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Saturday, January 17, 2009
Can You Really Seduce A Stranger in 6 Minutes?

Hey guys,

Wanted to drop you a quick line today to talk about what's possible.

When I first got started in The Secret Underground Internet Seduction Community, I thought it was really difficult just to start a conversation with a stranger. Well 6 years later things are a little different, and I want to share this story from Vegas with everyone, not to brag, but to show you that ANYTHING is possible. Even consistent 6 minute seductions.

As many of you may know, I made the horrible decision to stay in Vegas for 4 days in between my first two 12 Months To Mastery bootcamps.(To learn why this was a bad idea check out my blog post on The Vegas Tipping point at http://sinnsofattraction.blogspot.com/2009/01/vegas-tipping-point.html ) Well Tuesday night Priest and I decided to hit the best party in town. Pure at Caesar's Palace. At Pure I did a number of approaches and nothing was going that well. Priest and I had a 2 set going but my girl was being way too ADD and she wasn't hot enough to get away with it :) So at around 2:30, I decide if we're going to keep gaming, we should be gaming at our hotel.

That's lesson number 1 for those of you looking to get laid fast! Know your logistics and keep them as favorable as possible. It's much harder to pull a girl from a club to a different hotel. If you can just go up an elevator, the pull becomes much easier.

So we head back to The Hard Rock. The Circle Bar was actually fairly lively for a Tuesday at 3 AM. There were a few sets and I start to look for girls who look bored, sexual, or like they want to trade up. Girls often settle for guys earlier in the night and then decide they don't like them later on. I want to find those girls. What I do to find these girls is make a rotation of the bar. However, you don't want it to look like you're "on the prowl" so you have to make a confused face like you're looking for a friend of yours. This is key to retaining social value.

The next part of super fast lays, is eye contact. You want to make searing, burning eye contact with as many girls as possible. Just make sure you still keep a smile on your face. You're looking for one of two responses. You want to approach girls who quickly break eye contact by looking down. This is a sign of sexual submission. Or you want to find girls who look away and then look back. There was a group of 3 hotties and as I was walking by, the blonde looked at me and then looked back as I walked by. I take an extra step, check my phone just cause I'm procrastinating and walk over.

I want to mention the next key point for super fast lays. Fashion and stereotyping. I was wearing a black pinstriped blazer with zippers all over it. Under that I had on a T-shirt I found in Australia with Sienna Miller flipping the bird topless, a pair of True Religion distressed jeans and my old school New Rocks. There's nothing spectacular about the outfit but it stands out without being weird. As usual I was the best dressed guy in the venue and the girls notice. If you don't get stared at or opened because of your fashion, you're doing something wrong. There are tons of great resources out there from style.com, to kinowear.com. There's no excuse for bad style, or not having an overall theme/stereotype to your look. Gone are the days when we can pretend fashion and presentation doesn't matter to getting laid. It does matter, and it's fully within your control.

After the eye contact I walked back over and said "hi" the girl immediately started telling me that she worked as a cocktail waitress at Treasure Island, she never goes out, and she's only here cause her brother's girlfriend(The Asian girl to her left) dragged her out. This is what's known as her qualifying herself to me off the opener. I now know she's attracted, it's 3 AM and she's with her brother's girlfriend. All signs are go, for the 10 minute lay. Then she asks me if I'm gay.

I get the gay thing once or twice a week, it's not a horrible problem as it allows me to escalate super fast. I say " I'm not gay and I'll prove it. Close your eyes." and then I kiss her. She practically sucks my face off. So I decide it's super on, and I'm gonna go for the 5 minute pull. I say " What are you guys up to right now?" She responds that they're waiting for her brother. I say "cool, shit I forgot my cigarettes upstairs. I'm gonna go get them." She starts to freak out her that I'm leaving, which is exactly what I wanted. this is a very subtle use of a take-away. Here I use it to gain emotional momentum to get her to come upstairs with me. She says " no, don't go! We'll get one down here." I say " Naw I only smoke Marlboro's, come upstairs with me to grab em. We'll be back before your brother gets here." She asks her friends if they're cool with that and away we go. Here, I just create some excuse for plausible deniability. As you can see it wasn't even that good of an excuse. But it worked.

Meet to elevator 3 minutes.

In the Elevator I ramp arousal. This is another key to quickies. I slam the girl against the wall, makeout with her and feel her up. Then as soon as we get to floor 4, I walk out of the elevator fast. This is a HUGE sexual push/pull. She gets aroused and starts to feel good and then it's gone. We get into the room and I throw her on the bed and pin her arms above her head. I go for the boobs then she says " When are you gonna fuck me? Before or after we smoke a cigarette? I laugh and we have sex. I look at the clock as I'm inside her and it's literally 6 minutes from when I checked my phone before going into the set.

