Re: FR: "she will fix your plumbing"Failed same night seduction
Hello Sandros,
My comments in line
>So this happened 2 weeks ago,
>Apparently, I’ve been starting to notice women checking me out and when you lose that edge you had >getting laid consistently or MOJO, you become apathetic.
>But then I started to notice girls, I'd look at them at store and they look back very subtle with the >corner of their eyes, and they would stand still and play with their hair...(IOI)
>I’d get intimidated a bit since I’ve been away from "player mode"
>Seeing the open opportunity of Approach Invitation but like my old self would say:
>"Oh man she likes it, go talk to her"
>That was turning point of how I have balanced my life, to now to re-enter the seducer mentality.
>Of course I was uncalibrated and creeped a couple girls out here and there but fixing that initial step >was easy.
>LONG STORY SHORT
>The House Party
>There were a couple of girls there but I was already SOCIAL PROOF.
>it was my family's house and hosting an event of 60 people in our yard and by pool deck...beer and >music.
>-stripper look alike was w her BF but would catch glimpse of me, she was so like slutty.lol
>-the tall young blonde 18 yr old, got cockblocked by her grandma when I was trying to build comfort >awesome compliance trying to isolate her in my room.lmao and her grandma would try to qualify me >and disqualify the girl to me. And she took her away and they left the party.
>3 set- hb mariE , hb marG , hb drunk
>They were in a group and I didn’t know them, they came with a dude.
>They left party 8pm and came back later in the night.12:30 midnight.
>when they came back they looked for me and approached with
>"HEY WE ARE BACK" tipsy or whatever it was 12:30 midnight.
>Anyways I was catching their eye contact or checking me out,
>I mean ALOT from hb mariE & hb marG.
>So they opened me later w convo, I was there and was cocky funny, they laughed and they left me >leaving me isolated with hb mariE and ejected to show non clinginess.
>Then later again they indirect re open me with wanting to get a drink for them all and that they are >short with money,, they were all tipsy and pull out a bunch of cents out and started counting......
Ouch... the girls testing you and running the Materialista game.. and it´s even a test in group.. did you tell them to cook for you a meal that night?
>I told them "what is this?" trying to tease them for it and they stared at me weird....I guess it was too >much (breaking rapport) felt it embarrassed them too harsh and what not (makinging me look like >asshole).
Too much breaking rapport? What you? The social security?
>I said I will treat you guys since you seem cool. Got them 3 soda cans and went to do other stuff as I’m >trying to fractionate, Just being HOST and NOT LOOK CHEAP or clingy cause I gave them drinks of soda.
>MISTAKE w body language or delivery?? They didn’t process as a tease therefore looked at me weird.
Shit test failed my friend. You should have responded like this while kinoing several of them (I mean hand on the ass of one girl, hand on the ass of the other girl ) and then...
Sandros: "Are you guys good at cooking pasta? I adore pasta food."
>Then shortly after, the bartender and my brother told me those girls are asking about you
For sure.. and for a new drink
>"where’s papa sandros?"
>I think she is checking you out. Talking about hb mariE.
>Hb marG was hotter and seem horny-er.
>Looks like a HOT latin girl who'd do weather forecast in a LATIN TV channel.
>but I fucked it up with this here:
>they went to the pool side and hb marG took of her shoes and looked at me sexually, I just stared back >and tried teasing her to spike BT,since she took of her shoes and put her feet in the water she was at >low energy kindah tipsy and it came off weird, the me teasing her part of it
>she looked at me weird like WTF?
Hmm.. feels like you need more experience with cocky and funny. One good way to use cocky and funny is to use something she says.. like for example:
Her: "What´s your job?"
You: "I work ONCE A YEAR in bank" (pretending to be a criminal)
>I felt it killed attraction w uncalibrated teasing. With a disappointed look on her face.FUCK.
>MISTAKE????
No there are no "mistakes" only feedback.
>Hb drunk was too drunk and party was being directed inside the house because it was 2:30am she was >talking to ugly chumps.
>5 minutes later, As they were in house, Hb mariE bumps into me spills her drink and I isolate her to the >kitchen to give her paper towel.
>I was running great touching in the interaction but something was OFF so I pull back a bit.
How do you know it was off? If she was getting very drunk it means she controlled her own horniness by being drunk.
Freaky girls use getting drunk very often to control their own horniness.
>I give her paper towel and I turn to "lock-in" to appear her investing interest in me through body >language.
>I started qualifying by pacing and leading:
> vibbing,
>what you do when you’re not hanging out w your friends?
>where you live by,live by yourself?
>got plans tomorrow morning or relaxing?
>where are you staying over tonight?
>what you do for fun? you seem interesting.
This is not good vibbing. You should avoid making girls personal questions. You should vibe with stories about YOURSELF or something neutral. If you make her questions you make of her the prize.
You should be the PRIZE.
You: "You can´t imagine it.. last week I was at a party and who I run into? My former girlfriend dressed as a police officer.."
This is a story about YOU and YOUR EX. Not her. You are the prize here.
>basically included logistical questions to figure out the pull.staying w friends house.
>she was investing into the convo and seemed like she did want to talk to me ... I was vibbing in >between qualifiers to figure out logistics and gage interest, she was wearing a herblife shirt like >bekham.
>I touched her below her tits on shirt,I said: "herblife eh?"
>she kept staring at my lips and sexual eye contact again at me.
Ok this was a good one anyway again your are commenting something about HER.
>I looked at her same and FELT sexual tension from her as I touch hair to side from her eyes to create >intimacy connection like before a kiss.
>I couldnt get away from the view from her friends so I didnt go for kiss, then next thing to get her to >isolate to talk more BUT
>felt it was a chance to get her to a room or somewhere private to get intimate .....no joke. I sense she >was horny.
>I felt like I wanted to sexual escalate there and fast.
You can escalate also when the friends are there..
>So after that I said "come here ,want to show you something"
>Grabed her hand to isolate to the room next to a bathroom so that the other people wont see us .
>she was there halfway and her Anti SLUT radar rang the ALARM...
>she said :"Oh NO, you go ahead"
Proper response: hand on her ass and "Ladies first! I am a gentleman"
Don´t let a woman impose her frame on you. REFRAME HER.
>I had to improvise and act like uneedy. go in room relax, then came back out she was waiting at >kitchen still for me.
>acted like nothing and smiled at her.
>she started talking about her t shirt beckham herblfe and told me she workd herblfe and she could >come over my house another day and she can take measurements of my body, so we number exchange.
Oh this is a huge IOI from her but there is a problem: she is shifting it into the future. That´s a way she uses to control horniness.
>After number close,I walked away to avoid losing attraction by coming needy and or eager.
>So I went off to other things...since they were only girls there.
