as it’s fresh and she’s increasing the giggling. A good early qualification buys you a ton of time to work.
8. Conversational Question: Ask a question that roots her in the interaction, such as “So what brings you out today?” or “You’re foreign right?” and she’ll tell you how she came to be here today while also giving some logistical information. Let her talk and begin to reduce your energy. Hold strong eye contact and don’t gesture. If there’s a real time constraint you’ll usually get it here. This is where you hook or don’t and it relies upon ploughing through the next stage
9. Plough: Have a few minutes of conversation ready that you can just launch into incase you can’t use what she just gave you for a natural conversation. Relax and chill out. Any time she adds something, let her speak – don’t ever destroy rapport. If you start trying to dominate the conversation or squeeze in your new DHV story it’s just gonna look try-hard. You are building towards her enjoying speaking to you. You are looking for a signal of arrested momentum such as:
(i) cross her legs and locking in
(ii) lighting a cigarette
(iii) readjusting her bag / putting away her phone
(iv) ceasing to look in the direction she was going. Once her momentum is stopped, she’ll open up and you can move into vibing.
Stage Two: Vibing
This is where you DHV through both sub-communicating what a cool guy you are as well as the actual stories. In natural game you are primarily creating a unique conversation feeding from what she gives you. The goal is relax her, then to take her away from her drab day and into a fun world that no other guy has ever shown her. It’s a circle rather than step by step process and should include:
a. light teasing
b. future projection of ridiculous situations in which you get one over on her
c. a light sprinkling of mild sexualisation to remind her this is a man talking to a woman
But consider these as spice sprinkled upon the meal which is getting to know each other superficially. You won’t be prying very deep into her character yet, you are mainly finding interesting ways to exchange the biographical information that is normally done tediously. Once she is smiling and trying to add her own value to the conversation it’s time to bait the trap with Investment.
Stage Three: Invest Her
At the beginning you were carrying the conversation and bringing all of the energy. You are dialiing it down now and flipping the script. She should be thoroughly enjoying the interaction and very happy to have been stopped. She now wants to cling onto this great interaction and make the most of it. Make her earn in, dangle that carrot in front of her nose and walk away (figuratively). You do this by turning closing yourself down into minimalist interaction. Think of yourself as a gradually strengthening black hole, sucking in her energy and giving very little back. This is characterised by:
a. Low flat vocal tone
b. Slow speech with short sentences
c. Strong sexualised eye contact
d. Rewarding her investment with nods and listening noises delivered in a slightly ambigious way like you haven’t made up your mind about her.
e. Occasional querious but earnest challenges like you don’t quite buy what she’s selling / don’t quite agree with her.
This is a smooth gradual process. She shouldn’t even notice the conversation has gone from 90% your voice to 70% her’s. You are now in the screening frame and making her chase. This is the time to start putting in qualified statements of interest to show she is winning you over e.g. “You know what, I really didn’t expect that. Tell me more, this is interesting.” or “Oh no! Why did you say that? I was just starting to like you” (playful). Her body language should be way more active than yours – crossing and uncrossing legs, kicking her feet, readjusting her bag plus all the classic IOIs like hair twirling and sparkling eyes.
Do not match her energy. That’s what every other sucker does, unable to believe he’s still talking to such a hot girl he tries to reciprocate the energy and thus ruins her desire to slip into the submissive frame. Investment ends when she has accepted you as her boss.
Stage Four: Commit Her
She’s now ready to be lead. If no obstacle has come up, go for the instant date. Usually this takes ten minutes but you are looking for milestones not a stopwatch – does she show signs of having become invested? If so, commit her. Don’t go too strong or gamey, just say “Look, have you got ten minutes?…. I’m enjoying this, lets get a coffee / sit on the grass / walk around a bit.” If she rejects you, calibrate according to how you read her forebrain/hindbrain conflict. If the hindbrain wants to come with you, deliver a FTC (“look, it’s just gonna be a couple of minutes till I meet my friends”) then lead her. If she’s not coming, number close with “Ok. Listen, this is what we’ll do. I like you, so when we’ve both got more time I’ll give you a shout. [pull out phone]“
You cannot progress until you have made her leave the last part of her world behind, i.e. bounced her from the approach location. Whether this is an instant date or day 2 is immaterial. It’s her investment that will decide it, not the rapport.
