Hey whats up dudes
Im going to write this up cause I get frustrated sometimes and I have my personal reasons why..
That being said..
I want to talk today about Miami but mostly
LAtina women mentality
I come from a latin family
I was married to a latin woman
and My mom is latin.
I dont want to hate but i find MOST latin women to be:
- bossy
- want the man to do everything for them
- want to be princess.
especially when it comes to sex.
The want the old fashion courtship deal...except HOT puertorican women ; )
but seriously most LATIN women you take them to go out on a DATE or even say HANG OUT for them that means the same thing ...COURTSHIP
they think that as soom as you are talking to them ..that you are all about that and they are higher value and you should work for it.
that a woman has dignity and respect...
I agree in all levels but that doesnt mean thatshe is better than me
OR i have to put up with her nonsense
That were the MACHISMO COMES FROM
and believe it or NOT
It controls them but up to a certain LEVEL
the outside level of what MOST MEN DO WRONG
OK thats fine to to courtship GAME...if you are a woman or if you have a rotation and are seeing several women at the same time.
IMO its a waste of time unless she is beauty queen with money...even that becomes a problem cause I was married with a wealthy one.
I learned from my date in miami ALOT ... I thank her days later and till this day hasnt returned a text...maybe she thinks she is too good for me :P
first off we connected and I teased her and called her names...
kept in touch through texts.
until i got into town and just ran fun and intersting texts
I learned from Sinn in damge control to run fun and interesting to get her to ask YOU OUT
and I made her ask me out
and we met on a rainy day which is not common..
we met and she was very proctective but I know what i did wrong.
and it had to do what living in miami VS going to miami as a tourist
1) Latin women and dating are courtship if you live there...
they will fuck a tourist from ny or if you are white guy and have SNL
but if you live there they will want you to buy dinner and all types of shit like that...they demand attention and that you behave.sex is only when she wants.
2)DISTANCE and LOGISTICS
topo taught me logistics and sinn talks alot in snl course
basic stuff but in miami its driving and drinking and how to get her to your house without her sayingi have to go gto work and all types of objections.
I rather live near a shopping or place where theres alot of stuff going on and invite her by my way.
Latin women make all types of stupid excuses...
as with other women you can use social pressure and get them to do anything.
LATIN WOMEN
use alot of PUSH PULL
ANY WOMAN THAT DOES THAT HAS A HISTORY OF STALKERS
as per Paul Janka's book talks how when a woman shows push pull it can drive any man insane.
THERE IS TRUTH
They look up to their mom's for personal advice with men...courtship
They try to play madonna whore complex BS
when they are getting their thrill by either cheating or money or getting fat.
THATS WHY
I love white women
I love orange hair or blonde with green eyes
especially IRISH AMERICAN
call them white trash or whatever but the ones I meet are cool and I am unique for them....
THE DEBRIEF I GOT FROM MIAMI DATE was that she said
" You seem very diffrerent and Fun"
AKA BE COOLER THAN THE GIRL
I didnt close cause I over escalated and she paid for one round of drinks..I went too sexual and pushed it too far wihtout calibrating.
she got all bitchy and screamed at me in my car then called me 2 times and text me later that night...VERY INCONGRUENT and PUSH PULL
No thank you!
if you look at the date this was 2 weeks ago...
Monday, June 8, 2009
Sunday, June 7, 2009
FR date with HBvikchick
dude this woman was online as per the prvious post ..negged me.
and when I stood up for myself
she called me... while in miami.
I have to give credit to my new roomie cause his overall frame of being nonneedy yet persistent CANT BE TAUGHT AT A BOOTCAMP
you would need to live with a PUA or natural
So I owe him my streak...
its weiord cause I have several women emailing me and I might be booked for the week..
one the other hand Its a streak Im in
YOU NEED MONEY TO GAME!
not to pay gurus but to keep a rotation...
just ALWAYS MAKE HER PAY FOR SHIT
Ice cream pull is awesome CREDIT ADAM LYONS*
I have to also appraoch more
My game is semi direct with subcomunications basically comfort and tease then push pull and tease always frame as female male interaction.
when it stales to avoid awkward moments or friends zone is to escalate and pull away...I stole the "WOMAN" thing at the end to show dominance and leading.
sexual is just escalating but pulling back..avoid sexual needy and eveytime you always talk how you can fuck other people shows that you are at another level and not supplicating...
I never imagine I get women so emotionally invested in hours and love me for it.
actually chemistry...
FUCK NEXTING!
YOU NEXT In the beginning...even at that I kept gaming showing non neediness thats how I got this woman to a point to call me...
YOU PLOW UNTIL SHE LEAVES AND DOESNT RESPOND TO YOU
women are supposed to do that all aginst community belief...
Gorgeous and bitchy * as per MR M and braddok;s 9 and 10 game.
I basically had Doc strangelove call me and MMPUA A
major players from miami and experienced online gamers...
I have entropy's style of game and the guy MM instructor SAW and even PSYCH say that :
I have to be the loveable teddy bear
saffrom say dont be the nice guy ...be the awesome GUY!
FUCK MAN SAFFRON is just ahead of all this game.
as per Doc strangelove "act like the prize and high maintance women"
which fuckin worked.
Its weird cause ADAM preaches this nbeign the guy gay best friend but that fucks them....
On that note cant wait to see ADAM next week.
So all shit aside I have to write this up.
GROUNDHOG DAY DATE credit Doc Holliday and my "roomie dr"
she called me to meet up then called her to reassure the date and she called me up to meet later...
my phone game with her is not good so I had natural roomie game her for like 2 weeks spoke to her like 3 times until she called me...WEIRD!
she was abit demanding and I got scared...
she wanted to meet at the starbucks
I said ok... ( I stopped overthinking in game, thanks to dr roomie and entropy)
I text doc roomie and he said she was ready to go (he text me from california)
I show up LATE actually 30 minutes late ( against community belief)
and she was cold and I assume rapport and ran basic chit chat...
she talked and tried to lead.. I noticed I would lose her I would break rapport and tease or say something absord funny..push pull
she was engagged and I used social pressure to timebridge as per last LR
took a cab...go ther and didnt kiss or hug or nothing just winging it... she was just "venting"
I threw in Im sore and DHV kickboxing story this is also why she gave me a backrub later.threw in dhv story of funny knock me out story
AGAINST COMUNITY BELIEF as per roomie let her open up as per Sinn use sexual frames and understanding ..topo get her emotional invested.
she did all that work I just nodded as per adam lyons...
AT HIS POINT IT WAS CHAMELEON GAME... I related to her and building commonalites
light kino..almost minimal...
she is european very sexy and to me a fucking 10 and she knew it...she told me
the problem is she just broke up with a wealthy man older 20 years than her...
told me how her mother destroyed her previous marriage.
I used topo mini stack of insecure men and hi five after that
she has father issues but didnt tease her on insecurites..thats wehere community guiys arent calibrated.
thats why comfort is important before attraction and investement AFC adam
entropy as well but at a deeper connection
connection game is very strong very powerful...Im just trying to figure out how to turn it into obsession bu thats too much...women seem to open up and then nbehave like little girls..its weird.
they also dont like to be seen as objects of desire
they get creeped out or LMR ASD goes off and buyers remorse goes off and you are done...
IM trying to run SOLID GAME as per Sinn
you have solid game and pace her then you SNL or close
as per entropy SNL's depends on the girl in that monet not emotional but what she is looking for.
most SNL's is found in bars or clubs comfirmed by my date tonight
rare woman well traveled and very high class IMO
topic were as per doc holliday taught me
we arrived in wine bar and I acted like I knew the guys and she thought I was a regular.. ( social proof fake LOL)
lead her to where we sat..
at a point she was venting to much and I shared my stories and she lose attention amnd I interupt her pattern..
I would mirror her alot and I would show too much interest would touch a little and take away..I would accuse her of makign me like her and to stop trying to copy me or say things ...she tease back and I would act like a high maintance woman...
I dhv my patient story made by saffron
I also would try to get her to feed me but it seem too soon.
she was a wine expert adn drank 3 wine or 4 wine plus ate calimari appetizer
and seed the ice cream TB.had her agree within the venue..
and I kissed her and she said i was a good kisser ( YEAH I HAD PRACTICE LOL)
I pull back but she would like everytime I escalate and she would be subtle we cant kiss in public or someshit like that...(social intelligence shit test)
I blame her for it and ran the MM classic line I feel foolish blah blah
ran push pull
and did dhv stripper ex credit mystery
showed understanding what it is being with a 10...modified sinns snl course
beauty is common and Im looking for more than a pretty face
qualification what you go to going more than your looks :)
coma story she would ofcourse compliment and invest into it.
saffron's giver taker frame
she is musician so I talked about gifts and talents
how we are both driven
she asked for my BDAY IOI
she reward my compliance
I kissed her like 2 times in venue
ran SNL frames within conversation
nonjudgmental
discrete
no consequence
sex is normal
did topos stack of I have sisters female insider views are different sitautaion in society
she asked about books favorite books amnd I ran cosmo routine..laughed her ass off
did this to reinforced that she was falling in love and not BFF
IT was hard cause its DONT FUCK UP GAME
european arent used to too mushy or too much touching and she was dismissive...
so I definatley played different than other men.
I ran "I usually dont like like this but its rare I feel I can trust you and pinky swear..." reinforce that se wont judge me REINFORCING THE FRAMES BEFORE THE CLOSE!
( create a bubble natural bubble)
I would tease her as we left
amd she started spanking me cause I tease her asnd i do takeaways
she help to TB cause she noticed they were throwing us out so outside I was like she say " we are crazy and I spike her BT and said we are in a big city but its a small world" whtever she said she understood LOL bubble
she tongued me down
I told her right before the cab that I wanted her to be my sexy bunny
she called me her "jelly bean"
in the car she would say she was drunk I say I WANT ice cream
she didnt want to pay for ice cream and I used social pressure and asked her if she was a liar.
kept saying "Jelly Bean" and made her say bunny in russian and said it back to her
I did a show in front of the mexicans at the store
display of game
she paid for it INVESTEMENT she choose the ice cream and I reward her for having good taste and kissed her .. (NLP anchor)
she was wher Im I and I said i have to get ogin so I walk you out ... (ozzie rsd as per last LR)
she went up to the apt and i gave her the tour
and she took her shoes off LOVEDROP
did view TB and thus made it congryuent and fed her ice cream and got her on the BED and we made out...
I escalate but it was thin line...
she had a g string and I almost lost control
she had started spanking me and
she wanted to give me a backrub and I would kiss her after it escalating and did saffrons hairpull rouitine
she loved it and felt arrousal and I would stop and push pull and go into ice cream..
funny and joking
then she stood up and I ran natural woman pattern added "the sluts and whores"
made out with her and she was like I have to go ...
I knew where my limit was so I do a freeze out in the bathroom and texted my boys northern nights and doc strangelove.
she was sitting watching TV and I escalated again and she took it away...