I never would have imagined this was possible 6 years ago. But these situations happen to me all the time now. And they can happen to you too. The lesson to take out of this is not just controlling logistics in your favor, using eye contact to screen approaches, or ramping arousal as you're pulling. The real idea is that results like this are possible. A lot of times we read things like the "7 hour rule" or a girl tells us she doesn't sleep with guys right away and we get discouraged. The truth is seductions like this happen all over the world EVERY night of the week. It's just up to you to get out there and make it happen.

Til next time,

S
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Thursday, July 03, 2008
FUR: Handjob Interuptus...

I often complain. Longtime readers of my blog can no doubt remember tons of experiences where I complained about airlines, lack of sleep, etc... But the biggest thing I complain about to my friends is Las Vegas. See I have a love/hate relationship with Vegas. I love it because it allows me to indulge in all of my worst vices. But I hate it because I always end up feeling like a cigarette butt about two days in. So naturally when Moxie was leaving and he suggested going to Vegas for his blow out going away celebration I was in.

Fast forward through 5 days of debauchery and not coming home til the sun was out and we arrive at last Saturday night. We decided that since we were staying at the MGM we should take advantage of logistics and go to Studio 54. This was a mistake. I have NEVER seen so many ugly people in the same place ever. Seriously it was like a retarded leper colony reunion. It was the entire collection of " My father should have pulled out" trading cards. I'm still getting shivers thinking about it. And we got to pay a $20 cover because it was 12:01 and our passes were only good til 12...

So we do what all men in Vegas do when confronted with a time crunch and lack of options. We went to the Hard Rock Circle bar. I'm pretty pissed off at this point so I'm looking to open as quickly as possible. I open a 2 set with a short ugly girl and a hot blonde in a corset. I point out that she's short. They say they're going to meet they're friends and I should come. I meet another 5 girls and Moxie rolls over. Now we're just vibing until I isolate the corset girl and run strawberry fields on her. Then I pull her hair and she asks me what my sign is.

Me: Guess.
Her: Scorpio
Me: No way, I can't believe you guessed scorpio.
Her: Are you a scorpio?
Me: No Libra...
Her: I'm a scorpio we match sexually!

I tell her I'm really bad in bed and then pull her into me and pull her hair. This is something I do a lot. Verbally disqualifying myself sexually while sexually escalating to show her that I will fuck her shit up. It's a sexual version of push/pull except you disqualify yourself instead of her.

Moxie is pretty in with another tall hot blonde in the set and the ugs are getting restless. This was annoying because I had spent damn near 10 minutes talking to the ugs and making sure they were cool. I thought I had built a good rapport. My girl tries to number close me for sex the next morning. I smell a flake so I number close and then we walk with them to the outer ring of the casino. They say they're going to Mandalay Bay. We're down. I make out with my girl. But the ugs are plotting something. I can see it. I try to pull our girls back to the hotel and hear what would become the mantra of the night " I want to but I can't leave my friends." I go back in on the ugs and make them laugh for a few minutes then tell them ask for permission to take their friends away. The short ug I opened says in front of my girl " She can do whatever she wants" but she says it in the way that it actually means " I will hat you forever and tell everyone you're a huge slut if you go with these guys." So no go and eventually I realize we can't go with them cause the ugs won't have it and they won't leave with us either. A logistical blow out. Next set.

The next set I open is a blonde walking by. I open her by poking her in the stomach and then clawing her in. She's super attracted super fast and I'm thinking logistics. I want to make a point here. Whenever you open a single you can get her attracted enough that she will handle the obstacles for you. But you have to ask who they are. I ask her who she's here with. She lives in Vegas but is staying at the Hard Rock with some guy friends, who are hitting on some girls. Cool seems easy right? Wrong! She won't let me go to her room, she won't leave to come to mine, the bathroom has an attendent. Finally I remember a girl I banged out by the pool here one night. We walk past the guy cleaning the floor out the door that should be locked and we lay down on some lounge chairs. She straddles me, I pull her boobs out and whip out the cack. She's jerking me off when security walks by.

Security: Hey guys you can't be out here. Sorry to break it up seems like you were almost there. Most people hide in those cabanas.

I look at the girl she says " we're not going to the cabanas."

