Night Game Model — Part 3

We’ve covered pre-selection, opening and transitions, now we’re into the bulk of the conversation. I’d say 50-75% of my sets make it this far, depending on the venue. The rest are either blow outs or the girl just didn’t hook well at all.

What I do at this point, is very similar to what I do in the day game model. In the day game model, I cycle qualification and comfort stories. At night, I do the same thing, except I just add teases to the cycle.

So for instance, in day game, a conversation will go something like this:

Me: “So what do you do when you’re not shopping for groceries?” (Qualification)
Her: “I work at X and do Y. I really like it because of Z.”
Me: “That’s cool. I had a friend who used to do Y, but they didn’t like Z.” (Comfort Story)

At night, it’d go something more like this:

Me: “So what do you do when you’re not out drinking appletini’s with your girlfriends?” (Qualification with a little tease)
Her: “I work. I do Y at X.”
Me: “Wow, aren’t we Ms. Professionalism.” (Tease)
Her: “I guess. People say I take my job too seriously.”
Me: “So that’s why you come and drink.” (Tease)
Her: “Exactly!”
Me: “That’s cool. I had a friend who did Y. He didn’t like it because of Z.” (Comfort)

Then repeat the cycle with another topic.

It’s the exact same conversation, just with teasing sprinkled in (and I’d be kino’ing but more on that in Part 5).

How much you should be teasing and when you should be teasing will be covered in Part 4, Calibration.

As far as teasing goes, it’s good to learn how to improvise teases on the spot. If you have trouble, you may look into taking a comedy or impov class. A good sense of humor and solid sense of timing when telling jokes is important, not just for women but for social skills in general.

But also, once you’ve done 500-1,000 sets, you’ll notice a lot of patterns in conversation and certain topics and questions that come up pretty frequently. You can develop stock teases/jokes.

For instance, almost every set it comes up where I’m from (Texas). I live in Boston. Probably about 50% of girls ALWAYS ask me, why I moved to Boston from Texas. I always respond the same way: I look at them as if they just asked me the most retarded question ever and say, “To get the fuck out of Texas… duh.” They always laugh. ALWAYS.

Another question I get all the time when this topic comes up is, “But you don’t have a southern accent.” I say, “Yeah, because I’m civilized.”

I have probably used both of these lines at least 1,000 times at this point, and the girl laughs (thus gaining attraction) at least 95% of the time. I still use them at least once a night.

Then there are the stock “routine” teases that come from the community. I have a couple that I use over and over. Whenever a girl has trouble understanding me, or isn’t listening to me, or can’t hear me, I always say, “Look X, we have communication issues, this isn’t going to work any more,” and I lightly push her away.

Another favorite is when a girl is feisty and pretends like she’s going to fight me or says she’ll kick my ass, I say, “Look, I haven’t hit a women in almost six months, don’t break the streak.” You really need to say this with a smile on your face so she knows you’re kidding, btw.

I also pull out the, “You’re so cute when you do that, I want to adopt you as my little sister,” every now and then, depending on the girl.

Finally, once in a blue moon, I pull out Style’s “5 Questions” game, which to this day I don’t think a single girl has won. I usually only use this routine if I know the girl is into me, but I’m seriously stalling out for some reason. It rarely fails me.

So right there, I have 2-3 stock lines for common topics of conversation, I have 2-3 stock “routine” teases, and then I have whatever teases I improvise in the middle of the set. That right there is more than enough to have in your arsenal.

Typically, most girls you only have to tease 2-4 times before you have enough attraction (depends on how well you tease and their personality), other girls may require a few more.

One of the biggest problems I see in guys is they tease WAY TOO MUCH. They’ll tease and banter and tease and banter like 15 minutes into the set, and now they’ve gone from the random guy approaching to the hot guy with attitude to the dancing monkey who’s getting a little played out.

Here’s an example of a typical set where I would need to tease a few times to move on:

Me: “Hey, what’s up? I’m Mark. I wanted to come meet you.” (Direct Opener)
Her: “Hi. I’m Betty Boop.”
Me: “Cool. You don’t come across like most of the girls here. You don’t seem as superficial as most girls you meet in clubs.” (Cold Read Transition)
Her: “Hah, well thanks. I don’t usually come to places like this. It’s my friend’s birthday tonight.”
Me: “Cool. How do you know the birthday girl?” (Testing for Logistics — more in part 6)
Her: “We went to college together, we don’t get to see each other that often anymore.”
Me: “I see. Did you guys go to school around here? You don’t seem like you’re from around here. ” (Cold Read)
Her: “Yeah, we did. But I’m from Illinois. How did you know?”
Me: “You’re not an asshole. Haha.”
Her: “What about you? Where are you from?”
Me: “I’m from Texas originally.”
Her: “Texas? Why did you come up here?”
Me: “Uhh… to get the hell out of Texas!” (Tease 1)
Her: *laughs*
Me: But “I’m from Austin, it’s kind of like an oasis of free-thought and liberalism in the middle of the Bible Belt.” (comfort story)
Her: “Really? I’ve never been.”
Me: “Well, you’re missing out Betty. Get your shit together.” (Tease 2)
Her: “I’ll get right on it.”
Me: “That’s the spirit. So what do you like to do when you’re not talking to Texans in Boston bars?”
Her: “Oh, I don’t know.”
Me: “You don’t know? What do you mean you don’t know? You have to like something.”
Her: “I’m a bit of a homebody.”
Me: “So?”
Her: “So I don’t get out much.”
Me: “Yeah, but you must do something at home.”
Her: “I guess I like to read.”
Me: “Sorry, I don’t talk to girls who read. I prefer my women illiterate.” (Tease 3)
Her: *laughs*
Me: “I’m Texan, remember?” (Tease 4)
Her: *laughs*Me: “Actually, I read a lot too.”
Her: “Really?”
Me: (Comfort story about reading.)