_______________
mistake:she beat me at takeaways and I should have ran non needy frame of we should take it slow and I didnt take off my pants...the momentum wasnt ther for it though..
i didnt say "we are not having sex tonight Im tired"
FORGOT
strawberry fields
she was battling her emotions with ASD,
I didnt manage it that well
good girl face bad girl manerisms
interupt her objjections verbally while physically escalting
like CJ's LR goodgirlface
________
we walked out and she hold my hand and I showed non needy sex frame...
she kissed me alot and I lead
we got a cab
in the cab she had her head in my lap and kissed my hand and kept scratching me like a cat and i would go half way on a kiss and she go for it..
she would caress me
she felt emotional investement
we got off and I picked her up to splike her BT ..she said I was strong.
I had a driver AMOG me I hold my frame and acted cool until he left.
she hold my hadn and walked her to the station
and we stayed there talking ( same as previous LR and same stop LOL)
I also threw in about sex and how easy it is here in nyc..and asked her if she is jealous cause I get appraoched by women
she dhv that SNL is for bars and that she doesnt like to be pressured and that in europe women ask men to sleep with them...and over there appraoching or touching a woman is against the law..and she get appraoched by lesbian butch women.
and how europe the german man doesnt force women to asex so he cheats.
they fly out to other countries to fuck whores.
I DHV I guess they dont have a strong connection game and they have to do that.. I rather not waste my time and be honest.
she also said that she doesnt like to be pressured
and she said she liked saffron's hair pull routine.
and I showed vunerability which was to show I was cool and threw in that I dont know if we are going to see each other again and she said yes wehen we are both free we go dancing...she use her nails again and she pulled back on kissing.
I told her to call me when she is home....
she said yes and that she cant text me ( she spoke about her brother)
i looked up my phone and saw cuddle bunny textd me so i got home and called her and ran Im busy and tired
then as i hang up my date calls me up and calls me honey
I act cool and do the i will talk to you later...
---next day she calls at 11am and I call her back we talk a liittle but she doesnt understand my jokes by the phone.
she asked me what im doing later and I said work ( i wasnt sure what she meant)
I said I was going to subway to talk to her later
----
I spoke to my friend
sometimes it doesnt happen on the first night
and his advice was that you need to take her to another one
and sometimes it takes a couple of dates doesnt matter...
------------------
SHOOT Suggestions on the FR
and when I stood up for myself
she called me... while in miami.
I have to give credit to my new roomie cause his overall frame of being nonneedy yet persistent CANT BE TAUGHT AT A BOOTCAMP
you would need to live with a PUA or natural
So I owe him my streak...
its weiord cause I have several women emailing me and I might be booked for the week..
one the other hand Its a streak Im in
YOU NEED MONEY TO GAME!
not to pay gurus but to keep a rotation...
just ALWAYS MAKE HER PAY FOR SHIT
Ice cream pull is awesome CREDIT ADAM LYONS*
I have to also appraoch more
My game is semi direct with subcomunications basically comfort and tease then push pull and tease always frame as female male interaction.
when it stales to avoid awkward moments or friends zone is to escalate and pull away...I stole the "WOMAN" thing at the end to show dominance and leading.
sexual is just escalating but pulling back..avoid sexual needy and eveytime you always talk how you can fuck other people shows that you are at another level and not supplicating...
I never imagine I get women so emotionally invested in hours and love me for it.
actually chemistry...
FUCK NEXTING!
YOU NEXT In the beginning...even at that I kept gaming showing non neediness thats how I got this woman to a point to call me...
YOU PLOW UNTIL SHE LEAVES AND DOESNT RESPOND TO YOU
women are supposed to do that all aginst community belief...
Gorgeous and bitchy * as per MR M and braddok;s 9 and 10 game.
I basically had Doc strangelove call me and MMPUA A
major players from miami and experienced online gamers...
I have entropy's style of game and the guy MM instructor SAW and even PSYCH say that :
I have to be the loveable teddy bear
saffrom say dont be the nice guy ...be the awesome GUY!
FUCK MAN SAFFRON is just ahead of all this game.
as per Doc strangelove "act like the prize and high maintance women"
which fuckin worked.
Its weird cause ADAM preaches this nbeign the guy gay best friend but that fucks them....
On that note cant wait to see ADAM next week.
So all shit aside I have to write this up.
GROUNDHOG DAY DATE credit Doc Holliday and my "roomie dr"
she called me to meet up then called her to reassure the date and she called me up to meet later...
my phone game with her is not good so I had natural roomie game her for like 2 weeks spoke to her like 3 times until she called me...WEIRD!
she was abit demanding and I got scared...
she wanted to meet at the starbucks
I said ok... ( I stopped overthinking in game, thanks to dr roomie and entropy)
I text doc roomie and he said she was ready to go (he text me from california)
I show up LATE actually 30 minutes late ( against community belief)
and she was cold and I assume rapport and ran basic chit chat...
she talked and tried to lead.. I noticed I would lose her I would break rapport and tease or say something absord funny..push pull
she was engagged and I used social pressure to timebridge as per last LR
took a cab...go ther and didnt kiss or hug or nothing just winging it... she was just "venting"
I threw in Im sore and DHV kickboxing story this is also why she gave me a backrub later.threw in dhv story of funny knock me out story
AGAINST COMUNITY BELIEF as per roomie let her open up as per Sinn use sexual frames and understanding ..topo get her emotional invested.
she did all that work I just nodded as per adam lyons...
AT HIS POINT IT WAS CHAMELEON GAME... I related to her and building commonalites
light kino..almost minimal...
she is european very sexy and to me a fucking 10 and she knew it...she told me
the problem is she just broke up with a wealthy man older 20 years than her...
told me how her mother destroyed her previous marriage.
I used topo mini stack of insecure men and hi five after that
she has father issues but didnt tease her on insecurites..thats wehere community guiys arent calibrated.
thats why comfort is important before attraction and investement AFC adam
entropy as well but at a deeper connection
connection game is very strong very powerful...Im just trying to figure out how to turn it into obsession bu thats too much...women seem to open up and then nbehave like little girls..its weird.
they also dont like to be seen as objects of desire
they get creeped out or LMR ASD goes off and buyers remorse goes off and you are done...
IM trying to run SOLID GAME as per Sinn
you have solid game and pace her then you SNL or close
as per entropy SNL's depends on the girl in that monet not emotional but what she is looking for.
most SNL's is found in bars or clubs comfirmed by my date tonight
rare woman well traveled and very high class IMO
topic were as per doc holliday taught me
we arrived in wine bar and I acted like I knew the guys and she thought I was a regular.. ( social proof fake LOL)
lead her to where we sat..
at a point she was venting to much and I shared my stories and she lose attention amnd I interupt her pattern..
I would mirror her alot and I would show too much interest would touch a little and take away..I would accuse her of makign me like her and to stop trying to copy me or say things ...she tease back and I would act like a high maintance woman...
I dhv my patient story made by saffron
I also would try to get her to feed me but it seem too soon.
she was a wine expert adn drank 3 wine or 4 wine plus ate calimari appetizer
and seed the ice cream TB.had her agree within the venue..
and I kissed her and she said i was a good kisser ( YEAH I HAD PRACTICE LOL)
I pull back but she would like everytime I escalate and she would be subtle we cant kiss in public or someshit like that...(social intelligence shit test)
I blame her for it and ran the MM classic line I feel foolish blah blah
ran push pull
and did dhv stripper ex credit mystery
showed understanding what it is being with a 10...modified sinns snl course
beauty is common and Im looking for more than a pretty face
qualification what you go to going more than your looks :)
coma story she would ofcourse compliment and invest into it.
saffron's giver taker frame
she is musician so I talked about gifts and talents
how we are both driven
she asked for my BDAY IOI
she reward my compliance
I kissed her like 2 times in venue
ran SNL frames within conversation
nonjudgmental
discrete
no consequence
sex is normal
did topos stack of I have sisters female insider views are different sitautaion in society
she asked about books favorite books amnd I ran cosmo routine..laughed her ass off
did this to reinforced that she was falling in love and not BFF
IT was hard cause its DONT FUCK UP GAME
european arent used to too mushy or too much touching and she was dismissive...
so I definatley played different than other men.
I ran "I usually dont like like this but its rare I feel I can trust you and pinky swear..." reinforce that se wont judge me REINFORCING THE FRAMES BEFORE THE CLOSE!
( create a bubble natural bubble)
I would tease her as we left
amd she started spanking me cause I tease her asnd i do takeaways
she help to TB cause she noticed they were throwing us out so outside I was like she say " we are crazy and I spike her BT and said we are in a big city but its a small world" whtever she said she understood LOL bubble
she tongued me down
I told her right before the cab that I wanted her to be my sexy bunny
she called me her "jelly bean"
in the car she would say she was drunk I say I WANT ice cream
she didnt want to pay for ice cream and I used social pressure and asked her if she was a liar.
kept saying "Jelly Bean" and made her say bunny in russian and said it back to her
I did a show in front of the mexicans at the store
display of game
she paid for it INVESTEMENT she choose the ice cream and I reward her for having good taste and kissed her .. (NLP anchor)
she was wher Im I and I said i have to get ogin so I walk you out ... (ozzie rsd as per last LR)
she went up to the apt and i gave her the tour
and she took her shoes off LOVEDROP
did view TB and thus made it congryuent and fed her ice cream and got her on the BED and we made out...
I escalate but it was thin line...
she had a g string and I almost lost control
she had started spanking me and
she wanted to give me a backrub and I would kiss her after it escalating and did saffrons hairpull rouitine
she loved it and felt arrousal and I would stop and push pull and go into ice cream..
funny and joking
then she stood up and I ran natural woman pattern added "the sluts and whores"
made out with her and she was like I have to go ...
I knew where my limit was so I do a freeze out in the bathroom and texted my boys northern nights and doc strangelove.
she was sitting watching TV and I escalated again and she took it away...
_______________
mistake:she beat me at takeaways and I should have ran non needy frame of we should take it slow and I didnt take off my pants...the momentum wasnt ther for it though..
i didnt say "we are not having sex tonight Im tired"
FORGOT
strawberry fields
she was battling her emotions with ASD,
I didnt manage it that well
good girl face bad girl manerisms
interupt her objjections verbally while physically escalting
like CJ's LR goodgirlface
________
we walked out and she hold my hand and I showed non needy sex frame...
she kissed me alot and I lead
we got a cab
in the cab she had her head in my lap and kissed my hand and kept scratching me like a cat and i would go half way on a kiss and she go for it..
she would caress me
she felt emotional investement
we got off and I picked her up to splike her BT ..she said I was strong.
I had a driver AMOG me I hold my frame and acted cool until he left.
she hold my hadn and walked her to the station
and we stayed there talking ( same as previous LR and same stop LOL)
I also threw in about sex and how easy it is here in nyc..and asked her if she is jealous cause I get appraoched by women
she dhv that SNL is for bars and that she doesnt like to be pressured and that in europe women ask men to sleep with them...and over there appraoching or touching a woman is against the law..and she get appraoched by lesbian butch women.
and how europe the german man doesnt force women to asex so he cheats.
they fly out to other countries to fuck whores.
I DHV I guess they dont have a strong connection game and they have to do that.. I rather not waste my time and be honest.
she also said that she doesnt like to be pressured
and she said she liked saffron's hair pull routine.
and I showed vunerability which was to show I was cool and threw in that I dont know if we are going to see each other again and she said yes wehen we are both free we go dancing...she use her nails again and she pulled back on kissing.