Stage Five: Deep Rapport
At some point in the date you have to sit her down directly in front of you and build a strong connection in a location with few distractions (unlike vibing, which is ok in busy places). Rapport can take a few hours and is little different to how you’d do it on a day 2 after a nightgame number close. I prefer not to kino escalate because it kills the frame of her chasing you, which you set up during Investment. The conversation should be about 80% comfort, 15% attraction (chick crack) and 5% sexualisation. The vibe is that you’re a man, she’s a woman and this is the most natural thing in the world. When you feel she is totally into you and totally comfortable, move on towards creating sexual state.
Stage Six: Verbal Escalation
Her rapport and investment has now given you a huge buffer zone to take the risk of escalation without appearing to chase her. The following four stages are a loop to be repeated as many times as necessary. It’s done late on in the date, and with gradually increasing intensity depending on your calibration.
1. General Sex Talk: Introduce sex talk in the third person / generality such as stories about pandas fucking, the way girls dance to look sexy etc
2. Sexual SOI: Make a personal observation about her that is sexually attractive and then finish it with a “and I find that really attractive” while looking into her eyes. Then back off slightly.
3. Future Projection: Paint the picture of a future scenario that involves you both romantically, e.g. “So imagine we’re going to a dinner party. Like the Ambassador’s party in the Ferrero Roche advert. I’m gonna be dressed really cool. Obviously. A well-cut suit and [describe]. What are you wearing?” Depending on her state, you can sexualise it much further, e.g. “So we’re on holiday in the Solomon Islands. We’re walking down the beach. What colour is your bikini?….. We’re splashing each other in the sea…etc”
4. Sexual Intent: Tell her you want to fuck her, like it’s the most natural thing in the world and you know she wants to fuck you.
The purpose of Verbal Escalation is to make no bones about where this is going but within a vibe like it’s all so natural. Your words and body language (particuarly eyes and vocal tone) are doing the work. There is little to no kino escalation. She is chasing despite you leading, so no kino. She will show her agreement towards the close either verbally or non-verbally:
Verbal: She’ll directly tell you things she likes about you. Don’t expect her to verbalise “let’s fuck”. She is thinking “I want to fuck this guy but I can’t tell him without looking like a slut, so I’ll just try to make it obvious I like him and then hope he takes the lead.” She’ll also stop raising conversation points that indicate obstacles to fucking (e.g. her boyfriend has disappeared, those friends she was meeting for dinner have disappeared too). Also watch for wistful inpatience (“I’ve got nothing to do tonight”, “I’m so bored these days, I wish something exciting would happen”etc)
Non-Verbal: Far more likely. She’ll be either acting or not acting. If she is acting and IOIs you she needs to be extracted right now. Not-acting IOIs to watch for:
(i) Her eyes suddenly spazz out, going all large, round and sparkly
(ii) she can’t stop looking into your eyes, with occasional submissive looks downards
(iii) a constant beaming smile like a dog about to eat dog food
(iv) leg twitching
(v) Her iniating kino in a fairly groping manner.
Once you’ve got confirmation she’s in a sexual state you’ve got an Its On Moment. A window has just opened and you need to jump through before it closes again. Take the leap – even if you get knocked back or LMR you’ll have way more value for next time than if you just sit there like a pussy don’t nothing at all.
Stage Seven: Close
Kiss, hug or whatever in the date location but don’t give her the validation of erogenous touching until the sex location. She has to earn that. There must be a void between her and the sexual validation she now craves and she has to jump that void herself. Don’t be afraid to drag her into a cafe bathroom or back street if your home logisitcs are bad.
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Rivelino says:
September 16, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Wow. This is gold. I am at work so I can’t break this down or analyze in full like I would like right now, but trust me, I will printing this baby out and reading it like a born again reads the Bible.
One immediate question, though: Shouldn’t you give a false time constraint in Stage One?
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Justin Wayne says:
September 16, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Hey Krauser, Its Justin Wayne form NYC. My website administrator told me to view your blog. Keep your head up. I like what i see. i appreciate your honesty and the fact that you demonstrate proof.
Keep it real bro.
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Willy Wonka says:
September 16, 2010 at 3:00 pm
I’m going to have to sticky this/bookmark it or something.
Good shit, Krauser. Keep it up.
