Steve McQueen The REAL guy's guy of cool -Calibration KEY on overexplaining or mansplaining or qualifying yourself

“When I believe in something, I fight like hell for it." -Steve Mcqueen
I suggest looking into Biography of Steve McQueen..He is great example of being your own man and believing in yourself regardless of circumstances.

This Bio graphy is definately best to watch,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-YjYYEaDik

Check on 45min when Chuck Norris talks about Steve.

He gives Chuck advice on overexplaining in less than one minute.

It is excellent and memorable.

look into it.

McQueen had a tough home life. His childhood was far from ideal. He moved a lot as a kid and periodically ran with a pretty rough crowd. He spent some time as a ward of the state. As he got older, McQueen worked as a janitor, a carnie and a lumberjack before ultimately becoming an actor and the star we know and love.

McQueen’s life story, then, is a study in perseverance. He reminds the rest of us how important it is to not get discouraged and to keep your eyes on your goal. It’s as true with women as it is with the rest of life. The key to consistent success in dating is to never let rejection get you down. Whether it’s a bad breakup or the brush-off at a bar, you can’t let it get to you. Keep approaching women and keep working on your game. When in doubt, remember what McQueen says, “When I believe in something, I fight like hell for it.”

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As a kid, Steve McQueen joined the circus. Later in life, he joined the marines. He spent much of his life racing motorcycles, sometimes supporting himself with his winnings. In short, McQueen had a diversity of life experience. It’s part of what made him such an interesting guy.

Another of our top five dating tips from Steve McQueen has to do with developing some life experience of your own. Having many and varied experiences to draw on in conversation or when seeking common ground with a woman will increase your chances of success. What you need to recognize is that a huge amount of your game is based on what you do long before ever introducing yourself. So, the next time a buddy suggests an ill-conceived, spur-of-the-moment trip to Miami, consider all the stories and experiences you’re likely to acquire if you go. It might not be seem like such an impractical idea after all.

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Undeniably, McQueen was a daredevil. As we all know, he had a passion for motorcycle racing, and he was great at it. McQueen’s extensive racing experience also allowed him to perform many of his own stunts in films.

We regular guys also need to be daring if we’re going to have any success with women. Fortune favors the bold, and so do females. You don’t necessarily need to swim with sharks or go skydiving, but you do need to approach women on the street or at the bar in order to have any hope of getting a date with them. Women respond to men who are willing to take a risk. So, approach the hottest girl in the bar. Ask her for her number. Channel your inner McQueen. Be fearless.

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Reputedly, in The Magnificent Seven, Yul Brynner accused McQueen of trying to steal his scenes. Brynner may have been onto something. McQueen was magnetic on camera. It’s part of his magic, and another one of his qualities that we want to imitate in order to improve our chances with women.

Whenever you’re out in public, you should try to steal the scene. But being the center of attention is a tricky thing. You don’t want to come off as an attention whore. Don’t be ostentatious or flashy. Do, however, try to be the best-dressed man in the room. Supplement your style with a great sense of humor and engaging conversation, and before you know it, no one will be able to take their eyes off of you.

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Perhaps, above all else, we love Steve McQueen because he’s so quintessentially male. He was tough, uncompromising and cool. He was a little rough around the edges. There wasn’t an effeminate bone in the man’s body. He was a professional motorcycle driver who played a bounty hunter on TV -- how much more masculine can you get?
McQueen’s charisma should remind us all how attractive traditional masculinity can be. Women respond to guy’s guys. They like their men to be capable, resourceful and confident; even, when necessary, tough. So be like McQueen, and be a man

credit http://www.askmen.com/top_10/dating/top-5-dating-tips-from-steve-mcqueen_2.html

Update back in the game..neediness and calibration.. 2solid dates this week.

tonight is Wednesday I have one girl which I started texting last night and tonight when in too deep reported comfort as mark manson with the say. I am a true believer of mark. On attractions active and half passive it's balance in between them  exhibits calibration. On  rejections you get a sense of neediness and even despearation as my female friend Monique says its a void that you feel but it's actually a void that you want and you can only get spiritual  and not necessarily from a woman. Its true... So what I did is I actually fast for a whole day I'm not really sure the background of fasting but its pretty much it's you and survival mode and clears  your mind to focus on what it is important for you. I meant really did it because I felt that I needed to clear my mind and needed a little bit of putting myself back into the diet which I'm doing so it actually worked in my favor because all the sudden things started becoming clear and I said he thinking and survival morning thinking about myself first or having a passion and what really matters to me Stephen Nash talks a lot about this and not a lot of people get it because they think it is very super ficial are abstract but when you really really put this into practice it's a very powerful because it actually build your character your identity in life. What I am so good after a fast is I and when you're needing to stay like franco says you never text to go out don't communicate with anyone woman. A clear mind really sets I really calm tone in your life and say OK  now I'm back and really sets you be really nice calibration. Of course have you done it before this is like not going to the gym and then you're going to the gym again and kind of mentally prepare yourself there for so you can do is take things to get you where you need to be. Make Molly said once the will must be stronger than the skinny think fasting and meditating a really really do step your calibration. I was somewhat depressed on Tuesday and down and today I have to the three girls that I'm talking to you right now one of them is going to meet him tomorrow and the other one is pretty much whenever I feel like it. I have 3 in one site and 2 on other.I'm balancing rapport first humour then push pull or releases..this I learned from sinn Jon Lee..excellent excellent... Breakthrough comfort which future teaches..I basically in past ad swingcatts prizing once my Intuition knows its solid rapport w consistency and commitment. I'm a student of theory of pimp game and so I once establish trust rapport genuinely... I establish my role as an authority figure in her life. For some its natural and for some its a way demonstrate express masculinity. That Never changes...... I cool thing is to fuck a girl and then text all of the prospects...you always have go be hungry for the hunt of new prospects...with calibration from fasting ..and your persuasive verbal skill..you can seduce without being harsh...if you Dont fuck and your mind is cluttered w problem..then you come off weird needy lonely desperate and worse clueless.I read about an author guru on self help which he fasts once a week. Think this balances life ambitions and survival with good emotional self control... Its taken me longer to recover calibration...but 2 days of plain hi openers or immediately opening after she notices you leads to extreme fast solid attraction cause you are congruent in her way of her wanting you yet you opening her desires creating that fantasy for her a reality. Her imagination will take her. And game new ones...I use NLP 10% in my text and in person to reinforce her attraction interest into me...once you for that you can always bait her.

slavomir BB talks about my sticking points

Hola papa sandros

Gas station:
this was hard situation, time was a key element there
u got approximately 30 sec. to make your move...
and what action could give you the time and attention of the lady?
yes! u should act like a commando - screw out the valve and release the air from tyre
you have just disabled the enemy, she cannot retreat without HUMVEE
even if enemy have spotted u, your smile and "I like u and somehow wanted to chat with u for 5 min. no matter what" would break the ice
u can imagine the rest of the story by urself
Some could say that this is ridiculous, but actually this is clever
The worst physical reason is always easier to accept than the best game.
So that's why she would willingly stay with you coz of her flat tire - she would need you, she would need a man to do the man's thing
And one more thing - don't be afraid to act like a spies from a movies. Women simply love them for the way they act.

Library:
I have read your other posts and you surely got problem with eye-to-eye contact.
Every time when you got into eye-contact, instead of withdrawing try this:
1) Look at her boobs and try to guess the size.
2) Look at her hands and check if she has a ring.
3) Look at her waist and try to guess color of her panties.
4) Look at her feet and try to guess the size.
Each step should take no more than 1 second.
At the end look into her eyes again and give her a smile that u gave your mom when she baked a cake for ur 10th birthday
BANG she's yours

Outside Supermarket:
What would Tom Cruise do in a movie?
He would stop the car on the middle of the cross-road, turn off engine, pull hand brake,turn on hazard lights and step out of the car to initiate the lady.
Just like that, nothing to loose, except a parking ticket or adoration from drivers behind

THE POWER OF IMAGINATION MECHANISM

The difference between man and woman is huge.
Man can imagine that he is driving ferrari or f*cking some wh*res and he can have thousands of such imaginations a day.
Man can distinguish the imagination from real life.
Woman is very different - imagination is real.
When she imagines that she is making love with somebody, she considers that she is making this for real.

Case 1:
Man asked his woman if she was imagining sex with another man, and she said "yes".
He would just go over it, coz it was just an imagination, no real penis did entered HIS vagina
Case 2:
Woman asked her partner if he was imagining sex with another woman, and he said "yes".
She would behave like he had cheated her for real.