Fine as we're walking back to her friends I pull her in the leveator shove her against the wall and make out more. I hit the top floor 11. We get there and then she says we have to go back to her friends. I ask her where her room is. She says on the 4th floor. I hit the 4th floor button. She won't get out of the elevator and eventually I take her back to her friends. Where I get a lecture about how her guy friend wants me to fuck her so he can live vicariously through me. This is not good for ASD. We hang out a bit more but eventually she leaves with the dude, and I can't snag the invite up.

Next Set:

Now it's like 4 AM, I've gotten half a handjob and had two girls who want to fuck me but the gods of logisitics had me cursed. But I would overcome. I open a three set with a HUGE latin chick, a hot latin chick and a hot big tittied short blonde. Any guess as to who the target was?

It was not on at all at first. In fact I did multiple jealousy plots by grabbing girls as they walked by and opening them in front of the blonde. I also met some Hungarian porn stars who told me they were not there to fuck but they did hug me in front of the blonde so that's some social proof...

I keep disqualifying the girl, she's too nice, she's an only child, she's too blonde, she's kinda sexy and I would ruin her for all other men. Finally it starts to hook and we make-out. But not before we have the world's longest almost kiss. Seriously it was like 5 minutes of being lip to lip while we both said we weren't going to kiss. She finally lost. It's 5:30 AM So I go for the pull I get her out to the cab stand with the cab door open before she says " I can't leave my friends". I felt like Jules Winfield in that classic Pulp Fiction scene. I wanted to say

" I don't wanna hear about no goddamn friends. All I wanna hear from yo ass is go back in there chill them obstacles out and wait for me to leave with you which should be happening direct."

Ah butchering Tarantino...

Alas I go do some group stuff. The non fattie hates me. Moxie comes in and somehow fixes this. I really have no idea how but I suspect ninja magic.

The HUGE obstacle is talking to the scariest cholo of all time. I take this as an opportunity to try to pull my girl out to the cab again. I swear this guy must have been wondering why I kept bringing girls out to go back in. I pulled 3 different girls to the cab stand...
The guy the whale is talking to looked like he should be a hispanic rapper called MR Gangsta. He's actually cool as hell. And he wants to take the whale to breakfast. I say cool. We'll go eat room service at the MGM in RM # Whatever... I tell her the room number for safety. Fattie says yes cause let's face it she wants food. But the other latina obstacle and my girl are now worried about the whale. Internally I laugh and say there's nothing to worry about because she could always sit on him. Plus she's got enough blubber that if he shoots her it won't hit anything important. I don't say this. Sinn 5 years ago would so this is progress I suppose... The girls ditch us and the cholo and decide to go back to their hotel to eat. My girl tells me she's just not that kinda girl.

Argh , so I figured I'd post this because everyone can enjoy it. I enjoyed writing it cause it's a cathartic process and I'm finally over it now( I think). People who want to learn game can find a few decent nuggets in here, and the haters can laugh at how I didn't get laid despite three makeouts. Everyone wins!


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Monday, April 28, 2008
LR X 2 Anal sex, death threats and underage girls

It's been an amazing time out here in Vegas with El Topo and our super student. This guy was super serious about getting better and has spent 9 days total with myself, and ET. We've even been engineering a new way of lifestyle development with these one on ones as a way of integrating the habit of pick-up into your own life. It's super exciting stuff and we will be posting more about it later.

Onto the LRs. Since I've been in Vegas I've pulled every night. The first night I even got a death threat from the guy I pulled this set away from. It starts out with ET and I at a famous circular bar in Vegas where we ran into Brad P running a workshop. Brad has a new product called the adventures of Brad P which is awesome and only $ 19 bucks. I'll be posting a more in depth review of it soon. But we also run into former student Eight Rope and some creepy Indian dude( from now on CRID). 8 rope is doing well with his girl but the other one is clearly creeped. Somehow I start talking to her and she's all over my shit. The reason being that I actually escalate. 8 rope later said he was amazed watching me and ET work the set because we were getting them touching us and accepting escalation super fast after they had been talking to them for an hour. This is a lesson on why we have to escalate. Blow me or blow me out!

Anyway the CRID comes back into the set and I let it go as I'm not trying to steal the set. Now the girl moves away from where I had her isolated and rejoins the group to get away from him. She of course comes right next to me as I've already run strawberry Fields, rings on fingers and qualified her. SO it's on with a sexual vibe. there's a key distinction between it being on and it being on with a sexual vibe. if you don't try to communicate sexually with women it will be on but you will get LMR. Trust me I know from personal experience before I met CJ. So here comes the CRID again and now the girls are trying to bounce with us. The girls move away as the CRID grabs the hand of the girl I'm talking to. A minute before this I had explained to him that he creeped the girls out and that's why they were leaving I even gave him examples of how he was being overly aggressive. Some people read reports like this one and think all they have to do is grope and pull. There is a dance to escalation and the real power is in the take aways... I finally decide that since he's creeped them and they're leaving I'm gonna grab them. ET and I walk up say " We have to go to the bathroom and pull them away. Now he starts blowing up Eight rope's cell threatening to and I quote " Kill all of you!" He even continues to call the next day and say that he's with his boys and we can settle this now. Psycho Alert. The dude's a nutcase. Proving yet again why it's usually a bad idea to meet up with people off message boards. If you're reading this dude, you need psychological help and I hope you get it.