>then as they were leaving
>hb mariE screams in front of her friends
>"hey sandros call me tomorrow ok"
>I smiled at her like yeah w playing hard to get look
>her friend HB MarG screams:"call her, she will fix your plumbing"
Ahahaha.. so after all you were the soul of the party. That´s good.
>THEY ALL LAUGHED.
>sunday i wasnt feeling it, tired as fuck, plus I wasnt sure about her.I had gone for the pull.
It´s inner game issue. This girls gave you huge IOIs.
>she was telling me to call her and it seemed she was trying to lead me or frame her leadership.
>so I called her on monday and not sunday
No done in front of the group was a huge IOI
>she didnt call me back,
Of course see these girls in parties have to be taken there when they are IN STATE.>thursday I call leave a short message
"hey whats up dork,been busy ...wanted to catch up with what we were talking about ,so ..... talk to you laters "
Never, never leave messages in answering machine. Also get a private number so that when you call she cannot now who calls.
>She didnt return my call. I felt by trying it would show neediness, I had girls call me back and I know I >dont have to try hard.
Simply her state changed from the party girl to the everyday good girl
>I didnt know what to do at that time then realized the message was vague and wasnt chaallenging to >the woman.
>I also think I wasnt persistent with keeping the momentum.mistake.
>REVIEW OF TEXT INTERACTION IF NOT YOU CAN SKIP TO SUMMARY
>2 week later:
>Theres a new party this weekend again.
>I re texted her w
>" hey whats up flake party this weekend "
You are acknowledging her flake MISTAKE. That puts her in the position of the Prize again. Never acknowledge flakes or anything else she does which might lower your value.
>her: who is this?
>Me: guess?
>her: No! seriusly who is this ?
>me: are you kidding me? dont tell me you give out your number to random guys? I feel so cheap.
>her: I dont know who is this?
I don´t know who is this = shit test
>me: Ok, theres a charmingly handsome man with very sexy look in his eyes.... You were over at my >house for a party with friends and you were supposed to show me something you promised me but you >chickend out.
>(I thought being challenging yet having her passively accept the frame if she says my name, but she >didnt respond)
>15 minutes no response
>me : Dont tell me you give up that easily.
>15 minutes no response
>me: thats too bad...you kindah seemed cool.Just wanted to invite you to the fundraiser party at my >place this weekend throwing one for our friend JAMES.
>40 minutes later = 2:00 AM
>her: Hey is it Sandros ?
>15 minutes later
>her: You didnt tell me If I got it right ?
>I didnt respond since I intiate text at 9:40pm and she responded late at 2 am and so by time she got >back to me was much later.
>I didnt feel like texting her that late without actual advantage of escalation or location etc...
>there was no gain to text her that late, I dont want woman to think Im not doing anything and waiting >for her , PFFFT!
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>SUMMARY
>I know I could have had sex but hesitated or missed something.
>they reach a point of horniness and I either try to change them to have sex that moment cause I feel >its momentum.
>she was midly drunk and very horny....so that wore away and attraction dissipated since I didnt make >proper moves.
>Im when it came to pulling same night this is where I fuck up.
>I think I have a blindspot.
>I appreciate any feedback appreciated.
>thanks
>-Papa Sandros[/quote]
You got betaised because she slowly by her game PUT YOU TO INVEST MORE ENERGY INTO HER THAN WHAT SHE INVESTED INTO YOU.
Also if you want relationships then don´t game for party girls. Do street game and game girls who are abable to have a certain continuity in the state ( hmm.. well as much as a girl can do that ) If you game party girls go for the kill same night and never, never go for "meeting her again"
Party girls go to parties to feel in state THAT NIGHT and then they give you the shit you just got if you go for continuity..
You need to improve the knowledge of what is FEMALE INNER EMOTIONAL STATE and FEMALE STATE CHANGES.. also knowing the distinction between Freak, Ho and Good Girl helps..
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Tuesday, May 4, 2010
Tuesday, April 27, 2010
swingers made me think of threesome game
I m looking into sex game,
I hate ebook or being to logical, yet simple and easy works for me, then leave it up to me to be creative :)
so I saw swinger by nina hartley.
her female psycology comes from experience her vids are better than any stupid e book.
I actually used her howe to make love to a woman first 10 minutes as a sexual frames alal topo redstack.
seriosuly she knows her stuff.
but her she has great examples how to fell comfortabl and how to escalate her comfort threshold to new things in sex.
for me its awesome cause its like whole new area and being a PUA is more like I can dominate this area too.
guys are stale in terms of just squirting, the excitement comes from the emotions of sex and unexpecteness and making it a movie for her as she were reading a erotic novel.
thats the type of experience you shoul;d be giving to her.
What guy is going to give her that????
very few.
9 1/2 weeks pushes it too much but its a great example, he should have built comfort , remeber in relationships the cycle is comfort and sexualness.
this is to be kept in constant spiking of the whole process.
DONT BE BUTTON PUSHING
but know what to do when time comes and make things happen....
you lead
you take initiative (thanks alley cat)
so as with greeeneys I plan on taking my sexual comfort thresshold to the next level with her....
like MRM says in situations where youve never done it act like youve been there and done it, adapt to the scenario. to avoid feeling insecure and in your head.
act as you go yet TAKE CALCULATED RISKS
thershold comfort to move further, reach levels , higher levels = excitement attraction.
even addiction.
use that analogy and read in10nse article as franco also comments.
swinggcatt might have some stuff but his push pull works well and for closing.
its basically arousing her and you pulliong back arousaing her and you pulling backl to make her confuse and hornty and wanting you to want it bad.
you escalate from there to avoid keeping it stale or you overgaming or buyers remorse.
I see that is difference of rapid closes, seeing when girls are that ready to fuck you lead.
Swingers vid taught me how far Im from being in game.
knowing this dynamic helps me analyze a structure of basis of how emoitons and sex can crete arrousal to a point of intensity.....even addiction of pleasure.
Im going to ask franco on that WWHD?
I hate ebook or being to logical, yet simple and easy works for me, then leave it up to me to be creative :)
so I saw swinger by nina hartley.
her female psycology comes from experience her vids are better than any stupid e book.
I actually used her howe to make love to a woman first 10 minutes as a sexual frames alal topo redstack.
seriosuly she knows her stuff.
but her she has great examples how to fell comfortabl and how to escalate her comfort threshold to new things in sex.
for me its awesome cause its like whole new area and being a PUA is more like I can dominate this area too.
guys are stale in terms of just squirting, the excitement comes from the emotions of sex and unexpecteness and making it a movie for her as she were reading a erotic novel.
thats the type of experience you shoul;d be giving to her.
What guy is going to give her that????
very few.