And that is why you should never reject the opportunity (not chance, not possibility, but opportunity) in such cases.
If you had an intensive eye contact, your pupils constricted and u felt sexual experience, she also had this.
U both made sex in your imagination and you both can do this again in real.

bb

how to related to women and how to listen to women:conversational techniques by ENTROPY

How to Relate to Women
By Mark, on June 17th, 2010 6 comments
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In interactions, what’s less important is your experience and what’s more important is how well you can relate to my experience.

In general, talking about yourself is a poor way of relating to other people’s experiences unless there’s a clear emotional parallel (emphasis on EMOTIONAL, not situational). In the end, the emotional rapport is all that matters. Facts and situations are all replaceable.

Example:
Person 1: “My dog died. I cried all day.”
Person 2: “My dog died. I didn’t really care.”

= POOR WAY TO RELATE

Person 1: “My dog died. I cried all day.”
Person 2: “My cat died last year. I didn’t leave the house for two days afterward. Losing a pet is awful.”

= BETTER WAY TO RELATE

Person 1: “My dog died. I cried all day.”
Person 2: “That’s awful. *hug* I’m really sorry. Here, drinks on me… and we’ll toast to the best damn dog there’s ever been. May she rest in peace.”

= BEST WAY TO RELATE

Generally people who only relate to others by talking about themselves, are really just using situations as opportunities to seek validation and attention. How do I know this? I used to do this all the time and still have to stop myself quite a bit (especially when I’m drunk).

Also, when you’re constantly in this mode of only relating to people on a very surface level, your perception will be that everyone else just talks about themselves as well… why? Because they’re not talking about you! And you is the only thing you can relate to.

And here’s something to try next time you’re out… see how long you can hold a conversation with a girl without telling her a single thing about yourself. The results will surprise you (ironically, they usually end up thinking you’re the most understanding and insightful person they’ve ever met).

Listening to Women
By Mark, on December 8th, 2010 17 comments
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Over the years, I’ve been barraged hundreds, if not thousands, of questions regarding women and how to interact with them. Some of them are rote and fundamental. Others are deep and penetrating, often drawing the questioner’s personality as well as his insecurities to the fore.

But unfortunately, a fair share of these questions and concerns are inane to the point of being borderline neurotic…

“How do I respond if she says she doesn’t like my hair?”
“She says I make a good friend, is that a shit test or does it mean she likes me?”
“She started talking her friend after I froze her out, and then went to the bathroom, how do I get her back?”
“After I qualified on how adventurous she was, why didn’t she want to give me her number?”

Uhh… yeah…

These are classic examples of questions that seem like a big deal to guys who are inexperienced with women and trivial to those who are experienced. Inexperienced guys have a tendency to over-analyze and hypothesize; it’s a result of their heightened anxiety-levels. But usually, they’re working themselves up over nothing.

But most of these “questions” are answered before they even become questions in the first place. They’re answered by the women themselves. You just weren’t listening.

There are two primary problems that most men have when it comes to listening to women. The first is the idea that you have to be perpetually talking, entertaining and engaging a woman when in conversation with her. For some reason, many men follow the assumption that the more he’s able to talk and fill in the gaps and spaces with a grandiosity of awesomeness, that somehow the girl, weak at the knees, will melt in front of him like a Popsicle in the sun as he spews story after story at her (emphasis on “at her”).

The reasoning for this follows classic guy logic: if each time I speak, I say something cool that makes her think I’m hot, then I should aim to speak as much as fucking possible. Unfortunately, this disregards a couple facts, the first being that nobody likes someone who talks about themselves constantly — or even talks about ANYTHING constantly. It also ignores the fact that, as taught by Dale Carnegie almost 100 years ago, people feel bonded and close to those who LISTEN to them.

There’s a seminal story about Dale Carnegie when he met a famous person (I believe it was Thomas Edison). Carnegie went in, and instead of asking for something, or trying to extol how amazing HE was — as everyone did with Edison at the time — Carnegie sat down and began probing Edison to speak about himself. The verbal floodgates opened and after sitting there and listening to Edison blabber on for over two hours about his most intimate personal details, Carnegie got up to leave. While leaving Edison noted to Dale: “Mr. Carnegie, you are one of the most fascinating people I’ve ever met.” The irony of course being that Carnegie had shared NOTHING with him.

A couple years ago, I was being filmed picking up a girl out at a bar. I met her, spoke to her for maybe an hour and took her home. The footage was never released, but upon talking to guy who recorded it later, he complained, “You didn’t do anything. You didn’t even talk to her. I don’t know what we can do with the footage.”

Of COURSE I didn’t talk to her. I sat there listening all night (and bought her a drink to egg her on). Every second a girl is talking to me, she’s investing in me and in her relationship and connection with me. If I can validate that connection and relationship by listening well, she’ll be very unlikely to ever steer away from me… and she’ll likely find me to be one of the most fascinating people she’s ever met.

The other mistake guys make when it comes to listening to women is that they focus too much on facts, surface words and what’s actually being spoken and not on intentions and emotions.

The most common mistakes men make over and over and over again, whether they’ve known a girl for three minutes or have been married to her for three years, is that they constantly take what they say at face value.

If she says, “I don’t like your hair.” That means that she doesn’t like your hair THAT SECOND and it’s apt to change at any moment. If she says, “I can’t have sex with you tonight,” that means she doesn’t think she can have sex with you right THEN AND THERE and it’s open for discussion.

It’s very rare that a statement from a woman, especially in the midst of flirting or passion, is made with any sort of finality. We men often judge a woman’s statements as some sort of legal decree. “She says I’d make a good friend? Fuck, that means I must be in the friend zone!” No, it’s just a reflection of her emotional state vis-a-vis you at that particular moment.

So how do decipher a woman’s cryptological communications? It’s actually fairly easy, it just takes practice.

Whenever a girl says something that seems to surprise you, or go against what you thought your vibe with her was, or that just plain doesn’t make sense or seems batshit, ask yourself this: what’s the emotion that motivated that statement? And that will explain everything you need to know.

When it comes to sexuality and flirting with men, women operate purely on emotions, rationalized through a verbal filter. Don’t mistake the filter for the message. Just as an example, let’s run through those first four questions again:

“How do I respond if she says she doesn’t like my hair?”
Don’t. You don’t have to respond to everything she says. Your hair doesn’t matter. Her mood does, and this is a reflection of some sort of antipathy towards you or the situation. Why would you ever validate that antipathy by responding to it? I flat out ignore statements like this, or completely disregard them by saying something like, “Yeah, I hate it to…” and then switching topics to something cool and exciting. Again, my concern isn’t my hair, it’s getting her thinking about something she DOES like.

“She says I’d make a good friend. Is this a shit test or does she not like me?”
It depends. Is she saying it in response to one of your sexual advances? It may be her way of turning you down. The meaning of this statement is 100% based on her intention, which you can never know 100%. She could be turning you down. She could be saying it to alleviate tension with you. She could be “shit testing” you. She could be nervous and be turning you down DESPITE liking you. The question is, what do YOU want? Again, recognize the words are the messenger, not the actual message. She’s not making a declaration of friendship here, she’s sending you an emotional smoke signal. My response to something like is always something like, “I don’t need anymore friends,” and then restate my interest in her.

“She started talking to her friend, so I froze her out. Then she went to the bathroom, how do I get her back?”
By not being so oblivious next time. She’s gone. She talked to her friend because you were not connecting with her. Not because you weren’t ENTERTAINING her — many men take this as a sign that they’re not talking ENOUGH. What it means is that she enjoys speaking to her friend — someone that she’s known for years and knows everything about — more than she enjoys talking to you. That doesn’t speak well for you. Freezing her out is a horrible choice. You’re not impressing a girl who has already demonstrated a lack of interest in you by demonstrating a lack of interest back. The fact she went to the bathroom was just a means to consummate the complete lack of relationship you two will never have.

“After I qualified how adventurous she was, why wouldn’t she give me her number?”
Because she doesn’t like you (in that moment). She feels like you’re trying to take something from her and are offering nothing in return. Qualifying her on how adventurous she is can have many effects (both positive and negative), but if you qualify a girl who already feels like you’re out to take something from her, by asking a vague and probing question without context, then she’s probably just going to feel even MORE like you’re trying to take something from her.