I told her to call me when she is home....
she said yes and that she cant text me ( she spoke about her brother)
i looked up my phone and saw cuddle bunny textd me so i got home and called her and ran Im busy and tired
then as i hang up my date calls me up and calls me honey
I act cool and do the i will talk to you later...
---next day she calls at 11am and I call her back we talk a liittle but she doesnt understand my jokes by the phone.
she asked me what im doing later and I said work ( i wasnt sure what she meant)
I said I was going to subway to talk to her later
----
I spoke to my friend
sometimes it doesnt happen on the first night
and his advice was that you need to take her to another one
and sometimes it takes a couple of dates doesnt matter...
------------------
SHOOT Suggestions on the FR
fear of loss triggers old numbers to react Hbnjmusic
so I ve been slow track hbnj music teach my first ever internet date.. I didnt do a good job...so I ve been building comfort by text and got flaked 2 times..
unlike community bvelief I havent nexted her just to compensate for too much sexual escalation too soon.
the thing her is that i lept texting her and understood her soo Im AFC for her...
she text me and I text her that im leavcing NYC...I did this seeing my roomie did that to a chick and she was crazy texting him for him to sexual escalate..
its too not rush too much and be chill
so I went vunerable and deep comfort and said I genuinely liked her but I might NOT see her again which I stole from a tyler durden rsd audio and she said we are going to meet and she set it up for monday....
Im doing alot of push pull calibrating the compliments
Its fucking on but my other chick is pushing to meet up.? Frame control
unlike community bvelief I havent nexted her just to compensate for too much sexual escalation too soon.
the thing her is that i lept texting her and understood her soo Im AFC for her...
she text me and I text her that im leavcing NYC...I did this seeing my roomie did that to a chick and she was crazy texting him for him to sexual escalate..
its too not rush too much and be chill
so I went vunerable and deep comfort and said I genuinely liked her but I might NOT see her again which I stole from a tyler durden rsd audio and she said we are going to meet and she set it up for monday....
Im doing alot of push pull calibrating the compliments
Its fucking on but my other chick is pushing to meet up.? Frame control
probable date with vikchick
theres this chick that gave me a hard time online and i plowed
and she neged me with poem of glory a NLP poem..she said it was garbage.
so I matched her and mirror her with affirming what we are talking and she calls doesnt text which is good...
Im not sure she is hungarian
my roomie did phone game and she was put on slow track
she called me up to meet up for date
Im not sure about her...
then i did what non community guys do and is to confirm..if you dont comfrm you are lacking comunication skills and being effective..only is you know its super on you dont do this..so i avoid flakes by being responsible adult.
I text her that Im behind schedule and set date for later and she said where which is OK for being a first date... rommie says warm her up and take her to next level...she is foregn so she is cold not too cuddling type...
so this is a challenge...
Im be shit tested cause i havent done deep rapport.
and she neged me with poem of glory a NLP poem..she said it was garbage.
so I matched her and mirror her with affirming what we are talking and she calls doesnt text which is good...
Im not sure she is hungarian
my roomie did phone game and she was put on slow track
she called me up to meet up for date
Im not sure about her...
then i did what non community guys do and is to confirm..if you dont comfrm you are lacking comunication skills and being effective..only is you know its super on you dont do this..so i avoid flakes by being responsible adult.
I text her that Im behind schedule and set date for later and she said where which is OK for being a first date... rommie says warm her up and take her to next level...she is foregn so she is cold not too cuddling type...
so this is a challenge...
Im be shit tested cause i havent done deep rapport.
S&M cuddle bunny manegment
She is asking to be my GF but It for validation purposes...
She gets emotional with me but I pull back
I have to follow sinns rule of neediness
The BEST thing is that we agree on seeing each other during the week
I like adams thought on dont invest let her invest more.
I kind of invested a little cause she wants validation
I have to text less and do less.
Im turning tino tto nice guy..I have to be a gentlemen but an asshole.
she wanbts to see me 2 times a week
-S
She gets emotional with me but I pull back
I have to follow sinns rule of neediness
The BEST thing is that we agree on seeing each other during the week
I like adams thought on dont invest let her invest more.
I kind of invested a little cause she wants validation
I have to text less and do less.
Im turning tino tto nice guy..I have to be a gentlemen but an asshole.
she wanbts to see me 2 times a week
-S
Saturday, June 6, 2009
next step things to do and want list
Ok this is explicit and Im going to say it :
since Im getting this girl into my rotation
YES
Im going to build a rotation
thats the best part of comfort connection game that I have them invested emotionally that I control them least I do the better.
a bit of understanding and leading and not investing alot too soon to scare her off
or beeing too mushy with her
space and balance and making her miss you here is key
sinn's rule of neediness is applied her about talking about feelings.
Im be chill same guy she met just a bit aggressive sexually but not explicit.
Im still in the works Im not yet all the way reached to a perfect consistence.
Im kind of learning along the way but so far learning it solidifies the process.
I know why I fucked up and i know how to correct it..
not at a technical level but subconcious.
as pers MPUA A-from miami
Im putting up a LIST what I want to do with women sexually
fuck her hardocre
experiment with BDSM
learn to trigger arrousal
deal with submissive girls
not too hardcore as my friends noterh nights says
nina hartleys stuff and practice and build self esteem from that.
relationship management as well.
Hmmmm
I wrote about this happening last week..improved soo fast ..
I going to have to text some bitches to line them up for weekeday dates LOL
since Im getting this girl into my rotation
YES
Im going to build a rotation
thats the best part of comfort connection game that I have them invested emotionally that I control them least I do the better.
a bit of understanding and leading and not investing alot too soon to scare her off
or beeing too mushy with her
space and balance and making her miss you here is key
sinn's rule of neediness is applied her about talking about feelings.
Im be chill same guy she met just a bit aggressive sexually but not explicit.
Im still in the works Im not yet all the way reached to a perfect consistence.
Im kind of learning along the way but so far learning it solidifies the process.
I know why I fucked up and i know how to correct it..
not at a technical level but subconcious.
as pers MPUA A-from miami
Im putting up a LIST what I want to do with women sexually
fuck her hardocre
experiment with BDSM
learn to trigger arrousal
deal with submissive girls
not too hardcore as my friends noterh nights says
nina hartleys stuff and practice and build self esteem from that.
relationship management as well.
Hmmmm
I wrote about this happening last week..improved soo fast ..
I going to have to text some bitches to line them up for weekeday dates LOL
LR S & M cuddle bunny.she disarmed KFP but I learned alot
Guys My head hurts and Im sore as fuck
so Im write this up cause there are alot of stuff I implemented here that I read heard and been suggested in the past
Pardon my grammar skills.
I closed on thursday night on my date... :)
I talked with Entropy on the phone and as per my game kind of improving through the phases and moving forward and all the good stuff.
the revelation was seeing my roomie bring a girl over have her sit there and make her giggling and laughing and then pull her in his room to fuck and me beng part of the act I help in saying i want to watch tv and He pulled.
this guy is a natural doesnt over think things but we realte alot but he doesnt take women thing seriosuly as to a point of doing PUA community stuff.
but he pulls and has a strong frame
I noticed his interaction skills are awesome cause he works wiht kids he plays with them and he calls it the "art of distraction"
to say things funny or whatever and throw things in between while moving forward.
I guess plausible denialbilty and not talking about things explicitly.
he has patience with the women he interacts...
after the next day I had the LR I was up and we worked together in poperating room and I felt awesome and yet he still had some hot russian woman kiss his arms and he show subtle yet slick suaveness then later had another not so cute girl text him dirty things when he just told her in fornt of me that he was seeing a couple of girls and I saw him fuck her and he was intorducing me to her
but i noticed the act of handing over a woman makes her validate herself more work for you..she was crazy texting her..asdide of the other girls he is seeing.
anyways
how he closed infront of me
and me slow the process and as per my last post making her want it more
Is like dont overgame
or dont fuck it up by saying somethign stupid or relying on a line when its not the right timing to use it
I guess the word is "understanding"
if you act like you understand them and non needy and dont try to get with them or meet up before getting them invested then he will take the initiative when she is laughing or he spikes her BT.
HE DOESNT NEXT
he builds more comfort until he gets what he wants
he doesnt punish them he freezes out and texts them a day later and acts non needy
he usually gets texted from them and he responds to them ASAP
ALWAYS
If you dont he says you are cuttign yourself off
you make intiaive and forget all that other shit
if she says something then you tell yourslef I will work on that no worry maybe she is having a hard time and shit and if I insist it will piss her off
LR HB cuddle bunny
met up with her she gave me LMR right before the the date freakin out
and i complied to her not being an asshole but being compassionate.
this is something the community is missing when you connect with someone
I used compassion to make her feel better and I used is as fear of loss when she triggered personal; questions about me asking me for last name where i work etc etc
I felt my self esteem and felt used when I gave that to her..it isnt a big deal but I felt she took something from me, therefore I felt that feels to a woman when they get buyers remorse...its calibrating the ionteraction being nice and compassionate and yet funny and edgy
I also noticed when he goes emotional he stops there and doesnt physically escalate which causes her or even me cause Im modeling him.. to escalate physically..
he holds back and smiles.
BAck to the date
instantly was confusing me where she was and I called her and she didnt pick up i used as a verbal distraction to say somnething to tease her
I didnt follow community advice just went with what I was modeling my friend and advice in the past from saffron, entropy and
MPUA A from miami into effect.
ozzie fromn rsd has some good stuff but if you havent close it will comnfuse you but some lines worked and I wasnt thinking about sex but I knew it was going to happen
I didnt need it but it was going to happen
the zen like thinking in closing is that.
assume rapport and showed I had balls to do that right off
not alot of kino.
She kissed me kind of right off and I stopped and said too soon.
I take it way and stop. her BT actual BT she was like its hot here.lol.
I would talk and make her laugh and confuse her (I was kind of nervous)
we took a cab to the wine bar
i kissed her there and did takeaway sinn* thats all you get
she kept doing sedxual advances to test me i guess and I said i need more comfort and trust sinn*
took her to wine bar lead and I thought that zen thinking.
I didnt kiss her there.
(different from what I was doing ) the intereaction was subtle sexually but it was like she initate it and I would just look at her and smile.( another thing we talked about Id overescalate or run the train)
the interaction at the wine bar was just like improv and the excersize i learned from Entropy at the bootcamp and his connection game and being intersting without boring her.
I ran RSD verbal attraction: shifting sands and No! in the middle of convo to break her state and get her to work more for my appraoval and my favorite and risky "you are my new bunny ..yeah my new cuddle bunny...Wait Its too fast .. or
I take that back" this calibrates her feeling good and when you compliment and its too much then you pull back by doing this instead of just releasing with dorkk or brat cause its too repetitive...breathrough comfort what i read kind of but it was more sexual frames and Entropys deep comfort with tease.
Emotional investment!
I paid for the drink and one mini burger slicers we shared or whatever
(against community belief not to eat but running entropys model of game a bite wasnt going to hurt and itwas a snack and transition to dessert and I showed sharing food is awesome important , creating a bubble)
I made her cut the 3rd in half to share it ..(male to female dynamic)
I told her she had to pay for dessert
she said OK
we were walking but I didnt want to kill momentum so I had initally timebridged in the beginning about apt and the view of other buildings its nice to watch.
and my late night eating habit of ice cream.
