Anyone who likes ModeOne? I wouldn't really consider him a PUA and I think what he teaches is pretty valid.
Be upfront with a women, don't hide your sexual interest and risk rejection.
Originally Posted by 60 Years of Challenge
It's pretty good..
thing is trying to teach a shy guy to be DIRECT with his words is hard - much easier and less risky to be DIRECT with vibe
(at social functions, parties, friends) etc.
you can say the same "direct sexual things" with your eye contact, proximity, vibe-presence, facial expressions etc.
once it's mutually ON - you can be verbally aggressive sexual with little to no risk
women are very perceptive you don't have to TELL them you are a sexual threat - they just know by your VIBE
I know, I know, your method is more refined and smooth, but I kind of like the extra "adrenalin kick" from time to time. Not only risking creepy, but risking her to freak out for a unsuspected extremly shameless offer for sex. I am good looking and can pull this off.
Nevertheless, ModeOne also emphasis vibe and eye contact, if maybe not in a detailed manner as you.
Quote from Mode One Hardcore:
"No form of non-verbal communication is more important than
confident, direct eye-contact. I cannot even begin to emphasize
to you the power in your EYES. You ever wonder why my "Mode
One" logo emphasizes my eyes? Whenever you approach a
woman, you should always look her DEAD INTO HER EYES in
the most highly self-assured manner as possible. You
communicate a lot of 'subtle, subconscious messages' with your
eyes.
When you approach a woman, and look down at the floor, or
frequently look slightly to the right side of her face, or slightly to
the left side of her face, or slightly above her eyebrows or below
her nose, that gives off hints of cowardice, fear, insecurities, and
low self-esteem. LOOK THAT WOMAN IN HER EYES."
For me its kind of like a more rough, raw version of your system.
Some more notes (took them from theplace):
"
Female Psychology: She loves orgasms, even if she denies it.
Women present themselves as "good girls".
They want to feel like "bad girls".
Body: Exercise every day or every other day.
Voice: Sound like you're talking dirty to her, as if during sex.
Eyes: Look deeply confidently in her eyes.
State: Have Real balls. Never Allow Ego-Attachment to specific desired results or reactions. Upfront, bold, straightforwardly honest.
Meet them at: Bookstore, library, grocery, gym.
Approach: Talk to her one-on-one. Approach bold and self-assured. If you say something bold, stand by it. Don't ever back down or apologize. Let her know you want to exchange orgasms, then leave her alone: Being creative, cocky, egotistical in your responses; Prepare to respond to "negative reactions".
Test boundaries, make her a bit uneasy. You have the key to unleash her "kinky" side. Acknowledge she's kinky but still respectable as a woman. Not too much flattery and fluff.
Rejection: If she rejects, that's her choice. She can't manipulate you if you're upfront. Never need, only "want" pussy."
In Summery: I think, that next to Janka, Gunwitch (I know you guys hate him, still his method is legit), 60 and a handful of other masf writers, Mode One is another simple, natural and strait-forward method without any bullshit, fluff and mental masturbation for fast seduction and sex.
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Originally Posted by colver84
For all those who don't know the Mode One guy dislikes small talk (i.e. socially awkward guy)
Wrong.
Alan is anything but a socially awkward guy.
But yes, he dislikes small talk. How is that socially awkward? If you're on a fucking important business schedule, are you going to want to stop and chat about the weather for an hour or are you going to get straight to the point about what you want?
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and recommends that guys just straight up say what they want.
Correct.
Cue socially awkward guys coming out of the woodwork now running around telling women "I want to fuck". There was an asian guy who used to do this and I posted up his experiences. Shit was funny as hell.
But is it the advice that is wrong, or the interpretation of the advice?
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He also thinks dates are a waste of time and recommends you tell the girl upfront you want to meet up to "exchange orgasms". Then holding your ground and refusing to back down and apologise.
That is his personal style.
If you read the original Mode One book then there is nothing about him saying "exchanging orgasms". I agree, exchange orgasms is a strange phrase for me too, but he's also a 45 year old guy. Obviously if you've heard him talk about saying "exchanging orgasms" you've somewhat read up on him.
So you think exposing your interest in women, and then them saying either they're not interested or that they don't like how you're just about (casual) sex, that you should apologize for it?
Come on man.
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Now imagine your average asian pua trying this with a blonde amazon twice his height!!!
Honestly. I know a younger Asian guy who is skinny, but he is very similar to this and he gets a lot of little girlies.
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looking into a woman's eyes and early touching is the simpliest way to "pick her up"...
but it's funny how nobody does it... =================================================================================
To be "Mode One" with someone means to be extremely candid and provocatively honest, particularly as it relates to someone expressing desires, interests, or intentions related to sex.
"Girl ... that man approached me, and he was very Mode One with me. I was shocked at some of the things that came out of his mouth!!"
"I met this woman last night, and she was totally Mode One with me. I wasn't talking to her for more than two or three minutes before she asked me could she give me a blowjob..."