These are just a few made-up (but realistic) examples that I deal with consistently with guys. There are an infinite amount more. But hopefully they drive the point home: in conversation, often speaking less is more, quality over quantity. And when it comes to understanding what women are saying to you, it’s a matter of understanding intention and the emotion that motivates her statements, rather than her statements themselves

Review of nonverbal sexual communication and FR girl hired gun at Mall

Ok I admit that when I got consistently good I did some of this unconciously and conciously.
basic sexual cues that really trigger women biological hardwiring...this works for all women with the excemption of her attention on you or her state at the moment.

some things i had looked into:
Rob Brinded- code of natural
Basic Modeling manerisms of goodlooking guys behavior
Tracey Cox -Superflirt
Keanu Jagger-non verbal sexual audio course
Erotic Thrillers softcore porn as example of sexual escalation
basic infield experience, past experience
http://sandrospua.blogspot.com/2009/04/experience-in-pua-basd-on-failures-and.html


Abstract: When you have non verbal sexual communication DOWN, the lines and routines can be added as needed,you work on this first your sucess will skyrocket like a PU GURUS WORST NIGHTMARE.lol

read on


So whats powerful ? TELL ME

telling her you want to FUCK, or your eye telling her you want to FUCK? and whats the difference?
which of the two will turn her on and why do you think?
actually both can work but one of them is most accurately more consistant to get you better results.

NOTE:I rarely use direct game cause In my opinion radical honesty doesnt work, it only works on yourself, Sinn mentioned this before and I agree 100%. I wont deliver sexual directness to her cause it messes up your calibration and it opens up LMR. I rather the girl read it non verbally I want to fuck her cause its a bigger turn on for her.

I ONLY USE DIRECT GAME AT NIGHT WHEN GIRL IS NOT THAT HOT or GIRL IS HOT AND DRUNK , BT SPIKES HORNINESS.

direct game to learn well is have your nonverbal bodylanguage down experince before, probelme is the interaction cant be that long cause it becomes boring rather than romantic.


First off , I will write more in detail in my blog. I dont want to write a long post for you not to read it.

OK,

So first I will say is your state. the FR I will write up in the blog and here is what happened and what I did, obviously this is a way to imporve when you recognize you could have escalated more...so yes I messed up but its nothing compared to what I sis to amze of accidental discovery to regain MOJO and sexual state to connect without being creepy.

this is first part, as I go you will ahve to go on your path as I will try to work on other things and this too. Ive done it before so this is fairly accurate.

as I mentioned FR day game hired gun is posted,
that being said. I wrote up few products and open ideas I looked into to get my nonverbals running.

DAYGAME why non verbals are important

Doc holiday said always that he chose direct cause it pushed him to work his style bodylanguage and verbal skills better...thats one safe way to learn..other is fucking up and modifying your game as you go.

in Daygame non verbal is more important than words than in nightgame. WHY? cause before you open she reads you.
here is when you can use tactics to get her to start interest, other ways are simply nonverbally dhv yourself as I will mention in FR.

STATE
I thin Franco's book which talks about daygame is fundamentally acurate since its for building a solid game.
I re read sections cause it fits into whole component rather than parts and pieces, for FRANCO daygame is bascially going about your day and getting women interested in you. no effort, BUT STATE is important.

I accidentally found why when I was training consistently i felt more alpha and more intelligent, I was oxygenating my brain and my body.So this oozzes out confidence. THATS WHY GIRLS CONFUSE JERKS WITH CONFIDENCE.
So I was upset over a personal issue with family, I was upset but I had stuck up for myself...when I did that.
I felt like full self esteem,like walking out of the GYM.
the level was high that I said to myself "nobody cant stop me,Im sticking up for myself"
it was a good feeling, I was walking to the mall to pay for something and I said I might see a cute girl and tell her "you ar fucking sexy" just because I felt like it,not rapport seeking not wanting her, just tell her that
"cause I have nothing to LOSE"
this went back when I was dating 4 girls at the same time that last month in NYC. I had that mentality,I was hungry and would do whatever it took in my heart to survive for myself, so my mind would act this way. only now it was accidental..let see what happened


Appraoch as I appraoch I started doing basic eye sexual contact from audio course,the voice tone modeling from ElTOPO, with a loud clear crisp deep voice really sparked the girls brain. she started responding non verbally also, a guy was there but it was subtle...I had these moments in NYC, I worte a shit load on them and now find myself re reading with amazement how awesome I had turned into.

So after that interaction I actually started to realize that in some of the missed connections , the girl was obviously attracted she would throw back IOIs, SOIs and even flirt verbally with teasing (she is hot horny attracted ) and at times here in Miami they will lock eye contact and will AI... I must confess I didnt know what the fuck to do? cause basci pickup teaches wrong things...
so this happens and inexperienced guru guys laugh and dont offer help.

So Im looking into searching more on this topic.

SUMMARY
Tonight is proof that this is reproducible but it comes from your state and then how good are you at bodylanguage is and how you can alter your perception of subcommunication.
David D had an audio about "expanding your awareness", and Swinggcatt's Beliefs ,metaframes and frames and Prizing.

on this FR I lacked prizing and a basic qualification to why I want to meet her aside from her looks or sex
(no male gay best friend shite),
but the majority was that I number close that attrbute my success was to PRIZING aka framing that she is into you more than you are.Subtle DHV and preselection.

day game current sticking points JAN 2011

I will concede some truth that IOI carry different weight in different countries. Eye contact in North America usually means a girl would be comfortable with you striking a conversation with her. In certain European countries eye contact means a girl "wants" you to strike a conversation with her.




However I personally try not to read too much into cultural differences when it comes to women, because the end result is always the same. Underneath all those IOI every woman follows her emotions like a moral compass. It takes practice, but once you can tap into that part of her brain casually and comfortably you'll notice all these IOIs fall to the wayside





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ccol Hoyle Thanks..



I meant on advice on what I need to work on my daygame,dude.

based on the minor report I posted.



I also meant the IOIs during the convo is like her temperature goes up..so I found it either kino or ask her a question/qualifying statement rather than do more talking...



Initially the IOIs are ok, warm appraoches...



within the convo the IOIs tell you to calibrate her reactions in a way.



Jesse ofcourse mentioned previously in another day game thread for me not to follow the IOIs cause we get addicted to the IOIs and lose focus on leading the seduction. with that in mind.



great point Hoyle...Im noticing this Im not stereotyping but the more masculine you come off with latin women its like they are more receptive...its weird cause on white american its safety issue in day game ,so its a convo , interesting convo.

Latina not really into interesting convo, just seeing what else you got in terms of how macho are you in subtle non verbal sexual communication (one of Jesse's product)...YES in day game, LOL





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Originally Posted by Sandee

Things that Im messing up is :



-I talk too much and lack asking her questions to invest in convo

-lack of qualification or screening statements

-I forget about making her talk about herself...



So its like I talk and talk and talk and abit braggin' eventhoguh it isnt really but , its is abit too much too soon, too deep or too personal.



This is coming from a place of wanting to impress / entertain by just talking non-stop.



Becoming more comfortable with the idea of creating space or PUSH BACK with silences or asking for her input begins with not needing to impress the girl or win her approval so much.



One thing about Miami Latinas is that they tend to be QUIET and not really contribute as much as your typical Gringa. That can cause you to talk more because they're not giving back to the convo.



Latins are very family and social circle oriented, whereas European-descended Americans are more about mingling, meeting new people, and breaking family and old social ties. So you'll find white girls contribute more to the conversation and it's generally easier than with Latin Miami girls.







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Originally Posted by Sandee

Im noticing most Latina girls get turned off by this...like they rather you hold back and show abit mystery and more masculine dominant subcommunications to attract her rather than you talking too much about yourself, ofcourse unless she asks you .



It comes down to being introduced and social circles. A lot of Latina girls can come across as straight up weird and cold if you're not properly introduced, and even then as a Gringo you're still an outsider to them.





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Jesse any adivice or excersizes on the day game sticking points ?



Not really, unfortunately. I like Gringas. Just easier and cooler people.



Night clubs are different. Just get more physical and persistent against their cold shoulders and less conversational. You have better chance in a night club with them.



Or salsa club. If you can dance well, that will attract a lot of attention as you're such an oddity, and dancing well is a huge status symbol.