I FELT THIS WAS CRUCIAL CAUSE IT WAS CONGRUENT WITH WHO I WAS
and IT WAS NON SEXUAL
we took a cab to the corner store and she was were we are going
i said "get ice cream you promised wait dont tell me you are a liar cause if you are then Its OVER!" semi serious way but putting social pressure
she paid for the ice cream
GOT HER INVESTED THEREFORE
also its her job not to feel slutty and play hard to get when you escalate just dont aggressively do it its push pull and attraction again to build sexual tension.
"I lets eat this here show you wher I live and I will walk you to you train station cause I have to get up early tomorrow."
and she said "NO I dont do that" and I said
"Im asking you to share icecream and you are out the door"
used semi social pressure to get her ASD from kicking in and laugh at what she said..
"dont get any ideas ok " cocky funny to reduce the ASD In revesing the roles
we got up there no huggin no kissing
act cool like friends
and the "roomie" was watching laker game so ...he used that excuse the other day so he could pull his girl in his room...
so I said my friend is watching the game and I dont want you to bother him
(LEADERSHIP in a jokingly way)
want to show you the view I was talking to you about when we spoke on the phone ..she got in my room and I sat on the bed and I told her to take of her shoes and she gave me objections of she os sweaty and I said tmy bed is sacred take them off ( this objection like cultures or whatever, i made it up)asper lovedrops theory of women tkes her shoes off she can fuck you
had her on the bed turned off the lights to see the view (doublebind intention)kissed her and she stopped.
lights came on Freeze out battle
whatever then no sexual touching just taking turns feeding each other on pint of ice cream with the spoons
(male female dynamic- latin thing i dont know)
she kept saying
"I cant believe Im doing this" and I would kiss her everytime she said that and she want it more I stop and act like the typical hard to get girl would freeze out with eating ice cream and telling her ozzie RSD line
"there is no sex tonight Im tired "
she would say I never said anything about sex, I dont do that ..
then at one point it way hot I had her on top of me kissing
Locking in on the bed
I got that from saffron LR in las vegas Saffrom got her on top of him for the photo.
Saffron fucking sex god pua
I couldnt touch her then I go for the neck and did saffromns hair pull routine and I went for the tits and she stop I stop too and agree
back and forth
went as far as licking tits a pierced one and she wouldnt let me touch her down there and she had her clothes on but
she was sweaty BT sexual tension
I took off my pants tried EL Topo Kung fu penis from what
I was taught by doc holiday waay back
(I had an idea but never tried it since I had read the hype and im just playing SOLID and experimented with it )
and she tottally disarmed KFP
and said "You do that to yourself, jerk yourself off "
she did a fucking takeaway
and If I insisted I knew it was needy and it was going to be over.
I stopped and said you are right,
I went AFC on purpose to fuck with her head
first I got a yes ladder
we connected deep and fast
Its rare that I get to enjoy feeling comnfortable like ive known them
while I did badboy's kiss close but without the kiss
which made it solid that we were having a moment.
then
pulled a bomb out which shows that I dont want sex
"lets take thing slow and if we like each other later on then maybe we will get together some other time"
this instilled fear of loss
I got up and pulled my pants. she said "what are you doing"
but right before I had my hands grabbing her ass and i knew she was arroused. and she said
"no dont stop!"
Ohh shit!
I knew I had something here I never ever imagine would happen
since I did deep confort established and assumed rapport
we kissed again and kept escalating on the tits and I stopped
she opened up and said she's been hurt and could fuck other people etc etc .I went into nonjudgmental frame but not sexual explicit. I did kind of on the phone with her but ran it again realting to what she said.
and we were talking about tats and showed me her tat of S&M and that she like to be submissive slaped and tied up...
WOW!
I kissed her after that and told her that I think thats was cool and Im not going to judge her for it,,,and that it turned me on to pleasure her .
after that we fucked HARDCORE
( half viagra and a red bull)she says she came 3 times
and left her at train station to brokylnn at 3am...
the problem is I didnt define the relationship cause I was in soo deep and she told me she wanted a BF. I said that lets see where this goes...
she was on top of me during the convo I was locked in the bed .lol.
I met her 2 days ago breifly and talked on the phone ran deep comfort but very funny and I ended the convo I saw her up 8:45 and 10 were havng this convo.
i used "are you just saying that to make me feel good or are you being yourself"
"stop being cool"
thouse work nice when you compliment for her qualifying herself...it is better than me too
closed her and the ice cream melted....
I told her I wanted to come on her ass
I did do some freeaky stuff and pulled her hair and slaped her ass
It was good letting myself go like that cause I remeber last time i slapped a girls ass like that she got upset and Im a big guy...
i used less routines and more coonection and leading frame..
next day I sent her:
I hope you are having a good morning, Im sore thanks to you ;)
her any regrets
none at all loved it
was i good
yes you were amazing I wasnt that good
on the debrief she said she knew we were going to have sex when we were in the cab to buy ice cream and she knew she liked me after we met in the cab and kiss.
-sandros
next time I will use the door pattern
so Im write this up cause there are alot of stuff I implemented here that I read heard and been suggested in the past
Pardon my grammar skills.
I closed on thursday night on my date... :)
I talked with Entropy on the phone and as per my game kind of improving through the phases and moving forward and all the good stuff.
the revelation was seeing my roomie bring a girl over have her sit there and make her giggling and laughing and then pull her in his room to fuck and me beng part of the act I help in saying i want to watch tv and He pulled.
this guy is a natural doesnt over think things but we realte alot but he doesnt take women thing seriosuly as to a point of doing PUA community stuff.
but he pulls and has a strong frame
I noticed his interaction skills are awesome cause he works wiht kids he plays with them and he calls it the "art of distraction"
to say things funny or whatever and throw things in between while moving forward.
I guess plausible denialbilty and not talking about things explicitly.
he has patience with the women he interacts...
after the next day I had the LR I was up and we worked together in poperating room and I felt awesome and yet he still had some hot russian woman kiss his arms and he show subtle yet slick suaveness then later had another not so cute girl text him dirty things when he just told her in fornt of me that he was seeing a couple of girls and I saw him fuck her and he was intorducing me to her
but i noticed the act of handing over a woman makes her validate herself more work for you..she was crazy texting her..asdide of the other girls he is seeing.
anyways
how he closed infront of me
and me slow the process and as per my last post making her want it more
Is like dont overgame
or dont fuck it up by saying somethign stupid or relying on a line when its not the right timing to use it
I guess the word is "understanding"
if you act like you understand them and non needy and dont try to get with them or meet up before getting them invested then he will take the initiative when she is laughing or he spikes her BT.
HE DOESNT NEXT
he builds more comfort until he gets what he wants
he doesnt punish them he freezes out and texts them a day later and acts non needy
he usually gets texted from them and he responds to them ASAP
ALWAYS
If you dont he says you are cuttign yourself off
you make intiaive and forget all that other shit
if she says something then you tell yourslef I will work on that no worry maybe she is having a hard time and shit and if I insist it will piss her off
LR HB cuddle bunny
met up with her she gave me LMR right before the the date freakin out
and i complied to her not being an asshole but being compassionate.
this is something the community is missing when you connect with someone
I used compassion to make her feel better and I used is as fear of loss when she triggered personal; questions about me asking me for last name where i work etc etc
I felt my self esteem and felt used when I gave that to her..it isnt a big deal but I felt she took something from me, therefore I felt that feels to a woman when they get buyers remorse...its calibrating the ionteraction being nice and compassionate and yet funny and edgy
I also noticed when he goes emotional he stops there and doesnt physically escalate which causes her or even me cause Im modeling him.. to escalate physically..
he holds back and smiles.
BAck to the date
instantly was confusing me where she was and I called her and she didnt pick up i used as a verbal distraction to say somnething to tease her
I didnt follow community advice just went with what I was modeling my friend and advice in the past from saffron, entropy and
MPUA A from miami into effect.
ozzie fromn rsd has some good stuff but if you havent close it will comnfuse you but some lines worked and I wasnt thinking about sex but I knew it was going to happen
I didnt need it but it was going to happen
the zen like thinking in closing is that.
assume rapport and showed I had balls to do that right off
not alot of kino.
She kissed me kind of right off and I stopped and said too soon.
I take it way and stop. her BT actual BT she was like its hot here.lol.
I would talk and make her laugh and confuse her (I was kind of nervous)
we took a cab to the wine bar
i kissed her there and did takeaway sinn* thats all you get
she kept doing sedxual advances to test me i guess and I said i need more comfort and trust sinn*
took her to wine bar lead and I thought that zen thinking.
I didnt kiss her there.
(different from what I was doing ) the intereaction was subtle sexually but it was like she initate it and I would just look at her and smile.( another thing we talked about Id overescalate or run the train)
the interaction at the wine bar was just like improv and the excersize i learned from Entropy at the bootcamp and his connection game and being intersting without boring her.
I ran RSD verbal attraction: shifting sands and No! in the middle of convo to break her state and get her to work more for my appraoval and my favorite and risky "you are my new bunny ..yeah my new cuddle bunny...Wait Its too fast .. or
I take that back" this calibrates her feeling good and when you compliment and its too much then you pull back by doing this instead of just releasing with dorkk or brat cause its too repetitive...breathrough comfort what i read kind of but it was more sexual frames and Entropys deep comfort with tease.
Emotional investment!
I paid for the drink and one mini burger slicers we shared or whatever
(against community belief not to eat but running entropys model of game a bite wasnt going to hurt and itwas a snack and transition to dessert and I showed sharing food is awesome important , creating a bubble)
I made her cut the 3rd in half to share it ..(male to female dynamic)
I told her she had to pay for dessert
she said OK
we were walking but I didnt want to kill momentum so I had initally timebridged in the beginning about apt and the view of other buildings its nice to watch.
and my late night eating habit of ice cream.
I FELT THIS WAS CRUCIAL CAUSE IT WAS CONGRUENT WITH WHO I WAS
and IT WAS NON SEXUAL
we took a cab to the corner store and she was were we are going
i said "get ice cream you promised wait dont tell me you are a liar cause if you are then Its OVER!" semi serious way but putting social pressure
she paid for the ice cream
GOT HER INVESTED THEREFORE
also its her job not to feel slutty and play hard to get when you escalate just dont aggressively do it its push pull and attraction again to build sexual tension.
"I lets eat this here show you wher I live and I will walk you to you train station cause I have to get up early tomorrow."
and she said "NO I dont do that" and I said
"Im asking you to share icecream and you are out the door"
used semi social pressure to get her ASD from kicking in and laugh at what she said..
"dont get any ideas ok " cocky funny to reduce the ASD In revesing the roles
we got up there no huggin no kissing
act cool like friends
and the "roomie" was watching laker game so ...he used that excuse the other day so he could pull his girl in his room...
so I said my friend is watching the game and I dont want you to bother him
(LEADERSHIP in a jokingly way)
want to show you the view I was talking to you about when we spoke on the phone ..she got in my room and I sat on the bed and I told her to take of her shoes and she gave me objections of she os sweaty and I said tmy bed is sacred take them off ( this objection like cultures or whatever, i made it up)asper lovedrops theory of women tkes her shoes off she can fuck you
had her on the bed turned off the lights to see the view (doublebind intention)kissed her and she stopped.
lights came on Freeze out battle
whatever then no sexual touching just taking turns feeding each other on pint of ice cream with the spoons
(male female dynamic- latin thing i dont know)
she kept saying
"I cant believe Im doing this" and I would kiss her everytime she said that and she want it more I stop and act like the typical hard to get girl would freeze out with eating ice cream and telling her ozzie RSD line
"there is no sex tonight Im tired "
she would say I never said anything about sex, I dont do that ..
then at one point it way hot I had her on top of me kissing
Locking in on the bed
I got that from saffron LR in las vegas Saffrom got her on top of him for the photo.