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m.m says:
September 16, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Ditto all. I’ve had a quick glance but this seems very consistent with your overall approach. Good to see it conveyed into words. I feel like volumes of books could be written on the “gentle tease”.
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bhodisatta says:
September 17, 2010 at 2:51 pm
Sophisticated.
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stagetwo says:
September 19, 2010 at 5:26 am
this looks great. i have a question for you. is there a way to email you?
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eaglem says:
September 19, 2010 at 2:47 pm
sound simple ……..not
ive read it 3 times dont get this:
Non-Verbal: Far more likely. She’ll be either acting or not acting. If she is acting and IOIs you she needs to be extracted right now. Not-acting IOIs to watch for
what do you mean acting, if shes acting then shes a sexual person and not acting is more like a noob girl with no game?
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krauserpua says:
September 20, 2010 at 8:46 pm
Like in poker – a tell is either conscious (acting) or unconcious (not acting). If she’s acting she’s doing it because she wants something – it could be sex, or it could be more validation – and you have to figure out what that is.
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Rinaldo says:
September 22, 2010 at 1:01 am
I’m struck by the simplicity of all this, and how normal and simple you manner is in the videos you’ve uploaded – I’m a complete beginner, but it’s nice to know that someone can have success without being a complete loud mouthed douchey attention seeker – i.e. that you can be a normal person, just subtly tweaked and enhanced and get results. Of course its easier to say than to do, but this blog gives me hope and is a fantastic resource.
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realdeal says:
September 28, 2010 at 5:10 am
I don’t know but I feel that the model is too filled with theory…how about simplifying it and making it more practical i.e. just put what works (most of the time) and discard the fluff.
best !
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Woodsmoke says:
October 2, 2010 at 5:32 pm
So what you’re saying, Realdeal, is: ‘Please qualify yourself to me Krauser’.
Maybe you go find out what’s fluff on girls in-field, instead?
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realdeal says:
October 5, 2010 at 3:55 am
was I talking to you?
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Mike says:
October 6, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Must agree, damn, this is a good model & free. Thank you for your loads of effort making this, mate!
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Neo says:
October 9, 2010 at 10:32 pm
Thanks for this, very helpful insights.
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next says:
October 12, 2010 at 1:44 pm
“clear sense of purpose which is: I am going for the same day lay”
Why is this important? Assume you can’t, or don’t really want to take the girl to your place the same day (for whatever reason). Should you still play for this goal, and hope to maybe do it in her place or in a toilet. Is it more about having the right mindset than about arranging actual logistics in an optimal fashion (pre-game)?
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Library Desk Graffiti says:
October 20, 2010 at 3:14 am
You nailed in the last sentence: “more about having the right mindset.”
It will manifest itself in your body language, words, and attitude in ways you can’t force.
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realdeal says:
October 28, 2010 at 3:27 am
Any idea how to incorporate modeone into your model?
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Wednesday, November 10, 2010
Stuck-Up NYC Woman Same-NIght-Lay justin Wayne LR
Justin Wayne Free Lay Report: “Stuck-Up NYC Woman Same-NIght-Lay”
In Justin Wayne's Lay Reports on November 11, 2010 at 1:26 am
Hey Guys,
This an older Lay Report that I found. This is me dealing with a girl with an attitude.
It was on a Saturday night. I was exhausted from teaching, and was is a shitty mood since I did not feel like gaming after coaching.
This may be surprising to some, but I usually am not really in the mood to approach women in the streets. To be honest, I hate the first 3 minutes of the pick-up the most out of all the other stages.
That time it was about 9 o’clock p.m. And I decided that should practice for 30 minutes before heading home. I honestly felt like there was NO way to pull a girl home that night since i felt so shitty and exhausted.
So as I was chilling with some of the other guys, we saw a brunette woman walking fast as if she was in a rush. I decided to go approach her since she was walking my way.
As she was walking I rushed towards her and tried to stop her. She Stopped.
Since i felt like crap, I decided to use a very old classical OPINION opener haha. The reason for this is because it takes a certain level of energy to go direct, and I did not feel social or had the energy so i decided to use a longer route.
I said “Hey, Quick question for you… Would you rather be needed or wanted ?”