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but I started talking about a deep comfort story about how I liked nicaraguan food cause a maid in the house when I was a kid was from nicaragua and she used to cook that type of food and I liked it once in awhile....but then I told her that "now she is gone and i found out the lady recently died...."



the girl who was playng with her hair and sexual eye contact with me ...I felt all the sudden she got turned off and she walked away...



You're probably being too nice guy...? So is she feeling sexual intent from you, that sexual fury? Deep eye contact to her lips + eyes, super slow voice, lick your lips, telling her she's hot cute eyes? Maybe you're stuck in conversational friends zone and it got boring to her. She probably has plenty of alpha tough-guy Latin guys in her life she's comparing you to.







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So I might have to calibrate and hold back being too deep too soon and trying to get her to talk more about herself.



Maybe, but it may be more of a sexual intent issue.







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other girls would say " Awww.... thats so sweet" or "too bad"



A gringa would have given you more conversational banter back to work with, but these stories still wouldn't have turned her on. She'd still see you as a conversation friend.







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.. cause it looks like stories turns them off.



I think you're playing things too safe and cautiously, looking for the girl to like you first before you show sexual interest in her. You've got to show sexual interest in her first, and lead her into that attraction state.

Daygame hesitation sticking points :I noticed a pattern

I only do daygame.
and most scenarios have to do with either being somewhere and seeing a woman hot doing random errands and I get clueless at times to open them.
I dont go to coffee shops and bookstores just for pickup, I got ton of stuff to do and I think I should have an ability to be somewhere and get a chance to get to know a girl.

A scenario is today I saw was :

Gas station I was pumping gas and the car
the car behind me a hot woman comes out and goes in to pay and then goes to pump her gas into her car , she looks elsewhere doesnt notice me..I try to go open and hesitate...dont open F-K!


Library: Im standing looking for a book standing infront of bookshelf looking at books,I notice a cute girl looking at me ,
I look and notice her looking at me and catch her eye.....I hesitate and look away back into looking into bookshelf and she leaves....F-K!

Outside Supermarket:
I was driving by talking w my brother in my car a notice a woman who is corner who walks out of a local mini mart...I drive by slow and she then stands in the corner to cross , she stares and then I smile she smiles back with a sexual vibe and I drive away....its like we exchanged sexual eye contact....


I noticed from this and other posts before that Im constantly hesitating to open, Its ok to be caught off guard but now its becoming more and more often these scenarios and Im not doing something about it and its frustrating.


[QUOTE=Jesse Charger;4853]For day game, it can help to feel that *inner fury*.

"I will chase this girl down to the ends of the Earth, no matter what it takes" feeling. But still chilled and relaxed about it. So that you have that masculine drive...

[/QUOTE]

It makes sense Jesse, I tried this out and yes, you are right my state fluctuates a bit. about the masculine drive...I just happened read this other Post article you wrote:



[QUOTE=Jesse Charger;4853]Here’s What NOT to Do

The thing is, most guys do the exact OPPOSITE. They would secretly love to date a tanned blonde more than anything, but whenever they see one, they put their heads down and pretend not to notice her. And they NEVER express their desires.....

[/QUOTE]

AHA! Yes this is whats wrong

I see a girl have passion for her and social anxiety kicks in... and I then cockblock myself at times and hesitate. put my head down pretend not to notice her and look away..
I like how you put this cause it makes sense...
Excellent ,thank you guys.

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Youre not the only guy who has seen an opportunity and didnt approach. I have done it so many times so dont beat yourself over the the head.

For me pickup begins at each morning when I get out of bed. I shower, shave look at myself in the mirror tell myself how handsome and sexy I am. I head to the station make small talk with old lady at the bus stop. Get onthe bus pay for my ticket do some small talk with the bus conductor.

Get of the bus head to the coffee shop. Chat to the girl behind the counter about her day so far. Head to work on the train.

By this time I am already in a "social vibe". In my experience once you are switched to a social vibe its easier to move to sexual vibe.

Take every opportunity to make conversation with people around you. To get yourself into a social vibe. Constantly talk to different people during the day. Even to women you dont fancy.

Some guys in the community have this ego thing. Oh I only smooth talk to hot women. Guys who do that end up having a tool to talk to hot girls but it never really becomes part of their personality. Once it becomes a tool which is not part of them they find it harder to switch on when they see a girl they really do fancy.


Hope this helps
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Yeah, I agree with, FM..I have stalled/hesitated many times and still do.
But, I also do the things FM does by being friendly with as many people as possible.
Here's my moto:
Be friendly and flirt with ALL women. This includes TOUCHING the women. (Handshake, squeeze her hand, touch her shoulder, etc.)
Yes, I can see it as developing momentum as soon as I wake-up.

TM

performance anxiety sticking point in daygame: answers Justin Wayne and others

Daygame hesitation sticking points :I noticed a pattern




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I only do daygame.

and most scenarios have to do with either being somewhere and seeing a woman hot doing random errands and I get clueless at times to open them.

I dont go to coffee shops and bookstores just for pickup, I got ton of stuff to do and I think I should have an ability to be somewhere and get a chance to get to know a girl.



A scenario is today I saw was :



Gas station I was pumping gas and the car

the car behind me a hot woman comes out and goes in to pay and then goes to pump her gas into her car , she looks elsewhere doesnt notice me..I try to go open and hesitate...dont open F-K!





Library: Im standing looking for a book standing infront of bookshelf looking at books,I notice a cute girl looking at me ,

I look and notice her looking at me and catch her eye.....I hesitate and look away back into looking into bookshelf and she leaves....F-K!



Outside Supermarket:

I was driving by talking w my brother in my car a notice a woman who is corner who walks out of a local mini mart...I drive by slow and she then stands in the corner to cross , she stares and then I smile she smiles back with a sexual vibe and I drive away....its like we exchanged sexual eye contact....





I noticed from this and other posts before that Im constantly hesitating to open, Its ok to be caught off guard but now its becoming more and more often these scenarios and Im not doing something about it and its frustrating.



I would like any suggestions on this issue Im having.

Thanks guys

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Hey Sandros



I've been studying hard for finals too. Its good to hear from you again.










Firstly, I want you to know thats it is only natural to feel 'off guard'. Stranger approaching is NOT normal and is considered 'weird' to normal people. Stranger approach, as you may have noticed, takes a certain mindset to carry out. That is why I look at it as a sport since you are playing against some odds which enhance the feeling of success.










The reason why it is a "performance" and NOT a way simple way of life, it's because we are not programmed to consistently meet and trust people who we do not know. Even if we program ourselves to do it, the people who were are approaching will still be conditioned to not truly connect with strangers in any meaningful way. This is why it has to be a 'performance'.










Some people think that performing means coming off fake. This is not necessarily the case. Even if someone looks perfectly natural doing random stranger approach game, they are still 'performing'. They are simply performing well.










That being understood. I remember you mentioning that you have a lot of experience gaming in NY and Miami. I guarantee that anyone who is not a NEWBIE is definitely not afraid to 'approach' a girl and simply just open. That's an easy task for anyone who have at least approached dozens of strangers. Especially since you can simply walk away if you approached ONLY for the sake of practicing opening.










It has now come to my attention that what most people (who are not newbies) do NOT fear the Approach. They fear the PERFORMANCE that they have to do after the open. It is relatively easy to say "hi". It is difficult to perform after saying hi.










Let's think about it. After you approach the girl to say hi, then you have to barrel through many potential challenges and social awkwardness that you have already faced far too many times in the back of your mind. She may look at you as if she is uncomfortable, she may be slightly rude to you, she may be friendly but still not interested in you and you find out later, She may get a phone call. OR, you may sound nervous, you may forget what you were going to say, you may be lost for words, you may say something stupid. Etc.










Performing is the act of trying to get the girl in which 99% is after the opener. Performing is what you must face in real time. It is wat makes you feel like you 'invested' or 'wasted' your time.










Approach Anxiety = Only for NEWBIES


Performance Anxiety = For most people who are actually trying to get the girl.










There is also a strange notion that "naturals" can just do random street approach and get laid like rockstars. MAJORLY FALSE.










Naturals do more warm approaching. The most difficult thing a natural would do is a WARM Approach in a social venue where it is NOT awkward to approach women. Naturals inherently know that at first glance, doing random stranger approaches on the street is not the ideal thing to do. Truth be told. It is not. Most naturals meet girls though social circles and a bar of friend etc.










Naturals do not randomly approach stranger and get laid. When they try, they too look and feel awkward in many cases too. It is not that they are social awkward people, it is just that they are going against social nature. Random Stranger approaching goes against it.