Saffron fucking sex god pua
I couldnt touch her then I go for the neck and did saffromns hair pull routine and I went for the tits and she stop I stop too and agree
back and forth
went as far as licking tits a pierced one and she wouldnt let me touch her down there and she had her clothes on but
she was sweaty BT sexual tension
I took off my pants tried EL Topo Kung fu penis from what
I was taught by doc holiday waay back
(I had an idea but never tried it since I had read the hype and im just playing SOLID and experimented with it )
and she tottally disarmed KFP
and said "You do that to yourself, jerk yourself off "
she did a fucking takeaway
and If I insisted I knew it was needy and it was going to be over.
I stopped and said you are right,
I went AFC on purpose to fuck with her head
first I got a yes ladder
we connected deep and fast
Its rare that I get to enjoy feeling comnfortable like ive known them
while I did badboy's kiss close but without the kiss
which made it solid that we were having a moment.
then
pulled a bomb out which shows that I dont want sex
"lets take thing slow and if we like each other later on then maybe we will get together some other time"
this instilled fear of loss
I got up and pulled my pants. she said "what are you doing"
but right before I had my hands grabbing her ass and i knew she was arroused. and she said
"no dont stop!"
Ohh shit!
I knew I had something here I never ever imagine would happen
since I did deep confort established and assumed rapport
we kissed again and kept escalating on the tits and I stopped
she opened up and said she's been hurt and could fuck other people etc etc .I went into nonjudgmental frame but not sexual explicit. I did kind of on the phone with her but ran it again realting to what she said.
and we were talking about tats and showed me her tat of S&M and that she like to be submissive slaped and tied up...
WOW!
I kissed her after that and told her that I think thats was cool and Im not going to judge her for it,,,and that it turned me on to pleasure her .
after that we fucked HARDCORE
( half viagra and a red bull)she says she came 3 times
and left her at train station to brokylnn at 3am...
the problem is I didnt define the relationship cause I was in soo deep and she told me she wanted a BF. I said that lets see where this goes...
she was on top of me during the convo I was locked in the bed .lol.
I met her 2 days ago breifly and talked on the phone ran deep comfort but very funny and I ended the convo I saw her up 8:45 and 10 were havng this convo.
i used "are you just saying that to make me feel good or are you being yourself"
"stop being cool"
thouse work nice when you compliment for her qualifying herself...it is better than me too
closed her and the ice cream melted....
I told her I wanted to come on her ass
I did do some freeaky stuff and pulled her hair and slaped her ass
It was good letting myself go like that cause I remeber last time i slapped a girls ass like that she got upset and Im a big guy...
i used less routines and more coonection and leading frame..
next day I sent her:
I hope you are having a good morning, Im sore thanks to you ;)
her any regrets
none at all loved it
was i good
yes you were amazing I wasnt that good
on the debrief she said she knew we were going to have sex when we were in the cab to buy ice cream and she knew she liked me after we met in the cab and kiss.
-sandros
next time I will use the door pattern
Thursday, June 4, 2009
FR: HB cuddle bunny
Im posting this cause Im using entropys deep comfort...
Its my new style of game.
saffrom like I said is AWESOME
high attraction and escalates fast... I usually do that in night game but then have no control over it when it comes to closing I come on too strong...
like my friend Beau says you have to pull back.
that being said i ran online and did 2 messages and I noticed its about momentum...
like in what I read somewhere i think braddocks text game everything you do should be geared towards close nothing vague everything...
opner you are cute dork
response dork who are you calling dork?!
You are soo feisty...You should stop that cause.. Im starting to like it ; )
Im S
I live in the in the city
I knew you wher going to b a truoblemaker sweetie ; )
you are probably from Boston ?!?!
-S
I'm so not a troublemaker.... I'm just not taking any crap from the opposite sex any longer
As far as being from Boston... UH... no Dear, I'm from Brooklyn and my name is Krista. Nice to meet you ... and, what's with the name "rockstar dentist"???
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Thank you dear ...
say it aint so....
Krista... thats beautiful name .
YES! rghjkt !!!
AS a kid I always wanted to be artistic and creative with something that would involve helping people...
BooM! thats me...
I have an intuition about you..its like you can be aggressive yet so sweet like honey...
I bet you love to cuddle!
do you?
-S
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Sweet like honey, huh? Yes, I can be and often am...until I have to act otherwise
Hmmm...well, I will give you the creative part....as for helping people... are you a REAL dentist??
Oops... yes, I like to cuddle
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I told her abou tBS messages and she text me...
making her text you put the ball in her court and convinces her that you are vunerable and real...
I use objections that I hope you arent creepy weirdo and stalker
reverse frame..
samplpe :
sdfghjk ...this sounds so fkin awesome ..stop being cool OK! ....
Im starting to like you
what I love most in the whole world is a woman that knows how to take care of her man , loves to cuddle (!)and kiss...
and ice cream : )
We are both responsible adults so Im going to be straight forward and honest with you...
All of this leads me to believe we should have a drink or meet
up. which i normally only say after like weeks or so of BS emails.
I do kind of feel vunerable cause you might reject me but i guess its a risk im going to take if you are this awesomely cool girl..cause i want to get to know you.
I hope you are the girl you say you are and not some creepy weirdo stalker chick.lol
so shoot me a text later and lets see where it goes ok.
----
so I ran 2 meassages and she resisted and understood her and I noticed aotherthign when they resist you have to understand and sexual frame credit Sinn.
she text me and I was at housotn at a sopcial; agthering and I got warned up by talking and interacting then at night to talk on the phone she aske for me to call her she opened opend up and i ran entropys chemistry game..I use the "we are past the BS " and i sie 2 cold reads and ran conversation and deep relationship past and who I am and objections with I dont usually do this... I can tbelieve Im telling you this and the thing is that she was turned on by it .. I wanted to meet up but I had to contain myslef. plus
today I had her text me alot which I think NOT good..but she was concerned who she was going to meet safety reasons which she asked me for me last name and wher I work and other stuff..when she did that i felt used
I felt low self esteem like what a woman must feel when i man just wants her and says thank you..that sense of being used...
but I fought that my inner game never got me laid and used it to work towards a goal...its weird but its like a self defense mechaniasm...
and I used it to reverse the frame and make her work for it and then I was going to flake on her and she said NO! that she wants to meet with me
the i ask vthat if she is a good kisser which was a risk of qualification which is already bordeline cause she responde di never gotten a compliant
after that it just left it
the new rule of closing
MAKE HER WANT IT MORE !
reverse the frame what a woman does to a guy that wants it more she resists and then gives in...
thats my new experiment as per saffron and sinn advice of making her want it more.
Entropy mentioned that I have to sexual y arouse her and always pull back.
Its like attraction all over again in a way...
OK lets see how it goes...
you lead, leading is easy but guys close too fast rush into horny frat boy which has just destroyed me...
So when you have her investing and texting and make her miss you ...
you run solid game
and I arranged for the meet up .
meet at the city then subway to here..wine bar and plausible denaibilty to the apt then close ....
I figure this time I will not overescalate like i did jumping on top of her like the others
I made out with the others like 4 times. i will just do it once and touch and takeaway
..but make her do it.
Im tell her view to the apt and Im tired no sex tonight and i want to cuddle since the theme will be to cuddle and that way she will escalate...
I will run
Jugglers GF test
cosmos routine
break rapport with good girl face bad girl manerisms
heart melters
SOMEONE CHEER ME ON!
I smell LR
PS: I had attorneyfl text em she has a cavity south of the border that need to be checked...too bad she lives far but all this sexual texts Im getting from them is awesome but I must resist being the frat horny guy....
Its my new style of game.
saffrom like I said is AWESOME
high attraction and escalates fast... I usually do that in night game but then have no control over it when it comes to closing I come on too strong...
like my friend Beau says you have to pull back.
that being said i ran online and did 2 messages and I noticed its about momentum...
like in what I read somewhere i think braddocks text game everything you do should be geared towards close nothing vague everything...
opner you are cute dork
response dork who are you calling dork?!
You are soo feisty...You should stop that cause.. Im starting to like it ; )
Im S
I live in the in the city
I knew you wher going to b a truoblemaker sweetie ; )
you are probably from Boston ?!?!
-S
I'm so not a troublemaker.... I'm just not taking any crap from the opposite sex any longer
As far as being from Boston... UH... no Dear, I'm from Brooklyn and my name is Krista. Nice to meet you ... and, what's with the name "rockstar dentist"???
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Thank you dear ...
say it aint so....
Krista... thats beautiful name .
YES! rghjkt !!!
AS a kid I always wanted to be artistic and creative with something that would involve helping people...
BooM! thats me...
I have an intuition about you..its like you can be aggressive yet so sweet like honey...
I bet you love to cuddle!
do you?
-S
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Sweet like honey, huh? Yes, I can be and often am...until I have to act otherwise
Hmmm...well, I will give you the creative part....as for helping people... are you a REAL dentist??
Oops... yes, I like to cuddle
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I told her abou tBS messages and she text me...
making her text you put the ball in her court and convinces her that you are vunerable and real...
I use objections that I hope you arent creepy weirdo and stalker
reverse frame..
samplpe :
sdfghjk ...this sounds so fkin awesome ..stop being cool OK! ....
Im starting to like you
what I love most in the whole world is a woman that knows how to take care of her man , loves to cuddle (!)and kiss...
and ice cream : )
We are both responsible adults so Im going to be straight forward and honest with you...
All of this leads me to believe we should have a drink or meet
up. which i normally only say after like weeks or so of BS emails.
I do kind of feel vunerable cause you might reject me but i guess its a risk im going to take if you are this awesomely cool girl..cause i want to get to know you.
I hope you are the girl you say you are and not some creepy weirdo stalker chick.lol
so shoot me a text later and lets see where it goes ok.
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so I ran 2 meassages and she resisted and understood her and I noticed aotherthign when they resist you have to understand and sexual frame credit Sinn.
she text me and I was at housotn at a sopcial; agthering and I got warned up by talking and interacting then at night to talk on the phone she aske for me to call her she opened opend up and i ran entropys chemistry game..I use the "we are past the BS " and i sie 2 cold reads and ran conversation and deep relationship past and who I am and objections with I dont usually do this... I can tbelieve Im telling you this and the thing is that she was turned on by it .. I wanted to meet up but I had to contain myslef. plus
today I had her text me alot which I think NOT good..but she was concerned who she was going to meet safety reasons which she asked me for me last name and wher I work and other stuff..when she did that i felt used
I felt low self esteem like what a woman must feel when i man just wants her and says thank you..that sense of being used...
but I fought that my inner game never got me laid and used it to work towards a goal...its weird but its like a self defense mechaniasm...
and I used it to reverse the frame and make her work for it and then I was going to flake on her and she said NO! that she wants to meet with me
the i ask vthat if she is a good kisser which was a risk of qualification which is already bordeline cause she responde di never gotten a compliant
after that it just left it
the new rule of closing
MAKE HER WANT IT MORE !
reverse the frame what a woman does to a guy that wants it more she resists and then gives in...
thats my new experiment as per saffron and sinn advice of making her want it more.