And that would be 90% of the teasing I would need for that set. By that point, she’d be attracted, and I could just build comfort and escalate from there.

I’ll be back next time to talk about calibration, knowing when to tease and banter, and knowing when to just stick to comfort stories. Part 5 will cover escalation. And finally, Part 6 will cover figuring out logistics. Then that should cover it.

Night Game Model — Part 1

Over the months, I’ve consistently gotten requests to devise a “Night Game Model” similar to the Day Game Model here on this site. Guys have loved that model because it’s simple, concise, flexible and easy to implement. So everyone’s been wondering if there’s a possible way to implement something similar to night game.

Here’s my attempt to do so. Same deal: I have no idea how long this series will go, but I’m going to go until I get all pertinent information out, nothing more, nothing less.

This is how 90% of my sets in night game go, and all of the mental processes that I go through with each set. Just like the day game model, following this at this point has become redundant, I don’t even really think about it anymore.

Notes About Night Game

Before we begin, some things should be noted about night game:

- Night game is very random. Aside from logistics, crazy shit is happening at night: people are drunk, fights break out, everyone is with a lot of friends, people come and go, places get crowded, etc.

This has two effects on how we approach night game: one is we have to be far more flexible than day game, the other is that we have to be prepared to do more. Put succinctly, night game has a wider range of results (anything from a ONS to a girlfriend to a fist in your face), and therefore it has a wider range of skills and variables. Whereas day game, you really only need to be able to fluff, build some comfort and get a number, the skills required at night run the gamut.
- Night game venues vary widely in difficulty and type. Popular dance clubs, high-end clubs, dive bars, gay bars, strip clubs, lounge, hotel bars, college bars, etc., etc. — all of these environments operate slightly differently and therefore you’ll have to learn how to calibrate to your environment.

In general, the more energetic the environment (crazy lights, loud music, dancing, alcohol), the more energetic you need to be. The more laid back the environment, the more laid back you need to be. Also, play to your audience. You should act differently in a college bar as you do at an upscale night club. (This topic is a whole article unto itself).

- You have to deal with competition in night game. If you open a woman at the grocery store, chances are slim some other guy is going to walk by and try to fuck you up. But at night, you’ll get guys doing just that quite often.

Once again, this has two obvious effects: one is that you have to be prepared to deal with other guys, and two women are going to be a lot more jaded and have their guard up at night.

Pre-Screening

Now that we have that out of the way, you’re in a venue, there are tons of people there, what are you doing next?

Pre-screening sets is an important step that almost nobody talks about (because it goes completely against the classic three-second rule). When I get to a venue, I like to take a lap around the venue and check out what’s going on, what kind of people are there, how many hot girls are there, what the logistical situation is like and if there are any “easy pickens” to start out with.

You do this by looking at two things when you walk around: people’s logistics and people’s body languages, or what I like to call, “What’s their story?”

1) Logistics is easy. Hot girl with three guys = poor logistics. Three hot girls by themselves at the bar laughing a lot = good logistics. Large groups sitting down = hard set. Two girls dancing with each other having a good time = easy set.

2) “What’s their story?” takes a lot more skill. You need to be able to read body language and read people well (which is a vastly underrated skill). For instance, if I spot a three-set, two girls and a guy, watching them for 10 seconds can reveal a lot about them. Are either the girls “with” him? Are they blowing him off? Does he look chodey? Do they look like they’re having fun, or are they there because they feel like they have to?

Figuring this shit out beforehand can be absolutely huge if you open them and cold-read them (more on that later). For instance, if I observe a set for 15 seconds and then walk up and one minute into the interaction say, “you guys seem like you’ve been friends forever but don’t get to see each other often,” it’s not a shot in the dark. I’m saying it because they seem to really like each other but also seem a bit nervous/awkward around one another (you know that awkwardness you get when you hang out with an old friend you haven’t seen in years? Yeah… that). Anyway, you hit that nail on the head and bam, your value is through the roof.

More on cold-reading later.

Basically, what I do is after I check the specs for all of these things in each group of people, I make some decisions: which girls do I want to talk to? Which sets would be easy? Which would be hard? Which people seem interesting to me? Which women seem like they’d naturally be into me? I take all of these factors into account and then prioritize the sets I want to open. Generally, I’ll start with whichever set has the combination of best logistics/hottest girls/most inviting vibe and go down the list.

Quick note: to everyone who says, “But isn’t walking around a bar looking at everybody make you seem like an AFC? Shouldn’t you get into set right away so that EVERYONE knows you’re such a social, cool, alpha, pimpdaddy?”

I’ve never bought into this. Why? Because people really don’t give a shit, especially girls. Think back to the last night you were out and talking to a bunch of people — I mean, the last time you had a really great time with some friends (or in set) for a good hour or two. How many people do you notice walking around by themselves? If you even noticed any, did you care? Did you make a mental note: “OMG, that guy’s by himself, what a fuck chode!”

No, you probably assumed he was walking to the bathroom/bar/door or looking for someone.

No one cares. As long as you don’t sit there and stare like a goddamn creeper, it doesn’t matter.

I’ll be back with part two in a couple days going over opening, transitions, cold-reads and continuing to screen.