So stranger approach is a performance because it is not Natural to approach random people and make a true romantic connection with them. This is why it has to be looked as a science and art from in my humble opinion. The science has to do with the ratio of what works and what doesn't. The art is how you convey what you are suppose to.










So do not beat yourself up because you do not approach a girl when you are going through your normal activities. Even I do not approach all the time. It feels awkward for me too when I am not in the MODE or mindset. I mostly get laid when i change my mindset to perform. Since stranger approaching is out of the ordinary and goes against our very nature. I pass beautiful women in my life all the time too.










Stranger Approaching can be learned. But like anything else, it is not for everyone. That is why I will always let people know the truth about it. It worked for me after digging very deep.










This is why I suggest to society at large that Random Stranger Approaching should be only viewed as a niche and will always be a "niche". Just like any other challenging sport such as Free Running.










Also, if you want to feel sane, please do stranger approaching in moderation. I always tell my students to NOT practice every day, It will make you come off weird. Unless you have a great social circle of people who you are always in touch with.










Ultimately, whether you become great at Random Stranger Approach or not, focus on being apart of social circles where you can be given a fair chance and also come have normal interaction with people without trying to get something from them. It is good for your social mental psyche.










It is normal and ok to feel this way.










Nothing is wrong with you.










Hope this helps.






Justin WAyne


PS. I wrote this long because I felt its time for me to start giving more advice so people can understand what I am about. I will take your name out of it for confidentiality. Great question. Let me know if you have any other questions



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Originally Posted by Illustrator


Hesitation comes from fear. Kill the fear you kill the hesitation.



Thanks man.GREAT Advice.





Quote:


Originally Posted by RedSeraph


You have an advantage in that you are trying to make these approaches during the day, to strangers you will likely never see again. Keeping that in mind, if you mess up, there really isn't any damage done, no one to be embarrassed to. So you have nothing to lose just snapping to say SOMETHING, ANYTHING to these ladies, and crashing and burning, just to get used to opening quickly and thinking on your feet. This should motivate you to act first and think later. Get the experience.



You are right I shouldn't feel nervous.I should say this to myself. Thanks





Quote:


Originally Posted by LastMan


Obvious question:






Have you ever not had this problem? Or does the 'daygame' you 'do' consist entirely of missed oppurtunities?




Not really, in the past I would do standard cold approach, but since I started noticing girls checking me out and giving me IOIs and started using more eye contact to initiate (something Ive been experimenting) I get into these situations and hesitate..cause Ive never read or heard anyone talk about girls giving you interest in Pickup ,its always about you doing a bunch of cold appraoches. Also in NY its mainly street game by foot , but here in Mia.. here it isnt common for a stranger to appraoch, its not social thing to do that.

you can say that Im in the middle of "I know I can appraoch" and " Ok she gives interest" "this is a gas station, now what ?" or " She is eye fucking me, OK what am I supposed to do".

Like performance anxiety of some sort.
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TEQUILA MAN SAYS:
Yeah, Sandee, I call it stalling. We ALL do it.



ForeverMan and Jesse should have some good advice.




TM

My Dad corrected me my overexplaining sticking point

Hey I had that overexplaining and I cathc myself over and over doing it.

Today, I was trying to explain w " you have to understand..."

I got cut off by ,y dad as he said

"HEY dont waste your breath or salivia explaining, you are talking to me, Im older and wiser..... you dont have to explain, it is easy...and simple

I go to the point I dont go around the issue trying to understand why,

I just do what I have to do and go for it ...the rest I dont care"


so basically here he is teaching me a lesson.....

dont force other people to understand you , they wont always.
you can express yourself but dont try hard for them to try to get them to understand you or push too hard out of your way to do that- WAYNE DYER mentions that in his wonderful book on pulling your own strings...wher you become victimize by this...

He is right, I shouldnt....


I think Ive pushed myself too much into a one dimensioanl character.

I have to review my goals and review brian tracy's sceince of self confidence.


I have to breathe and meditate, talk to GOD.

be social again, try to get calibrated and not weepy.

I dotn really think I had that problem until now, or until Karrey explained about dont educate people what you are doing.


I taught that to Jorge.


I should leave from PICkup theory again, to regain practice and experience....I think Ive gotten too much info and inventive theories than practice.

and thats bad.

there has to be a balance..
like a diet and food.


Im happy cause my dad corrected me and he is Alpha....he is a sneaky guy and manipulative, I think Im turning into him a bit.


I saw a black guy standing talking to a girl her body language of the girl was more investing towards him.

I rememebr zellly the guy that had a one night stand with asisan girl in nyc.

guy is funny smooth and player at heart or at the club.

PU stuff is cool but overexplaining and getting too techinical SUCKS.

in a way Casey learned to be good with women the right way.

learning from community, sucks ass.

Im happy I will re unite with natural soon.

Im very happy.

when I was with natural I just heard entropy and some topo stack and sinn. swinggcats push pull prizing and sinns breathrough comnfort w SNLs.

attraction can be easily learned at any time.

It knowing when to spike BT

Ryan expalins well and asian playboy.
Adam knows breaking rapport no more than 3 times
entropy calibrates his breaking rapport

so I will post on BT stuff as a collective to review.


I loved 9 and 10 game and alpha male and high end club game and issues in qualification cause he relates to frames.


Mr M and braddock taught me more of awareness stuff I was lacking.

beign genuine not different and assume high value traits.

I want ot learn dance , yoga, and some sport.

I shoudl do improv and toastmasters stuff. Cool.


SUMMARY

Sticking point comes from my inner game , LSE and self dount of insecurity.

SO observing ego and cathcing yourself and especially if someone gives you feedback to calibrate is awesome.

that shit is rare.

thanks Dad :)

tripp feedback review of sticking points

I talked with Tripp and the guy is expert.

I recommend him for any sticking points.

he help me modify my game to the present,

very realisitc.....great fucking coach.

1- ideas to pull cause im temporarily
living w parents house.as iam working on getting back to dental
school. I pulled easily b4 miami but now different.any suggtions so it
doesnt look like mamas boy.lol. Or whatever comes in mind you d
suggest.


dont talk about that part of yourself get her crazy attracted to a point of not caring.

2- girls in group alpha girl shit test me by cockblocking
'hey no guys tonite, its ladies night' eventhough friend is into me.

shrug and not care, unaffected use her social proof and warm approach the target by eye contact and bodylanguage takeaways. then gaze a bit and try to re open her.it a waste of time and try not to be rude.be socially intelligent.

3- i hesitate when things are going good in set.or get a positive
response from a girl. What your mindset.

HAVE NO EXPECTATION OF OUTCOME, NOT CARE.
FOCUS ON LISTENING AND MOVING FORWARD

4- I caught myself
overexplaing and repeating myself in set.girl gets bored fast drifts
away. Or as im running rapport i validate her point of view and then
she turns bodylanguage and ends convo. What you suggst?

try to hook her attention,by tease or creating tension by push pull,
either way just do it at least for practice, stop overthinking when you are there just do it, overanalyze it after.see opportubity you go forward, thats the KEY TAKING THE FIRST STEP

try to make stories like Entropy excersize 3 sentence.
try getting her invested in convo as ADAM LYONS teaches.

5- Flakes and not caring, I get a flake and get reactive that I should teach her a lesson...

WRONG! be the ghost in the airplane show you dont care how she behaves wildly but make her react towards you in the process of seduction.mindset is either way its not a big deal and never take it personal.

6- calibration , keeping calibration.

going out warming up talking to people, building comfort w females will help.

entropy-solid game , CLOSING!, flake how to react,sticking point of LSE

I credit entropy for my success,

i love his LR's and I leanred from him.

I made a mistake of not writting down what rotuines I used , I have to review SNL and his LRs.

trusdt and comfort frame I have to perfect it.

I have other logistical sticking points with car and me driving thing and sexual secaltion.

how I close is pump BT and disqualify and get her invested in buying me ice cream....
once that I used to enjoy the view and other shit but her its harder.

Its kindah lik emission imporssible.

But "this isnt mission difficult, its mission impossible"

so , I have to ask someone. to review and reanalyze infield.

I know i can do it and If i push myself I can.

I noticed in the past I didnt pay attention on too much whether or not she did or didnt do or even flaking, in the past I was reactive adn when I got good , it shown non needy....and that really intreged girls.

so even flakes, I shouldnt putt to much empahsis on her flaking or not responding, definate sticking point I cathc my LSE trying to do , and there is a connection.


never react to her and be like a cool friend yet sexual.