Entropy mentioned that I have to sexual y arouse her and always pull back.
Its like attraction all over again in a way...
OK lets see how it goes...
you lead, leading is easy but guys close too fast rush into horny frat boy which has just destroyed me...
So when you have her investing and texting and make her miss you ...
you run solid game
and I arranged for the meet up .
meet at the city then subway to here..wine bar and plausible denaibilty to the apt then close ....
I figure this time I will not overescalate like i did jumping on top of her like the others
I made out with the others like 4 times. i will just do it once and touch and takeaway
..but make her do it.
Im tell her view to the apt and Im tired no sex tonight and i want to cuddle since the theme will be to cuddle and that way she will escalate...
I will run
Jugglers GF test
cosmos routine
break rapport with good girl face bad girl manerisms
heart melters
SOMEONE CHEER ME ON!
I smell LR
PS: I had attorneyfl text em she has a cavity south of the border that need to be checked...too bad she lives far but all this sexual texts Im getting from them is awesome but I must resist being the frat horny guy....
Tuesday, June 2, 2009
text interactions with HBmel LI
This is a part of how I had
to work to get a girl and went sexual and last part she was talking about jerking me off and pttuing my cock in her mouthand then in her pussy
5/28/2009 9:28am
Hey its HBmelLI
me: hey whats up mel
her: NM u
me: send me a pic of you
her :when I get back home
her :Im just put woth my daughter
her I just sent you 2 pics for you
her : thank you You are very cute by the way
her : work
her :Ru busy this weeekend
her :AT an office
her :OK
her :Me2
her :UGh boring long day what are you doing
her :what are you cooking
Her :Im not picky
her :Liquor
her malibu day breeze scre driver
her:nice I tried calling you
we had basic chit chat convo and time bridge d probable her meeting up saturday
after convo
her : you sound sexy
her : hell yeah
her Aw you are welcome sweet dreams
next day
her:Good morning
911am her ; Thank you hope you have a good day and hope talk soon.
4:45pm her: hows your day
8;30pm her : hey sexy
8:43 pm her just got off work
8:47pm her : I got to se how much money I have first
her LOL
her I dont work tomorrow its the weekend
Ok where
dont know how to get there
I will get lost in the subway by myself
Yea let me know 2morrow
OK U are going to bed now?
can i call you in a few
We spoke for a while.... basic comfort and was going to do phone sex but she was with daughter
next day was the day for the date....
I was resisting to call her but my friend said
NO ! YOU MAKE THE INITATIVE TEXT HER
so I sent a text to see if we were still on and she text back:
her : I cant hang tonight got a family emergency im in NJ
her: I will text you when i get home
her :Hey sexy omg Im freaked out
her: I just saw a scary movie
her: drag me to hel
her : Yeah waht are you up to are you in the city
her: Just asking I would of came out if u were closer
me: too bad..I would have loved to seen you
her: Me 2
SUNDAY
her : Its OK sory I didnt mean to call that late
her:Aw yeah im just shoping my mom in ac and dad wokring all day so I wasnt sitn home
her:Boring
her:I got a new bathig suit to wear
her: black with pink flower
her: soon
me: you are such a tease
her: no
me: ewhat are you wearing now
her:capris and tank top going in the shower soon...
She calls and says that she is traveling soon for next two weekends and set up for probable date on weekday.this was on sunday.
tuesday I text: Im still not sure about you I have to give you a cool girl test or something
her :Yes
I go into Jugglers GF test
she responds warm bath
strawberries and whip cream
kisses on the neck
she texts:
LOL sorry I havent texted you I was busy
me: I have to go to work.why you always make it hard
her:sorry
me: Its all hard now , Im wondering what you would do with it
her: I would start jerkin you iff then put it in my mouth and start sucking it then put it in my pussy
me: I woould bend you over on the table right there and get down to businees
her: I Nice I would love that
me:send me a pic of your pussy
her: Later when I get home
me:K
didnt here from her so text her later to calibrate non sexual
her: food shoping
her: Nah Im feeling sick my ear is in really bad pain
her:LOL ok
I fell asleep and didnt call her but sent her a text...
my friend said to stay chill and back off since she is with a daughter and has ear pain she will get annoyed
wednesday : hows that ear
her : it hurts
me: did you go to the doctor
her: dont have insurance
me: isnt there a free clinic
her: Im look it up
me: is there anything i can do
her: no not now thank you
My friend again says if she is sick and I send a message about a pic then i get her in a bad mood their emnotions are strong they know they are smart.
So this one is on hold I wondering how to post the pics she sent me...
I sent her a text that i was coming to her neck of the woods and I wonde hwta it would be like
she said she wont be there
I said OK
she sent back with Im going away for weekend
I said : Have fun,I'll talk to you later
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according to other guys this set is blown
the best thing is too build prizing and pull back and make her come to me.
after she flaked on me I showed lower value and I lost value in her eyes
text is text and words are words and actions speak louder than words
to work to get a girl and went sexual and last part she was talking about jerking me off and pttuing my cock in her mouthand then in her pussy
5/28/2009 9:28am
Hey its HBmelLI
me: hey whats up mel
her: NM u
me: send me a pic of you
her :when I get back home
her :Im just put woth my daughter
her I just sent you 2 pics for you
her : thank you You are very cute by the way
her : work
her :Ru busy this weeekend
her :AT an office
her :OK
her :Me2
her :UGh boring long day what are you doing
her :what are you cooking
Her :Im not picky
her :Liquor
her malibu day breeze scre driver
her:nice I tried calling you
we had basic chit chat convo and time bridge d probable her meeting up saturday
after convo
her : you sound sexy
her : hell yeah
her Aw you are welcome sweet dreams
next day
her:Good morning
911am her ; Thank you hope you have a good day and hope talk soon.
4:45pm her: hows your day
8;30pm her : hey sexy
8:43 pm her just got off work
8:47pm her : I got to se how much money I have first
her LOL
her I dont work tomorrow its the weekend
Ok where
dont know how to get there
I will get lost in the subway by myself
Yea let me know 2morrow
OK U are going to bed now?
can i call you in a few
We spoke for a while.... basic comfort and was going to do phone sex but she was with daughter
next day was the day for the date....
I was resisting to call her but my friend said
NO ! YOU MAKE THE INITATIVE TEXT HER
so I sent a text to see if we were still on and she text back:
her : I cant hang tonight got a family emergency im in NJ
her: I will text you when i get home
her :Hey sexy omg Im freaked out
her: I just saw a scary movie
her: drag me to hel
her : Yeah waht are you up to are you in the city
her: Just asking I would of came out if u were closer
me: too bad..I would have loved to seen you
her: Me 2
SUNDAY
her : Its OK sory I didnt mean to call that late
her:Aw yeah im just shoping my mom in ac and dad wokring all day so I wasnt sitn home
her:Boring
her:I got a new bathig suit to wear
her: black with pink flower
her: soon
me: you are such a tease
her: no
me: ewhat are you wearing now
her:capris and tank top going in the shower soon...
She calls and says that she is traveling soon for next two weekends and set up for probable date on weekday.this was on sunday.
tuesday I text: Im still not sure about you I have to give you a cool girl test or something
her :Yes
I go into Jugglers GF test
she responds warm bath
strawberries and whip cream
kisses on the neck
she texts:
LOL sorry I havent texted you I was busy
me: I have to go to work.why you always make it hard
her:sorry
me: Its all hard now , Im wondering what you would do with it
her: I would start jerkin you iff then put it in my mouth and start sucking it then put it in my pussy
me: I woould bend you over on the table right there and get down to businees
her: I Nice I would love that
me:send me a pic of your pussy
her: Later when I get home
me:K
didnt here from her so text her later to calibrate non sexual
her: food shoping
her: Nah Im feeling sick my ear is in really bad pain
her:LOL ok
I fell asleep and didnt call her but sent her a text...
my friend said to stay chill and back off since she is with a daughter and has ear pain she will get annoyed
wednesday : hows that ear
her : it hurts
me: did you go to the doctor
her: dont have insurance
me: isnt there a free clinic
her: Im look it up
me: is there anything i can do
her: no not now thank you
My friend again says if she is sick and I send a message about a pic then i get her in a bad mood their emnotions are strong they know they are smart.
So this one is on hold I wondering how to post the pics she sent me...
I sent her a text that i was coming to her neck of the woods and I wonde hwta it would be like
she said she wont be there
I said OK
she sent back with Im going away for weekend
I said : Have fun,I'll talk to you later
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according to other guys this set is blown
the best thing is too build prizing and pull back and make her come to me.
after she flaked on me I showed lower value and I lost value in her eyes
text is text and words are words and actions speak louder than words
Monday, June 1, 2009
online game quickie
My profile got deleted and thisi si what I use; Its from Jeffy RSD:
I'm very romantic and genuine yet a total a****** .
I have a positive outlook on life
Love tender moments and little cats.
I want to meet people who laugh at my jokes and
High self-esteem types who don't take things too seriously.
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breaking rapport spiking emotions opener:
I like your pic but too bad its photoshopped
I wonder whats behind the pretty face? or I cant tell if you are sexy
her :what photoshop? I cropped the picture cause it was too big. But thats it. Thats what my big irish face looks like up close. Scary huh???
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me: you are soo feisty Im starting to like it stop being cool You are soo feisty...You should stop that cause.. Im starting to like it ; )
Im Sandro
I live in the in the city
I knew you wher going to b a truoblemaker sweetie ; )
you are probably from Boston ?!?!
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HER : should be from Boston. Part of the Irish Mob.
But nope. Im was born and raised in upstate NY...now im chillin in Long Island. Not an Irish friendly zone. lol
ME:Cool what you wna to be when you were seven and dont say irish mob princess
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her: All jokes aside i wanted to be a nurse. And looky-looky im a nurse. Born to save lives. Just with the added twist of humor!
But now i would love to appear on the show "Cops" Criminals are sooo dumb. I wanna show them whats up!
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ME:
Thats pretty RAD!
I wanted to be very detailed and artistic in what I did on my soft side I wanted to help people feel good about themselves and look pretty... I became a dentist with a BADASS personality ... thats whats up. Hi five!
You are soo out there we are soo criminal minded I can smell a masterplan already ; )
We probably wouldn't get along... we're too similar.
I wouldn't take your sh!t, you wouldn't take my sh!t, and we'd just fight all the time,
then have, like, freaky make-up sex.
I'm not sure I'm ready for a volatile relationship like that now.
Then again, maybe I am. I'm so confused!
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her:
HAHA. I was born a rebel without a cause. Im still trying to find the cause...cause nursing isnt it. LOL. Wanna take my braces off? God im gonna take pliers to these damn things.
I'm very romantic and genuine yet a total a****** .
I have a positive outlook on life
Love tender moments and little cats.
I want to meet people who laugh at my jokes and
High self-esteem types who don't take things too seriously.