She looked at me as if i was retarded and said ” Oh come on , you stopped me to ask me this ridiculous bullshyt?! I hate it when guys try to use these dumb ways to meet women. This has happened to me dozen of times! :\”
Now this caught me a little off guard, and I was going to just walk away, and she looked as if she was really pissed off.
The I looked to my right and I saw Aiden who is another dating coach i know. He was observing me in the interaction. I looked at him and smiled.
I had 2 options at this time:
1) Just joke about it and say something like “ok cool, lets change the topic.etc”
2)Just really believe in my own bullshit (i knew i should of used a neutral opener instead).
I used route 2. (for no good reason since i was tired and burned out from teaching all day)
I said “WHOAA, you have some nerve to think that im trying to pick u up, you dont even know if your my type :/ anyways, seriously I wanna know…”
SHe looked at me really skeptical for like 4 seconds, ( i had to keep a very strong frrame and used assured eye contact ) and then she decided to answer it.
SO we spoke about the indirect bullshit for about 2 minutes or less. After that I transitioned to ask her where she was from, she said she lived in manhattan all her life. After rapport she said ” Listen i have to go now>> im late for a dinner!”
SO then i used my intent and grabbed her hand before she left and said ” Listen, truth is that i stopped you because i really thought you were sexy enough to go home with me tonight “
She said “lol, OMG! you are… i dont know!! lol” she was blushing and caught off guard.
I made sure not to smile to0 much, i kept a half smile so she can feel the subtle seriousness and alpha dominance.
SHe said, .. ok” maybe we can go out, lets exchange numbers”
I took it.
And later, she called me asked me if im stilli n the city. i told her yes and we should grab a drink.
She met me, and in 5 minutes in the bar i took her and made out with her. We were in the for less than 10 minutes and then I tried to pull her to my house since the bathrooms over there were not ideal.
She declined, and said she has to go out early the next day. So then i suggested to go to her house. SHe said sure but nothing can happen. I said sure.
I went to her place, and closed the deal.
The End.
In Justin Wayne's Lay Reports on November 11, 2010 at 1:26 am
Hey Guys,
This an older Lay Report that I found. This is me dealing with a girl with an attitude.
It was on a Saturday night. I was exhausted from teaching, and was is a shitty mood since I did not feel like gaming after coaching.
This may be surprising to some, but I usually am not really in the mood to approach women in the streets. To be honest, I hate the first 3 minutes of the pick-up the most out of all the other stages.
That time it was about 9 o’clock p.m. And I decided that should practice for 30 minutes before heading home. I honestly felt like there was NO way to pull a girl home that night since i felt so shitty and exhausted.
So as I was chilling with some of the other guys, we saw a brunette woman walking fast as if she was in a rush. I decided to go approach her since she was walking my way.
As she was walking I rushed towards her and tried to stop her. She Stopped.
Since i felt like crap, I decided to use a very old classical OPINION opener haha. The reason for this is because it takes a certain level of energy to go direct, and I did not feel social or had the energy so i decided to use a longer route.
I said “Hey, Quick question for you… Would you rather be needed or wanted ?”
She looked at me as if i was retarded and said ” Oh come on , you stopped me to ask me this ridiculous bullshyt?! I hate it when guys try to use these dumb ways to meet women. This has happened to me dozen of times! :\”
Now this caught me a little off guard, and I was going to just walk away, and she looked as if she was really pissed off.
The I looked to my right and I saw Aiden who is another dating coach i know. He was observing me in the interaction. I looked at him and smiled.
I had 2 options at this time:
1) Just joke about it and say something like “ok cool, lets change the topic.etc”
2)Just really believe in my own bullshit (i knew i should of used a neutral opener instead).
I used route 2. (for no good reason since i was tired and burned out from teaching all day)
I said “WHOAA, you have some nerve to think that im trying to pick u up, you dont even know if your my type :/ anyways, seriously I wanna know…”
SHe looked at me really skeptical for like 4 seconds, ( i had to keep a very strong frrame and used assured eye contact ) and then she decided to answer it.
SO we spoke about the indirect bullshit for about 2 minutes or less. After that I transitioned to ask her where she was from, she said she lived in manhattan all her life. After rapport she said ” Listen i have to go now>> im late for a dinner!”
SO then i used my intent and grabbed her hand before she left and said ” Listen, truth is that i stopped you because i really thought you were sexy enough to go home with me tonight “
She said “lol, OMG! you are… i dont know!! lol” she was blushing and caught off guard.