Adam remebered how I had rapport with girls, I was calibrated due to rapport with girls, thought and ran comfort like a girl but ran SNL frames and cosmo routine and qualifyed hard after ...after cosmo routoine it was like a walk in the park and basically pacing and leading, social pressure and disqualification of plausible denialbiloity with escaltion...and INVESTING her into it later to time bridge and creating a smoke or art of distraction to distract and you act non needy not intersted and either tired or fun, to spike her BT.


for closing its entropy : spiking BT, ozzie transformation , swingcatt LR's.
essential of investing for a close is ADAM! :)

BE A MAN TAKE THE FIRST MOVE, dont care of outcome but TAKE INITIATIVE in smart way.

sticking point transitioning and awkward silence

I did a mini podcast on this
my sticking point of scenerios and awkward silences and transitioning, I say aWAKEN is master, use situation or what you notice and open another thread, if its enclosed placed then dont force it reopen and you cut it first.

before PU game its head game FIRST

Mindset is important, its to get you motivated and concentrated on your work.

social interactions is important as well.

whatever is in your head can make it or break it, in life and with girls.

My friend said "turn shit into fertilizer"
"turn negativity OFF it doesnt take you anywhere"

Plus the concept of the power of engaement and time management and being proactive , closer mentality which is MOVING THINGS FORWARD!!!!!!

GEtting your goals, being active and hungry for success to live comfortably and enjoy life.

its like excersize to get in shape, takes sacrifice dedication to get there.

right tools right knowledge you can,

My trainer said "its all about consistency and persistant" "sticking to what works"
"nutrition is key" Tom vennuto is the BIBLE of INNERGAME

If you use it for pickup its effective, reading ti wont make you skinny but doing excersizes and nutrition how the concept is and applying it to a habit,

right now Im doing AIKIDO DIET.

Almost like atkins

all protein, actually alot of protein intake with suplements
and on days I train I eat carbs example:

one wheat bread, half a cup of oatmeal and half a tuna can size of yam.

NO RICE NO PASTA< NO BEANS< NO RED MEAT, NO FRUITS.

so game IS like a muscle like entropy says...

freakin ENTROPY :)


Guys get too wrapped up in learning game and get weird, gain knowledge and cant approach for shit.

So Im going to relax with the reading.

I remember I look into coaching and reading once I knew and looked up the topic what I was failing..

I went to strip club and stoof there got IOIs seem real but did takeaway,not too easy or eager cute girl.... as soon as I got JK Ellis and Lew Payne's book on Stripper Secrets read first page saw diagram and I actually sat right places!!!:)

So my intuition is correct!!! Im a natural :)

SO I have to stop overeactign and overanalyzing myself, thats keep me back.

the fuck up and learn method as a I go since I know women and have experience rather than read on it and stay stuck.

so like Franco says, limit you mind BOX not put too much information....do more than read.

So BADBOY IS right about weird guys in coomunity and I was one hell of weird guy,

Allycat helped me become normal and contrl myself, I actually modelled myself afer him.

So being normal is better than being weird or scripted

from normal its easy to be cool, not try hard cool.

Topo demonstrates its about subcommunications of how you potray your attractive qualities.

lets not go into too much detail on that.LOL. he over does it.


I follow SAFFRON's walk , thought and competitveness. his bodylanguage has helped me.

"I SAFFRON ,THE SEX GOD" "you can call me MASTER" :)

SAFFRON!!!!


that being said....



anyways here is what I sent CJ,


Thanks for introducing me to sedona method,

I read the book and did excersizes but now is when Im starting to be more aware of the whole concept and
Im trying to use it as a leverage to get me away from emotional cloud and being focus on my goal or even in PU , on just being proactive moving things forward.


In the begining ,I'd get relaxed and control my emotions. and positive thoughts stayed, but I realized later that i was indeed feeling happy but I wasnt proactive.or taking action after it.


I noticed NOW since Ive been under alot of stress trying to apply to finish school.. etc aka problem solving or sticking points

the power Im getting is when I breath like deep breaths and clear my head ,

then I tell myself or talk myself about the feelings or emotions aka RUN sedona method

and feel honest about myself without being low self esteem about it,( you know bro? )

then after that I ask myself "what do I need to do to solve this problem?" or "How do I solve it to make it work for me "

I then drink water or sit down an relax and i start getting ideas on how to improve of angles of problem solving.

in my case , papaerwork or ways to get back into school and finish.

anyways, whated to share if you kindah understand what I mean :)

but now thinking this might help in the area of mindset (innergame) when doing sticking point analysis for pu.

just a thought,

Cool :)

-S-

Just did an awesome ultimiate comfort podcast-review and sticking points

I had a talk w eltopo yesterday, guy knows his stuff and is very especific with his appraoch and dominance.vids he has are superb.I appreciate him sharing with me.

I started having thoughts and as I was doing the kelly rippa frame , something came over me...a rundown of feelings like a tornado.

I never had an ego for being Good, that isnt helpful for growing. But for my self esteem and in reality, My game thanks to the natural putting the finishing touches on the obvious aloofness and blindspots I had...made it real and exciting for me. thats where I spent one week wathcing him him doing my phone game and text game and seeing how he elicits their responses blew me away....its a sixth sense of awareness how he was predicting watch how this girls is going to talk abut sex with me within the first moments of conversation.

he said and it went like he'd say....done.

the week after he was in hawaii fucking' lol some girl he met online and within minutes he got there she met him in his room and she was nervous but he took over and didnt react to her, he acted cool and assume positive not negative her ASD was kicking in...minutes after he was recodring her having sex...

AMAZING.


that week I put everything into practice, i had already started getting good with comfort ala entropy...Franco calls it "female talk" I added mirroring, and other hypnotic basic stuff that derren brown does and leading since I was good at improv and my conversational skills by talking with women improved.


thats were sinn and entropy came in to really take me to another level, the level of success.

its doing and when you fail to reach your goal , you ask for help to get there, that lil extra push.

If you want to train with micheal jordan or tiger woods you have to atleast be active practicing and be out there playing hard....

other than that you are wasting money and time....and filling yourself with unnecessary information , which will affect you negatively and cause you to stagnate in theory rather than DOING IT and failing over.

CJ calls it sticking point analysis, where you become your own guru and start improving and fixing yourself based on what you are already doing good at...

This as in brain tracy says about naploean hill or someother finance guru said , after each weekend he review what he did and all stuff he messed up on he tried to find a solution.

entropy talks about it at that moment infield you reframe it and keep going, next day after hours of what happended you can then be analytical about it.

only be aware when you are analytical about it to not take it emotionally affect you or your state or your self esteem, best example is JEFFY's mood swings where he does awesome stuff and then says I SUCK!

wrong, Tim says it how it is...but to improve you always look to improve without being personal about it or affecting who you are "inner game " or self esteem validate you from an outcome of an interaction with a woman..

THATS THE KEY TO STICKING POINT.


I also reviewed my comfort game , frames,dhvs, phone game alal natural, reverse engineering the naturals game, etc..... recorded it to a full 40 minutes of GOLD.

This will serve me as a guide when I will be weak in my game I can look back on.

things on there migght not make it here, EVER. unless I shut the blog down and turn it private on my own.

which guys have done so.

I will secure this with my life might even email it to myself who knows just to keep a dupl of it of never losing it.....its my mojo in a liquid fliud digital form.

one listen is like a programing of a player.

FR:FUCK another sticking point noticed

When its time to pull and she says she cant dont fucking back off PERSIST:You say
" HEy whats wrong with you, you get the west side highway and we are right there..less then 7 minutes...

What are you talking about ? (look at her like she is a retard) " Honey Stop that shit OK, Get your ass over here, you re gonna have an awesome time...trust me " and slowly smile ...

LEADING HER!!!!

another one was when I got opened I should exploit her by smiling and kino and start talking whatever.. lightly tease since she shes you as high value no need to over neg MICROCALIBRATION and LEAD
then ask her what you doing after this ? or th agenda for later?
smell her hair AVOID BORING REGULAR GUY TALK

NO Deep Comfort in bar or high energy club BE COOL and yet challenge...