We bounce to a lounge in the same hotel and it's really on. We're making out she's trying to get me to dance and her and her friend begin talking about how my girl needs to get laid and how logistics are going to go down. Eight Rope politely excuses himself and we bounce the girls back to our hotel to smoke...

Now it gets tricky as I'm escalating on my girl on the bed and ET's chick wants to watch. but we separate and all goes well especially as this particular girl loved it up the butt. Various inappropriate things happen after this point.

The second night (Sat) I pulled a set and was having her flash people in the cab but lost it when her friend who's 30th Bday it was freaked out and they all had to rush to get her. I say save the drama for your mama and peace out!

Last night I got laid again with a 19 year old I met in the lobby of the Excalibur of all places. This is a big reminder to everyone(myself included) to kick game to girls all the time. You never know where those lays are going to come from and it's important to always have that SNL mindset even if you're chilling in a lobby of a gauche themed hotel. We game them and exchange numbers and through text I progessively escalate

Some ex:

Her: What are you doing tonight?
Me: Besides pinning you up against a wall and making out with you? Undecided...
Her: Yummy... How do you know me so well already?
Me: I'm awesome.
Her: That explains it.
Me: Aww you're making me blush and other things...

It continues like this but I'm a gentleman with class and won't sully my reports on the internet telling people about various chicks I bang with such filth :)

Anyway we meet up at the bar and bounce back to the hotel and the girls won't come up to the room. Fucking underage girls... I made a rule awhile ago to not fuck with girls under 25 as they know what's going down and how SNLs work. It's ok we build comfort at the bar. I escalate.ET brillantly bounces his girl to the lobby " To handle some shit and then up to the room"

I get a text from him that says in the room fucking. I tell the girl they're probably in the room and we should go break up their party. She agrees and we go up there. Now I know I'm not breaking up shit so I have to get her super aroused enough to fuck in the bathroom before we get to the room. So about 20 feet before our room. Which is down the longest hallway known to mankind. I slam her against the wall make out with her and start dirty talking. Now luckily she's wearing a skirt so I start to play with her and then I show her the text from 5 minutes ago and pretend we just got it. I go shit they are fucking we can't go in there... Unless you want to go in the bathroom where we have some privacy. She says she's down and I get a cramp from fucking this chick standing up in front of the mirror American Psycho style.

I guess the major lessons here are to be aware of logistics, use arousal to overcome bad logistics, start sexualizing the interaction as soon as you possibly can and have the balls to take the opportunity when it presents itself. I wasn't going to post LRs anymore but I think I'll go back to it as it gives me easy stuff to write about. I usually get between 5 and 10 a month and I will let you guys decide.

Hit me up with comments

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Thursday, May 01, 2008
LR: Out Alone-Obstacles or Opportunities?

This girl actually just left my apt, about 20 mins ago.

Flashback to last night. Nobody wants to go out. CJ has a date, Printer flakes for no explained reason and doesn't return calls or texts. Fidelio and ET are working and then going home, Shaft is working. S0 here I am in my underwear watching the Hawks and Celts play and wondering if I should go out tonight. Add to it that in my experience Wednesday is the worst day to go out in Dallas and I don't have a car because... well because my car sucks balls. Most guys would see that as enough of a reason to stay home, smoke a bowl and play on the internet. Not me. This to me is a big difference between the guys who get massive results and the guys who just kinda struggle. CJ for awhile had no car, his daughters two weekends a month and lived at his Mom's house. yet he still got good at SNLs because he saw opportunities instead of obstacles. Most guys are too quick to make excuses as to why they can't go out or why they can't approach or why they can't try to pull etc.. There's two sides to every coin and that means that in every situation that seems to suck there's some way to improve and try to get laid. You just have to be looking for it.