I made sure not to smile to0 much, i kept a half smile so she can feel the subtle seriousness and alpha dominance.
SHe said, .. ok” maybe we can go out, lets exchange numbers”
I took it.
And later, she called me asked me if im stilli n the city. i told her yes and we should grab a drink.
She met me, and in 5 minutes in the bar i took her and made out with her. We were in the for less than 10 minutes and then I tried to pull her to my house since the bathrooms over there were not ideal.
She declined, and said she has to go out early the next day. So then i suggested to go to her house. SHe said sure but nothing can happen. I said sure.
I went to her place, and closed the deal.
The End.
Sunday, November 7, 2010
Justin Wayne’s Free Lay Report : (1 min number close to F-CLose in less than 18 hrs)
Justin Wayne has great Lay Reports.
Guy knows his thing.I d recommend him working with guys who are midlevel advanced.
Definately knows his shite.
Anyways decided to repost this LR cause its good.
ENJOY!
Justin Wayne’s Free Lay Report : (1 min number close to F-CLose in less than 18 hrs)
In Justin Wayne's Lay Reports on October 20, 2010 at 8:39 am
Initial Pick-Up
Yea. So on Saturday night, I went out to Union Square. I did not intend to pick up chicks thats night because I met up with some old school friends of mines. So basically while I was in UNions Square, my roommate Luc showed me this cut girl walking really fast while she was ON THE PHONE. I couldnt help but to run behind on in the street and i went totally direct with ” hey, had to stop u for a sec becasue you r sooo sexy, and i totally wanna get in your pants right now….so wish me luck ” so she was bascially talking to me and her friend on the phone at the same time. We exchanged numbers quickly becasue she said she is late for dinner. So this was around like 11 oclock in the night. After that i went to the club with my boys Gio, Bob, Von, Sunny, and Dean.
Phone Game (The Follow-Up)
Ok. So since this was a fast and flakeyish 1 minute number close, I knew that i had to run some of my standardized phone game. But before i did, i made sure that she was texting me back first. Then i called her on Sunday in afternoon at 1. She lives all the way in Staten Island, but i didnt care, and went for it. I basically called her and vybed with her on phone to build some comfort and tried to get her out. * i knew that i had to follow up really fast since i did not get to run solid game on her initially*. So then i got her to agree to meet me at 5. I also over-hyped the venue.
The DATE and F-Close (SEX)
Soooo, I met her in Manhatten at 5 and took her straight to Queens to my usual date spot. I took her to my friend’s store to raise my social proof (even though its not necessary). Then i took her to the icecream spot where i could chit chat with her. And then i took her to the poolhole, where i did the first kiss. (i actually took a pic of it as you will see below). AGAIN EVERYONE, always try your best to kiss girls before attempting them to bring them in your house. It SAVES time when she is in your house so she will already be comfortable making out with you. Keep in mind that as soon as i get make out, i always take straight to my house. Which i did in this case. After we reached the house. I put on my Justin Wayne Seduction Game. Then the rest was history. i got a blowjob and fucked her doggystyle.
THE END.
PS. I Fucked 3 gilrs this week and didnt sleep much so me and my dick needs some good rest
Guy knows his thing.I d recommend him working with guys who are midlevel advanced.
Definately knows his shite.
Anyways decided to repost this LR cause its good.
ENJOY!
Justin Wayne’s Free Lay Report : (1 min number close to F-CLose in less than 18 hrs)
In Justin Wayne's Lay Reports on October 20, 2010 at 8:39 am
Initial Pick-Up
Yea. So on Saturday night, I went out to Union Square. I did not intend to pick up chicks thats night because I met up with some old school friends of mines. So basically while I was in UNions Square, my roommate Luc showed me this cut girl walking really fast while she was ON THE PHONE. I couldnt help but to run behind on in the street and i went totally direct with ” hey, had to stop u for a sec becasue you r sooo sexy, and i totally wanna get in your pants right now….so wish me luck ” so she was bascially talking to me and her friend on the phone at the same time. We exchanged numbers quickly becasue she said she is late for dinner. So this was around like 11 oclock in the night. After that i went to the club with my boys Gio, Bob, Von, Sunny, and Dean.