9 1/2 weeks pushes it too much but its a great example, he should have built comfort , remeber in relationships the cycle is comfort and sexualness.
this is to be kept in constant spiking of the whole process.
DONT BE BUTTON PUSHING
but know what to do when time comes and make things happen....
you lead
you take initiative (thanks alley cat)
so as with greeeneys I plan on taking my sexual comfort thresshold to the next level with her....
like MRM says in situations where youve never done it act like youve been there and done it, adapt to the scenario. to avoid feeling insecure and in your head.
act as you go yet TAKE CALCULATED RISKS
thershold comfort to move further, reach levels , higher levels = excitement attraction.
even addiction.
use that analogy and read in10nse article as franco also comments.
swinggcatt might have some stuff but his push pull works well and for closing.
its basically arousing her and you pulliong back arousaing her and you pulling backl to make her confuse and hornty and wanting you to want it bad.
you escalate from there to avoid keeping it stale or you overgaming or buyers remorse.
I see that is difference of rapid closes, seeing when girls are that ready to fuck you lead.
Swingers vid taught me how far Im from being in game.
knowing this dynamic helps me analyze a structure of basis of how emoitons and sex can crete arrousal to a point of intensity.....even addiction of pleasure.
Im going to ask franco on that WWHD?
Monday, April 26, 2010
Secret Society- TD
by Tyler Durden
Tyler Durden talks about the secret world of the player.
Many guys will dislike this, because it implies that women are sluts and untrustworthy. Well, I can only speak from my experience and report back what I've seen. I'm also posting in a semi-satirical tone - I haven't gone off the deepend..... yet... :)
A secret society exists. Around 52% of people on this earth are a part of it.
Of that 52%, 50% are women, 2% are men.
Of that 2%, 1% of those men are gay, the other 1% are players.
What I'm talking about is the sex secret society - and you are either *IN* or *OUT*.
SOME RULES OF THE SECRET SOCIETY:
1) Don't talk about the secret society.
2) The priority of the secret society is to have perpetually good emotions in all members.
3) Create shrowds around the secret society, like "all men are dogs". Hide the truth that women are far more likely to cheat than men.
4) If you are part of the secret society, you will never be denied anything at any point.
5) If you are not part of the secret society, you will scrap and beg for everything you get.
6) Communication in the secret society is less often verbal, and more often spoken through bodylanguage subcommunications, and verbal subcommunications that would only make sense to members. Any other way, and the 48% of men would pick up on it, and it would no longer be a secret.
7) At the first sign that someone who is not part of the secret society is possibly trying to pretend that he is, barate him with both love-rhetoric, and accusations of chauvanism and nit-witted-ness.
It's OK to cheat on someone who is not a part of the secret society, so long as it is for the purpose of fulfilling the needs of someone who is, or if it to fulfill your own needs and it is with someone who is a part of the secret society. Sleeping with a rare guy from the secret society is no worse than grinding with a girlfriend at a club and making out with her. "It doesn't count".
9) Nobody judges eachother in the secret society. There is no such thing as a slut. A slut is only as slutty as people who are NOT in the secret society are aware of.
10) Secret society members COME FIRST. If someone in the society is not having fun with an interaction, it is cut off. Conversely, if a secret society male is with a non-secret-society male, and a secret society female (all females) decides she wants sex from the secret society male, the friend of the female may have sex with the non-secret-society male, because EVERYONE in the interaction must feel good. However, if the non-secret-society male is blowing himself out so badly that he makes the female member feel very bad emotions, then the secret-society-male must face the consequences of bringing negative emotions into the equation, and lose out on his privilege for sex in that interaction, until he ditches the non-secret-society male. Bear minimum requirements for non-secret-society males being grandfathered in with the male member, is that he not qualify himself or make anyone feel uncomfortable. Failing to meet those requirements, both are blown out.
WHAT IS THE SECRET SOCIETY?
Women are repressed by men, and so must look out for themselves. They will take care of:
1) Their own sexual needs.
2) The sexual needs of anyone in the secret society.
3) The sexual needs of the few males who make the secret society possible ("players").
The secret society is what allows women to appear wholesome and allows them to screen for a long term provider/emotionaltampon.
Women hold off to find the perfect boyfriend, while sleeping with a guy who is likely sleeping with all of their friends, and their friends friends.
They also fuck their gay boyfriends or jerk them off or give them head. They're part of the secret society too, so they can't be left out.
EYE WITNESS ACCOUNTS FROM SECRET SOCIETY INSIDERS (based on dozens of interviews I did over the summer, with girls in London England, as well as some from my own experience as a player):
1) If you tell a girl that you're gay, and that you want to "see what it feels like to be with a girl", she'll sleep with you. She won't insist on using a condom either, unless you do. You're part of the secret society, where condoms aren't necessary because they are logical entities and not emotionally relevant.
2) If you subcommunicate that you are a part of the secret society, and tell the friend of your target "I'm really lonely. My girlfriend cheated on me, and I need to re-validate myself tonight", she'll tell her friend to fuck you. Her friend will realize from this that you are a part of the secret society, and she'll fuck you. Moreover, if the friend refuses, the ugly girl will offer you a blowjob to help you out.
3) If you manage to verbally subcommunicate that you are a member (its still subcommunication, because the verbal ways you communicate it aren't direct at all), the secret society members will gladly tell you all about their sexual exploits and adventures. As soon as you subcommunicate that you desire romance, she will immediately retract all of her previous statements (and she'll look completely congruent doing so), and downplay them that it was something she did just one time and that she's looking for a relationship.
PUA: "I love to go out and hook up. I hate it when girls try to run my life"..
HB: "Me too.. I hooked up with guys all last year.. My boyfriend tried to control me, but I do what I want.. My girlfriends all do it too."
PUA: "Really? Cause to be honest, I've always felt like I'm a romantic guy.. And girls always cheat on me.. I want to find a girl who won't cheat."
HB: "I would never cheat. Guys are dogs. I'm always loyal."
PUA: "But didn't you say..."
HB: "No, I said nothing."
PUA: "No, you said that you don't let your boyfriend control you and you do what you want."
HB: "No, I didn't mean that. I'm not a slut. I have no idea what you're talking about, I didn't say that."
4) If you are a member, and say that you are really lonely and you need someone to snuggle and makeout with, all members of the secret society will agree to do so with you. If you are a girl, you have privilege to snuggle and kiss and sleep in the same bed as all other girls. If you are gay, you can do the same. If it escalates to sex, its an accident and does not count. If you're a player, and you make girls around you emotional, and the friends are all in good emotions about it, they sleep with you. No one is a slut in the secret society, because the secret society does not judge.
