on thursday, I had a date..I met her online we talk on the phone and set up a date.and at the end had her in the apt...got LMR and I would arouse her and take it away up to the point of me taking my pants off and then me getting up and stoping and she then said that No Dont stop .. I want you to FUCK ME again. I found out she was into S&M...I dont know about you guys but I like Deep comfort game...they emotionally invest and its like a chemistry..she compliments me alot and she texts like she was my GF.
I want to say that I havent closed legitmately by game its my first time...but I reverse the frame got her physiclaly aroused and Id stop before she did..It took me an hour.. Im not sure if its a long time.
Last night I had a date with a woman...russian for me .. a perfect 10
very cold and doesnt even smile and bitchy i ended up leading and teasing her..I noticed with these women (Im latin so Im more touchy feely)
She isnt used to touchy feely anyways we met in the street I bounced to another place and she objected at first and I tease her for being lame
she vented about her problems and i used compasion and understanding while doing touching she opened up and we kissed like 2 times... ran deep comfort with teasing and she laughed alot
( I REDUCED THE AMOUNT OF ESCALATION AS PER D BOY AND THE GUYS )
she knew she was HOT she told me and I used DHVstripper EX credit mystery that beauty is common...then transitioned to what you got going more then your looks?
Her eyes opened after that..she loosend up more.
she drank more
started spanking me and we were in the street like 2 crazy people..i gave her a nickname silly bunny and she called me "jellybean" LOL
(Im FAT GUY LOL)
I bounced her to my place made her buy dessert (investment to go my place)
told her we were going to eat dessert I was going to kick her out after and i had to get up early
I would make out got her on the bed she had a G string and she ended up giving me a backrub after I took off my shirt... her BT was going up and she was getting LMR..i back off and eat dessert and go back at it.she got up and wanted to leave and was standing by the door... I then froze her out by saying ok but im going to the bathroom.
she then was sitting watching tv in the lounge then she stood up by the door
ran natural woman pattern and made out very intense...she moaned
she wanted to leave as soon as I would go more intense arrousal
we left
I acted uneedy and in the cab to her train station..she kissed my hands and my arms she kept caressing them and I had her head against my lap...she said she likes looking at me.
we got out of the cab and I picked her up thus spiking emotions she felt like a gigling little girl
she said she felt wondeful and kept kissing me.. i left on a high note.
she called me later to make sure I was ok and she got home.
I just was cool...not needy nor too mushy just cool "alright babe talk to you later sweet dreams"
today she called me but I breifly spoke and I noticed that on the phone since she is russian ...she doesnt get english jokes. she gets them when I tease her in person but over the phone she sounds plain without any emotion.
I just said something funny and said I was going to work and talk to you later.
I closed the other woman and i didnt close this one...
she is calling me like crazy wanting to talk to her
what you guys think?
I think Im improving from the past mistakes..thank to the guys here and my new roomie who banged 3 new girls last week.
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Originally Posted by LastMan
I don't see a problem here?
Oh wait yes I do, you're looking for problems and submitting everything you do to a group of inexperienced internet wannabes for validation. You need to be able to do this on your own terms. It's your enjoyment of life, it's not for anyone else to judge you by.
Having said that I'm sure D-Boy will be along later with the blow by blow analysis of events.
Well I didnt really meant it like validation...
I have been danging in frustration like a lost in the dark..then its just starting to click. I have no idea how this is happening to me I think I just connect with them so deep but its so boderline BFF and yet I think its weird that they call me...I would be so frustrated should i call her or what she meant by this or that for such a long time ,,,
you know the real guys and the awesome lady posters here that are helping me....
I just think its awesome.
A critique of what i did would be ok but like I said I worte it to have you guys hear what you have to say cause Its a mindfuck thing for me...
thanks for your honest thought but not validation and if it looks like it is then I guess its a compliment that i did it right...
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I going to throw this out there since i nver really understood the theory or any success with SS stuff...It comes off creepy at first...
I use it in the middle of conversation as a question and then I go into it .. it makes it more natural than creepy.
I studied persuasion by david barron which is nlp and hypnosis in persuasion so I do it based on persuassion and not on just rely on the pattterns to work...
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hey guys i just noticed i didnt post a follow up to this...
at the end wher she got LMR for whatever reason, i didnt maek it a big deal so I acted cool cause I didnt care... but I kept sexual arousal by eye contact and bodylanguage and in the cab she lay her head on my lap as I caressed her....this was something that was unreal of this HOT russian chick....
I Sound so LSE God I hate myself .lol.
anyways after writting this last post,
LR: Russian licked me up and down
she called me up to meet up for the weekend, I said cool. next day she calls me and says she wants to see me tonight... weird
My roomate had left to hawai and I was by myself trying to set up these dates and hang out at night going to strip clubs since I was getting pretty descent with strip club game, that day i had a cute girl from OKC , sit with me for 30 minutes, she lost alot of money talking to me as I ran my confident self to turbo without getting a boner.lol
so I met up with russian at times square and was nervous...I xcalled my best friend sicne he fucked a girl once he arrived in hawaii , he met online. the guy is fucking awesome I tell you, no pu lines nothing, pure suave and yet gentle.....serious SICK game.
It was fuckign raining so I couldnt take her back to the place we went on the first date???
so my friend calmed me down after so much panicking,
met the russian and she had high heels and kept touching me hardcore.....I was just nervous and she noticed whats worng?
I said oh the weather sucks cause its raining I ususally go to a cool spot etc...we went to times square and it was stale and she started getting bored...I suggested that I rather make it a rainy movie night and get food there at the apt.