Onto the LR. I decide to roll out to the bars by my house. I'm not expecting it to be a great night but I stop by the bar across the street. It's dead. The guy ET and I know who works there isn't even there so I bail and go to the sports bar across from there. The Stars are getting beaten by the Sharks yet there are no attractive hockey groupies, so I finally decide to go to my local dive. This is a place I never really go as it isn't a great placer for pick-up usually but tonight it's packed. I'm standing line for the bathroom when I hear everyone in the bar clapping and then turn to my right and see a seven foot tall drunk Dirk Nowitzki. He's so drunk he goes into the women's bathroom to piss. I text Fidelio about this and he responds " That's y they lost he's got a vagina". I go out and start opening sets.

The first set is a two set of blondes who I open with Brad P's Lesbian DTR opener. It doesn't really hook and I walk away without plowing. The next set I open I actually just want a cigarette and I ask for one but the girls don't have any. I've noticed that lately I am having way more trouble getting people to give me cigarettes. It started when I was in San Jose a couple of weeks ago, and has continued through Vegas and Dallas... Weird. Anyway I try to stack forward, but to no avail. And now I have two blowouts. I open another two set and get nowhere again when two girls who are in matching business wear walk in. They're very cute and more importantly they're the only set I haven't opened yet in the tiny shitty bar.

So I open them. There is a seat next to them at the bar so I sit down and open situationally by saying that I wish I had worn my white button down shirt too so I wasn't wrecking the sequence. They laugh and then we start talking about the drunk girl who is basically falling down and popping out of her shirt at the same time. I say we should start taking bets on what's going to happen. Her falling down is even money and her boobs popping out is 2 to 1. The target girl suggests that I go for her. I tease her and say we're not going to get along. Then I run rings on fingers and slap her hand. The obstacles boyfriend shows up and is all " Hey what's up dude!" He brought a friend or my girl but she doesn't even look up. She moved seats with the obstacle to sit next to me which I tease her for. We're both really mean and people watchers so we make fun of everyone including her best friend's BF for awhile. It turns out that they met in a sorority. Of course I tease her for that. I run Strawberry fields and she wants me to to run it on her friend. I refuse as her friend is already occupied with the BF and there's no point as I say the same thing EVERY time.

I ask her what's special about her and she tells me she's in commercial real estate. I run a role-play about her being my sugar mama and me lifting weights to show her what she's paying for. This leads into my summer of the ripped abs routine where I put her hands on my abs. TD pointed out to me that I should take more advantage of being in shape and make girls feel my muscles. I've been using this for awhile and it works really well for physical arousal.

Her friend and the boyfriend decide to leave. Earlier I had found out she drove herself so I know she can stay and she does. We have a few more drinks and play the question game. I ground my family a little bit and talk to her about what I'm writing right now. I've been doing some really good sexcalation and I eventually say something like " I wanna makeout with you in the bathroom. We get in the bathroom and I put my hands down here pants, but my friend the bartender bangs on the door and tells us we can't be in there together. I take that as an opportunity to bring her back to my place. We drive the two blocks because she doesn't wanna leave her car there. Get back to my place and all ends well.

She had a super hot body under that business wear. Huge boobs and a nice ass. The funniest part of the night was when the BF was leaving he tried a lame cockblocking attempt by telling her to use a condom and I tell her she's not getting laid. She also busted me on being out alone but I frame controlled it away by making it a joke. She even sent CJ a message from my phone calling him sexy... Sorry CJ :)

So that's 4 nights in a row of going out and pulling and 3 lays in those nights.

S


Anonymous said...
I think this LR just teaches you that life is what you make of it. You can either be a negative bitch or you can make things happen and get a sugar mama lay. Awesome.
-R (arr-ah)
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Friday, September 19, 2008
BJR: She left with another guy...

This actually happened on Monday night.

Last Monday myself, Speer and CJ headed down to a local sports bar to watch the Cowboys play the Eagles on MNF. There's a great bar in Dallas where hot girls actually go to watch football. I know it's weird. It's actually pretty annoying because you have to get there around 2 hours before kickoff to get a good table. So we get there, eat, wait for CJ and watch the game. While there I notice two girls who were Maxim level hot. Ridiculous. The only problem was they were across the patio with no path to walk over to them as they at a table behind a table. Finally one of them gets up to go to the bathroom and I open her direct. She says thank you and walks off. Swing and a miss. Oh well it was the only chance I had and I took it. So I feel pretty good about that.

Then after the game which the Eagles choked away, as Mcnabb had shades of Superbowls past. we head up to one of the social circle venues in Dallas. It's always got hot girls, the approach angles are terrible and there's a lot of dudes. I'm walking around talking to some girls when I see a very cute short girl with big tits in a texas tech shirt. She looks like she's in what i call "frisky" mode as she's walking around talking to a bunch of guys and flirting with them as they walk by. She touches CJ's face and he tells her it'll cost her a dollar. As she walks away I claw her in and tell her she's adorable. She's all over me. She starts telling me I'm sexy and pulling my shirt up in the middle of the club. My mind says extract. So I grab her by the hand and tell her we're taking a walk. She says she wants to grind me against a wall. I say outside.