5) If a group of girls living together find a guy who is in the secret society, they will all fuck him. They'll recommend him as an honourary secret society member, and enjoy him. Meanwhile they may be in relationships with non-secret society members that they've fallen in love with, however this is not an issue because nobody in the secret society judges and sex with people in the secret society does not count. If you are a secret society member now, but in the past enjoyed a romantic relationship, what you may not realize is the part that was left out of the romance novel story (due to rules no1&2 of the secret society code), which was that after you dropped her off your romantic star watching, a secret society member came by and fucked the shit out of her without a condom and gave her the money shot all over her face.
6) If a secret society male has a non member male friend, the friend of the girl who wants sex from the male member will have sex with the non-member even if she doesn't like him. However, rules state that if if the non-member is "creepy/scary" (kinos too much, leans in too much, asks dumb questions, tries too hard to impress, overqualifies), then the male member will be expected to return either alone or with another male member. Also, the male members must remember that positive emotions are always priority, and if he is alone he must still maintain the positive emotions of the female member who will not be getting sex, secret society rules not to be breached. Number 1 rule of the secret society, outside of not talking about it, is that EVERYONE maintains GOOD emotions.
THE UNDERLYING MISUNDERSTOOD TRUTH OF THE SECRET SOCIETY:
The 49% of men who live outside of the secret society don't understand the mental model of attraction of people who are in the secret society.
Men view attraction in their MALE MENTAL MODELS. They believe that attraction is "sexual aggression". They understand attraction as having a physical urge to have sex, and then mentally deciding that you will go after it.
They try to seduce women by touching and grabbing them, and getting them very horny. They try to seduce them in the SAME WAY that a woman would do well seducing THEM. They try to seduce them as if they were seducing a GUY. This sometimes works, and the propaganda is spread - "this is how to get chicks".
Secret society members will not fill them in, due to breach of the code.
What the secret society members are not telling you, is that they understand that most sex occurs when women are not sexually AGGRESSIVE, but sexually RECEPTIVE.
They understand that for women to be ready for sex, they need not feel horny, they need only feel EMOTIONAL.
They understand that women are not logical, and that they are emotional. They understand that for women sex is not a big deal at all, and that its their LOGIC that puts the breaks on it.
They understand that most women are afraid of sex because they lack TRUST, and because their LOGIC is putting on the breaks.
They disarm logic by making the women EMOTIONAL, so that their LOGIC (which is the BREAKS of emotion) becomes disarmed, and at the same time maintain TRUST, so that the emotions generated won't be interfered with.
Then they simply have sex, because although the women are not WANTING sex, they are too EMOTIONAL to DECLINE sex. Then, once they BEGIN to have a physical interaction, the women become horny and sexually aggressive as a result, and sex begins.
(NOTE: This is why girls must COCKBLOCK for eachother. Because they know that clubs are emotionally charged environments, and that it wouldn't take much for a guy to use her resulting sexual receptiveness to lay her. The guy may not be a guy that the girl would lay normally, were she feeling more logical, so the girls must look out for eachother. Guys don't need to do this because firstly, they will not be judged for sleeping around (no logic), secondly, they are sexually aggressive - not receptive - so their decisions will not be regretted later usually, and thirdly, because they do not need trust because they are not usually in any physical danger).
They also understand that value + trust + attraction = sex (rough lazy model).
Value = being someone in the secret society (it can also be SO many other things, but being a member can in some cases be sufficient)
Trust = not telegraphing interest
Attraction = increasing her buying temperature by making her emotional (emotionally aroused, not necessarily physically aroused.. the former will cause her to be too illogical to prevent you from causing the latter, when she's ready)
Don't tell anyone about this. All knowledge will be denied and you will be ridiculed.
Tyler Durden
Tyler Durden talks about the secret world of the player.
Many guys will dislike this, because it implies that women are sluts and untrustworthy. Well, I can only speak from my experience and report back what I've seen. I'm also posting in a semi-satirical tone - I haven't gone off the deepend..... yet... :)
A secret society exists. Around 52% of people on this earth are a part of it.
Of that 52%, 50% are women, 2% are men.
Of that 2%, 1% of those men are gay, the other 1% are players.
What I'm talking about is the sex secret society - and you are either *IN* or *OUT*.
SOME RULES OF THE SECRET SOCIETY:
1) Don't talk about the secret society.
2) The priority of the secret society is to have perpetually good emotions in all members.
3) Create shrowds around the secret society, like "all men are dogs". Hide the truth that women are far more likely to cheat than men.
4) If you are part of the secret society, you will never be denied anything at any point.
5) If you are not part of the secret society, you will scrap and beg for everything you get.
6) Communication in the secret society is less often verbal, and more often spoken through bodylanguage subcommunications, and verbal subcommunications that would only make sense to members. Any other way, and the 48% of men would pick up on it, and it would no longer be a secret.
7) At the first sign that someone who is not part of the secret society is possibly trying to pretend that he is, barate him with both love-rhetoric, and accusations of chauvanism and nit-witted-ness.
It's OK to cheat on someone who is not a part of the secret society, so long as it is for the purpose of fulfilling the needs of someone who is, or if it to fulfill your own needs and it is with someone who is a part of the secret society. Sleeping with a rare guy from the secret society is no worse than grinding with a girlfriend at a club and making out with her. "It doesn't count".
9) Nobody judges eachother in the secret society. There is no such thing as a slut. A slut is only as slutty as people who are NOT in the secret society are aware of.
10) Secret society members COME FIRST. If someone in the society is not having fun with an interaction, it is cut off. Conversely, if a secret society male is with a non-secret-society male, and a secret society female (all females) decides she wants sex from the secret society male, the friend of the female may have sex with the non-secret-society male, because EVERYONE in the interaction must feel good. However, if the non-secret-society male is blowing himself out so badly that he makes the female member feel very bad emotions, then the secret-society-male must face the consequences of bringing negative emotions into the equation, and lose out on his privilege for sex in that interaction, until he ditches the non-secret-society male. Bear minimum requirements for non-secret-society males being grandfathered in with the male member, is that he not qualify himself or make anyone feel uncomfortable. Failing to meet those requirements, both are blown out.
WHAT IS THE SECRET SOCIETY?
Women are repressed by men, and so must look out for themselves. They will take care of:
1) Their own sexual needs.
2) The sexual needs of anyone in the secret society.
3) The sexual needs of the few males who make the secret society possible ("players").
The secret society is what allows women to appear wholesome and allows them to screen for a long term provider/emotionaltampon.
Women hold off to find the perfect boyfriend, while sleeping with a guy who is likely sleeping with all of their friends, and their friends friends.
They also fuck their gay boyfriends or jerk them off or give them head. They're part of the secret society too, so they can't be left out.