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breaking rapport spiking emotions opener:
I like your pic but too bad its photoshopped
I wonder whats behind the pretty face? or I cant tell if you are sexy
her :what photoshop? I cropped the picture cause it was too big. But thats it. Thats what my big irish face looks like up close. Scary huh???
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me: you are soo feisty Im starting to like it stop being cool You are soo feisty...You should stop that cause.. Im starting to like it ; )
Im Sandro
I live in the in the city
I knew you wher going to b a truoblemaker sweetie ; )
you are probably from Boston ?!?!
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HER : should be from Boston. Part of the Irish Mob.
But nope. Im was born and raised in upstate NY...now im chillin in Long Island. Not an Irish friendly zone. lol
ME:Cool what you wna to be when you were seven and dont say irish mob princess
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her: All jokes aside i wanted to be a nurse. And looky-looky im a nurse. Born to save lives. Just with the added twist of humor!
But now i would love to appear on the show "Cops" Criminals are sooo dumb. I wanna show them whats up!
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ME:
Thats pretty RAD!
I wanted to be very detailed and artistic in what I did on my soft side I wanted to help people feel good about themselves and look pretty... I became a dentist with a BADASS personality ... thats whats up. Hi five!
You are soo out there we are soo criminal minded I can smell a masterplan already ; )
We probably wouldn't get along... we're too similar.
I wouldn't take your sh!t, you wouldn't take my sh!t, and we'd just fight all the time,
then have, like, freaky make-up sex.
I'm not sure I'm ready for a volatile relationship like that now.
Then again, maybe I am. I'm so confused!
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her:
HAHA. I was born a rebel without a cause. Im still trying to find the cause...cause nursing isnt it. LOL. Wanna take my braces off? God im gonna take pliers to these damn things.
Sunday, May 31, 2009
Present realiteis of my game UPDATE
I can open
attract
NOWI CAN
build comfort* J-smooth
Build deep emotional comfort aka chemistry* thanks entropy
besides:
sexual is easy
sexual technique is LOCKD DOWN
problem: finessing the close
being persistent and taking initative wihtou being supplication
after the date get the feel
controling urges
mindset when closing
This will clear up this week.
attract
NOWI CAN
build comfort* J-smooth
Build deep emotional comfort aka chemistry* thanks entropy
besides:
sexual is easy
sexual technique is LOCKD DOWN
problem: finessing the close
being persistent and taking initative wihtou being supplication
after the date get the feel
controling urges
mindset when closing
This will clear up this week.
Recent stuff
Dude Ive been moving was in miami.
I had an online date that went well to her showing up.
I build attraction and eventhough I fucked up cause i lied and she caught me ID just to make sure who I was.lol.
I build atraction and comfort and then went into sexual with eye contact and kissing.
there was a part where I was leading and I kissed her like 4 times like the past one. but at the end she was pissed and annoyed that I overescalated.
opposite of community belief.
she then text me she was ok and i never heard from her. I text her and didnt respond.
oh well. i learned that Im not going to push towards closing and her make her want it.
she had big tits blonde and I did get all turned on.
I have to work on after that.
I also had attorney chick engaged in convo but I fucked up somewhere and she had her own stuff. I showed needyness wnating to see her. until she text me when I was boarding to leave and she wanted to meet for lunch, which I never do cause it doesnt lead to sex.
I also felt that she has me so Im pulling back.
My friend is applying new skills that changed my thoughts on intereacting with women. I got a flake on a chick that text me in the moning and pics of her face and tits.wanted to meet up and we couldnt then he did different than what I would hav done..he ignored and kept gaming her , I was breainfreezed and she was calling me at 1 am, and texting me this morning.
I have issues with my family and me going to bolivia which Im not.
I feel I have to do whats right come up with money to pay my attorney to go to court.
I cant give up..and I have to hire a mover to gthtis shitout of my apt soon.
anyways:the list
LOST:
-Marrried woman: lost to her cause I was reactive to her ASD and her flakiness.
-StLoise comedy girl: she responded only once to my texts.and I wascoming on too strong in the pickup.weird but i realize I need to be more chill.
-Date miami: just posted over escalation, too sexual.
-jersy teach:Showed too much interest and didnt know howto deal with after the deate without closing.perfectdate but follow up was bad. its more like LJBF.
-Supermarket girl: she gavemefeedback,showedtoo much interest tried too hard to get with her, always asking her out and creeped herout with toomany text messages. she was a nice girl I fuckd it up.overgaming.
Roster present
online LI cute: she says im cute and Im sexy we will see
bxgirlirish :anther girl that is just came up in my roster
kimsar in connt: she is a cute girl and Im teying to find a baance to build alot of teust first. I think she is more of a friend that I can keep as something later.cool girl.but its long process, its a patience experiment to keep me balanced.
semi on:
vik: a hungarian woman that is word and confused calls me I dont knwowhere to take it.she was tough one.NY
attorny Fl: I was being gamed by her and I noticed what she was doing and I put a stop and qualified her hard and I got hr respectandinvitation to be with her.
I wne ther and said she couldnt.She thinks she has me but I know she like to chase. she is nervous and her mood changes rapidly.lately when I interct with her she has been low level and notinvesting.FL
blomdeteacher: is still online mode.NY
ktty: we exchanged a couple of times but she cant never meet up.she is FL.
another new girl in jersy: still early.
so far I have to take care of my stuff first and once thatsdone then run IT!
I had an online date that went well to her showing up.
I build attraction and eventhough I fucked up cause i lied and she caught me ID just to make sure who I was.lol.
I build atraction and comfort and then went into sexual with eye contact and kissing.
there was a part where I was leading and I kissed her like 4 times like the past one. but at the end she was pissed and annoyed that I overescalated.
opposite of community belief.
she then text me she was ok and i never heard from her. I text her and didnt respond.
oh well. i learned that Im not going to push towards closing and her make her want it.
she had big tits blonde and I did get all turned on.
I have to work on after that.
I also had attorney chick engaged in convo but I fucked up somewhere and she had her own stuff. I showed needyness wnating to see her. until she text me when I was boarding to leave and she wanted to meet for lunch, which I never do cause it doesnt lead to sex.
I also felt that she has me so Im pulling back.
My friend is applying new skills that changed my thoughts on intereacting with women. I got a flake on a chick that text me in the moning and pics of her face and tits.wanted to meet up and we couldnt then he did different than what I would hav done..he ignored and kept gaming her , I was breainfreezed and she was calling me at 1 am, and texting me this morning.
I have issues with my family and me going to bolivia which Im not.
I feel I have to do whats right come up with money to pay my attorney to go to court.
I cant give up..and I have to hire a mover to gthtis shitout of my apt soon.
anyways:the list
LOST:
-Marrried woman: lost to her cause I was reactive to her ASD and her flakiness.
-StLoise comedy girl: she responded only once to my texts.and I wascoming on too strong in the pickup.weird but i realize I need to be more chill.
-Date miami: just posted over escalation, too sexual.
-jersy teach:Showed too much interest and didnt know howto deal with after the deate without closing.perfectdate but follow up was bad. its more like LJBF.
-Supermarket girl: she gavemefeedback,showedtoo much interest tried too hard to get with her, always asking her out and creeped herout with toomany text messages. she was a nice girl I fuckd it up.overgaming.
Roster present
online LI cute: she says im cute and Im sexy we will see
bxgirlirish :anther girl that is just came up in my roster
kimsar in connt: she is a cute girl and Im teying to find a baance to build alot of teust first. I think she is more of a friend that I can keep as something later.cool girl.but its long process, its a patience experiment to keep me balanced.
semi on:
vik: a hungarian woman that is word and confused calls me I dont knwowhere to take it.she was tough one.NY
attorny Fl: I was being gamed by her and I noticed what she was doing and I put a stop and qualified her hard and I got hr respectandinvitation to be with her.
I wne ther and said she couldnt.She thinks she has me but I know she like to chase. she is nervous and her mood changes rapidly.lately when I interct with her she has been low level and notinvesting.FL
blomdeteacher: is still online mode.NY
ktty: we exchanged a couple of times but she cant never meet up.she is FL.
another new girl in jersy: still early.
so far I have to take care of my stuff first and once thatsdone then run IT!
seduction subcomunication by topo
So when we start out gaming we look online for all these different theories and exercises that will help us get the types of women we want in our life.
In fact there are tons of different and complex ways to look at it.
I always think that my take on it all is very simple but my students tell me it is complex…go figure.
As I mentioned in my last post I said I have been hanging out with a bunch of people that are crazily good.
As I saw Algasim pull again last night, when I as winging my buddy Ryan and I thought to myself… ‘fucking Algasim.’ As he walked off again in 20mins flat.
Later on I had to leverage my wit to get myself out of my winging situation by making friends with rock ‘n roll stars, mma icons and some of the most interesting hairdressers I have met.
Pretty interesting night to say the least. Tomorrow should actually be better, cause I am doing a photo shoot with quite possibly the most famous person I have ever had the opportunity to do one with. This time I will not actually be behind the lens.
If it all pans out, I will fill you it.
But something that I want to bring up here is to simplify things a little.
It again has to do with that fun phase of Seduction, but these are just a few pointers that will help you get the basics of sub communications down.
Something not enough people talk about, but something that more people should talk about.
So here are a few pointers that people ask me about…
First is Screening-
For you to get good with your own sub communications, you need to get good at reading other’s.
People are critical over screening, but let’s define that a little bit more. Most of game is designed to fit a club, some in the day time, some for social circle, and others for whatever various forms. Those are all forms of screening.
So when you hear CJ, Sinn, myself or whoever else talk about screening this is what we mean (and actually I can only speak for myself, but I have been pretty tight with those guys, I think I will do it justice in speaking for all) …
Screening for us is looking at who is the most logistically approachable that fits our taste. When I say approach, it doesn’t mean just open, it mean open and take it to where we want it. That could be SNLing someone, that could mean finding a girl to date, or whatever your goals might be. What we look for while screening is reading the social dynamic. Who they are with, what are their personality traits, when is the best time to approach and what they will be receptive to.
I actually wish I talked to DJ Fuji more about this, because he would take this stuff and run with it animal style…but it is a good exercise to do. You have got to learn how to read the room. It is stupid to walk into all your situations blindly.
So what do you screen for?
Figure out what you want in Game, and look for ways to find that or bring that out of a person before you approach. But always be proactive and approach.
Second is use of Body Positioning-
Now people might call this locking in, but the main thing is that you are using where you are in the set to work for you. It will take care of a lot. If you can do that and keep talking you will have less of a probability of getting blown out.
So let’s take it form an angle of locking in…
Locking in means having the most socially comfortable and dominant position in the group. That usually means leaning back against something. But think of it in this way, think of it as you are shaping the space of the group.
You need to penetrate the shape of the group.
You need to open the group and not stand outside of that group you want to get inside of it, comfortably within the first 30 seconds and have the group reshape around you.
That is dominant and you should do it comfortably.
The key is that this should be your goal throughout the set. Even when you isolate, you need to need to define the space you are having with them. That is how you build compliance towards dominance and even logistics.
Third is Spatial Relevance-
Nobody ever talks about this, but let me tell you this, Spatial Relevance does more for you than routines can do. It will help with screening and it will help elicit emotions or states more than other things.