I get her outside with minimal resistance as I just lead and go for it. The key to In venue lays is having the balls to keep going for it. Just move them out of the club and try to escalate the first private place you find. I find a a little corner behind a Chili's and push her against the wall. Makeout. Shirt off tits out. And pants down. as she's blowing me a car drives by and some black girls laugh at us. I move her further into the little alley. We finish up and I take her back inside. She buys me a drink and then tells me she's going to find her friends and to wait for her. I figure I'll try to pull another girl so I wander off and talk to some other girls. I also feel no approach anxiety as I actually did just get a blowjob.


I run into her on the dance floor an hour later and she's now obviously drunk. she's all over a couple of guys. I leave as I already got mine and this girl seems weird. Then I'm standing with CJ when I see her grinding and making out with a bald guy. I start cracking up until CJ tells me that I've probably made out with a girl who just blew some guy in the parking lot too. I choose to ignore this as it can't help me :)

Later in the night I saw the guy actually pull the girl, so kudos to him. And her for doing two guys in one night. Impressive.

Not really a lot of information in here except that girls will do incredibly slutty things. Which is good information to know.

S
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I went to Sunday Night Football with some friends. I'm 2 for 2 the last times I've gone out to watch football. Which just goes to show that the more you try to find avenues to meet girls you enjoy, the better you're results will get. The first time I wrote about in the BJR I posted awhile back and this time I ended up making out with both girls and taking one of them home. Then I went on a date with the other one last Tues. She's a weird Z list celeb so I'll write all about that when I get home. The date alone deserves it's own post for the wackiness of the situation. Then I headed down to Miami to work with one of my long term coaching students. He's been making huge progress. We worked on day game in South Beach, which as my buddy Trance noted " was like taking a rookie to the Super Bowl." He did great though and got a couple numbers despite being very inexperienced with day game.

I hate Miami a lot, but I have to admit it's probably the best place in the world for doing cold approach. The only places with girls of comparable hotness are Vegas and Stockholm. Vegas is an SNL town which is cool but you'd have a hard time retaining girls since almost everyone you meet will be a tourist. or stripper :) Stockholm can't even begin to compete in the weather department or the sheer size of the city. However Miami is still an unlivable cesspool of pretentious people, superficiality, and general douche-baggery. South Beach still looks like something out of the 70s. The pastel colors and bungalows come straight out of Grand Theft Auto. In fact it still feels like the guy from Vice City is gonna run up on you every time you're on the streets. I like a lot of the venues, but most of the weeknight hot spots are still home to the asshole door guy. It's funny because no matter how big the city there's still a core of club people. You'll always see the same people out on the same nights of the week, promoters and door guys will switch clubs, even bartenders swing between a couple of places a night. This is good news because if you're setting up a social circle, you don't need to befriend everyone, just the right people. That's a huge thing most people miss when they're trying to get their social circles together.

Once my one on one was over I headed up to NY to wrap up some filming on a project Julian Foxx and I are doing together. I met Julian the last time I was here and we really hit it off. We decided to film some stuff and we'll both be talking about that soon enough.

I got in Saturday afternoon and had set up a "sex date" with a girl I met the last time I was here a few weeks ago. I met her when I was out with Fader and a girl he was seeing in Hoboken. I actually had started off trying to hit on another of her friends(a redhead) before I found out she wasn't actually with the guy she was all over. She told me they were brother and sister, which later turned out not to be true. She's a pretty interesting girl. Very into the fetish scene but also a very successful health food store owner... We really hit it off that night, but she had to drive her "brother" home. I blew her off a few time to go out with Fader but kept in touch with her through text. She's ultra sexual and I'm pretty sure she was a stripper at some point judging by the way she danced. So we decided to set up a sex date for Sat night. She even told me she'd have to get rid of her date so she couldn't do anything til after 11. Turns out she had a ton of drama with her ex and ended up going drinking with her "brother". So I roll up to meet them at about 12:30 PM. The "brother" is a really cool guy in a fucked up situation, he's married to a woman he doesn't really love and they have a kid. He's also hooking up with my girl's friend. So he's got a ton of drama as well. I just sit and listen. He tells me he approved of me when we met because I was funny. I always like people better when they think I'm funny :) Anyway he has to go home so he dropped us off at her place. At which point she wanted to dance, so we head to a dance place. I informed her that I don't dance, but rather have seizures to music, and she tells me that's good because she'll have something to hold onto. We go, grind, and makeout with ice. Escalating with ice is a huge sexual suggestion, it assumes the sale and shows you know what women respond to sexually. Finally she looks at me and says " ready to go?". On the ride home she drives straight back to her place and then as we're pulling up, she says " OMG, I didn't even ask you if you wanted to come back here. That's rude of me." I told her it was ok and she just assumed the sell. We go upstairs she shows me her dog and then we both take showers before sex. One weird note is she had an IUD which was very strange and unexpected. Luckily she warned me about it, or I would have freaked out. I didn't get to bed until about 9 AM after she brought me back before going to work.