EYE WITNESS ACCOUNTS FROM SECRET SOCIETY INSIDERS (based on dozens of interviews I did over the summer, with girls in London England, as well as some from my own experience as a player):
1) If you tell a girl that you're gay, and that you want to "see what it feels like to be with a girl", she'll sleep with you. She won't insist on using a condom either, unless you do. You're part of the secret society, where condoms aren't necessary because they are logical entities and not emotionally relevant.
2) If you subcommunicate that you are a part of the secret society, and tell the friend of your target "I'm really lonely. My girlfriend cheated on me, and I need to re-validate myself tonight", she'll tell her friend to fuck you. Her friend will realize from this that you are a part of the secret society, and she'll fuck you. Moreover, if the friend refuses, the ugly girl will offer you a blowjob to help you out.
3) If you manage to verbally subcommunicate that you are a member (its still subcommunication, because the verbal ways you communicate it aren't direct at all), the secret society members will gladly tell you all about their sexual exploits and adventures. As soon as you subcommunicate that you desire romance, she will immediately retract all of her previous statements (and she'll look completely congruent doing so), and downplay them that it was something she did just one time and that she's looking for a relationship.
PUA: "I love to go out and hook up. I hate it when girls try to run my life"..
HB: "Me too.. I hooked up with guys all last year.. My boyfriend tried to control me, but I do what I want.. My girlfriends all do it too."
PUA: "Really? Cause to be honest, I've always felt like I'm a romantic guy.. And girls always cheat on me.. I want to find a girl who won't cheat."
HB: "I would never cheat. Guys are dogs. I'm always loyal."
PUA: "But didn't you say..."
HB: "No, I said nothing."
PUA: "No, you said that you don't let your boyfriend control you and you do what you want."
HB: "No, I didn't mean that. I'm not a slut. I have no idea what you're talking about, I didn't say that."
4) If you are a member, and say that you are really lonely and you need someone to snuggle and makeout with, all members of the secret society will agree to do so with you. If you are a girl, you have privilege to snuggle and kiss and sleep in the same bed as all other girls. If you are gay, you can do the same. If it escalates to sex, its an accident and does not count. If you're a player, and you make girls around you emotional, and the friends are all in good emotions about it, they sleep with you. No one is a slut in the secret society, because the secret society does not judge.
5) If a group of girls living together find a guy who is in the secret society, they will all fuck him. They'll recommend him as an honourary secret society member, and enjoy him. Meanwhile they may be in relationships with non-secret society members that they've fallen in love with, however this is not an issue because nobody in the secret society judges and sex with people in the secret society does not count. If you are a secret society member now, but in the past enjoyed a romantic relationship, what you may not realize is the part that was left out of the romance novel story (due to rules no1&2 of the secret society code), which was that after you dropped her off your romantic star watching, a secret society member came by and fucked the shit out of her without a condom and gave her the money shot all over her face.
6) If a secret society male has a non member male friend, the friend of the girl who wants sex from the male member will have sex with the non-member even if she doesn't like him. However, rules state that if if the non-member is "creepy/scary" (kinos too much, leans in too much, asks dumb questions, tries too hard to impress, overqualifies), then the male member will be expected to return either alone or with another male member. Also, the male members must remember that positive emotions are always priority, and if he is alone he must still maintain the positive emotions of the female member who will not be getting sex, secret society rules not to be breached. Number 1 rule of the secret society, outside of not talking about it, is that EVERYONE maintains GOOD emotions.
THE UNDERLYING MISUNDERSTOOD TRUTH OF THE SECRET SOCIETY:
The 49% of men who live outside of the secret society don't understand the mental model of attraction of people who are in the secret society.
Men view attraction in their MALE MENTAL MODELS. They believe that attraction is "sexual aggression". They understand attraction as having a physical urge to have sex, and then mentally deciding that you will go after it.
They try to seduce women by touching and grabbing them, and getting them very horny. They try to seduce them in the SAME WAY that a woman would do well seducing THEM. They try to seduce them as if they were seducing a GUY. This sometimes works, and the propaganda is spread - "this is how to get chicks".
Secret society members will not fill them in, due to breach of the code.
What the secret society members are not telling you, is that they understand that most sex occurs when women are not sexually AGGRESSIVE, but sexually RECEPTIVE.
They understand that for women to be ready for sex, they need not feel horny, they need only feel EMOTIONAL.
They understand that women are not logical, and that they are emotional. They understand that for women sex is not a big deal at all, and that its their LOGIC that puts the breaks on it.
They understand that most women are afraid of sex because they lack TRUST, and because their LOGIC is putting on the breaks.
They disarm logic by making the women EMOTIONAL, so that their LOGIC (which is the BREAKS of emotion) becomes disarmed, and at the same time maintain TRUST, so that the emotions generated won't be interfered with.
Then they simply have sex, because although the women are not WANTING sex, they are too EMOTIONAL to DECLINE sex. Then, once they BEGIN to have a physical interaction, the women become horny and sexually aggressive as a result, and sex begins.
(NOTE: This is why girls must COCKBLOCK for eachother. Because they know that clubs are emotionally charged environments, and that it wouldn't take much for a guy to use her resulting sexual receptiveness to lay her. The guy may not be a guy that the girl would lay normally, were she feeling more logical, so the girls must look out for eachother. Guys don't need to do this because firstly, they will not be judged for sleeping around (no logic), secondly, they are sexually aggressive - not receptive - so their decisions will not be regretted later usually, and thirdly, because they do not need trust because they are not usually in any physical danger).
They also understand that value + trust + attraction = sex (rough lazy model).
Value = being someone in the secret society (it can also be SO many other things, but being a member can in some cases be sufficient)
Trust = not telegraphing interest
Attraction = increasing her buying temperature by making her emotional (emotionally aroused, not necessarily physically aroused.. the former will cause her to be too illogical to prevent you from causing the latter, when she's ready)
Don't tell anyone about this. All knowledge will be denied and you will be ridiculed.
Tyler Durden
Sexualizing Your Game: How To’s and Same Night Lay Guidelines
Sexualizing Your Game: How To’s
Posted at May 22, 2007
Ok, early in my PU career a few things happened that required me to focus on SNL’s. One was that my car blew up on my first f-close out of bootcamp.
The second was, even when I had access to a car, I could get girls numbers and even timebridge’s but I could FEEL on the day2’s that there was no sexual energy so they would drag out to day3’s, day4’s. Naturally, I said “Fuck that shit!”
And, put on my scientist hat to design in-field experiments to 1) Get same night sex because I didn’t know when I’d have access to a car or 2) Make Day2’s little more than coming to my place for sex
Then, I read “My Secret Garden” and “Way of the Superior Man” and both of them rocked my world. Those are must reads for every PUA.