"I was at this house party the other day, and this guy was being totally Mode One with these women. As soon as he approached them, he just started asking them about their sexual fantasies, and sexual preferences. I couldn't believe how bold and sexually straightforward he was with his language..."
Ive done shock and awe for a whole month in NY before I was getting laid and it didnt work for me...the girls would look me up and down ,look at me to see if I was being serious as a test and turn away...so I say that it could be similar to Sleazy's style.IDK but I think so.
2nd.-Just found out about Mode One since you guys mention it so many times here...which is the original Mode one?
I think he has like 4 books and dont know which is the original one.
I cant mentally masturbate wasting time so anyone please tell me which is original mode one post or ebook.
3rd- during the time Id go out at night for 3 weeks straight after 1am to bars, I would "prep" girls to go have sex..using plausible deniability to timebridge but it was obvious for sex.
I guess PREPPING is a form of Mode one.
The thing is that it wouldnt work cause it would come off as being desperate for sex, so girl at first would get turned on when I first when sexually direct but to timebridge to have sex...she would get turned off and throw shit tests or leave me to go open a group of guys...as a result of going sexual direct.
We are talking about a bar at 3 am girl walks in..the only girl in the bar I go and talk to her, things are going well... and I get AMOGed by guys taking her away and i go sexualy direct then try to timebridge her , then she goes with AMOGs.
thats what Ive been facing with "preps" and mode one type of stuff at night.
papa - you are thinking far too much. The beauty of Mode One and 60s stuff is that it helps screen out the timewasters (those girls deliberately leading you on or unconsciously just enjoying your company)
Originally Posted by papa sandros
Ive done shock and awe for a whole month in NY before I was getting laid and it didnt work for me...the girls would look me up and down ,look at me to see if I was being serious as a test and turn away...so I say that it could be similar to Sleazy's style.IDK but I think so.
Words, ime mean very little. I think Mr Modeone puts to much empahsis on being direct with words.His book is like 100 pages about how and why to be verbal with words, and then 1 page about sexual vibe and stuff. It's not really that important (the words), ime, so a large part of the book was imo mental masturbation on a not so important part of a seduction. As long as it's not totally wussy/asexual, or comes of as not genuine.
The vibe, eye contact, closeness and touch is though much more important.
I agree with that Cian dude: "looking into a woman's eyes and early touching is the simpliest way to "pick her up"...
but it's funny how nobody does it..."
Praobably the girls you talked about, it wasn't "on" (yet, or would never be. Who knows) with her. Then going all sexual verbally, you will probabaly encounter quite a lot of rejections then verbally. Even if she likes to fuck you deep down, she will probably behave/talk disgusted. when it's "on", the risk of that happening, is much lower.
Thus I agree with 60 here. "once it's mutually ON - you can be verbally aggressive sexual with little to no risk"
That said, being rejected verbally can be hard to overcome. But if one handles it with being laid back about it while staying persistent about it, the girls that acted offended (but actualy wants to fuck you) will usually turn around later on. Yet it's making it harder for yourself, unnesecairy imo. Because overcomeing an verbal "no" is the hardest thing to do, ask any salesperson.
I agree man. It makes sense cause I ended up stopping going sexual intent cause it would creep girls out.
Even if they were horny and bar hoping at 3 am.
I noticed that sexual intent of talking the elusive obious and making it verbal...it makes look you that you either dont get laid and are desperate; worse that you dont have social intelligent therefore you havent had prior sex with women so you come off needy for sex.
Once I stopped "prepping" and being sexual intent early verbally , things clicked more easily and got to a point of making her want you.
So I can say if someone plans to go Modeone , you have to atleast know if you need to build light rapport and when to strike when its hot like you mentioned scarface.
Verbally like you said isnt big deal, thats why some guys dont even other using SS, once they get good.
its like you dont need PUAStuff.... but Modeone is for guys who are midlevel and are social savvy to know when to use it.
Otherwise if you go modeone allthe time you will be dissapointed.
it could work.
verbal part is too much,too soon, unecessarily.
principles of eye contact and project a vibe ..that is pretty good, only with fuckups and experince. IMO
GM style instead of direct sexual intent verbally can work better, thats what I do when I know she wants it and yet she is shy about it. push pull and make it less weird
Thats dumb, girls are always interested in SEX. MOde 1 and 60 methods seem ok. I tried it, it only works for few girls who are in the mood for that.
But you still have to open a shyt load of women. and its really hit and miss.
I think PapaSandros is right. I also am always in field testing things out. Its a good "ideal" i also find that it did not work on the hotter girls, you will have to build basic social comfort. THats what i like about Justin Wayne, he talks about how to properly mix the necessary things in.
He said to get hottter girls, going super direct all the time will just be hit and miss. Especially if you are in an area where there isnt a lot of cute girls to hit on. Thats why in real life, i didnt like doing the mode1 and 60 stuff. It makes sense to do it only when you have basic social comfort.
but MOde 1 does sound simple and new, so its like the "new hope" until too many ppl report that they still arent getting lays ( just like the MM method).
i sometimes wonder if nothing works..lol
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