So had changed the light bulb to blue so the apt was kicking ass!
anyways...I wasnt needy and she was kindah leading the convo...I was plain nervous and try to run rapport excersize of relating to what she said like improv class...she was so fucking pretty...and I kissed her here and there like 2 times and we get to the crib, cool.
So I call mexican and had wine ready, there ewasnt antyhign good on TV...so it was getting boring abit but then I get food and lead convo sit confortable like Im with a good friend, my state changes and I feel COOL, CHILL...I serve wine and tease her a bit...
no nlp patterns no routines, pure improv and funny...
I do run sexual eye contact and pull back, very subtle....
this is were I started being aware that at this point of comfort and kissing , thats were sexual escalation goes on slow motion....
I applied the stop you are turning me on ,, what are yo doing to me , kiss her and pull back..
(I was using the frame of she wants to win me over, and she is turning me on)
making her want it more, in a way I could have caveman but I didnt want to risk it, I was taking calculating risks and like bradp I was making her sexual attraction" simmmer".
apparently I kissed her passsionately and push back, then convo aloof, then kiss her and tits, pull back then she gets tipsy and I get hot,
I run good girl face bad girl manerisms routine....and she lifts m y shirt and spills her wine on my chest and licks it from my belly to my neck...
OMFg......WTF is going on here.....
I then told her lets go see the view in my room, I had a beautifl view of the city upper east side of manhattan....my rooomie paid 4,000 per month for that apt we were at 14th floor.
go to my room as I hold her hand to lead her, she just smiling no resistance to her touch,
I have her take of her shoes off to enter my room
(lovedrops says when a girl takes of her shoes at your place, she feels comfortable taking her clothes off)
I sit on the bed staring at the view, in the first date we didnt spend alot of time in the room cause she get LMR and get up, so this was SOLID so far...
ran a story howi love looking at the city its like a interactive art , a picture frame, I enjoy looking and always dreamed of, (passionate dhv)
I sit at a position to kindah get her on top of me to kiss me....
Im leading by subtle positioning like "locking in" on the bed...like she is trying to win me over.... (reverse role frame)
i get her to kiss me no resistace and I start escalating neck nibble ear, soft warm blow at nape of neck, my tender touch of my fingers through her body ass and now tits....its slowly building and I sense she is going to resist or stop me, I beat her to it and STOP first.
(RJ talks about always beating the women to her objections, always object before she does)
So she then says:
"I want to take a shower with you first and I want you to fuck me in my ass"
on the inside I wanted to say HEY!!! like a high school kid, but on the outside just looked at her with sexual eye contact like badboy does, and said confiodently
"Id love to"
she goes in shower as Im getting my towel, I dim the bathroom lights, thank god, cause it makes it romantic, (yes, Im romantic guy )
so I bring her a towel and then we get inside and see her body...
and taste her in the shower , we dont fuck but I like to sexually tease her and foreplay....I learned to make girls really want it and prolong the process so its simmers her wanting it, inside.
after that I think I had some self defeating thoughts in my head , but I pop a Vigra, first impressions are important and do count.lol.
we had sex as I looked at the girl across the street masturbating,
seeing the girl masturbate every night for atleast 2-3 times made my night awesome and fresh cause I never again thought as women were cool and sexual like me...I didnt have to read books or go to a seminar for it...I was fucking living it.
I was happy in this week it was my 2nd girl, and my roomate was ahead with 3 new girls this week, not counting his FB GF or the girl he fucked in hawaii.
I check my text and he sent me "be patient, everything is Cool"
shit that was definately the advice I needed...
as I was fuckign this russian chick I ate the pussy so good....
and I came....
we talked abit after , I remebered I SOI too much and she pulled back and se said look, i dont want this just to be abot sex, or use me as a sex object...
I processed that subtle cue as
"I want to keep fucking you dont make me feel cheap"
she went in detail about her ex BF an older wealthy man who said her pussy was ugly and she smelled bad.
I sincerely loved her body, and loved her smell with my smell, the smell of sex was like a fucking pheremone to me and I gaveher awesome compliments and gave her subtle that
"I understand,I wouldnt want you just for sex, I really enjoy being with you too"
we went again for sex, and sucked my dick so good looking at me with thouse beautiful green eyes and her accent as I made her choke on my cock.
and she told me to fuck her in the ass.
i went for it and afterwards she told me I was too rough on her ass,
"just be gentle and slow".... says to me as she is tired.
I told her I have to get up early, she said
"OK, im going to sleep but I want you to fuck me whenever you want as Im sleeping, Id like that."
I remeber fucking her 2 times again and woke her up early walk ed her to the trian station and she bought me a strbucks coffee, I dont drink coffe but fuck it these girls like me soo much they buy me stuff.
Only thing I have to look over is that I think I did that thing daiv shade demo'd on that clifflist convention dvd of using nlp to get her to touch herself as she is right there, by telling her "so did you touch yourself thinking about me"...somethinglike that...
seriously thats how it went down.
I left NYC that month and we had sex a couple of times, she got depressed and disaaponted. I lied to her didnt tell her I was leaving cuase I was losing the other girls to fuck cause I was being honest with them and they were getting buyers remorse until I fucked 2 more new bitches I had run solid one hour phone game on both of them same day,same still of game, deep cpmfrt and at end were takeaways....when they come see me...one gave me a hard time and almost dismissed her which I ened up fucking her anyways, she had a BF and the other girlwas cool and honest...as soon as I saw her in person again at corner from my apt I walked her to it as Im going to change and we are going out, which I ened fucking her within 15 minutes but got BUYERS REmorse cause afer sex kicked her out, l jenkins says to avoid Buyers Remorse you have to talk and cuddle for 15 mintues after sex, not needy but chill and relaxed happy you enojoyed time together.
thank you guys here
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