So what this means is that when you are in set stand closer to your target than what you might feel is normal. When you qualify stand very close to them holding eye contact (the next tip in this post) and ask the qualifier. At the end of the question when you are waiting for a reply you can rock back slightly to use your body language to have them lean into you when answering.
Something you should try to get a feel for this is one night open sets and stand too close, but standing at various angle.
Another night try standing too close, but being face to face with them.
Another night try standing a step farther away from them, at various angles.
Then another standing a step further away but face to face with them.
You shouldn’t only do one, you need to work them all as an orchestration, but standing close elicits sexuality right away in set. It is one of the first things you can do when entering a set to calibrate for responsiveness to sexuality.
Try this-
Enter a set and within 30 seconds, ask your target a qualifier something like, “I bet you’re the one in the group that gets out of trouble the most, I can tell from how you dress, it’s cute, that you work that angle. So let me ask you this, what are people’s first impression of you?”
While doing this go in at an angle fairly close to her while smiling and say this.
As soon as you say the ‘first impression’ part lean back at an angle as if you are looking out of the corner of your eye.
Play with this idea and it will bring out some amazing results.
It is actually opposite of what was traditionally taught but if I didn’t see Shaft do it so many times and have it turn into 15min pulls than I wouldn’t have tried it. It works and it is dominant too.
Fourth is Eye Contact-
So here is the deal with this, when you hold eye contact it is a dominant way of communicating. You don’t always want to have it, you do need to look away, but when someone is qualifying back to you, you should try holding it.
But here is the real money shot with eye contact, people will match your emotions you express with your face while holding eye contact.
Even like how I listed above, eye contact can be used in how you look at people too. Looking at someone out of the corner of your eye from an angle can elicit emotions that bait sexuality back to you. Don’t go out and try and only soul gaze, but try and use have someone match different emotions one night you go out, by only using eye contact and facial expressions.
Also when you open and someone shit tests you, try saying something as bland as, “what are you talking about?” while holding eye contact. They usually will submit.
In terms of eliciting sexuality in a conversation and going sexual early eye contact is super necessary. That is why Gunwitch and CJ always said when they were in set and a girl was talking they would be looking at them and imagining having sex with them. It works in a pretty efficient way.
The fifth tip I will give is Touching-
So with this we all think of escalating and some sort of touching routines.
Those are all good things, but here is what I say, get touching out of the way by doing it on the opener.
But the real thing is, just like with the above-mentioned forms of communication you can sub communicate a lot with them. So let’s think of the idea in terms of Push Pull, work touching in that way. But not just pulling someone in and pushing them away and pulling them back. That is right, but think of doing it at key points. When qualifying or eliciting sexuality with your face and tonality (something I may talk about in a different post but important) pull them in and then slightly push them away when you are done talking, then without 2 seconds passing pull them right back in and either continue with that feeling or talk about something else.
Mind you, you don’t have to be talking about anything sexual, you are communicating with your body, voice and how you are interacting. I am not saying you can’t bring up something sexual, but at first try it without bringing anything up and see how effective it is.
Here is an example that will tie a bunch of stuff in together, hopefully it reads well (much easier to show than write about),
You’re in close on them at an angle with your hand on the back of their elbow. You pull them in.
“So one of the things I noticed about you, is that you can be a really shy person when your friends aren’t around”
Turn slightly towards them while holding eye contact, build a smile as you deliver the next line, and pull her in more with your arm.
“Like I bet you are totally one of those girls that is timid about trying new things, but when you do you take it and run with it.”
Rock back not by moving away but by turning out and pushing her away. Then immediately pull her back and say,
“I am not sure what I can relate with more, but I always know when I jump good things can happen”
Lean back and let go of touching her and qualify.
“so what is something that you feel is the most spontaneous thing you have done?”
Don’t wait for her to answer, and take a step in pulling her in at the waist at the same time too saying in a joking manner,
“You don’t even need to answer that, I can see your wheels turning, I wouldn’t even want to be around you if all the lights went out in this place, cause I don’t know if I would be ready for it.”
You take a step back pushing her away lightly, then take a different angle and jump threads to something else.
But there you see how the compliance is built for touching and spatial relevance mixed in with qualification and framing all takes place. Try it and see what results you get.
In fact there are tons of different and complex ways to look at it.
I always think that my take on it all is very simple but my students tell me it is complex…go figure.
As I mentioned in my last post I said I have been hanging out with a bunch of people that are crazily good.
As I saw Algasim pull again last night, when I as winging my buddy Ryan and I thought to myself… ‘fucking Algasim.’ As he walked off again in 20mins flat.
Later on I had to leverage my wit to get myself out of my winging situation by making friends with rock ‘n roll stars, mma icons and some of the most interesting hairdressers I have met.
Pretty interesting night to say the least. Tomorrow should actually be better, cause I am doing a photo shoot with quite possibly the most famous person I have ever had the opportunity to do one with. This time I will not actually be behind the lens.
If it all pans out, I will fill you it.
But something that I want to bring up here is to simplify things a little.
It again has to do with that fun phase of Seduction, but these are just a few pointers that will help you get the basics of sub communications down.
Something not enough people talk about, but something that more people should talk about.
So here are a few pointers that people ask me about…
First is Screening-
For you to get good with your own sub communications, you need to get good at reading other’s.
People are critical over screening, but let’s define that a little bit more. Most of game is designed to fit a club, some in the day time, some for social circle, and others for whatever various forms. Those are all forms of screening.
So when you hear CJ, Sinn, myself or whoever else talk about screening this is what we mean (and actually I can only speak for myself, but I have been pretty tight with those guys, I think I will do it justice in speaking for all) …
Screening for us is looking at who is the most logistically approachable that fits our taste. When I say approach, it doesn’t mean just open, it mean open and take it to where we want it. That could be SNLing someone, that could mean finding a girl to date, or whatever your goals might be. What we look for while screening is reading the social dynamic. Who they are with, what are their personality traits, when is the best time to approach and what they will be receptive to.
I actually wish I talked to DJ Fuji more about this, because he would take this stuff and run with it animal style…but it is a good exercise to do. You have got to learn how to read the room. It is stupid to walk into all your situations blindly.
So what do you screen for?
Figure out what you want in Game, and look for ways to find that or bring that out of a person before you approach. But always be proactive and approach.
Second is use of Body Positioning-
Now people might call this locking in, but the main thing is that you are using where you are in the set to work for you. It will take care of a lot. If you can do that and keep talking you will have less of a probability of getting blown out.
So let’s take it form an angle of locking in…
Locking in means having the most socially comfortable and dominant position in the group. That usually means leaning back against something. But think of it in this way, think of it as you are shaping the space of the group.
You need to penetrate the shape of the group.
You need to open the group and not stand outside of that group you want to get inside of it, comfortably within the first 30 seconds and have the group reshape around you.
That is dominant and you should do it comfortably.
The key is that this should be your goal throughout the set. Even when you isolate, you need to need to define the space you are having with them. That is how you build compliance towards dominance and even logistics.
Third is Spatial Relevance-
Nobody ever talks about this, but let me tell you this, Spatial Relevance does more for you than routines can do. It will help with screening and it will help elicit emotions or states more than other things.
So what this means is that when you are in set stand closer to your target than what you might feel is normal. When you qualify stand very close to them holding eye contact (the next tip in this post) and ask the qualifier. At the end of the question when you are waiting for a reply you can rock back slightly to use your body language to have them lean into you when answering.
Something you should try to get a feel for this is one night open sets and stand too close, but standing at various angle.
Another night try standing too close, but being face to face with them.
Another night try standing a step farther away from them, at various angles.
Then another standing a step further away but face to face with them.
You shouldn’t only do one, you need to work them all as an orchestration, but standing close elicits sexuality right away in set. It is one of the first things you can do when entering a set to calibrate for responsiveness to sexuality.
Try this-
Enter a set and within 30 seconds, ask your target a qualifier something like, “I bet you’re the one in the group that gets out of trouble the most, I can tell from how you dress, it’s cute, that you work that angle. So let me ask you this, what are people’s first impression of you?”
While doing this go in at an angle fairly close to her while smiling and say this.
As soon as you say the ‘first impression’ part lean back at an angle as if you are looking out of the corner of your eye.
Play with this idea and it will bring out some amazing results.
It is actually opposite of what was traditionally taught but if I didn’t see Shaft do it so many times and have it turn into 15min pulls than I wouldn’t have tried it. It works and it is dominant too.
Fourth is Eye Contact-
So here is the deal with this, when you hold eye contact it is a dominant way of communicating. You don’t always want to have it, you do need to look away, but when someone is qualifying back to you, you should try holding it.
But here is the real money shot with eye contact, people will match your emotions you express with your face while holding eye contact.
Even like how I listed above, eye contact can be used in how you look at people too. Looking at someone out of the corner of your eye from an angle can elicit emotions that bait sexuality back to you. Don’t go out and try and only soul gaze, but try and use have someone match different emotions one night you go out, by only using eye contact and facial expressions.
Also when you open and someone shit tests you, try saying something as bland as, “what are you talking about?” while holding eye contact. They usually will submit.
In terms of eliciting sexuality in a conversation and going sexual early eye contact is super necessary. That is why Gunwitch and CJ always said when they were in set and a girl was talking they would be looking at them and imagining having sex with them. It works in a pretty efficient way.
The fifth tip I will give is Touching-
So with this we all think of escalating and some sort of touching routines.
Those are all good things, but here is what I say, get touching out of the way by doing it on the opener.
But the real thing is, just like with the above-mentioned forms of communication you can sub communicate a lot with them. So let’s think of the idea in terms of Push Pull, work touching in that way. But not just pulling someone in and pushing them away and pulling them back. That is right, but think of doing it at key points. When qualifying or eliciting sexuality with your face and tonality (something I may talk about in a different post but important) pull them in and then slightly push them away when you are done talking, then without 2 seconds passing pull them right back in and either continue with that feeling or talk about something else.
Mind you, you don’t have to be talking about anything sexual, you are communicating with your body, voice and how you are interacting. I am not saying you can’t bring up something sexual, but at first try it without bringing anything up and see how effective it is.
Here is an example that will tie a bunch of stuff in together, hopefully it reads well (much easier to show than write about),
You’re in close on them at an angle with your hand on the back of their elbow. You pull them in.
“So one of the things I noticed about you, is that you can be a really shy person when your friends aren’t around”
Turn slightly towards them while holding eye contact, build a smile as you deliver the next line, and pull her in more with your arm.
“Like I bet you are totally one of those girls that is timid about trying new things, but when you do you take it and run with it.”
Rock back not by moving away but by turning out and pushing her away. Then immediately pull her back and say,
“I am not sure what I can relate with more, but I always know when I jump good things can happen”
Lean back and let go of touching her and qualify.
“so what is something that you feel is the most spontaneous thing you have done?”
Don’t wait for her to answer, and take a step in pulling her in at the waist at the same time too saying in a joking manner,
“You don’t even need to answer that, I can see your wheels turning, I wouldn’t even want to be around you if all the lights went out in this place, cause I don’t know if I would be ready for it.”
You take a step back pushing her away lightly, then take a different angle and jump threads to something else.
But there you see how the compliance is built for touching and spatial relevance mixed in with qualification and framing all takes place. Try it and see what results you get.
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