The rule of no more than 2

no more than 2 teases-Sinn
no more than 2 sexual glances -CJ

qualify with 2 small med large hoops -Sinn
and calibrate the steps if you can skip... - AFC ADAM

OVERESCALATE is better than not doing it.... JeffyRSD

All Girls SEEK VALIDATION and ATTENTION...even tipsy drunk ones.... My own assumption

Im re-working a stack and responses based on when Im being qualified by the girl

less you care he easier you pull and more effort you make her get invested the better....

No DHV stories assume you are high value and just use statements -noticed by modeling my wing the VA instructor guy how he games he makes her work to figure out who he really is raher than giving her straight answers....


strippers areaster gamers and they are easily BT spiked if she investing -my wing VA instructor



Always oversell the After Party like a college game study partner = SEX


rewrite stack with Sinn's Sample

FUCKING LEAD! FUCK!!!!
DONT GIVE UP SHE IS TESING YOUR ARE A LEADER TO LEAD HER TO SEDUCTION
DONT EXPECT HER TO HELP YOU ORCHSRATE IT < YOU MAKE IT HAPPEN!

FUCKIN LEAD!!!!!!

FUCKIN LEAD__PUSH YOURSELF ! UN THE TRAIN

USE SOCIAL PRESSURE and SAY "ALRIGHT LET"S GO!" - SINN

Shyness = weak and unconfident= unatractive VS wreck the room who gives a FUCK!


went over then lost sets and dead numbers...ok next ?

FR:Level change in game and sticking points.looking to do a 30 day challenge

FR :Went out with a cool wing... he is a VA insructor....

but alot of this I noticed from him and need to model him.


GIRLS LIKE GUYS WITH " A D D" don' t be logical

Play the badboy by dominance and leading and breaking rapport
and compassionate nice guy by hugging her and smiling at her..compiments on her personality

Hey I had to write this up eventhough I have challenges aside from this skillset

-issues at school
-friendships lost
-Financial and Future matters

Today,
DAYGAME subway
NIGHTCLUB GAME upscale
STRIPPER GAME at 2 places


I did day game in subway ... situational opener obsevation then Comfort+coldread +Qualification

(rinse and repeat and throw in a tease and light kino)
If she is nice and creaive person qualifier I run the Love Poem pattern then elicit value by qualifying afterwards reward...


Direct on NYC Subway is too creepy dont do it.... only if she AI and you want to



My bday is coming up .. and My confidence level went up...but I have somewhere a bit of sticking points:

-Dance Floor GAME is a PLUS in NYC - a mistake in it you get blown out
-Lack of Leading the intraction -they get bored and I have to put more fun or be more funny and playful
-I had 2 girls hardcore qualifiying and interested but didnt get anywhere
-I had to run it and LEAD
-Too dependent at waiting for signs
-Not escalating
-Cant come up with a creative complement instead of "cool and awesome" sounds too vague
-Dont look up and stop talking or act distracted you are shooting yourself either you talk and lead or Qualify
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MICROCALIBRATION ( must read review fom Sinn's notes)

In convo when to tease when to neg

when to go kino and energy of opener I either tooo high

different ways to reward to her instead of just a "nice"

Different of Giving Value and being easy: Give value is lightly use, calibrate with takeways then end it with a smile.

Practice giving her Male Stripper role play.

then ask : "Im going to this after party afterwards, what are you doing later?"


CALIBRATE in TEXT GAME :If she doesn't repond you TEXT: FLAKE

Dont over pursue her and take 20 minutes to repond dont over respond too quickly and too eager.
that kills attraction and she knows that you are into her...GAME OVER


Notice your bodylanguage ticks when you are under social pressure or see a beautiful woman....

Strippers are FEMALE MASTER GAMERS!

Use Mystery's I had past GF....Go make money and come back.

Practice you being a tease....

Ask her when on a week day where she goes on a day off to get a drink

PURSUE or CHASE : DO NOTHING just have FUN and Qualify
anyone can number close but number close has strength when you do it SOLID
if not dont worry or ovrthink women give ou their number to anyone


What you do for a living? --NOthing

have her ask you and get her o ask you and response more playful and interact

WRITE IT UP ?!!!!!! BITCH!!!!!!

KNOW HOW TO TIP the difference of being cheap and being taken advantage
Tip and invest:

if waitress complains of the tip ask her to give it back...

Strippers dont date customers unless you run jealousy and dont so her too much interst and treat her like a bud and not like cusomer yet you tip the dancers on the stage but not the girls wanting to give you a dance...

OBSERVATION : HE gets her invested by being friendly then funny then serious for a second then smile and tease....

Dont run sexual stuff on convo..hat will get her into worker mode.

social anxiety excersizes , tone th convesation, facial expression correction on mirror, conversation excersizes, BHRR compliment and back it woth Confidence!


GET A FUCKIN COOL LIGHTER !

KNOW HOW TO GET NUMBER CLOSE have a card and know how o ninja number close

Know


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THINGS TO TAKE AWAY FROM STRIPPER GAME:

Too much comfort too early
remove the "what makes you unique ,different or special" in qualification
travel questions or where in the world
dont talk about money
STOP going very personal withtout small hoops qualification its
COMFORT
ELIMINATE Response likeevery other boring guy
AVOID connection patterns they avoid feeling and seem aware of NLPor hypnosis


YES: GO EXTREMELY PLAYFUL TEASE LIGHTLY WITH KINO
BE DESCISSIVE
COMPLEMENT on herPERSONALITY and challenge her ala Sinn Hired Gun game
B-H-R-R is very Effective
Buy the manager a Drink
know how to respond to her stack and microcalibration:
I f she is direct you say : " Not right now but YES! maybe Later" : )
BE Happy and playful :
Add a funny calibrator into COSMO routine so her BT is up before eliciting and its more compliant
USE sinn 's Cold reads

Review ELTOPO POST ON Stripper game

Write up a Stack

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Showed me he was talking and texting w a major PUA well known guy....

we went to a fancy place all in suits and ties except us.... be social guy with the people that work there talk about their night ...

know another bar nearby if you isolate...

When she had an olive I oped my mouth and she didnt comply and I should have said " Greedy Bitch"

Don't over do the goofball and or dork use lightly ............once and dont repeat it comes too insulting...

calibrate her emotions in the interaction.


I WILL WRITE MORE AND ORGANIZE MY THOUGHTS I LEARNED ALOT...

The persuassion book and audiobook on the TOP RIGHT OF THE BLOG is soo money in seduction and easily related to everyday things we observe in our everyday life yet we are unaware of it... AKA elusive obvious ?

PRACTICAL STUFF WITHOUT THEORY THAT WORKS..... Im starting to apply itonmy personality and mindframe in desciscions in set. SALESMAN theory to get people to like you without being dancing monkey.
being appraochable and confident.


I will consider recording my sets and doing a 30 day daygame night game stripper game rotation challenge
is based on Brad's RSD way of how her got good super fast...

NEW YORK is definte playground for this....

FR:Friday 13th 2009

Went out got rejected 9 times out of 10:

today just openning without using routines


they mostly got bored and left convo...other spent a long time talking did kino and ran comfort

number close and she didnt want to.

group set didnt hook the whole group seated

then after couldnt open on dance floor alot of girls dancing in a group or by 2 girls

some girl open guys with compliment then walked away

got cut of with bodylanguage in convo from a group

got screamed at cause she couldnt listen to me and misintrepret my opener :
"from moves to boobs"

Sticking points noticed:

Need to Smile more

Get outside your head, and get out of spectator mode

Tendency when ignored to look up and be distracted rather than plow and be dominant

Be Social and Friendly

Dont show your intentions

BE more dominant in conversation take the LEAD

Talk Louder

Fluff talk more and ask her opinion

make her talk more and listen

Dont talk about yourself too soon

Do more Takeaways and Tease

Be more interesting in conversation be part of her night to make her have FUN and be memorable.

Open sets for social proof

Dance game

be more dominant

Be more social intuitve and know how to deal with women's rejection and her reaction

Work on attractive qualities to make someone want to be with you

Work on passive value

leave DHV's for later on

Qualify her more


OVERALL:
GO OUT AND PRACTICE MORE !

PERSONAL NOTE:
The best way to have a woman want a LTR is to have her see you have Social proof and you have othr women in your life before you go into LTR.

make her chase you

AHA! Missed 2 SNL's chances but work on sticking points

I was in Philly , got texted by Northern Nights he is cool cat with alot of knowledge in business and game..dude has a sick identity in nyc and is always surrounded with models and naked models LOL!

When I looked over CJ's stuff I found sticking point analysis, I didnt get it but now going for the close seeing a consistent mistake of trying too hard to close...