Mindgames and Strategy intuition on how to manage recommunication or situation

I noticed today that alot of people get caught up.... the emotional drain when you are preparing for a date or communicating

I followed the model on following up with women... brought up by Doc Holliday. http://www.entropypua.com/blog/dead-phone-numbers

Its field experience and testing waters with what she is feeling....

or what she is doing that brings me to this post,

All women react on an emotional level stronger than logical.

"buyers remorse" theory is evident in dealing with situation.

Not all women are all the same...why?

some have mindgames,some like validation,some have deserveness issues...

PU to find out how it works could take over a lifetime....

its how to know wht to do and how to deal with it....

as mentioned always keep your cool.... you calibrate always, end convo always and get her more into you than you into her....

I remember reading Paul Janka's obsession... I may re-read that btw.

and when she does that, you HAVE to do the opposite to get the result with some women.

the ones Im dealing with now arent the best, Im not in best shapr either...

Its emotionally drainning sometimes.....

but dont show needyness,even though you want her NEVER SHOW IT !

I failed the follow up to the instadate ... I asked her out within that same day I met her...
WRONG! We guys have our emotional side too cause I felt a connection and I felt her horniness. LOL.

she didnt return my text today after I had called her this morning to set up for a date followed
MEHOW's Model.

always go back to the needyness defined by Sinn post.

more important because I forgot these rules! I credit AWAKEN who pointed out once when he was coaching when I would appraoch it would show I had an agenda so I had to lean these rules and act like I wasnt sexually into her.


MAKE IT A HABIT TO REVIEW THIS BEFORE PHONE GAME OR INTERACTING WITH WOMEN

Tao of steve movie helped me alot..when I was starting off ..but you as a guy when you meet the girl that you want YOU MUST FOLLOW this .


FOLLOW THE RULES:

1.Eliminate all desire when around the woman. Be desireless.Eliminate your desires.

2.Do something excellent in her presence, thereby proving your sexual worthiness.

3.Retreat, "We pursue that which retreats from us". Be gone.


Be desire less

1.Being desire less and detached from results in any situation is one key to his effectiveness. Being desire less you can be just be yourself and be “totally in the moment”,
and not worried about a specific outcome.

When you telegraph to a woman with your body language that you don’t have any objective,
her attraction for you will likely go up.
The fact that you are getting to know the women as a person and not a sex object will work in your favor.

Never try to impress women.

The key is to show interest only after you have validated this woman as someone worthy of your time.

2.Be excellent.
Dex demonstrated excellence through his wit, banter, quest for knowledge, and cooking. If you have a talent, by all means grasp the opportunity to display

3. Be gone .

One of Dex’s favorite lines was

“we retreat from that which pursues us.”

What that basically means is that women don’t like guys who follow them around like puppy dogs.

In life, you want to end every encounter with the other party wanting more.
Don’t over stay your welcome.

Any successful relationship is give and take in equal amounts.

Once one party is trying harder then the other party, the relationship is in trouble.

I think this movie contains some great dating tips for men.

Once you become a Steve your love life will surely improve.


I had great time meeting up with Adam , Speer and Northen nights.

PS: Plan is for HBminesota is to turn tables on her and lead her to meet up with non sexual cause:

Heya blondie ; )
I have a bad late night snack habit ?

I love eating ice cream

My fingers hurt ? Want ice cream?

Then wait for a response and call her
convo:

is this a booty call?

my finger hurt and now you givng me shit,

no I said ICE CREAM not booty call its spelled different,

why do stupid girls always think meeting up is about sex; )

ICE cream ,at my place, ; )

I cant eat all of it we will eat it together that way it will be half the calories. LOL.

come over eat ic cream !then I take you back to your place.

What are you gonna do?

you are such a flake you know what I got so much stuff going

Why you eject when you think she isnt interested? how to work through it

When I started I would eject and guys would say "oh dont worry open another girl"

I would never go farther than after she IOD me or not paying attention after the opener yet I was unaware...