So, how do you get sexual in the sarge? There’s a direct way (which Sinn has been using for a few weeks now and I’m sure he’ll post about it) and then there’s an Indirect way which relies on outside framing ideas and presuppositions (from the Milton Model created by Bandler).
Here’s my normal way of doing it:
Opener…
DHV Spike Stories…
BUT, my DHV spike stories contain references to a past girlfriend who was a dancer. The presups are that 1) she’s hot 2) she can have any guy but she wants me and 3) she’s a very sexual person
At this point, if we’re still talking I do “sleepy eyes” ala ijjjjjji and make my movements slow and deliberate with LOTS of eye contact and shoulder and lower back kino.
At the first opportunity (mini-isolation or full) I run my version of Strawberry Fields. I’m not saying she’s a sexual being. It’s the test!
When I give her the results I often whisper them into her ear with my hand on her lowerback. Then, I push her away.
If this goes well I start bouncing between my comfort stack and more sexual presupps. Usually by this time you can start saying more direct sexual talk (“If your friends weren’t here I’d spank you for being such a bad girl.”)
I think of this as an interlacing spiral moving upwards to sex. Comfort, Sex. Comfort, Sex. Comfort, Sex. In lock-step.
I try to get “Rings on Fingers” in after one comfort routine. “Rings on Fingers” does 3 things:
1) It tells her she is sexually aggressive when she sees someone she’s attracted to…
2) It tells her your are NOT judgmental
3) It says that BOTH of you are good at keeping secrets
The change in her demeanor is visible. If you’ve ever done it you’ll know what I’m talking about. The best way I can describe it is “She softens and then glows.”
Now, if I haven’t gotten the Same Night Lay Logistics info by this time then I make sure to do it now. (look for “Same Night Lay” guidelines to find out those questions)
Next, I’ll start laying down my Identity Stack which includes my Cosmo Routine I based off of Bandler’s SRT. I’ve shared this in my eCoaching program. It MIGHT be on the Lounge as well.
Statements like “I’m trying so hard not to kiss you right now” work well at this point. Kiss tests like going cheek-to-cheek to tell her something can often lead to what appears to be a spontaneous kiss, too.
One way to know if you’re out of lock-step in terms of sexual escalation and comfort is if she says things like, “Don’t you want to know anything about me?” or “I hardly know you.” – throttle back and run some more comfort.
The rest of the logistical info can be found here.
~ Captain Jack ~
Same Night Lay Guidelines
Posted at February 14, 2007 Hola PUAs,
As promised, my insights on SNL’s.
The first major attitude shift is this: Women don’t go to clubs/bars only to listen to music, drink or talk to friends. They can do all of those at home or at a friends house. They go because they want/need sex and they want to be picked up.
Debriefing shows they would have sex the same night more often were the feelings there. Your job, fellow pirate, is to create the feelings, create the opportunity and do so in a manner that seems so natural and easy that it seems like it all just fell into place.
Sinn referred to this when he said, “Captain Jack Method: Hang out till sex happens.”
First I want to tell you that there IS a difference between Same-Night-Lays (SNL) and One Night Stands (ONS).
ONS skips comfort which usually results in buyer’s remorse. For all the 4-5 hours of precious time you invested you get one lay. Even worse, if you mismanage the escalation and trigger asd/lmr that you can’t get through, you’ll get zero lays.
I’ve never had any problems seeing/dating a girl who I laid the same night because I qualify and build comfort.
I’ll take this from the top…
You need to get there early (in Tejas, that means no later than 10:00) because some of your sets will fail the SNL screening statements (more on that later) and you’ll need to close out with a TimeBridge, stay the obligatory 5-10 minutes to solidify and move on.
You should focus on mixed sets. This may seem counter-intuitive but experience has shown me this is true. Here’s why: In all girl sets they often pile into one car. But, in mixed sets you have a greater chance of girls taking their own car and/or meeting the group later.
Do a little thought experiment: How many times have you witnessed a girl walking into the bar alone…she’s looking for someone…she finds them and before you know it she is seated with a 4-5 mixed set.
You open the group in the standard way, do all the normal things you’d do until you hit the “How do you guys know each other?” waypoint. If she’s not there with someone, then isolate (or atleast get mini-isolation.)
Now that you are in isolation it’s time to start with the sexual framing. I use my version of Strawberry fields and “Rings on Fingers” to frame things sexually and I start seeding the TB.
It is supremely important that you don’t convey any “judgmentalism” regarding sex, sexual preferences or lifestyles in any way, shape or form.
You also don’t want to place too much importance on sex by talking about it or calling it a “special thing between two people” or any silly shit like that. The underlying attitude is sex is normal, healthy, fun and about to happen soon.
At the begining of C1 I start to screen for logistics issues…I listen for answers to these questions or ask them outright.
* Who did she ride with. (Best answer is, of course, alone in her car.)
* What time does she need to get up in the morning. (Best answer, later the better.)
(These things just make it easier. The better you get the more willing girls are to ignore things like riding home with guys she just met or getting up early. I know it’s hard to believe but experience proves it true.)
If the vibe is sexual and I feel like there are no obvious excuses for her not to come home with me (have to work early is the main one) I’ll stay around. If not, then I’m looking for a new set. This needs to be run super-tight. I’m talking 20 minutes in you’re making this decision because you need to be solidly in comfort by 12:30 (for venues that close at 2:00). This 1.5 hours is the MAIN (but not only) factor which distinguishes this from ONS (the other being non-sexual qualification and peer befriending.) I call 12:30 to 2:00 “Putting my time in…”
Always TimeBridge, it makes the SNL easier because it lessens asd and lmr.
As it gets closer to closing time 1:20-1:30 I start saying things like, “I don’t want the night to end, I’m really enjoying myself.”
If she agrees or says nothing you can say, “Let’s hang out at my place. I have xyz alcoholic drinks and we can watch that show I was telling you about.”
Or, you can say, “I’m kinda hungry.”
You’re saying this to see what kind of reaction you get. She may go ahead and propose eating somewhere. (Though, I’ve stopped doing this almost a year ago because I lost a few “sure” lays as the sexual tension lessened, the tiredness set in and the alcohol (and fun mode) wore off.)
The after hours club is also a good proposal. I’ve used this one quite a few times. It’s perfect because you have to swing past your place to get alcohol before heading out. And, oh by the way, the club doesn’t even open til 3am so we got 45 minutes to burn. Let’s see, how are we gonna kill 45 minutes? I know, we’ll have sex! Ha ha.
But, one of my favorite tactics (if she drove) is to get her to give me a ride home. Then, while in the parking lot you can say “Come in for a bit. You can use the restroom and have some water before you head home.” Then, grab her keys, turn off the car and get out.