My state was pumped and was up to go to phillly for a conference, I was talkative and warmed up....

when we got to philly I opene a woman there standing,

I hardy think of openers anymore cause

WHY OVERTHINK IT IF YOU WILL THROW IT AWAY!

I have an intuition now what to say based on going out and being talkative state....
plus if you overthink you will get stuck and not appraoch...same thing with opener.

So thats solved whether daygame or nightgame it just needs to hook and start something going ... SIMPLE!

In that morning, I got number closed by her and maybe I wont see her again who knows she was going out of town and I was going into town...ok.

So I was starting my day and usually it takes me 3 approaches to get in state, I go indirect genuinely then transition with usual game no interest whatsover....

after that Its easy to go direct but thats for another post.....

IM A WARM UP TYPE OF GUY

(check my dennis rodman warm up game when theres period of not going out and to get started in right mindframe, its cheating.)

So I couldnt close and lost 2 chances :

1- Didnt re-open on time and her BT was up another guy wihtout game and who didnt close her challenged her for a shot in the bar and he isolated her but didnt escalate just by her complying to isolate with him and using the excuse of the shot fter her BT was up was an easy and slick close....
when this happens and I see this, I get upset at myself cause I had this happen to me in Boston and the girl was all over me and some chode made out with her...entropy was telling me HEY GO RE OPEN and I didnt, I paid a price....

Next day she showed up and they were talking a bit but she of showed disinterest in him.
HAHA... I could have closed but here's my next lesson.

I was time constraint andI should have re opened with a question where to go out and build comfort and attraction with future projections then take her... spike her BT and escalate.
DUDE she was ready to go boy she just need more comfort and escalation...


2-there was another one I saw gaming a chode, she was qualifying herself and was doing over the top IOI's her game is super tight..he still didnt make a move nor was aware of wat she was doing...NEVER HELP A CHODE! It was pianfiul to watch andits my falu to be in specttor mode but I learn how behavior works when woman act like hunters and some are shy.....

I laughed and she noticed I knew what she was doing...she tried to number close him and he didnt make a move.CHODE!!!!

anyways... She was horny as hell since she was attracted to the guy, and her BT was up and she kept talking about hooking up and shit so I saw her in the hotel and she was with friends..so I taked to her exchanged numbers and she went up to watch "the bachelor"

ok, I text her 30 minutes later with "hey what are you up to now? " which is against community advice....

She responded: "Im in my room watching the bachelor"

I said:" Lets watch a movie after : ) "

she said: "Im, in my pj s already"

I said: " haha...(her name) in pjs...that I have to see " little ambiguity

she said : "well sometother time"

I said:"when is it gonna happen?.....u know what I mean"


I KIND OF FUCKED UP HERE BUT I RAN THE RISK VS TEXT THREAD TO NOWHERE

she said: "Oh I m going to go to sleep, sorry"

I said:"OK, anyways? we will be discrete"

I threw this out there cause I didnt have time to build comfort with frames and threw this out as damage control and break the sexual tension since she wasnt complying.... its common sense to step back cause if I dont it will seen too pushy...
I broke it like its not a big deal and that its mixed understanding w ambuguity...

She was tipsy and I was tipsy.....haha!
its the Jack Nicholson hotel game Paul Janka mentioned it to me LOL!!!!
then AWAKEN my day game wing reminded me that ....

JACK is famous and that Im not....... LMAO

then he said :

"You should have run comfort stupid, why are you soo fucking horny motherfucker !"






I should have taken more time to build comfort and attraction.

comfort for compliance w frames qualification and then build attraction in this case...
but hey it was a trip and I learned to be more subtle...

BE MORE SUBTLE that you intend to have sex with her....plausible deniability

conceal your intentions..... but I learned that I caould have done different and given anohter situation i can do better and review game plan....

YAY! PROGRESSS!!!!


ALWAYS BE CLOSING BUT DONT CLOSE TOO FAST OR TOO SOON BE AWARE OF HER EMOTIONAL LEVEL !


peac out--------------->

Structure of my Game plan in terms of SNL sticking points

OK, Ive been out practicing,

I kind of suck on dates but thats in the works...

I have prepared my structured for my date or D2's :

which includes sharing a "chick crack pinkberry" near my apt.

I role the idea of male female polarity roles, I feel that solidifys thats it isnt LJBF type of thing.

I want to push myself to limits out of comfort zone in terms of:

-Logistics-ask questions
-Frame Control while in set or prevent losing the set
-Damage control and plowing

Closing was a huge problem...

Im sexual person and known infield as aggresive Im not shy about my sexuality and like to be dominant...its just who I am. I get dirty talked by the girl in the venue...I try to go for the PULL!
but by reviewing notes and talking to my instructors that know me and seen me infield...
I was missing an important piece...

THIS IS WHAT I WOULD DO REGULARLY IN SNL VENUES:

1) frame ladder for a makeout make a male female dynamic to create the moment-
2)I go for a makeout , get it and try to pull after wards ASAP,
3)I would escalate aggressive and physically arouse her IN THE VENUE...
4)I didnt isolate properly, seeded the bounce and couldnt handle damage control or contingencies within 20 minute mark.

5)I would tell her let's get out of here or go xyz place ... she say yes but wouldnt comply to actually go.

6) I would see her surrounde by chodes trying to pull her, and I would get into spectator mode seeing her get pull by a chode, actually I ve seen girls pull drunk guys...

I dont know how you guys have experienced seeing that or it isnt a big deal

but after SNL course I started seeing this happend everytime I go to my SNL venues....

I dont have a wing so I solo sarge...I feel like early version of CJ like how he described how he couldnt get a wing but ...He got Better learning by himself.

Im following that concept....


7)I wouldnt open properly in that scenario where the girl is hittin on guys..I would be scared to come off too eager or needy...

8) I cant talk or keep convo for more than 30 minutes, I get her aroused or I get blown out.

9)Im abit too rough when its pull time, I have to finnese it....like CJ ,Sinn and others do,
to make her feel like she is in control eventhough Im escalating...

Being sexual dominant is something I let my inner man come out, or my sexual aggresor.


Always Be Closing !


RESULT :

I would get LMR up the ass!
Wouldnt want to bounce she knew we were going to have sex she was afriad look like a SLUT...
I freeze out for a while then re initate to bounce...I lose her ..
"buyers remorse" next day ..no date, no response


NEW PLAN:

my next step is teasing the girl, give mixed signals whether she has me or not ...sexually tease her.

-Tease for a kiss then do takeaways.... give her a little and take it away...
I got physical shit test by a girlwhen I went out with Saffron I opened group set and she lost interest because I didnt make out with her she then was gaming bartender...
she was a swedish girl in town for a couple of days.

-once I got her turned on I have to s l o w d o w n..... make her want it.

-know how to manage AMOGs and orbiters....I get AMOG alot due to my weight issues some drunk guy always come in and try to make fun of me in front of the girl...I ignore

-plausible deniability: Review this and read LR's

-qualify more and frame her

-Girl being gamed by chodes- I tried this once when the girl was geting ready to leave with a goodlooking chode and I went direct on her, did kino routine qualified her and she kept askign me who I was where did I come from and if I came regularly... I FUCKIN froze, the guy got jealous and she was by herself I gamed other women to create more attraction jealously plotline and the chode kept chasing throughtout the venue as "the guy hitin on all the girls"...

Other stuff to improve overall:

BE more funny ...

Correct deeper voice and talk slower...

Im going to Philly for 2 days and will go to SNL places there.. : )

Wednesday will work whole day in brooklyn then go to SNL venue afterwards

Thursday school ,gym, dance class, martial arts--maybe set a date from online game or Day game w a personal trainer lady I met : ) ...I need more pics for online game!

or College bar night game..hmmm I havent done that in awhile.

Friday -weekend : PRACTICE !

things do tend to change but we will see....

any suggestions?



sandro

note: I will try to post my 1 st SDL at the same day almost had a SNL , my "mojo" was on point...
SDL I had 2 weeks ago 15 minutes meeting her , texting her calling her right after 2 minutes of talking about meet up for a drink, then takeaway of being busy...eliciting for phone sex and meeting now.

I'm terrible at explaining and did alot of bodylanguage since I knew she was horny on the phone. I dont talk alot...Its a bit explicit..haha..Doc holliday read it and called me a sick fuck..the things I can do with a dildo.....she contacted me later that she liked it and wanted to see me soon...
This without being needy....