I saw Speer infield and was amazed how he plows or persists.

I got from girls that I was pushy but what he did was made sense..

Its about knowing how to take it further in the interaction know how to control a social sitaution in a conversation aka convo skills...

I looked into that and found damage control cd with Speer....Very good!

I found this old post on chasing and pursuing, this is taking things to a another level than ejecting and giving up:

Chasing vs. Pursuing

It’s Sunday afternoon. You met a great woman on Friday or Saturday night, and followed the system perfectly. You opened, you created attraction, you qualified, and then you started to build comfort. The situation wasn’t right for you to take it further, so you casually invited her to join you for some exciting event on Monday. She gave you her number.
You phone. It rings a few times and goes to her voicemail. You leave a message. She doesn’t call you back. It’s now Tuesday. What do you do?

1. Maybe call her again next week, but that’s it. You need to have the frame that you have lots of women interested in you and are busy, or else she won’t stay attracted to you anyway.

2. Call or text every day or two with a variety of different approaches, to see if any of them make an impact. Delete the number after a few weeks if you don’t get anywhere.

3. Call every day until she answers. Once in a while call three times in a row to see if that works. After a week or so, drop back to once a week or so. Don’t give up until YOU are no longer interested.

What’s the right answer? Don’t look ahead…
Actually, any of them could be the right answer. In the right context, all of these are okay. Too many beginners in the are too inflexible with the frame that “I have value…she has to come to me” and default to (A).

Yes, this is a good frame, and it’s important. However, sometimes you need to do a little bit of pursuing as well.

Why is this?
If you obviously have value, why should you have to pursue a woman?
Why does she want you to?

In short, it’s because this shows that you are genuinely interested in her.

In fact, the more value you have, or appear to have, the more a woman will want to see you put in a bit of genuine effort to pursue her. She recognizes that you can have easy conquests, and she doesn’t want to be easy.

Why else? Some women are simply flaky and scatterbrained (so are some men).

She may adore you, but you called when she was having dinner, and then she met up with a friend, and now it’s the next day, and she could call you, but now she’s distracted and, anyway, if you’re really interested in her you’ll call again, right?

Why else? She wants to play the traditional female role of being chased. It’s exciting for her, and built into millennia of social programming.

It’s not a great frame for men to be in, which is why we short-circuit it when we first meet a woman by disqualifying ourselves during the attraction phase. That’s easy in public, where you can plausibly start a random conversation with an attractive woman without being interested in her (until she wins you over, of course…).

It’s not easy on the phone. By calling, you are confirming your interest. That’s why it’s so important to qualify her when you first met, so she feels comfortable with your interest in her, but it does mean that you might feel a little bit of “back to square one” on the telephone. So, yes, she may make you work for it by not returning your phone call. Don’t take it personally.
Why else? Some women are taught “not to call guys”. Yes, it’s pretty silly, but there is just as much silly dating advice for women as there is for men .

There’s nothing you can do about this. Call them. You can fix their silly ideas later.

Now, we covered ages ago some of the crucial tactics to making you she does answer the phone when you call (programming your number into her phone, telling her when you’re going to call, planning a specific event, making her verbalize some anti-flake routines, texting/calling that night, etc.) as well as how to leave a message (leave hooks, cut yourself off, etc.) so we’ll assume that you’ve done all of this, and are still not getting her on the phone. You can give up, of course, and focus your energies on new women. This is totally fine. But you can also set aside a few minutes a day with your “cold” phone numbers and do some of this:

* Vary the time of day when you call. Morning, afternoon, evening, night. If you’re getting nowhere, try calling at 1am. You’ll wake her up, so make sure you can be immediately entertaining from the second she answers. (Start with a high-energy, funny, short routine. Don’t even introduce yourself).

* Call from different numbers

* Try sending text messages – some people simply prefer these to phone calls* Don’t ever acknowledge that you are calling and she isn’t returning your calls.

Adopt the frame – to yourself – that she is just a flaky woman and it’s kind of cute.

Don’t let it cross your mind that she might not actually be interested in you.

* Don’t ever say “this is the last time I’m calling” or “I’m calling to leave you another message”. And if you do get her on the phone, don’t even bring up the subject of your previous calls or texts.

* If you phone, and it goes directly to voicemail (and doesn’t ring at all), hang up.You got a free pass. If it doesn’t ring, it won’t show up as a missed call on her phone. She won’t see that you called. If it does ring, leave a message.

On the other hand, don’t turn “pursuing” into “chasing”. If she tells you not to call, stop calling. Don’t be creepy.


IOD -neg -DHV and try again when she doesn't comply- thanks Speer!