(What’s that? Do I hear you worrying about your car? Don’t worry about it dude, you’re going to get laid! Have a friend take you back to your car if need be. Or, better yet, have the girl do it that night.)
Logistics separate the men from the boys (or the mPUAs)
The best mental image I can give you here is “Baby Steps.”
I rarely tell them where/how far away I live. Some of the places I go to are a good 35-40 minutes away. Sinn and I have pulled 2 or 3 times SNL’s from those locations so he can attest to my skill in that area.
Fidelio, KinoMaster, and Tribulus have all witnessed with their own eyes me doing this, multiple times, as well.
The goal is to get her to the seduction location and make it look like it sorta just happened. This is why the “gimme a ride home” and the “after hours venue, oh wait, gotta go home and get alcohol” tactics work so well.
Hopefully, you started a good kino progression early in the sarge. Because once she’s in your place it’s time to amp it up a little bit.
Hot/cold is the order of the day. Make out, pull back, continue with your comfort material. Tease her mercilessly.
Have your LMR skills honed because you’ll almost surely have to use them.
The good news is: If you don’t get the lay, the day2 is almost assuredly going to be her coming straight over to have sex with you and that’s my kinda date.
~ Captain Jack ~
Posted at May 22, 2007
Ok, early in my PU career a few things happened that required me to focus on SNL’s. One was that my car blew up on my first f-close out of bootcamp.
The second was, even when I had access to a car, I could get girls numbers and even timebridge’s but I could FEEL on the day2’s that there was no sexual energy so they would drag out to day3’s, day4’s. Naturally, I said “Fuck that shit!”
And, put on my scientist hat to design in-field experiments to 1) Get same night sex because I didn’t know when I’d have access to a car or 2) Make Day2’s little more than coming to my place for sex
Then, I read “My Secret Garden” and “Way of the Superior Man” and both of them rocked my world. Those are must reads for every PUA.
So, how do you get sexual in the sarge? There’s a direct way (which Sinn has been using for a few weeks now and I’m sure he’ll post about it) and then there’s an Indirect way which relies on outside framing ideas and presuppositions (from the Milton Model created by Bandler).
Here’s my normal way of doing it:
Opener…
DHV Spike Stories…
BUT, my DHV spike stories contain references to a past girlfriend who was a dancer. The presups are that 1) she’s hot 2) she can have any guy but she wants me and 3) she’s a very sexual person
At this point, if we’re still talking I do “sleepy eyes” ala ijjjjjji and make my movements slow and deliberate with LOTS of eye contact and shoulder and lower back kino.
At the first opportunity (mini-isolation or full) I run my version of Strawberry Fields. I’m not saying she’s a sexual being. It’s the test!
When I give her the results I often whisper them into her ear with my hand on her lowerback. Then, I push her away.
If this goes well I start bouncing between my comfort stack and more sexual presupps. Usually by this time you can start saying more direct sexual talk (“If your friends weren’t here I’d spank you for being such a bad girl.”)
I think of this as an interlacing spiral moving upwards to sex. Comfort, Sex. Comfort, Sex. Comfort, Sex. In lock-step.
I try to get “Rings on Fingers” in after one comfort routine. “Rings on Fingers” does 3 things:
1) It tells her she is sexually aggressive when she sees someone she’s attracted to…
2) It tells her your are NOT judgmental
3) It says that BOTH of you are good at keeping secrets
The change in her demeanor is visible. If you’ve ever done it you’ll know what I’m talking about. The best way I can describe it is “She softens and then glows.”
Now, if I haven’t gotten the Same Night Lay Logistics info by this time then I make sure to do it now. (look for “Same Night Lay” guidelines to find out those questions)
Next, I’ll start laying down my Identity Stack which includes my Cosmo Routine I based off of Bandler’s SRT. I’ve shared this in my eCoaching program. It MIGHT be on the Lounge as well.
Statements like “I’m trying so hard not to kiss you right now” work well at this point. Kiss tests like going cheek-to-cheek to tell her something can often lead to what appears to be a spontaneous kiss, too.
One way to know if you’re out of lock-step in terms of sexual escalation and comfort is if she says things like, “Don’t you want to know anything about me?” or “I hardly know you.” – throttle back and run some more comfort.
The rest of the logistical info can be found here.
~ Captain Jack ~
Same Night Lay Guidelines
Posted at February 14, 2007 Hola PUAs,
As promised, my insights on SNL’s.
The first major attitude shift is this: Women don’t go to clubs/bars only to listen to music, drink or talk to friends. They can do all of those at home or at a friends house. They go because they want/need sex and they want to be picked up.
Debriefing shows they would have sex the same night more often were the feelings there. Your job, fellow pirate, is to create the feelings, create the opportunity and do so in a manner that seems so natural and easy that it seems like it all just fell into place.
Sinn referred to this when he said, “Captain Jack Method: Hang out till sex happens.”
First I want to tell you that there IS a difference between Same-Night-Lays (SNL) and One Night Stands (ONS).
ONS skips comfort which usually results in buyer’s remorse. For all the 4-5 hours of precious time you invested you get one lay. Even worse, if you mismanage the escalation and trigger asd/lmr that you can’t get through, you’ll get zero lays.
I’ve never had any problems seeing/dating a girl who I laid the same night because I qualify and build comfort.
I’ll take this from the top…
You need to get there early (in Tejas, that means no later than 10:00) because some of your sets will fail the SNL screening statements (more on that later) and you’ll need to close out with a TimeBridge, stay the obligatory 5-10 minutes to solidify and move on.
You should focus on mixed sets. This may seem counter-intuitive but experience has shown me this is true. Here’s why: In all girl sets they often pile into one car. But, in mixed sets you have a greater chance of girls taking their own car and/or meeting the group later.
Do a little thought experiment: How many times have you witnessed a girl walking into the bar alone…she’s looking for someone…she finds them and before you know it she is seated with a 4-5 mixed set.
You open the group in the standard way, do all the normal things you’d do until you hit the “How do you guys know each other?” waypoint. If she’s not there with someone, then isolate (or atleast get mini-isolation.)
Now that you are in isolation it’s time to start with the sexual framing. I use my version of Strawberry fields and “Rings on Fingers” to frame things sexually and I start seeding the TB.
It is supremely important that you don’t convey any “judgmentalism” regarding sex, sexual preferences or lifestyles in any way, shape or form.
You also don’t want to place too much importance on sex by talking about it or calling it a “special thing between two people” or any silly shit like that. The underlying attitude is sex is normal, healthy, fun and about to happen soon.
At the begining of C1 I start to screen for logistics issues…I listen for answers to these questions or ask them outright.
* Who did she ride with. (Best answer is, of course, alone in her car.)