Phone Game (The Follow-Up)
Ok. So since this was a fast and flakeyish 1 minute number close, I knew that i had to run some of my standardized phone game. But before i did, i made sure that she was texting me back first. Then i called her on Sunday in afternoon at 1. She lives all the way in Staten Island, but i didnt care, and went for it. I basically called her and vybed with her on phone to build some comfort and tried to get her out. * i knew that i had to follow up really fast since i did not get to run solid game on her initially*. So then i got her to agree to meet me at 5. I also over-hyped the venue.
The DATE and F-Close (SEX)
Soooo, I met her in Manhatten at 5 and took her straight to Queens to my usual date spot. I took her to my friend’s store to raise my social proof (even though its not necessary). Then i took her to the icecream spot where i could chit chat with her. And then i took her to the poolhole, where i did the first kiss. (i actually took a pic of it as you will see below). AGAIN EVERYONE, always try your best to kiss girls before attempting them to bring them in your house. It SAVES time when she is in your house so she will already be comfortable making out with you. Keep in mind that as soon as i get make out, i always take straight to my house. Which i did in this case. After we reached the house. I put on my Justin Wayne Seduction Game. Then the rest was history. i got a blowjob and fucked her doggystyle.
THE END.
PS. I Fucked 3 gilrs this week and didnt sleep much so me and my dick needs some good rest
Wednesday, October 6, 2010
justin wayne vid lr
Here’s an alternative link : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq2ypnSENMU
I am glad that they chose the girl for me to approach so that its totally legit.
My plan was not to close her the same day since there are a few logistical reason why sometimes I can not close the same day. In this situation, she was suppose to meet up with her boyfriend. So I just focused on getting her “romantically invested” in me first.
Within 10 minutes I already had her warm and playful and got the make out. I dont know why they left it out in the video but it doesn’t matter since they got the footage of closing the deal.
(Some of the footage was from my phone, i just simpled joked and said “i have to tape this beautiful moment “
After that I knew I had to move her. SHe followed me to the bookstore. One thing I always ell people is that a true instant date is when you guys actually look like boyfriend and girlfriend. I did a lot of handholding ,and then she started chasing me and hugging me without me having to initiate it.
Her boyfriend called her like 10 times during the pick up. I then convinced her to come by me. I live one hr away in queens. I wasnt worried because i knew the number was pretty solid. So even if she couldnt come home with me that day, i could always continue it later and have on of the PUA Watchmen follow me.
However, she decided to come on the 1hr journey to Queens with me. (The pick up was in Union Sq). Keep in mind this is my usual routine so im used to pulling them from the city all the time.
Two of the PUA Watchmen guys followed me on the train, i acted as if i didn’t know them.
I took her in my room and fucked her doggy style, and took the footage on my phone.
Anyways, I would like to thank JB from PickUpArtistEvents for putting this together.
Keep your heads up guys.
justin wayne
I am glad that they chose the girl for me to approach so that its totally legit.
My plan was not to close her the same day since there are a few logistical reason why sometimes I can not close the same day. In this situation, she was suppose to meet up with her boyfriend. So I just focused on getting her “romantically invested” in me first.
Within 10 minutes I already had her warm and playful and got the make out. I dont know why they left it out in the video but it doesn’t matter since they got the footage of closing the deal.
(Some of the footage was from my phone, i just simpled joked and said “i have to tape this beautiful moment “
After that I knew I had to move her. SHe followed me to the bookstore. One thing I always ell people is that a true instant date is when you guys actually look like boyfriend and girlfriend. I did a lot of handholding ,and then she started chasing me and hugging me without me having to initiate it.
Her boyfriend called her like 10 times during the pick up. I then convinced her to come by me. I live one hr away in queens. I wasnt worried because i knew the number was pretty solid. So even if she couldnt come home with me that day, i could always continue it later and have on of the PUA Watchmen follow me.
However, she decided to come on the 1hr journey to Queens with me. (The pick up was in Union Sq). Keep in mind this is my usual routine so im used to pulling them from the city all the time.
Two of the PUA Watchmen guys followed me on the train, i acted as if i didn’t know them.
I took her in my room and fucked her doggy style, and took the footage on my phone.
Anyways, I would like to thank JB from PickUpArtistEvents for putting this together.
Keep your heads up guys.
justin wayne
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