* What time does she need to get up in the morning. (Best answer, later the better.)
(These things just make it easier. The better you get the more willing girls are to ignore things like riding home with guys she just met or getting up early. I know it’s hard to believe but experience proves it true.)
If the vibe is sexual and I feel like there are no obvious excuses for her not to come home with me (have to work early is the main one) I’ll stay around. If not, then I’m looking for a new set. This needs to be run super-tight. I’m talking 20 minutes in you’re making this decision because you need to be solidly in comfort by 12:30 (for venues that close at 2:00). This 1.5 hours is the MAIN (but not only) factor which distinguishes this from ONS (the other being non-sexual qualification and peer befriending.) I call 12:30 to 2:00 “Putting my time in…”
Always TimeBridge, it makes the SNL easier because it lessens asd and lmr.
As it gets closer to closing time 1:20-1:30 I start saying things like, “I don’t want the night to end, I’m really enjoying myself.”
If she agrees or says nothing you can say, “Let’s hang out at my place. I have xyz alcoholic drinks and we can watch that show I was telling you about.”
Or, you can say, “I’m kinda hungry.”
You’re saying this to see what kind of reaction you get. She may go ahead and propose eating somewhere. (Though, I’ve stopped doing this almost a year ago because I lost a few “sure” lays as the sexual tension lessened, the tiredness set in and the alcohol (and fun mode) wore off.)
The after hours club is also a good proposal. I’ve used this one quite a few times. It’s perfect because you have to swing past your place to get alcohol before heading out. And, oh by the way, the club doesn’t even open til 3am so we got 45 minutes to burn. Let’s see, how are we gonna kill 45 minutes? I know, we’ll have sex! Ha ha.
But, one of my favorite tactics (if she drove) is to get her to give me a ride home. Then, while in the parking lot you can say “Come in for a bit. You can use the restroom and have some water before you head home.” Then, grab her keys, turn off the car and get out.
(What’s that? Do I hear you worrying about your car? Don’t worry about it dude, you’re going to get laid! Have a friend take you back to your car if need be. Or, better yet, have the girl do it that night.)
Logistics separate the men from the boys (or the mPUAs)
The best mental image I can give you here is “Baby Steps.”
I rarely tell them where/how far away I live. Some of the places I go to are a good 35-40 minutes away. Sinn and I have pulled 2 or 3 times SNL’s from those locations so he can attest to my skill in that area.
Fidelio, KinoMaster, and Tribulus have all witnessed with their own eyes me doing this, multiple times, as well.
The goal is to get her to the seduction location and make it look like it sorta just happened. This is why the “gimme a ride home” and the “after hours venue, oh wait, gotta go home and get alcohol” tactics work so well.
Hopefully, you started a good kino progression early in the sarge. Because once she’s in your place it’s time to amp it up a little bit.
Hot/cold is the order of the day. Make out, pull back, continue with your comfort material. Tease her mercilessly.
Have your LMR skills honed because you’ll almost surely have to use them.
The good news is: If you don’t get the lay, the day2 is almost assuredly going to be her coming straight over to have sex with you and that’s my kinda date.
~ Captain Jack ~
Saturday, April 10, 2010
Sandrospua Line of the day-
"Thats pretty cool.....Are you being yourself or are you saying that for me to like you"
I learned that from Sinn, I think its a subtel big Qualifier I ALWAYS used infield.
The thing with strippers is if you can seduce them you can seduce almost any girl to a 10.
when I used to go out and do stripper game I would get awesome at teasing pulling back to be a challenge. I would calibrate using magicians choice to keep spark of friendliness, coolness, sexual positivity to make her feel sexy and yet be herself.
sinn taught me is with hired guns you have to talk to them without disrupting their front of hired gun.
that is they have 2 personalities or talking to 2 people within the girl...
So you talk to the girl who is hired gun and to the real girl to cause attention that you are different (attraction).
So like in verbal attraction theres that push pull going to keep things exciting and mysterious and not boring, takeaways are key to make her chase and open loops.
Immprov class is important so looking into it.
I used to use modified mystery's and vh-1 thing but I wasnt as pushy as they were, Used DHV that my ex was a stripper and to go make money. I also did a subtle dhv of timebridge that I was waiting for a friend to pickup some goods and go out to a cool bar later.....then I changed subject.almost always avoid customer frame.do jealousy plot line and run sexy bodylanguage to flirt with them back.
I think stripper can seduce other women, and are masters at seduction.
I think I stole some of that and used it on girls and it works but Im trying to remember ,no worries I will post.
I remember I ran within an hour and in the middle of the shift change I got a girl attracted that she disarmed her hired gun supossedley and sat down next to me to seek comfort... I wasnt sure if she was being genuine or still part of building trust or conversation. I wasnt sexual at all only in bosylanguage cues, like CJ's suggests w girls.
So as a pussy with no experience I left the club and seem bored and disapeared.
I guess disappointed and loss of attraction.
things are going to change this month.
I was always nervous but it went away......I think its a mental thing.
I learned that from Sinn, I think its a subtel big Qualifier I ALWAYS used infield.
The thing with strippers is if you can seduce them you can seduce almost any girl to a 10.
when I used to go out and do stripper game I would get awesome at teasing pulling back to be a challenge. I would calibrate using magicians choice to keep spark of friendliness, coolness, sexual positivity to make her feel sexy and yet be herself.
sinn taught me is with hired guns you have to talk to them without disrupting their front of hired gun.
that is they have 2 personalities or talking to 2 people within the girl...
So you talk to the girl who is hired gun and to the real girl to cause attention that you are different (attraction).
So like in verbal attraction theres that push pull going to keep things exciting and mysterious and not boring, takeaways are key to make her chase and open loops.
Immprov class is important so looking into it.
I used to use modified mystery's and vh-1 thing but I wasnt as pushy as they were, Used DHV that my ex was a stripper and to go make money. I also did a subtle dhv of timebridge that I was waiting for a friend to pickup some goods and go out to a cool bar later.....then I changed subject.almost always avoid customer frame.do jealousy plot line and run sexy bodylanguage to flirt with them back.
I think stripper can seduce other women, and are masters at seduction.
I think I stole some of that and used it on girls and it works but Im trying to remember ,no worries I will post.
I remember I ran within an hour and in the middle of the shift change I got a girl attracted that she disarmed her hired gun supossedley and sat down next to me to seek comfort... I wasnt sure if she was being genuine or still part of building trust or conversation. I wasnt sexual at all only in bosylanguage cues, like CJ's suggests w girls.
So as a pussy with no experience I left the club and seem bored and disapeared.
I guess disappointed and loss of attraction.
things are going to change this month.
I was always nervous but it went away......I think its a mental thing.
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